RE: [clug-support] Looking for some suggestions.

}On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:11:45PM -0500, Cyrus Elder wrote:

}[note: I cleaned up the format of the email to make it look a bit better ]

	Thanks. Sorry about that where I work they beat us and force us to use 
	Exchange. I used to use this really nice program called Groupwise, 	apparently it was too reliable.


}} 	Thanks for the info, but at the risk of sounding like a complete 


}} windose user (I'm doing better though honest my recovery is coming       }} Slowly) What exactly is all that? My guess is a combo of rpm's meant to }} work together? Can you just install the options you want? I'm still      }} learning a lot so please excuse the stupidity. 

} It is exactly what you asked for :-> All the components to build
} a working email virtual hosting system with:
}
} o webmail
} o pop/imap and ssl enabled pop/imap
} o virtual hosting
} o Roaming support through smtp-auth and pop/imap auth before send
}
} These source RPMS basically will allow you to build the system
} describe at:
}
} http://matt.simerson.net/computing/mail/toaster/
}
} You can learn basic qmail installation information at:
}
} http://www.qmail.org/top.html
} http://www.lifewithqmail.org
}
} I've heard that you can also use
}
} http://obua.org/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=3 (qinstall)
} to do just about the same thing also, although I've never
} tried it (I have my own home grown scripts).

        I read life with qmail, compiled and set it up works fine. I learned a ton from that including a little about make files and compiling which is definitely not one of my strong points. I started building the srpm's for the toaster. Everything was going well till I hit the qmail-toaster rpm. It was requesting libopenssl0.9.7-devel (unfortunately mandrake 9.0 came with 9.6). I thought ok fine I'll find the newer rpm and install it, well it requires openssl0.9.7 which requires libc.so.6 ok so after doing some searching I found that libc is part of glibc, so I installed glibc. So great now I can install openssl, well it still says I need to install libc. So I rebuilt the rpm database, still says I need to install it. Now I'm a little stuck, I was thinking about doing a reinstall and including the development packages this time.  

}} On the other hand the other guy I work with double clicked the
}} install for his mail server entered some info and now he's done. Of
}} course it's going to cost us about $6000 for that, and I'm sure he
}} really has no idea how it actually works. I being so pathetic that
}} using make kicks my butt I'm not doing very well showing them up.
}
} From what I hear the qinstall program will basically do the
} same thing for you but I personally have never tried it.
} With the software above I've been able to help a few small
} companies run about 2000 domains (around 25,000 mailboxes, 500
} mailing lists, and around 150,000 messages a day) on a shared
} server (Dual PII 400, 1GB, Mirror OS Drivers (Raid 1, IDE) and
} mail software and 100GB raid 1 IDE drives on a co-located
} server in CA. I have serious doubts that his $6000 solutions
} is going to do that (Heck, I only charged them $3000 to
} setup the server and install the software for them!).

        I think I may do a reinstall and take a look at qinstall. Well the $6000 program only handles or has license for 5000 users. And they are talking about specing a dual Xeon Machine with 2 gigs of ram, with around 100 gig raid 5. I told them the server hardware was complete overkill if all they are going to do is 5000 accounts. I also said that if we go with a Linux solution 1 we won't be limited by licensing and two with a machine like that we could probably handle everyone in Summit County. Which are about 130,000 accounts, although k-5 are probably not going to have e-mail accounts.

        Thanks for all your help! Hey your not into rock music by any chance are you?

Cyrus.

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