Re: Newbye question bis

On Sun, 3 May 1998, Gary E. Bickford wrote:

> At 4:42 PM -0000 5/3/98, Rich Roth wrote:

No, because none of those structures reply on a language that is running of the web server that is being configured.

> use PHP for a number of server-monitoring tasks, including running top, df,

So do I, but that still is not controlling the server itself. What happens if the new configuration has a problem -- the gui won't be foolproof (as much as we'd like it to be), now you are dead. Also, how to you get started in the first place - makes bootstraping a whole extra effort.

I know PHP runs both as a mod_php (which is what we do) and as CGI -- can it run totally stand-alone ??

> and other server applications. But I think Java on both server & client is

I have mixed feelings about Java -- too much setup (esp, as to having the right set of support class libs) and still too flaky for me.

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> Primary

Totally agree - see my comments on Webmin I'll get out in a day or so. That's there real downside of pure HTML based interfaces.

> As I recall, Stronghold's web-based configuration tool uses Python, which

It is and does -- it also relies on a configure server to configure the main server -- BTW, it is only server side Python, although there are client sided versions for all platforms I know of.

> All you're doing is manipulating text files (httpd.conf, srm.conf,

> The latter is the only ticklish bit. - run a suid script? Guess I'll have

That's why it has a 2nd server.

> I could definitely see a dbm-style database of configuration parameters,

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That's why there is no GUI as yet -- most have tried to do too much to start with.

> like the Dynamo java-based engine. Now, if THAT configuration was doable

That's that ?? (URL ?)

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