[IMRG] directing the discussion

From: Loki Jorgenson <ljorgenson(at)apparentnetworks.com>
Date: Thu Mar 10 2005 - 18:13:02 EST

Mark - my reflections would parallel Jennifer's - measurement has matured to a certain point and I feel that it is time for it to make itself relevant to other things - integrate with the larger world and/or be part of other systems that need measurement. In other words, can we get down to applied research?

Jennifer listed some options to consider.

A key question (in my mind) is: Now that we know better how to do it, what is Internet Measurement good for? Or more precisely, who needs that information and under what circumstances?

My experience as an industry researcher has been that the answer to this question is non-trivial and not what you'd expect. For example, in general I would say that core network engineers "don't care" - however, applications people (who have little direct access to the network) care a great deal but in specific ways and under specific circumstances.

Jennifer Rexford wrote:

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Mark,

Hi, thanks for getting the ball rolling. Here are a few thoughts to give
the ball an additional kick. I'm not sure which of these (if any) make sense specifically in a context like IMRG, but these are some measurement-related things I've been thinking or wondering about...

• Education/curriculum:
• Network support for measurement:
• Measurement in support of network operations:
  • Jen

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