Re: [IMRG] imrg futures

At 03:32 07/03/2005, Mark Allman wrote:

><file://e:\henk uijterwaal\eudora\attach\Untitled41.ems <0880.0002>>
>[]
><file://e:\henk uijterwaal\eudora\attach\Untitled41.ems <0880.0002>>
>Untitled41.ems

The problem that I see is not that we cannot come up with a set of topics that we want to discuss and pursue, but that the IMRG does not have a framework that forces us to actually do some research, then write it up and discuss it in a serious but not too formal setting. On the other hand, there is a whole series of formal and informal workshops and conferences (PAM200x, IMC, IEEE-E2EMON, RIPE TT-WG, NANOG's research session, ..., etc, etc) with CFP's and meetings. Most of us have other obligations as well. The net result of all this, is (or at least seems to be) that we all end up with great plans what to do in the IMRG framework, then find out that we have so many other deadlines to meet that all these plans end up somewhere on the bottom of the stack.

The exception to this was the BEST workshop organized 2 years ago, where a number of people on a topic met and discussed bandwidth estimation for 2 days and actually made progress.

We obviously should not try to organize yet another workshop on measurements. However, I do think that if we want to make progress in this RG, we should not only come up with a list of topic, but also with some plan that "forces" people to actually follow up on suggestions and present/discuss results,

Henk

Henk Uijterwaal                           Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net
RIPE Network Coordination Centre          
http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk
P.O.Box 10096          Singel 258         Phone: +31.20.5354414
1001 EB Amsterdam      1016 AB Amsterdam  Fax: +31.20.5354445
The Netherlands        The Netherlands    Mobile: +31.6.55861746
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Look here junior, don't you be so happy.
And for Heaven's sake, don't you be so sad.                 (Tom Verlaine) 


_______________________________________________