RE: [IMRG] directing the discussion

From: Loki Jorgenson <ljorgenson(at)apparentnetworks.com>
Date: Wed Mar 16 2005 - 17:57:19 EST

All well received.

And I would add to your list of "who needs to the information" - applications people or people involved in applications research. These people are neither experimenting on the Internet or running the Internet. But they are involved in work that has a direct dependency on the Internet and networks in general. And they need to characterize the beast for their own purposes.

This is where I find the "rubber hits the road" and defines relevant metrics. And I imagine it is where some very interesting cross-pollination can take place (networking and.... something).

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From: Jennifer Rexford [mailto:jrex@CS.Princeton.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:52 PM
To: Loki Jorgenson
Cc: imrg@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [IMRG] directing the discussion

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In terms of the important question of "who needs the information," I think
we have at least two camps -- those using data to characterize the beast (e.g., research folks trying to do experimental science on the Internet, including work on understanding the performance and limitations of our existing protocols and/or evaluate new designs) and those using data to run
the network (e.g., operators trying to detect anomalies, do traffic engineering, thwart attacks, etc.), though increasingly the lines are blurry
as more research folks jump in to creating and evaluating techniques for using measurement data to help operators.

• Jen

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