RE: Is hotspot going to replace PPPoE

Yes the Telco has the PPPoE servers in the CO-LO, each provider has to have at least one pipe from them to the Telco but when a customer sings up with an independent ISP the only thing the Telco has to do is make sure they have a DSLAM for DSL. So if that DSLAM is already set-up for DSL then the Telco does not need to do a single thing to allow that new customer for the independent ISP. The situation your talking about is not recent and before most Telcos had started using PPPoE, so let's look at an actual recent case where DirecTV DSL has gone bankrupt those customers can easily be signed up with another provider.

Bob
http://www.canadianisp.com - Compare Internet Service Providers anywhere in Canada
http://www.carricksolutions.com - The largest PPPoE / Broadband Help Website

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pppoe@ipsec.org [mailto:owner-pppoe@ipsec.org] On Behalf Of John Tully
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:58 AM
To: pppoe@ipsec.org
Subject: RE: Is hotspot going to replace PPPoE

Hello,

Well if that is true, then all those people should not have had a problem
with COVAD and when all the other nationwide DSL providers died. They could just log in to another ISP. I guess they were just imagining it.

They are renting the local loop, but does the telephone company have the

PPPoE server at their office?

Here, in Latvia, they just terminate the ATM to whatever service provider
you want and it means basically the service provider has an Ethernet port
at your house and can do whatever he wants from there.

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At 08:47 AM 1/21/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Who is doing that? Every single Telco in North America. Forced by the

>CRTC and FCC to "rent" the local loop to alternative ISPs.

>company and then secondary for services (IP, movies, whatver), who is
>currently doing that?
>
>John
>
>At 08:35 AM 1/21/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >I was speaking more of the ability to have a multimedia server that
> >you
>
> >pay extra to, to get your userid and password on that radius table
> >and you log directly in to it via the PPPoE client.
> >
> >Bob
> >http://www.canadianisp.com - Compare Internet Service Providers
> >anywhere in Canada http://www.carricksolutions.com - The largest
> >PPPoE / Broadband Help Website
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-pppoe@ipsec.org [mailto:owner-pppoe@ipsec.org] On Behalf
> >Of
>
> >David F. Skoll
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:34 AM
> >To: pppoe@ipsec.org
> >Subject: RE: Is hotspot going to replace PPPoE
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Bob Carrick wrote:
> >
> > > allows for ISPs to resell the same line multiple times. IE: Rated
> > > services, Broadband specific content (movies, etc.), metered
> > > services,
> >
> > > etc.
> >
> >Actually, PPPoE is problematic for multimedia distribution, because
> >it doesn't support multicasting. If you want to distribute a movie
> >to PPPoE clients, you have to unicast a copy to each client, even if
> >they are on the same Ethernet segment.
> >
> >There was a proposal to add multicasting to PPPoE, but it was pretty
> >roundly criticized and didn't get anywhere.
> >
> >--
> >David.
Received on Tue Jan 21 09:05:44 2003