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Minutes from d-i meeting on August, 29th

From: Jérémy Bobbio <lunar(at)debian.org>
Date: Fri Aug 31 2007 - 12:35:24 EDT


Hi!

Here are the minutes from the Debian Installer team meeting help on IRC two days ago. A copy of these minutes is available online [1], as well as the full IRC log [2].

[1] http://people.debian.org/~lunar/d-i/irc-meeting-20070829/minutes [2] http://people.debian.org/~lunar/d-i/irc-meeting-20070829/log

Please note that next meeting has been scheduled for the 26th of September.

  • 8< --- Debian Installer team meeting number 14 has been held from 20:00 UTC to 21:40 UTC on Wednesday August 29th 2007 on #debian-boot@irc.debian.org.

11 people spoke at least once during the meeting.

The full log of the meeting is available at http://people.debian.org/~lunar/d-i/irc-meeting-20070829/log

d-i beta1 release


We are more or less in good shape but we still have some serious blockers.

Do you need help?X

Blockers:

  • Issue with libdebian-installer (see #434040 and the corresponding thread on debian-{glibc,kernel} [1]) -> waldi will fix the issue in the next kernel upload
  • sparc is broken - bug in kernel since .18 exposed by the libc in sid. see #433187 -> someone needs to mail sparc buildd maintainers XXXX
  • bubulle does not consider CJK regressions in the newt frontend (#425835) as a blocker for beta1.
  • kernel issues -> There is an abi bump pending. We wait kernel team to do the upload for the ABI bump and if there's not serious blocker we move to 2.6.22 ASAP. Otavio will be coordinating the move.

   Course of actions abouth the kernel that will happen before the release:

  1. kernel team uploads a new kernel
  2. massbuild and upload of d-i kernel udebs
  3. everything moves to testing at the same time

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2007/08/msg00140.html

backporting fixes for next Etch point release


There was quite a lot of useful fixes done on cdebconf during the past months. Some of these fixes removed huge memory leaks, and should probably be backported for the next Etch point release. It is due in 4-6 weeks, so this sounds like a realistic timeframe.

  • A deadlock issue was fixed in _debconf_ and needs to be backported. See fjp's reminder for RMs [2] for a summary (and other things left to be done wrt. stable and oldstable releases)
  • Memory issues in cdebconf as well.
  • Lunar will be coordinating the effort: first step will be to make an inventory of what could be backported, then see with zobel what is acceptable.

[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2007/08/msg00218.html

Integration of some work done during VAC by lunar


  • RTLD_GLOBAL and frontend plugins

   Thanks to vorlon's help, lunar has been able to change the way frontend    plugins could use frontend functions to something that really feels a lot    more "natural" than using ackward dlsym() calls. He is still waiting for    Colin's feedback before merging the changes.

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   There is still an issue with the library reduction stage of the build    system, though:

  • library reduction issues

   While working on global symbols for frontend, he stumbled on an issue with    the library reduction steps of the build system that his described in a    mail sent to debian-boot [3].

   He worked around by hacking mklibs, but this is not a desirable change.    The issue needs to be fixed in the build system before integrating the    other changes.

  • tetris

   The Tetris will be included as a separate package (like it is currently    done in the proposed patch) for beta1. Lunar will try to integrate in a    better manner (Tab?) in the following months.

[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2007/08/msg00557.html

Current status of the switch to console-setup


console-setup is technically ready to be included. But bubulle noticed that the debconf questions about model/layout/variant were not i18n'ed at all. This is a blocker for D-I.

Solutions have been proposed [4] but we still miss someone to do the job...

Can we help you?X

On the same topic, Lunar stated that integrating Ubuntu's keyboard recognition plugin would be great and that we can also imagine cool plugins for the graphical installer where the actual layout is shown on screen.

[4] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2007/08/msg00504.html

relatime as default?


Frans Pop suggested that we integrate make relatime the default option for newly created partitions, see #436785.

Lunar stated that as far as he has read in the LKML threads, it seems that kernel upstream will probably add an option making relatime the default for all filesystems, so he suggested that we wait for that to happen.

No other comments have been made.

Bug Squashing Party?


Lunar is organising a bug squashing party in Dijon during the last week-end of september (29th-30th). If there is any interest, he stated that he would happily spend the week-end fixing d-i bugs, coordinating on IRC with other member of the team.

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win32-loader integration


win32-loader is now in the main section of sid. Robert Millan has then proposed a patch that will ship win32-loader on Debian installation CDs. This will help our user to install Debian without having to mess with their BIOS settings.

The team has decided to integrate the patch. We also talked about adding an "autorun.inf" which could start win32-loader automatically when a Debian CD would be CD inserted on a Windows box.

As it seems a bit dangerous to make it too easy to start the installation process, the team decided to wait for the ability of win32-loader to display the documentation before adding an automatic launch.

Next meeting


The attendees agreed to have the next meeting on Wednesday September 26th 2007.

Postponed to the next meeting


  • Status of lowmem and recent cdebconf improvements
  • make d-i support nfsroot systems
  • need an option of memtest86+ on the install CD
    • >8 ---

Cheers,

-- 
Jérémy Bobbio                        .''`. 
lunar@debian.org                    : :Ⓐ  :  # apt-get install anarchism
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