Bug#283521: [debian-www@lists.debian.org: [Debian Wiki] Update of "DebianInstaller/ReleaseProcess" by FransPop]

On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Monday 17 December 2007 22:28, Frans Pop wrote:
> > That page again links only to the manual for stable, which is
> > unsuitable for D-I images when they are being used to install either
> > testing or oldstable.
>
> Than this page needs to be fixed.

Why? What exactly? IMO it is perfectly valid as an entry page for people looking for current documentation. And it already was improved somewhat fairly recently.

I don't think adding direct links to the development version of the manual on _that_ page would be a good idea as general web pages should be about the stable release by default and adding other links would only increase clutter and confusion.

Note that [1] _does_ have a include to the development version, but I don't think we really want to link there either (too detailed info).

[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#install

> I still think this URL, www.debian.org/doc is the most suitable URL for
> pointing users to documentation about Debian. Be it users of testing,
> stable or unstable.

Unfortunately you don't give any reasons _why_ you think so. Opinions generally don't do anything to convince me, arguments can do.

I strongly disagree, at least for this purpose. Mostly because: - I don't expect many users actually use the help pages anyway - the home page already has easy, visible, direct links to both the   documentation page and direct to the stable manual, so making the   link point directly to ./doc does not add any real value over the   link to the home page (I _do_ expect Debian users to at least be able   to find a link named "Documentation" on a front page) - for me that means that _if_ we want to change anything in the help   screens, we should provide *correct* direct links, not links to just   another generic page

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If you feel that the Documentation link is not prominent enough on the Debian home page, I would suggest that you direct your energy to improving that instead of trying to work around it on some obscure D-I help screen.

> And I do think that we foremost care about and cater for our stable
> users, since we expect users of testing and unstable to be able to deal
> with random breakage.

Yes, and IMO your proposed change does not really improve things for them.

> And I do consider a pointer to the installer manual of a specific
> codename to be a *less* valuable pointer than one pointing to
> debian.org/doc

Again only an opinion, no actual arguments.

For me, providing a better pointer to the development version of the manual _does_ add value as that document can be quite a bit harder to find than the manual for stable.

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