Re: [Debian-in-workers] Malayalam fonts are not getting installed

2007/12/19, Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>:
>
> Or maybe % of completed po-debconf translations? Or ...
>
> I'd say that relative contribution to Debian would be a pretty fair
> criterion, which probably would come close to justifying the list you
> proposed...
>

This looks right to me but better ones are those came after these.

> To be serious. The best solution would be to prioritize _within_ tasks.
> Tasksel already supports "key" packages and "regular" packages.
>
> IMO it's not really fair that French manpages (random example) come before
> essential Malayalam desktop support.

I like this one. At least all <lang> and <lang-desktop> should come before say the man pages.

>
> debian-cd actually respects that distinction by sorting all key packages for
> all tasks _before_ all regular packages for all tasks.
>
> The malayalam-desktop task currently looks as follows:
> Key:
> Packages: task-fields
> Packages-list:
> ttf-malayalam-fonts
> scim-tables-additional
> scim-gtk2-immodule
> openoffice.org-l10n-ml-in
>
> I think a good case could be made for at least the first of those to be made
> a key package. Not sure about the scim-* packages as I don't know how
> exactly they are used. The openoffice l10n package should clearly remain as
> a regular package.
>

SCIM is important because many use it as their primary input method. OO l10n can remain regular.

> I could even see the introduction in tasksel of a third, call it "extra",
> class that would list "nice to have, but no problem if it's not available"
> packages" which are either ignored for debian-cd package sorting purposes
> or are sorted after "regular" packages.
> Or, alternatively, just creating <lang>-extra tasks that contain such
> packages and are either listed lower down in task.list or not listed at all
> (but that would possibly make language task selection in aptitude a bit
> less obvious).

This would extra work, dunno if it is worth it.
>
> I also wondered about sorting all <lang> tasks before all <lang>-desktop
> tasks, but am not sure if that would be logical or not. It could improve
> basic language support for some languages lower down the list, but could
> also result in just more manpages packages being sorted early.

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For Malayalam this task is meaning less as we don't have support for console rendering (it has to have pango/qt/icu).
>
> Anyway, my conclusion is that improvements should not be sought by fighting
> over the sort order, but by improving the way packages between and within
> tasks are prioritized. In different words: by having a very clear policy of
> how task files should be written and ensuring that this is done
> consistently for all languages.

This looks good - may be even lang-extra would make sense.
>
> IIRC another improvement that could be made includes further splitting the
> desktop tasks into desktop, desktop-gnome, desktop-kde and desktop-xfce
> tasks.

I would love to see installer giving a choice of gnome/kde/xfce at least in DVDs.

Regards
Praveen

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