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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1679

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Lightweight RTF Editor in Debian  [ Juergen Fiedler  ]
  Re: FireFox slowness                  [ John Hasler  ]
  Re: Lightweight RTF Editor in Debian  [ Juergen Fiedler  ]
  Re: I am ANGRY with Debian.           [ cothrige  ]
  disk i/o performance problem          [ WHIRLYCOTT  ]
  Re: disk i/o performance problem      [ Alex Samad  ]
  Great advice                          [ domski  ]
  etch/powerbook G4 wlan/wpa not worki  [ "Georg Heinrich"  ]
  Re: etch/powerbook G4 wlan/wpa not w  [ Andrei Morgan 

Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 22:45:09 -0400


From: Juergen Fiedler <juergen@fiedlerfamily.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Lightweight RTF Editor in Debian?
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On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 09:01:04PM +0300, David Baron wrote:

> On Thursday 31 May 2007, debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org wrot=

e:

> > > > did you test TED?
> > >
> > > Just did. Brings in the right overall format but font sizes are not
> > > necessarily correct. Main problem is that it not handle the character
> > > codepages (for a Windows Hebrew document). Probably decent for good o=

ld

> > > English.
> >
> > You got Ted to work? How did you do it? What version of Debian are you
> > using? Did it work right out of the box?

>=20

> Installed it off Sid. Worked right out of the box.
Do you need help?X

Dang... Tried it on my sid machine ad it worked without a hitch. Maybe
I'll have to see whether I can install the sid packages on my lenny
machine or something.



Thanks,


 -Juergen



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Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 22:28:57 -0400


From: Ed Jabbour <ejbr@comcast.net>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: How do I listen to radio?


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On Thursday 31 May 2007 09:26, Nigel Henry wrote:

> On Thursday 31 May 2007 03:07, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> > On Wednesday 30 May 2007 06:00, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
Do you need more help?X
> > > I can listen to it by just clicking on the "listen" link at
> > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2, using the realplayer package; this is
> > > not standard Debian, but you can get it if you put in
> > > /etc/apt/sources.list
> >
> > I click on the "listen" link and nothng happens.  The embedded player
> > says "stopped" and the standalone just sits there.  I have Realplayer 10:
> >
> > realplayer:
> >   Installed: 10.0.8-0.1
> >   Candidate: 10.0.8-0.1
>


> Let me start again, as I'm not sure about realplayer 10.0.8-0.1 from
> debian-multimedia. I've got it installed on Etch, but have also installed
> RealPlayer10Gold.bin in /usr/local, which I get direct from
> http://www.real.com/linux/ . I normally install Realplayer in this way, by
> the way, but probably installed the one from debian-multimedia to see if it
> worked ok. Perhaps it didn't, and is why I've also installed the other one
> in /usr/local.
>


> Check in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to see if nphelix.so , and nphelix.xpt
> are there. They , in my case are links
> to /usr/local/RealPlayer/mozilla/nphelix.so , and .xpt
>


> If they arn't there, I'd remove the realplayer from debian-multimedia, and
> dl the one direct from the real.com site, and install that.
>


> To install.
> Go to the directory where you dl'd it, and in the files
> properties>permissions, check the executable box.
>


> Now in a terminal, cd to the directory, and type.
> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
> Enter
> set the path where you want to put it. I put it in /usr/local/RealPlayer.
> Dont forget the Realplayer bit, otherwise you'll end up with a bunch of
> files in /usr/local.
> Enter
> Yes to system wide sym links
> Enter, and Enter again on the next line
> F to finish install
>


> You should now have the symlinks for the 2 nphelix files
> in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
>


> If you are using Firefox/Iceweasel provided by the Debian repo, the bbc
> site should work now.
>


> Let me know how you get on, sorry if you already know about the install
> stuff above, and for the analogue/digital rambling, which probably doesn't
> apply.

OK.  Installed from RealPlayer10GOLD.bin.  Symlinks are in place.  Shows up in 
about:plugins.  But, BBC radio is a nogo, as above.  Same failure at CSPAN, 
btw.  On sites other than those two, RealPlayer works fine.   Well, not the 
Amazon realplayer samples - says their codecs are too old.  I use xine for 
windoze media files - works fine.  Oh well, as the old Indian in "Little Big 
Man" said - "Sometimes the magic works and sometimes it doesn't". 



Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:18:26 -0500


From: John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: FireFox slowness


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Carl Fink writes:

> As for alternative browsers, I rather like Galeon and Konqueror, but I'd
> miss the plugins.  Adblock in particular makes many sites bearable.

Try Privoxy for blocking ads.

-- 
John Hasler


Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 22:54:36 -0400
From: Juergen Fiedler <juergen@fiedlerfamily.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Lightweight RTF Editor in Debian?
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On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:37:45PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 01:51:59PM -0400, Juergen Fiedler wrote:
> > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:42:17AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>  =20
> > > Does you boss want RTF of is it just "page breaks, centered text, and
> > > different fonts"?  What file formats will your boss accept?  Will he
> > > accept pdf or ps?  Would enscript do?  It will output in RTF if you
> > > like.
> >=20
> > He wants something that he can edit in MS Word if necessary, that can
> > be read and printed in OS X and that lets you organize the text with
> > page breaks and large headers. If it wasn't for the page breaks (and
> > those are mostly to maintain a separate cover sheet), even HTML would
> > probably do.  I had, at one point, thoughts of doing stuff in HTML and
> > just keeping the cover page in a separate file, but I don't think that
> > that would fly...
> >=20

>=20

> Presumably, he not only wants to edit (which he could latex) but to then
> regeneratet it (which he can't unless he has latex for MS and OSX).
> Since I've never used MS Word or OSX, I don't know what your choices
> are. =20


RTF is pretty much it, really. If it wasn't for the critical
importance of page breaks, HTML might be fine, but as it is, RTF is
the 'standard' that's used in my office and that's what I have to
deliver.
=20

> By stipulating that he wants both typeset output and the ability to edit
> and regenerate it, this becomes a problem of distributed text
> processing.  In acedemia the standard has been LaTex until MS invaded.

>=20

> I think that in debian you're limited to lout, latex, OO,
> Koffice, Lyx, and a few other markup language processors.  You'll have
> to see what is available for the other OSs and what he's willing to put
> on his computer.  What is the editor in OSX that he uses and what
> formats can it work with?

>=20

> If he _doesn't_ need to regenerate the file, just change a few words,
> then give him latex source and pdf output and he can edit it directly
> and give it back to you to regenerate.


I considered going the Latex rute - I'd just create my RTF files from
the Latex source - but I think that that would take up even more space
than AbiWord. It's a tough call; I would still prefer plain text or
maybe troff, but that's not my decision to make.
Well, we'll see what comes from it; I still hope that I can make Ted
work on my Lenny box.

Thanks,
 -Juergen

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Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 22:46:27 -0400
From: Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FireFox slowness
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On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 09:18:26PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:

> Carl Fink writes:
> > As for alternative browsers, I rather like Galeon and Konqueror, but I'd
> > miss the plugins.  Adblock in particular makes many sites bearable.
> 
> Try Privoxy for blocking ads.


I used Privoxy for years, but having tried it I prefer AdBlock.
-- 
Carl Fink                                   nitpicking@nitpicking.com 

Read my blog at nitpickingblog.blogspot.com.  Reviews!  Observations!
Stupid mistakes you can correct!


Can we help you?X

Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:56:45 -0500
From: cothrige <cothrige@bellsouth.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: I am ANGRY with Debian.
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* Manoj Srivastava (srivasta@ieee.org) wrote:

> On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:59:27 +0100, Nic James Ferrier
> <nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk> said:  
> 
> > My name is Nic Ferrier. I am really ANGRY at Debian.  After 10 years
> > of being a dedicated Debian user I have reached the point at which I
> > am so angry with what is being done that I want to stop using it. I
> > will start to look for viable alternatives to Debian.
> 
>         Good luck with your software choices elsewhere.  I suggest you
>  look at the GNU web site to see what OS they recommend; it may be more
>  to your liking, since you consider the GFDL licensed software to be
>  free.


One could go with gNewSense, http://www.gnewsense.org/, which is what
Richard Stallman uses.  It appears to be Ubuntu stripped of anything
that the maintainers would consider non-free.  I am assuming that
would not mean Emacs docs, as RMS endorses it, but would probably be
things like nvidia drivers I suppose.

Patrick



Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 23:02:06 -0400
From: WHIRLYCOTT <phil@whirlycott.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: disk i/o performance problem
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Hi, I'm trying to track down a pretty apparent problem that I'm  
having with disk i/o on an Etch box.  Basically, I have two identical  
machines.  One is running Etch and one is running CentOS.  The Etch  
machine is really slow.  I'm trying to figure out why.  Details are  
as follows:

Etch: (output of hdparm)

	/dev/sda:
	Timing cached reads:   1588 MB in  2.00 seconds = 794.41 MB/sec
	Timing buffered disk reads:  176 MB in  3.03 seconds =  58.15 MB/sec

	/dev/sda:
	IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
	readonly     =  0 (off)
	readahead    = 256 (on)
	geometry     = 30401/255/63, sectors = 488397168, start = 0

	Linux etch 2.6.18-4-k7 #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:42:01 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/ 
Linux

CentOS: (output of hdparm)

	/dev/sda:
	Timing cached reads:   4480 MB in  2.00 seconds = 2242.86 MB/sec
	Timing buffered disk reads:  176 MB in  3.03 seconds =  58.16 MB/sec

	/dev/sda:
	IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
	readonly     =  0 (off)
	readahead    = 256 (on)
	geometry     = 30401/255/63, sectors = 488397168, start = 0

	Linux centos 2.6.18-8.1.3.el5PAE #1 SMP Mon Apr 30 20:26:37 EDT 2007  
i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

Please note that I'm specifically not trying to spark a centos/debian  
war here.  I just provide the CentOS numbers because it's the same  
hardware and there's a pretty obvious difference between the two  
otherwise identical machines.

I'm not sure where to look next.  The fact that the hdparm settings  
are identical indicate that the problem (or setting?) may be  
elsewhere.  But where?

Does anybody have an idea of where to look?

phil.

--
                                    Whirlycott
                                    Philip Jacob
                                    phil@whirlycott.com
                                    http://www.whirlycott.com/phil/

Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:16:39 +1000
From: Alex Samad <alex@samad.com.au>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: disk i/o performance problem
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On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:02:06PM -0400, WHIRLYCOTT wrote:

> Hi, I'm trying to track down a pretty apparent problem that I'm =20
> having with disk i/o on an Etch box.  Basically, I have two identical =20
> machines.  One is running Etch and one is running CentOS.  The Etch =20
> machine is really slow.  I'm trying to figure out why.  Details are =20
> as follows:

>=20

> Etch: (output of hdparm)

>=20

> 	/dev/sda:
> 	Timing cached reads:   1588 MB in  2.00 seconds =3D 794.41 MB/sec
> 	Timing buffered disk reads:  176 MB in  3.03 seconds =3D  58.15 MB/sec

>=20

> 	/dev/sda:
> 	IO_support   =3D  0 (default 16-bit)
> 	readonly     =3D  0 (off)
> 	readahead    =3D 256 (on)
> 	geometry     =3D 30401/255/63, sectors =3D 488397168, start =3D 0

>=20

> 	Linux etch 2.6.18-4-k7 #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:42:01 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/=20
> Linux

>=20

> CentOS: (output of hdparm)

>=20

> 	/dev/sda:
> 	Timing cached reads:   4480 MB in  2.00 seconds =3D 2242.86 MB/sec
> 	Timing buffered disk reads:  176 MB in  3.03 seconds =3D  58.16 MB/sec

>=20

> 	/dev/sda:
> 	IO_support   =3D  0 (default 16-bit)
> 	readonly     =3D  0 (off)
> 	readahead    =3D 256 (on)
> 	geometry     =3D 30401/255/63, sectors =3D 488397168, start =3D 0

>=20

> 	Linux centos 2.6.18-8.1.3.el5PAE #1 SMP Mon Apr 30 20:26:37 EDT 2007=20
> i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

>=20

> Please note that I'm specifically not trying to spark a centos/debian =20
> war here.  I just provide the CentOS numbers because it's the same =20
> hardware and there's a pretty obvious difference between the two =20
> otherwise identical machines.


these are cache reads, try running 10 in a row and taking a look at the=20
averages.

the other thing i notice is that you have PAE kernel for centos - does this=
=20
give it access to a large kernel memory space ?

>=20

> I'm not sure where to look next.  The fact that the hdparm settings =20
> are identical indicate that the problem (or setting?) may be =20
> elsewhere.  But where?

>=20

> Does anybody have an idea of where to look?

>=20

> phil.

>=20

> --
>                                    Whirlycott
>                                    Philip Jacob
>                                    phil@whirlycott.com
>                                    http://www.whirlycott.com/phil/

>=20
>=20
>=20

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>=20
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Date: Fri,  1 Jun 2007 05:46:39 +0200 (CEST)
From: domski <doml@alum.mit.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Great advice
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Well, for the record, all of those remedies worked for me.

pdf2ps followed by ps2pdf worked perfectly.

The gconftool override_restrictions worked.

And the pdftk worked too.

Nice work guys!

XOX DOM



Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 06:06:53 +0200
From: "Georg Heinrich" <georg.heinrich@gh-blue.de>
To: debian-laptop <debian-laptop@lists.debian.org>,
	debian-powerpc <debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org>,
	debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: etch/powerbook G4 wlan/wpa not working
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Hello,

I don't get wlan with wpa working on my powerbook g4 with etch.

This is the lspci output:

0001:10:12:0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g
Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)

This is my /etc/network/interfaces file:

auto eth2
iface eth2 inet manual
    wpa-sriver  wext
    wpa-roam    /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

iface office inet dhcp

iface anywhere inet dhcp

This is my /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf:

ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant

network={
    id_str="office"
    ssid="gh-office-wlan"   # = airport network name
    psk="64-byte hex-string obtained with wpa_passphrase"
}

network={
    id_str="anywhere"
    ssid=""
    key_mgmt=NONE
}

The network-admin says "wireless network eth2 active" but under
properties, the network is not selected. It appears in the pop-up menu
though and I can select it, but afterwards ping returns "network unreachable".
There is no wpa_action.log file in /var/log.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,

    G. Heinrich



Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:07:23 -0400
From: Scott Gifford <sgifford@suspectclass.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Security question: are these vulnerabilities addressed?
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Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> writes:


> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:23:46AM -0400, Scott Gifford wrote:

>> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> writes:

[...]

>> > BTW, is upgrade to Etch from Sarge not an option in your case? 
>> 
>> Our upgrade from Woody to Sarge was so disastrous, I will need more
>> time for this client to forget about it before I can propose another
>> upgrade.  :-)
>> 
>

> what were the woody -> sarge issues? perhaps they've been addressed...


Postgres completely fell apart, and it took many hours to piece things
back together.

-----Scott.



Date: 01 Jun 2007 04:37:45 GMT
From: Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@mail.mcgill.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: [SOLVED] Re: console keymap and console-setup
Message-ID: <slrnf5vc5d.jgl.tyler.smith@blackbart.mynetwork>

On 2007-05-31, Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@mail.mcgill.ca> wrote:

> On 2007-05-31, Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> wrote:

>>
>> I think that in the end console-setup uses the definitions in
>> /etc/default/console-setup, which have a syntax similar to the keyboard
>> section in xorg.conf, e.g.
>>
>> XKBMODEL=""
>> XKBLAYOUT="es"
>> XKBVARIANT="nodeadkeys"
>> XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch"
>>
>> Can you achieve your custom keyboard layout like that? (The above works
>> for me, but I never tried any fancy stuff with console-setup's keyboard
>> layouts.)
>>
>

> The documentation for console-setup is very sketchy, and basically
> just says use the same options you use for your xorg.conf. Well, I've
> done that, and it still doesn't work. This is very frustrating.

>

> Thanks for your suggestions though!

>

> Tyler

>

Ok, I've got what I needed for the console sorted out. I couldn't
figure out the xorg-like options for console-setup. You'd think that
somewhere in the many man pages on xorg and console-setup and kbd and
keyboard and ... someone might have thought to explain what the
options actually do, beyond just listing what they are! It's all fine
and well to tell me how to control my keyboard groups, and how to get
to level 3, but I have no idea why I'd want to do either. At least
Wikipedia could tell me what a dead key was.

Anyways, I ended up purging console-setup. The only thing I liked
about it was the terminus font, and that was easy enough to manage on
my own, with a consolechars command added to .bash_profile. I put my
custom keymap somewhere, I'll probably never find it again, but I
changed the keymap.sh script to point to it, so I don't need to know.
Now I get my keymap loaded automatically during boot, and the font is
switched when I log on, and everything is just peachy. The keymap I'm
using is perfect for emacs, but it does alter the behaviour of a few
keys (arrows and page_{up|down}) when I use aptitude, mutt, and slrn,
but alternatives are available.

I have one more keyboard issue, but it's with xterm, so I'll leave
that until tomorrow.

Thanks for all the tips!

Tyler



Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:29:40 +0100
From: debian <debian@benburb.demon.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How do I listen to radio?
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On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:28:57PM -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote:


> about:plugins.  But, BBC radio is a nogo, as above.  Same failure at CSPAN, 


My 2c:

when I click on the Radio Player icon (Radio3 in my case), I click on
"Listen using stand-alone Real Player".  I then save the file to disk.
At the cl I key: realplay <filename>.  Works grand.

Joe


Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:48:22 -0400
From: Andrei Morgan <andrei_morgan@fifthhorseman.net>
To: Georg Heinrich <georg.heinrich@gh-blue.de>
Cc: debian-laptop <debian-laptop@lists.debian.org>,
	debian-powerpc <debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org>,
	debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: etch/powerbook G4 wlan/wpa not working
Message-ID: <465FB326.3040202@fifthhorseman.net>
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hi,

Georg Heinrich wrote:

> I don't get wlan with wpa working on my powerbook g4 with etch.


you probably need bcm43xxx-fwcutter package. i wrote up how i got mine
working: http://travelsoforion.net/debian-wireless

	--asm


> This is the lspci output:
> 
> 0001:10:12:0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g
> Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
> 
> This is my /etc/network/interfaces file:
> 
> auto eth2
> iface eth2 inet manual
>     wpa-sriver  wext
>     wpa-roam    /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
> 
> iface office inet dhcp
> 
> iface anywhere inet dhcp
> 
> This is my /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf:
> 
> ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
> 
> network={
>     id_str="office"
>     ssid="gh-office-wlan"   # = airport network name
>     psk="64-byte hex-string obtained with wpa_passphrase"
> }
> 
> network={
>     id_str="anywhere"
>     ssid=""
>     key_mgmt=NONE
> }
> 
> The network-admin says "wireless network eth2 active" but under
> properties, the network is not selected. It appears in the pop-up menu
> though and I can select it, but afterwards ping returns "network unreachable".
> There is no wpa_action.log file in /var/log.
> 
> Any ideas?
> Thanks in advance,
> 
>     G. Heinrich
> 
> 
> 

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Date:  Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:43:51 +0100
From: Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: protest: why  etch exclude mencoder from mplayer
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 21:28:55 -0400
Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:


> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 06:22:47PM -0700, Serena Cantor wrote:
> > i'm happy to learn etch include mplayer
> > so i install etch, only to use mplayer
> > only to learn mencoder is not included
> > 
> > Why?
> 
> What is mencoder?
> 
> It may not be possible to be part of debian but it may be on
> debian-multimedia.org.


That is indeed the case:

~$ apt-cache policy mencoder
mencoder:
  Installed: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3
  Candidate: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3 0
        500 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

-- 

Liam



Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:08:04 +0200
From: Jan Willem Stumpel <jstumpel@planet.nl>
To: andrew.james.barr@gmail.com
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: symlinks question
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Andrew J. Barr wrote:

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> On Thu, 31 May 2007 21:01:44 +0200
> Jan Willem Stumpel <jstumpel@planet.nl> wrote:
> 

>> Is there a single command to change the target of a symlink?

> 
> Try using the -f switch on ln.


Thanks! I had seen the -f switch in the ln man page, but hadn't
tried it because it says

  -f, --force
      remove existing destination files

I somehow thought from this that the file itself would be removed
(instead of just the destination part of the link).

The text in the man page should be read as:

     override the target part of an existing link,
     if it points to an ordinary file

.. because, sadly, and somewhat illogically, ln -sf does *not*
override an existing target if it is a directory! So for this case
it it back to "remove old link; create new link".

Regards, Jan

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