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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #1819

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1819

Today's Topics: 

  =?iso-8859-9?B?RfBpdGltIHZlIERhbv3+b  [ "interaktif akademi"  ]
  Re: Unexpected irq trap when booting  [ Jacob S  ]
  Re: shrink /home                      [ "s. keeling"  ]
  Re: X problems                        [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  Re: Unexpected irq trap when booting  [ "s. keeling"  ]
  Re: shrink /home                      [ Till Wimmer  ]
  Re: X problems                        [ Kamaraju S Kusumanchi  ]
  Re: how to find the specs of a monit  [ Andrew Sackville-West 

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:12:13 +0300


From: "interaktif akademi" <interaktifakademi@gmail.com>
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Fiziki bir

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Can we help you?X

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L=FCtfen


Akademik kadromuz e=F0itim programlar=FDm=FDz=FD ve sistemimiz hakk=FDnda =
daha detayl=FD


bilgi edinebilmeniz i=E7in akdemi adresimiz www.interaktifakademi.com ve =
dersane adresimiz  www.interaktifdersane.com adresini
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ziyaret ediniz.<o:p></o:p></span></p>


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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sayg=FDlar=FDm=FDzla,

<span class=3DSpellE>=DDnteraktif</span> Akademi&nbsp;&#8211;<span =

class=3DSpellE>=DDnteraktif</span>

<span class=3DSpellE>Dersane</span> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:32:52 +0200


From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5kon_Alstadheim?= <hakon@alstadheim.priv.no>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: How Can I Setup procmail to deliver into /var/mail

Message-ID: <467AEE84.4040002@alstadheim.priv.no>
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Orestes leal wrote:

> Hi Folks!
>
> I have a simple configuration that trouhg fetchmail procmail deliver all mail to
> /var/spool/mail, the thing it's that I want procmail deliver all mails to /var/mail.
> Only that, thanks to all of you folks.
>
>   



Why ? Why not just make a symlink? If you must, you can set $DEFAULT to 
/var/mail/$LOGNAME.



Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:57:11 -0400


From: Orestes leal <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: How Can I Setup procmail to deliver into /var/mail

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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:32:52 +0200


H=E5kon Alstadheim <hakon@alstadheim.priv.no> wrote:


> Orestes leal wrote:
> > Hi Folks!
> >
> > I have a simple configuration that trouhg fetchmail procmail deliver al=


l mail to


> > /var/spool/mail, the thing it's that I want procmail deliver all mails =
to /var/mail.

> > Only that, thanks to all of you folks.
> >
> >  =20
> Why ? Why not just make a symlink?

Do you need help?X

I don't think so, it's get me ERR AUTH FAILED all the time with symlinks



> If you must, you can set $DEFAULT to=20
> /var/mail/$LOGNAME.



My .procmailrc it's this.



DEFAULT=3D/var/mail/$LOGNAME


LOGFILE=3D$HOME/.procmaillog


LOGABSTRACT=3Dno


#VERBOSE=3Don solo para depurar


VERBOSE=3Dyes


FORMAIL=3D/usr/bin/formail


NL=3D"


"




This do nothing diferent, still deliver all the messages to /var/spool/mail=
 instead of /var/mail



And I call fetchmai like this to test:



fetchmail -akv -m "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T"



Any help?


Do you need more help?X

Best Regards.


Orestes.



Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:31:03 -0400


From: Curt Howland <Howland@priss.com>


To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Turning off the %^&* scroll wheel
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Hi. Up to date Sid.



Over this last week, something happened to the mouse interface.



I have a laptop with a touchpad. For some reason, now there is 
a "scroll wheel" area on the right side of this touchpad, something I 
never turned on deliberately.



There is an option in the KDE control panel to make the "scroll wheel" 
slow down, but nothing to turn it off.


Can we help you?X

I would very much like to turn it the %^&* off. Is there some hidden 
option I can select/unselect that I've been unable to find?



Last week there was no "scroll wheel".



Curt-



  •   -- 
September 11th, 2001
The proudest day for gun control and central 
planning advocates in American history



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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:14:01 -0500


From: Jacob S <stormspotter@6Texans.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Unexpected irq trap when booting

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Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:37:59 GMT


From: "s. keeling" <keeling@spots.ab.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: shrink /home


Message-ID: <slrnf7m2un.7et.keeling@heretic.spots.ab.ca>



Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@uerj.br>:

> 
>  I need to shrink my /home partition (/home has its own partition in the
>  system). It is formatted in xfs, so shrink is not supported. In order to
>  shrink it I am planning to use gparted in the following way:
> 
>  1 - To do a backup of all files in the /home directory, including the
>  hidden ones.
> 
>  2 - Unmount the partition
> 
>  2 - Erase the partition
> 
>  3 - Create a new partition with the desired smaller size and filesystem

Don't know where to look next?X

> 
>  4 - Mount it as /home
> 
>  5 - Restore all files from the backup


Is shrink supported in other fs types?  If so, do steps 1 & 2, mkfs -t
ext[23], shrink it, restore data, mount it on /home.  mkfs will do 2b
above, btw.  Doesn't save you much, I suppose, but every bit helps.



-- 
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(*)    
http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling          Linux Counter #80292
- -    
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html    Please, don't Cc: me.


Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:36:21 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: X problems
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 04:58:06PM -0400, Zach wrote:
> On 6/21/07, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> >
> >first thing I'd do is very closely read the xorg.conf and
> >/var/log/Xorg.0.log generated by *each* system and look for critical
> >differences.
> >
> >It could be something as simple as the dpi setting, for example. It
> >could also be a theme thing. THe default fonts, colors, etc could just
> >be a better setup for you.
>=20
> Ok, do you know a general way to increase the screen brightness in X?

[...]

I don't think so, unless the driver has it. man ati. also, maybe
ddccontrol would be useful

A

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:38:30 GMT
From: "s. keeling" <keeling@spots.ab.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to find the specs of a monitor
Message-ID: <slrnf7m6g6.7et.keeling@heretic.spots.ab.ca>

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com>:
>  Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 07:56:01PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> >>
> >> It is not stupid at all. The problem is that I do not know the model of
> >> this monitor. All it says on the LCD panel is that it is a Dell monitor.
> >> There is no other information like model number etc.,
> > 
> > nothing on the back or bottom or anywhere?
> > okay. do this
> > 
> > X -configure
> 
>  When I run
> 
>  X -configure
> 
>  The Xorg.0.log is about 20 Kb. Since it is a bit big, I uploaded it to
>  http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/Xorg.0.log_20070621.txt 

Hey Kamaraju.  I can't see anything useful in there.  I'd suggest
hwinfo, but no telling if it would see the second monitor and report
it.  Might be worth a try anyway?

I think your best bet is that "read EDID" suggestion.  Too bad you
can't just hook it up to another box and boot Knoppix.  That'd sort it
out soon enough.  Bon chance.  :-P


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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:47:04 GMT
From: "s. keeling" <keeling@spots.ab.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Unexpected irq trap when booting
Message-ID: <slrnf7m708.7et.keeling@heretic.spots.ab.ca>

Jacob S <stormspotter@6Texans.net>:
> 
>  On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:34:43 -0700
>  Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 06:49:41PM -0500, Jacob S wrote:
> > > 
> > > Good thought, but "acpi=off" did not make any (noticeable)
> > > difference. It still hung during boot with an unexpected irq trap. 
> > 
> > some googling turned up this:
> > 
> > http://www.mepis.org/node/10972
> 
>  Thanks for the tip. I turned off everything the BIOS will let me turn
>  off... USB, lan, wifi, modem, etc. and it still had the irq trap during

A shot in the dark from /var/log/messages:

   If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq".  If it helps, post a
   report


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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:29:50 +0200
From: Till Wimmer <g4-lisz@tonarchiv.ch>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: shrink /home
Message-ID: <467B260E.3020908@tonarchiv.ch>
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s. keeling wrote:
> Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@uerj.br>:
>   
>>  I need to shrink my /home partition (/home has its own partition in the
>>  system). It is formatted in xfs, so shrink is not supported. In order to
>>  shrink it I am planning to use gparted in the following way:
>>
>>  1 - To do a backup of all files in the /home directory, including the
>>  hidden ones.
>>
>>  2 - Unmount the partition
>>
>>  2 - Erase the partition
>>
>>  3 - Create a new partition with the desired smaller size and filesystem
>>
>>  4 - Mount it as /home
>>
>>  5 - Restore all files from the backup
>>     
>
> Is shrink supported in other fs types?  If so, do steps 1 & 2, mkfs -t
> ext[23], shrink it, 
What's the sense in shrinking an empty partition? Just make the
partition the size you need it, and then format it.
I.E. 1.-5. as you did propose.

Till
> restore data, mount it on /home.  mkfs will do 2b
> above, btw.  Doesn't save you much, I suppose, but every bit helps.
>
>
>   



Date:  Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:29:43 -0400
From: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: X problems
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Zach wrote:

> I remember when I had my old Nvidia card I could use 'nv' or
> 'nvidia' driver to get hardware acceleration working. Any idea how to
> do so for my ATI card?
> 

To enable hardware acceleration, In the "Module" section of xorg.conf you
should load "dri". So the corresponding stanza in /etc/X11/xorg.conf will
look like

Section "Module"
  # bunch of load statements here
  Load "dri"
  # bunch of load statements here
EndSection

hth
raju

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Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:15:59 -0700
From: Larry Fletcher <de-42@extra.lafn.org>
To: Debian-User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Mutt lock sent
Message-ID: <20070622021559.GA11507@localhost.lafn.org>
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Since upgrading to Etch I've started receiving the following
messages from Anacron:

    Subject: Anacron job 'cron.daily' on lotek.lafn.org

    /etc/cron.daily/anacron-sys:
    Couldn't lock /sent

    Could not send the message.
    /

I eventually traced this to emails that mutt sends from the
command line or scripts.  The emails are sent, but they are also
added to file in the ~ directory called "sent" and a zero byte
file is created in the / directory.

Where possible I have changed to mailx, but in some cases
I need to use mutt.  Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

Thanks for any help,

  Larry



Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:20:20 -0400
From: Zach <netrek@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: X problems
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On 6/21/07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> wrote:
>
> To enable hardware acceleration, In the "Module" section of xorg.conf you
> should load "dri". So the corresponding stanza in /etc/X11/xorg.conf will
> look like
>
> Section "Module"
>   # bunch of load statements here
>   Load "dri"
>   # bunch of load statements here
> EndSection

Hi Raju,

My /etc/X11/xorg.conf currently has:


Section "Module"
       ....
       Load    "dri"
       ....

Section "DRI"
       Mode    0666
EndSection

What does the mode indicate? Could that be the problem? Maybe the game
I played was misdetecting, is there a quick way to verify that
hardware acceleration is working?

Zach



Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:29:50 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to find the specs of a monitor
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:38:30AM +0000, s. keeling wrote:
> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com>:
> >  Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >=20
> > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 07:56:01PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It is not stupid at all. The problem is that I do not know the model=
 of
> > >> this monitor. All it says on the LCD panel is that it is a Dell moni=
tor.
> > >> There is no other information like model number etc.,
> > >=20
> > > nothing on the back or bottom or anywhere?
> > > okay. do this
> > >=20
> > > X -configure
> >=20
> >  When I run
> >=20
> >  X -configure
> >=20
> >  The Xorg.0.log is about 20 Kb. Since it is a bit big, I uploaded it to
> >  http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/Xorg.0.log_20070621.txt=20

that log shows a seg fault. Does 'X -configure' produce
/root/xorg.conf.new?=20

that log is from the -configure run. What I'd like to see is the
output from

X -config /root/xorg.conf.new

if one is generated. But I suspect its not since the X server
dies. Otherwise, you're kind of shooting blind, but if you can get
xorg to recognise the second "pipe" or whatever they call a potential
video output, then it will probably detect the monitor reasonably
well. At least enough for you to get a model out of the xorg logs.=20

I don't know if we've covered this, but what are your options for the
second video output? is it BIOS controlled? is there a hot key
involved? It may be that the video out isn't turned on??


>=20
> Hey Kamaraju.  I can't see anything useful in there.  I'd suggest
> hwinfo, but no telling if it would see the second monitor and report
> it.  Might be worth a try anyway?
>=20
> I think your best bet is that "read EDID" suggestion.

Both hwinfo and read-edid fail to show the second monitor in my dual
head rig (just got it set up -- w00t!)...


  Too bad you
> can't just hook it up to another box and boot Knoppix.  That'd sort it
> out soon enough.  Bon chance.  :-P

that's the ticket there...=20

A

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:33:01 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: X problems
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:20:20PM -0400, Zach wrote:
>=20
> What does the mode indicate? Could that be the problem? Maybe the game
> I played was misdetecting, is there a quick way to verify that
> hardware acceleration is working?

on my rig:

andrew@basement:~$ grep -i dri /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep /
-vi driver
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation"
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(EE) VIA(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed.  Disabling DRI.
(EE) MGA(1): Static buffer allocation failed, not initializing the DRI
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 1 is not DRI capable

pretty much says it all. Not sure what it looks like when it works.

A

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