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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1826

Today's Topics:

  Re: ssh on lan by hostname instead o  [ Bob McGowan  ]
  Re: Slightly annoyed question about   [ Tyler MacDonald  ]
  Re: apt-caher or approx?              [ Tod Detre  ]
  Re: /etc is gone                      [ "j j"  ]
  Re: lost sound after dist-upgrade     [ Gary Parker  ]
  Re: Sound card not working            [ Mike McCarty  ]
  Re: /etc is gone                      [ "j j"  ]

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:16:48 -0700
From: Bob McGowan <bob_mcgowan@symantec.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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Chris Lale wrote:
> BartlebyScrivener wrote:

>> Hello,
>>
>> I use unison and rsync on my home LAN. Everything works fine as long
>> as I use ip addresses, for example,
>>
>> ssh rick@192.168.0.5
>>
>> But my router (on home LAN) assigns dynamic ip addresses. So my
>> scripts don't work if the router happens to assign a different address
>> that day to one of my machines.
>>
>> Is there a way to use ssh and rsync using hostname instead of ip
>> address. It seems to me I've had this working once or twice, but then
>> it stops.
>>

>
> Not sure if dnsmasq[1] might help - it can serve the names of local machines
> which are not in the global DNS. I've looked at it but never actually used it
> myself.
>
> [1] http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html
>
>

If you'd rather not set up dnsmasq or need something quicker ;) you may be able to set the router to assign the same IP to the system using the MAC address. I have a DLink that allows this. You then put the IP and host name in your /etc/hosts file.

Do you need help?

From what I can see in the man page for dnsmasq, it would basically do the same thing as the above, it just puts the configuration onto your local server rather than the router (my guess;-)

-- 
Bob McGowan

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:01:05 -0700 From: Mike Bird <mgb-debian@yosemite.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon Message-Id: <200706221401.05916.mgb-debian@yosemite.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 22 June 2007 13:41, Dirk wrote:
> Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon
> is w/o reinstalling the whole debian distribution and hopeing that it
> will be installed automatically?
In my Etch system, start-stop-daemon comes from the dpkg package: $ dpkg -S $(which start-stop-daemon) dpkg: /sbin/start-stop-daemon $ The answer is the "dpkg" before the colon. --Mike Bird

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:02:19 -0700 From: Tyler MacDonald <tyler@yi.org> To: Dirk <noisyb@gmx.net> Cc: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Slightly annoyed question about Debian package system Message-ID: <20070622210219.GB20159@yi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Dirk <noisyb@gmx.net> wrote:
> Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon
> is w/o reinstalling the whole debian distribution and hopeing that it
> will be installed automatically?
Man, that question doesnt sound slightly annoyed, it sounds downright frusturated ;-) dpkg -S start-stop-daemon - Tyler

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:05:18 -0400 From: Tod Detre <tdetre@pantek.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: apt-caher or approx? Message-ID: <467C398E.40109@pantek.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
> I cannot compare with apt-cacher since i have never used it.
I have not been impressed with apt-cacher. There have been several times I had to restart apache to get it to work again and a few times I had to go an manually delete a file because it was corrupt, but apt-cacher wouldn't download a new version. Regards, Tod Detre - -- Pantek, Inc. - http://www.pantek.com/ - info(at)pantek.com +1-877-LINUX-FIX - Expert Open Source Software IT Services. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGfDmNIP3eD7Sc0oYRAvT0AJ9CT/9BcojFx+2kWFr+6A+9BwUctQCfa57b Y0SA0QeEn1rZ662luu6RpCs= =RpaR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:23:08 +0000 From: "j j" <jj6419@gmail.com> To: "Christopher Nelson" <chris@cavein.org> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: /etc is gone Message-ID: <bc8d9170706221423y7d982c7dl13e0111e276e503f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_110429_28600847.1182547388944" ------=_Part_110429_28600847.1182547388944 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline no ssh. i will evaluatate firewall. thanks On 6/19/07, Christopher Nelson <chris@cavein.org> wrote: >
> On 2007-06-19, j j <jj6419@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have only made backups of /home, but nothing else. I havent found
> > anything in /tmp nor /lost+found. i am not sure how i could have been
> > attacked; maybe when I boot winXP on the same box.
>
> Do you have any services running (ssh, apache, etc) and/or any ports
> open? I would consider re-evaluation of firewall rules, etc, after the
> re-install whether or not you've been attacked.
>
> --
> Christopher Nelson -- chris@cavein.org
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's
> character, give him power. -- Abraham Lincoln
> >
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> > ------=_Part_110429_28600847.1182547388944 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline no ssh.  i will evaluatate firewall. thanks <div>On 6/19/07, Christopher Nelson <<a href="mailto:chris@cavein.org">chris@cavein.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On 2007-06-19, j j <<a href="mailto:jj6419@gmail.com">jj6419@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > I have only made backups of /home, but nothing else.  I havent found > anything in /tmp nor /lost+found.  i am not sure how i could have been > attacked; maybe when I boot winXP on the same box. Do you have any services running (ssh, apache, etc) and/or any ports open?  I would consider re-evaluation of firewall rules, etc, after the re-install whether or not you've been attacked. -- Christopher Nelson -- <a href="mailto:chris@cavein.org">chris@cavein.org</a> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.                -- Abraham Lincoln -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to <a href="mailto:debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org">debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org</a> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact <a href="mailto:listmaster@lists.debian.org"> listmaster@lists.debian.org</a> </blockquote></div> ------=_Part_110429_28600847.1182547388944--

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:54:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Gary Parker <reverend@churchofbacon.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: lost sound after dist-upgrade Message-ID: <loom.20070622T214012-726@post.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kushal Kumaran <kushal <at> it.iitb.ac.in> writes:
> Check your xmms preferences. Is xmms using OSS or alsa output? OSS
> is deprecated.
OK. I changed the xmms output plugin from oss to alsa. Now I don't get an error message, but I also get no sound. >> I notice that I don't seem to have any alsa packages installed. None were >> removed during the upgrade.
>
> I don't understand. If they weren't removed during upgrade and you
> don't have them now, then you didn't have them installed before.
> alsa-base and alsa-utils should be the packages you want. Installing
> alsa-utils gets you alsaconf and alsamixer.
Yes, this is where I am confused. I read that Debian with a 2.6 kernel loads alsa modules by default? I was surprised that I didn't have any alsa packages installed since I had sound before switching from the 2.6.8 kernel to the 2.6.18 kernel. So, I was hesitant to install them, fearing I might make things worse. Fortunately, after installing alsa-base (which required linux-sound-base lsof) and alsa-utils, I have sound again. I notice that the module list is almost the same. Now snd_intel8x0 and snd_ac97_codec are not loaded. Maybe that was part of the problem. Also, /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer are now present, for whatever that is worth. Thanks. Gary Parker

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:03:10 -0700 From: michael@estone.ca To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: hddtemp value Message-ID: <20070622140310.0s0ak432o888o0oo@estone.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quoting Pol Hallen <debianen@fuckaround.org>:
> Hi folks :-)
>
> Which value hddtemp show? (about my ata disks, between 45-55 C)
>
> Is it correct? Or I should worry?
> 45-55 C seems a little hot. They will probalby work for you but your drives will probably die sooner than later. Either they are too close together and/or you need more direct fans on your drives. I think normal operating temps for drives is between 35 and 40 C. perhaps check with your drive manufacturer and check the recommended operating temps. Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:29:59 +0000 From: "j j" <jj6419@gmail.com> To: "Daniel James" <daniel@64studio.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, debian-multimedia@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: /etc is gone Message-ID: <bc8d9170706221429y619d56dfg17b4c8f9e9cdc01a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_110473_29039614.1182547799805" ------=_Part_110473_29039614.1182547799805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Daniel I will.. Thanks jj On 6/19/07, Daniel James <daniel@64studio.com> wrote: >
> Hi jj,
>
> > I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio). i just
> discovered
> > that /etc directory is missing.
>
> I would recommend a clean install, because /etc stores most of your
> configuration files. Without that directory, you're going to have a lot
> of trouble.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Daniel
> ------=_Part_110473_29039614.1182547799805 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Daniel I will.. Thanks jj <div>On 6/19/07, Daniel James <<a href="mailto:daniel@64studio.com">daniel@64studio.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi jj, > I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio).  i just discovered > that /etc directory is missing. I would recommend a clean install, because /etc stores most of your configuration files. Without that directory, you're going to have a lot of trouble. Cheers! Daniel </blockquote></div> ------=_Part_110473_29039614.1182547799805--

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:13:32 -0500 From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net> To: Debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Sound card not working Message-ID: <467C3B7C.1000506@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike McCarty wrote: [having problems] I don't have direct access to the machine, but I'm going over to my friend's house this weekend, and I'll get back here next week early with results. Thanks to all who responded. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:20:00 -0400 From: Tod Detre <tdetre@pantek.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ssh on lan by hostname instead of dynamic ip Message-ID: <467C3D00.6000000@pantek.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
> Is there a way to use ssh and rsync using hostname instead of ip
> address. It seems to me I've had this working once or twice, but then
> it stops.
You could set up your dhcp server to talk to a dns server and do your hostnames automatically, but it would require a lot of setup. I think the easiest thing would be if you're machines are set up with ipv6 and are on the same lan, just use the ipv6 local address. you can get this by doing ifconfig and using the inet6 addr. It should start with fe80. Yeah, ipv6 address are long and hard to remember, but you can copy and paste and put it in your script. The address is based on the MAC address of your card and so shouldn't change unless you change hardware. Use ping6 to see if the machines can ping each other. Regards, Tod Detre - -- Pantek, Inc. - http://www.pantek.com/ - info(at)pantek.com +1-877-LINUX-FIX - Expert Open Source Software IT Services. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGfD0AIP3eD7Sc0oYRAnFBAJ0WZXjaGPXuke9hvxjZbKZ+hZ62SQCcDU2m 0+K9G/1e2vv9QhJsEknc+sQ= =1cVk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:47:06 +0000 From: "j j" <jj6419@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, "Karl E. Jorgensen" <karl@jorgensen.org.uk> Subject: Re: /etc is gone Message-ID: <bc8d9170706221447s7b153dc1n7438321bafe80cda@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_110621_24218636.1182548826741" ------=_Part_110621_24218636.1182548826741 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi I usually use /mnt or media directories. No offense taken, you are making a point. But /proc directory is empty. weird! well, the biggest problem was my system wouldn't finish boot. boot ing proccess would hang around inittab error. I used a livecd to look around and discovered no /etc. jj On 6/20/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <karl@jorgensen.org.uk> wrote: >
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio). i just
> discovered that
> > /etc directory is missing. I dont think i deleted it, but it seems that
> I must
> > have.
>
> Perhaps not.
>
> Things to look at:
>
> - you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely
> stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's time to
> be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell)
>
> - You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...)
>
> - Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or
> filesystem corruption would be very interesting...)
>
> I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if /etc/ was
> really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems. Hence the
> somewhat paranoid checks...
>
> Hope this helps
> --
> Karl E. Jorgensen
> karl(at)jorgensen.org.uk http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/
> karl(at)jorgensen.com http://karl.jorgensen.com
> ==== Today's fortune:
> The sum of the Universe is zero.
>
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> > ------=_Part_110621_24218636.1182548826741 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi I usually use /mnt or media directories.  No offense taken, you are making a point.  But /proc directory is empty. weird! well, the biggest problem was my system wouldn't finish boot.   boot ing proccess would hang around inittab error.   I used a livecd to look around and discovered no /etc. jj <div>On 6/20/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <<a href="mailto:karl@jorgensen.org.uk">karl@jorgensen.org.uk</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote: > Hello > > I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio).  i just discovered that > /etc directory is missing.  I dont think i deleted it, but it seems that I must > have. Perhaps not. Things to look at: - you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely   stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's time to   be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell) - You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...) - Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or   filesystem corruption would be very interesting...) I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if /etc/ was really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems.  Hence the somewhat paranoid checks... Hope this helps -- Karl E. Jorgensen <a href="mailto:karl(at)jorgensen.org.uk">karl(at)jorgensen.org.uk</a>  <a href="http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/">http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/</a> <a href="mailto:karl(at)jorgensen.com">karl(at)jorgensen.com</a>     <a href="http://karl.jorgensen.com">http://karl.jorgensen.com</a> ==== Today's fortune: The sum of the Universe is zero. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGeYfEi+PVvwZpXJgRAtRbAKCANRiGi883d5kzRh0Tz7pC9qtliQCffyEn ZM8vsomNSRoOyg4kfAOYhuM= =UVaG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </blockquote></div> ------=_Part_110621_24218636.1182548826741-- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #1826 ************************************************** Received on Fri Jun 22 17:53:54 2007

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