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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #1827

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1827

Today's Topics: 

  Re: /etc is gone                      [ "j j"  ]
  Re: Is there any chance to find out   [ Tod Detre  ]
  Lost internet connection after upgra  [ Frank McCormick 
  Re: 2.6 kernel upgrade gives garbled  [ "amhoov@gmail.com" <amhoov@gmail.co ]
  Re: Lost internet connection after u  [ Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotr ]



Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:49:47 +0000


From: "j j" <jj6419@gmail.com>


To: "Bob McGowan" <rmcgowan@veritas.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: /etc is gone


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where do find all that is printed before i get a shell prompt? /var/log/?
jj


Do you need help?X

On 6/21/07, Bob McGowan <rmcgowan@veritas.com> wrote:

>
> Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote:
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio).  i just
> discovered that
> >> /etc directory is missing.  I dont think i deleted it, but it seems
> that I must
> >> have.
> >
> > Perhaps not.
> >
> > Things to look at:
> >
> > - you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely
> >   stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's time to
> >   be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell)
> >
> > - You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...)
> >
> > - Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or
> >   filesystem corruption would be very interesting...)
> >
> > I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if /etc/ was
> > really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems.  Hence the
> > somewhat paranoid checks...
>
> Not least of which would be no password file, hence no way to log
> in.  Plus, no rc scripts to bring the system up, either.  So, I'd suggest
> the system has booted into some sort of maintencance mode.  Or, you're
> simply in maintenance mode for some other reason, running from some sort of
> RAM disk?
>
> More info is needed, as printed during the startup, particularly just
> before the point where you get a shell prompt.
>
> >
> > Hope this helps
>
> --
> Bob McGowan
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where do find all that is printed before i get a shell prompt? /var/log/?<br>jj<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/21/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Bob McGowan</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:rmcgowan@veritas.com">rmcgowan@veritas.com

> wrote:
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote:

>> Hello
>>
>> I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio).  i just discovered that
>> /etc directory is missing.  I dont think i deleted it, but it seems that I must
>> have.

>
> Perhaps not.
>
> Things to look at:
>
> - you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely
>   stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's time to

>   be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell)
>
> - You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...)
>
> - Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or

Do you need more help?X


>   filesystem corruption would be very interesting...)
>
> I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if /etc/ was
> really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems.  Hence the

> somewhat paranoid checks...

Not least of which would be no password file, hence no way to log in.  Plus, no rc scripts to bring the system up, either.  So, I'd suggest the system has booted into some sort of maintencance mode.  Or, you're simply in maintenance mode for some other reason, running from some sort of RAM disk?


More info is needed, as printed during the startup, particularly just before the point where you get a shell prompt.

>
> Hope this helps

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:33:56 -0400
From: Tod Detre <tdetre@pantek.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon 

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> Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon
> is w/o reinstalling the whole debian distribution and hopeing that it
> will be installed automatically?

Can we help you?X

I really like the program apt-file. It allows you to search all of the packages available on your apt sources for a specific file, even if they're not installed.

Regards,
Tod Detre

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:45:10 -0400
From: Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca> To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Lost internet connection after upgrade 

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  Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated the dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me errors. Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1
Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract from the boot log: 

Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Running 0dns-down to make sure resolv.conf is
ok...done. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Setting up networking....
Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Configuring network interfaces...Internet Systems
Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.5 Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: All rights reserved. 
Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: For info, please visit 

Can't find what you're looking for?X

http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: 
Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on   Socket/fallback
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
interval 3 Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: bound to 192.168.1.8 -- renewal in 34291 seconds. Fri Jun 22 17:27:15 2007: done.

The dangers of running Sid :)

Anybody else having the problem???

Don't know where to look next?X

Thank god Dapper still works :)

  • -- Cheers

Frank

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:45:45 -0500
From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Sound card not working 

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Chris Lale wrote:
>
> dmesg indicates that a Via chipset has been detected:
> Via 686a/8233/8235 audio driver 1.9.1-ac3
>
> The Alsa Soundcard Matrix[1] indicates that this is built into the motherboard
> ("VIA southbridge AC97 audio").

I just talked on the 'phone, and this is not a built-in card. It is some version or other of a SoundBlaster.

Anyway, I'll have a look and get back next week.

Confused? Frustrated?X

Mike 

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:51:04 -0600 From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Why stunnel3? Message-ID: <20070622215104.GA3140@dementia.proulx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline vince wrote:
> Two versions of stunnel are available - stunnel3 and stunnel4. Normally
> I would expect the higher numbered version to be the most recent and
> better supported version.
Agreed. But this is up to the package maintainer. You might want to file a BTS requesting it.
> Form some reason I don't know, I'm running stunnel3 and
> # apt-cache show stunnel
> reports
> Version: 2:3.26-dfsg-2
> Replaces: stunnel4
>
> Why has stunnel3 replaced stunnel4 on Debian?
Both packages replace or conflict with each other. This makes apt happy when moving from one to the other. I do not read that as a statement that stunnel v3 is the progression beyond v4.
> Which is really the preferred version of stunnel?
I always use stunnel4. Bob

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:55:19 -0600 From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Scripting Apt-Get (pop-up screens, e.g. with kernel updates) Message-ID: <20070622215519.GB3140@dementia.proulx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> # DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install whatever
In addition to this to be truly batch mode you may want to set DEBCONF_ADMIN_EMAIL="" too. # DEBCONF_ADMIN_EMAIL="" DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install -q -y whatever That will prevent email from being generated for those operations that would generate it. Bob

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:56:23 -0400 From: Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca> To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Lost internet connection after upgrade Message-id: <20070622175623.5b15baf8.fmccormick@videotron.ca> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sending again as I don't **think** it worked the first time. If its a duplicate I apologize in advance. Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated the dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me errors. Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1 Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract from the boot log: Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Running 0dns-down to make sure resolv.conf is ok...done. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Setting up networking.... Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Configuring network interfaces...Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.5 Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: All rights reserved. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on Socket/fallback Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1 Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1 Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: bound to 192.168.1.8 -- renewal in 34291 seconds. Fri Jun 22 17:27:15 2007: done. The dangers of running Sid :) Anybody else having the problem??? Thank god Dapper still works :) - -- Cheers Frank

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:02:26 -0600 From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Waking up server during boot prevents NFS mounts after upgrade to etch Message-ID: <20070622220226.GC3140@dementia.proulx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Malte Forkel wrote:
> After upgrading the clients from sarge to etch, mounting NFS volumes
> does not work anymore if the server wasn't up already.
I think that should be considered a bug. Traditional behavior should have the clients block waiting for the server to come online and then continue normally after that. If you agree then please file a bug. This might help. Are you aware of the NFS mount option 'bg'? bg If the first NFS mount attempt times out, retry the mount in the background. After a mount operation is backgrounded, all subsequent mounts on the same NFS server will be backgrounded immediately, without first attempting the mount. A missing mount point is treated as a timeout, to allow for nested NFS mounts. This is a traditional method of breaking circular dependencies. But it might help as a workaround to the behavior that you are reporting.
> It takes the server about 1 minute to boot. If the server is up before
> the client boots, NFS mounts work fine.
Lots of things changed. I did not try to recreate your bad behavior but it reads like a bug to me.
> With or without asynchronous mounting. So, may be I have some sort
> of a timing problem?
Using sync versus async is completely different and unrelated. That has to do with the protocol used after the clients have mounted. Bob

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:26:04 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade Message-ID: <20070622222603.GS6921@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="A61Eau4L8twGtri1" Content-Disposition: inline --A61Eau4L8twGtri1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 05:56:23PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
>=20
[...]
>=20
> Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated t=
he
> dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet
> connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable
> modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me err=
ors.
> Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1
> Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract from=
the
> boot log:
>=20
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Running 0dns-down to make sure resolv.conf is
> ok...done. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Setting up networking....
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Configuring network interfaces...Internet Syste=
ms
> Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.5 Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Copyright 2004-20=
06
> Internet Systems Consortium. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: All rights reserve=
d.
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dh=
cp/
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007:=20
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on Socket/fallback
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> interval 3 Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: bound to 192.168.1.8 -- renewal in 34291 second=
s.
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:15 2007: done.
>=20
well you're getting ip. what is the output of=20 ifconfig eth0 what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf what are the results of pinging by ip?
> The dangers of running Sid :)
>=20
weee.... its worth it though, IMO
> Anybody else having the problem???
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:38:01 -0000 From: "amhoov@gmail.com" <amhoov@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 2.6 kernel upgrade gives garbled video (w/o X11) Message-ID: <1182551881.723395.276060@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Jun 22, 1:20 pm, Andrew Sackville-West <and...@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:12:42PM -0000, amh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi all,
>
> > I recently attempted to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.27 to 2.6.18 on my
> > Sarge installation. First off, I had to change my sources.list to use
> > the Etch packages because of a dependency loop involving libc6.
>
> what was the problem? there are 2.6 series kernel in sarge (2.6.8 I
> think). You should be able to just do it without messing with Etch
> packages. and since you've started... you may need to finish moving up
> to Etch.
>
>
>
> > However, I did the kernel installation w/ "apt-get install kernel-
> > image-2.6-686" and the installation completed successfully w/ my Grub
> > configurations updated automatically.
>
> > When I restarted the machine and selected the 2.6 kernel, the boot
> > process proceeded fine (and I could read all the text scrolling by).
> > But when it came time to display the login prompt (terminal only, it's
> > a server, so there's no X11) the screen got all garbled. Essentially
> > all I can see is flickering black and white boxes covering the screen.
> > However, I can login and reboot the machine - I just can't see what
> > I'm typing.
>
> > Anyone have any suggestions on this one? I tried installing the kernel-
> > image-2.6-386 on a lark, but I still ran into the same problem. I'm
> > not passing any special kernel parameters on boot to the 2.4 kernel
> > either. What am I missing?
>
> I think there is some new console-font stuff happening. You can see it
> with a successful post-sarge boot .. the screen flickers while it sets
> up the consoles. Have you tried booting single-user mode?
>
> A
No, I haven't tried booting into single user mode yet. That's a good idea. As for the error, I was getting this error when trying to upgrade the kernel:
>>kernel-image-2.6-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6-486 but it is not going to be installed
>>libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.5-9+b1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13 is to be installed
Then, I get this error when trying to upgrade libc6:
>>WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version
>>2.6.1 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it
>>before installing glibc.
>>dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.5-9+b1_i386.deb (--unpack):
Would it be a good idea to change my sources back to Sarge, apt-get update and then try installing the 2.6 kernel package again? Essentially, some packages I'd like to install seem to be giving me libc6 errors, so the whole point of the kernel upgrade was to be able to upgrade libc6. Thanks, Aaron

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:57:26 -0400 From: Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade Message-id: <20070622185726.0b48b443.fmccormick@videotron.ca> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:26:04 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> >
> > Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated the
> > dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet
> > connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable
> > modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me errors.
> > Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1
> > Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract from the
> > boot log:
>
> well you're getting ip. what is the output of
>
> ifconfig eth0
sudo ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0C:F1:90:91:EF inet addr:192.168.1.8 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20c:f1ff:fe90:91ef/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:30 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:33 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:5265 (5.1 KiB) TX bytes:2947 (2.8 KiB) ping www.google.ca connect: Network is unreachable
>
> what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
>
nameserver 192.168.1.1 ( I run a router before the cable modem )
> >
>
> weee.... its worth it though, IMO
There are days I wonder :)
>
> > Anybody else having the problem???
>
> nope, but I updated yesterday, I think.
>
Well if you reboot you may be in the same boat :) -- Cheers Frank End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #1827 ************************************************** Received on Fri Jun 22 19:24:11 2007

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