Re: OT: Say NO to the Microsoft Offi [ Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com> ]
Re: 2.6 kernel upgrade gives garbled [ Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwe ]
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:23:52 -0700
From: Bob McGowan <bob_mcgowan@symantec.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: /etc is gone
Message-ID: <467C5A08.4040403@symantec.com>
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j j wrote:
> where do find all that is printed before i get a shell prompt? /var/log/?
> jj
Probably not, if you're not getting a normal boot. In other words, if
there are problems with a disk drive preventing the file system where
/etc is from mounting (that's almost always /), then wherever /var/log
is may also be having problems.
Besides, without / and /etc/fstab, how would the system be able to
figure out where to find /var/log?
You'll just need to copy down on paper what you see on the screen. You
can also try typing 'mount' and a carriage return to see what it says is
mounted.
Of course, this all assumes the system is having major problems early on
in the boot process. You have not provided, as yet, enough information
to figure out where the system stands in the normal sequence. Anything
printed on your monitor and still visible could help.
>
> On 6/21/07, *Bob McGowan* <rmcgowan@veritas.com
> <mailto:rmcgowan@veritas.com>> wrote:
>
> Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote:
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio). i just
> discovered that
> >> /etc directory is missing. I dont think i deleted it, but it
> seems that I must
> >> have.
> >
> > Perhaps not.
> >
> > Things to look at:
> >
> > - you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely
> > stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's
> time to
> > be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell)
> >
> > - You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...)
> >
> > - Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or
> > filesystem corruption would be very interesting...)
> >
> > I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if
> /etc/ was
> > really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems. Hence the
> > somewhat paranoid checks...
>
> Not least of which would be no password file, hence no way to log
> in. Plus, no rc scripts to bring the system up, either. So, I'd
> suggest the system has booted into some sort of maintencance
> mode. Or, you're simply in maintenance mode for some other reason,
> running from some sort of RAM disk?
>
> More info is needed, as printed during the startup, particularly
> just before the point where you get a shell prompt.
>
> >
> > Hope this helps
>
> --
> Bob McGowan
>
>
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:26:44 +0100
From: "Karl E. Jorgensen" <karl@jorgensen.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: /etc is gone
Message-ID: <20070622232644.GA31087@einstein.jorgensen.org.uk>
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:49:47PM +0000, j j wrote:
> On 6/21/07, Bob McGowan <rmcgowan@veritas.com > wrote:
>=20
> Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote:
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio). i just
> discovered that
> >> /etc directory is missing. I dont think i deleted it, but it seem=
s that
> I must
> >> have.
> >
> > Perhaps not.
> >
> > Things to look at:
> >
> > - you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely
> > stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's tim=
e to
> > be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell)
> >
> > - You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...)
> >
> > - Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or
> > filesystem corruption would be very interesting...)
> >
> > I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if /etc/=
was
> > really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems. Hence the
> > somewhat paranoid checks...
>=20
> Not least of which would be no password file, hence no way to log
> in. Plus, no rc scripts to bring the system up, either. So, I'd sug=
gest
> the system has booted into some sort of maintencance mode. Or, you're
> simply in maintenance mode for some other reason, running from some s=
ort of
> RAM disk?
>=20
> More info is needed, as printed during the startup, particularly just
> before the point where you get a shell prompt.
>
> where do find all that is printed before i get a shell prompt?=20
> /var/log/?
> jj
Please don't top-post.
For the current kernel instance:
# dmesg | less
will catch the last 8k (or so) messages...
Debian normally saves that in /var/log/dmesg. This only covers from boot=20
to start of sysklogd - stuff after that goes go syslog and is governed=20
by your syslog configuration - normally /var/log/syslog.
But if you're missing /etc, then all bets are off...
--=20
Karl E. Jorgensen
karl(at)jorgensen.org.uk http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/
karl(at)jorgensen.com http://karl.jorgensen.com
=3D=3D=3D=3D Today's fortune:
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error.
-- John Kenneth Galbraith
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:36:01 +0100
From: "Karl E. Jorgensen" <karl@jorgensen.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: /etc is gone
Message-ID: <20070622233601.GB31087@einstein.jorgensen.org.uk>
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:47:06PM +0000, j j wrote:
>=20
> On 6/20/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <karl@jorgensen.org.uk> wrote:
>=20
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio). i just
> discovered that
> > /etc directory is missing. I dont think i deleted it, but it seems=
that
> I must
> > have.
>=20
> Perhaps not.
>=20
> Things to look at:
>=20
> - you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely
> stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's time =
to
> be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell)
>=20
> - You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...)
>=20
> - Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or
> filesystem corruption would be very interesting...)
>=20
> I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if /etc/ w=
as
> really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems. Hence the
> somewhat paranoid checks...
>=20
> Hope this helps
>=20
> I usually use /mnt or media directories. No offense taken, you are makin=
g a
> point. But /proc directory is empty. weird!
>=20
> well, the biggest problem was my system wouldn't finish boot. boot ing
> proccess would hang around inittab error. I used a livecd to look aroun=
d and
> discovered no /etc.
Sounds like a bad case of filesystem corruption - you might find=20
something in /lost+found.
What filesystem type is it? ext2/3 , reiser, xfs ?
--=20
Karl E. Jorgensen
karl(at)jorgensen.org.uk http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/
karl(at)jorgensen.com http://karl.jorgensen.com
=3D=3D=3D=3D Today's fortune:
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:51:17 -0400
From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade
Message-ID: <20070622225117.GA8991@intergate.com>
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Frank McCormick(fmccormick@videotron.ca) is reported to have said:
>
>
> Sending again as I don't **think** it worked the first time.
> If its a duplicate I apologize in advance.
>
> Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated the
> dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet
> connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable
> modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me errors.
> Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1
> Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract from the
> boot log:
>
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Running 0dns-down to make sure resolv.conf is
> ok...done. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Setting up networking....
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Configuring network interfaces...Internet Systems
> Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.5 Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Copyright 2004-2006
> Internet Systems Consortium. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: All rights reserved.
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007:
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on Socket/fallback
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> interval 3 Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: bound to 192.168.1.8 -- renewal in 34291 seconds.
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:15 2007: done.
>
Don't know quite what you mean by the ^^^^^ above. That is what I
see, I just took an interface down then up again, when it _does_ work.
The internet connection is up. Try pinging your cable modem.
Wayne
--
Press any key to continue or any other key to quit...
_______________________________________________________
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:36:07 -0400
From: Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade
Message-id: <20070622193607.dfe78043.fmccormick@videotron.ca>
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:51:17 -0400
Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com> wrote:
> > Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated the
> > dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet
> > connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable
> > modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me errors.
> > Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: bound to 192.168.1.8 -- renewal in 34291 seconds.
> > Fri Jun 22 17:27:15 2007: done.
>
> Don't know quite what you mean by the ^^^^^ above. That is what I
> see, I just took an interface down then up again, when it _does_ work.
>
Just that DHCP **seems** to be ok despite the fact the internet connection
doesn't work. That was an extract from the bootlog, not the result of lowering
then raising eth0
> Try pinging your cable modem.
I will but every attempt at pinging gives me "network unreachable". The
non-working connection is on the other partition so every mail reply is
followed by 2 reboots.
--
Cheers
Frank
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:45:36 -0400
From: Javier Enrique =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ti=E1_Mar=EDn?= <javier@eftssc.co.cu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt-caher or approx?
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El vie, 22-06-2007 a las 15:50 -0300, Andr=C3=A9s Ghigliazza escribi=C3=B3=
:
> Hi there,
>=20
> We will soon have, 5 or 6 Debian boxs (servers and desktops), in our
> LAN. We would like to know, if it is better to use apt-cacher o approx
> for the updates.
>=20
> I couldn't find enough documentation of any of them, to see some
> features, before installing one.
>=20
> Thanks very much,
>=20
> tizo
I tested apt-cacher, apt-proxy and approx.=20
My recomendation is approx: simple and stable.
---
jetm
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:39:36 -0000
From: Waqar <waqarmalik@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade
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Same problem here. The ip address is getting assigned. I had
networkmanager, and it automatically used to update the resolv.conf
I found that it the automatically assigned was empty. I removed
networkmanager and related packages and manually set the /etc/
resolv.conf file.
The network still does not seem to work. I can ping the router, but
nothing beyond.
Yesterday evening while upgrading, there was some conflict about
libcurl3-openssl and libcurl4-openssl packages. I installed the higher
version. Could this be causing the problem.
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:47:48 -0000
From: Waqar <waqarmalik@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade
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I've tried a direct internet connection (w/o router) and that works.
Its only when I'm behind the router that I get 101 NEtwork unreachable
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:51:30 -0000
From: "amhoov@gmail.com" <amhoov@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: 2.6 kernel upgrade gives garbled video (w/o X11)
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On Jun 22, 4:00 pm, "amh...@gmail.com" <amh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 22, 1:20 pm, Andrew Sackville-West
>
>
>
> <and...@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:12:42PM -0000, amh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Hi all,
>
> > > I recently attempted to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.27 to 2.6.18 on my
> > > Sarge installation. First off, I had to change my sources.list to use
> > > the Etch packages because of a dependency loop involving libc6.
>
> > what was the problem? there are 2.6 series kernel in sarge (2.6.8 I
> > think). You should be able to just do it without messing with Etch
> > packages. and since you've started... you may need to finish moving up
> > to Etch.
>
> > > However, I did the kernel installation w/ "apt-get install kernel-
> > > image-2.6-686" and the installation completed successfully w/ my Grub
> > > configurations updated automatically.
>
> > > When I restarted the machine and selected the 2.6 kernel, the boot
> > > process proceeded fine (and I could read all the text scrolling by).
> > > But when it came time to display the login prompt (terminal only, it's
> > > a server, so there's no X11) the screen got all garbled. Essentially
> > > all I can see is flickering black and white boxes covering the screen.
> > > However, I can login and reboot the machine - I just can't see what
> > > I'm typing.
>
> > > Anyone have any suggestions on this one? I tried installing the kernel-
> > > image-2.6-386 on a lark, but I still ran into the same problem. I'm
> > > not passing any special kernel parameters on boot to the 2.4 kernel
> > > either. What am I missing?
>
> > I think there is some new console-font stuff happening. You can see it
> > with a successful post-sarge boot .. the screen flickers while it sets
> > up the consoles. Have you tried booting single-user mode?
>
> > A
>
> No, I haven't tried booting into single user mode yet. That's a good
> idea.
>
> As for the error, I was getting this error when trying to upgrade the
> kernel:
>
> >>kernel-image-2.6-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6-486 but it is not going to be installed
> >>libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.5-9+b1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13 is to be installed
>
> Then, I get this error when trying to upgrade libc6:
>
> >>WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version
> >>2.6.1 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it
> >>before installing glibc.
> >>dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.5-9+b1_i386.deb (--unpack):
>
> Would it be a good idea to change my sources back to Sarge, apt-get
> update and then try installing the 2.6 kernel package again?
> Essentially, some packages I'd like to install seem to be giving me
> libc6 errors, so the whole point of the kernel upgrade was to be able
> to upgrade libc6.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>
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So, I managed to revert back to the Sarge packages and install the
Sarge 2.6 kernel (2.6.8) without issues. However, I'm still getting
the same garbled checkerboard pattern after boot. I tried booting in
single user mode and still got the same video issues at the console.
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:16:15 -0400
From: Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:39:36 +0000
Waqar <waqarmalik@gmail.com> wrote:
> Same problem here. The ip address is getting assigned. I had
> networkmanager, and it automatically used to update the resolv.conf
> I found that it the automatically assigned was empty. I removed
> networkmanager and related packages and manually set the /etc/
> resolv.conf file.
> The network still does not seem to work. I can ping the router, but
> nothing beyond.
>
> Yesterday evening while upgrading, there was some conflict about
> libcurl3-openssl and libcurl4-openssl packages. I installed the higher
> version. Could this be causing the problem.
I just found the problem.
This is the NEW dhclient.conf file. Notice the "request" line is
empty.
#request nothing: let the server send all the parameters it knows
request;
This is the dhclient.conf as it WAS :
request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu;
Just REPLACE your dhclient.conf with the old(er) version, or copy
the request line from the above file and you'll be back in business.
Cheers
Frank
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:25:50 -0700
From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard
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On Friday 22 June 2007 10:32, Manon Metten wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This urgent request was posted on users@openoffice.org
> <user@openoffice.org>by Hagar de l'Est
> < hagar_de_lest@openoffice.org >.
> Is not exactly Debian, but I think also of great importance for all of us.
It is important. But alas, we'll likely have to live with it now since MS
Office creates these bastards by default, and on (and on and on) it goes.
> Please sign the petition here: http://www.noooxml.org/petition.
> (Cookies have to be enabled for this site.)
Signed, thanks for letting us know.
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:54:49 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: 2.6 kernel upgrade gives garbled video (w/o X11)
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:51:30PM -0000, amhoov@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 22, 4:00 pm, "amh...@gmail.com" <amh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 22, 1:20 pm, Andrew Sackville-West
> >
> > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:12:42PM -0000, amh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> >
> > > > I recently attempted to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.27 to 2.6.18 on =
my
> > > > Sarge installation. First off, I had to change my sources.list to u=
se
> > > > the Etch packages because of a dependency loop involving libc6.
> >
[...]
> >
> >
> > > I think there is some new console-font stuff happening. You can see it
> > > with a successful post-sarge boot .. the screen flickers while it sets
> > > up the consoles. Have you tried booting single-user mode?
> >
> >
> > No, I haven't tried booting into single user mode yet. That's a good
> > idea.
> >
> > As for the error, I was getting this error when trying to upgrade the
> > kernel:
> >
> > >>kernel-image-2.6-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6-486 but it is not goin=
g to be installed
> > >>libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (=3D 2.5-9+b1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13 is to be in=
stalled
> >
> > Then, I get this error when trying to upgrade libc6:
> >
> > >>WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version
> > >>2.6.1 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it
> > >>before installing glibc.
> > >>dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.5-9+b1_i386.de=
b (--unpack):
> >
[....]
>=20
> So, I managed to revert back to the Sarge packages and install the
> Sarge 2.6 kernel (2.6.8) without issues. However, I'm still getting
> the same garbled checkerboard pattern after boot. I tried booting in
> single user mode and still got the same video issues at the console.
>=20
so, who knows what else might have gotten changed and what other etch
stuff you may have drug in. One of these things could be causing a
problem. maybe console-tools? just a guess.
Again, if you've partially moved up to etch, you may have to complete
it to get back into a working state.=20
=2E02
A
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