Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:57:11 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade
Message-ID: <20070623005711.GV6921@localhost.localdomain>
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:57:26PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:26:04 -0700
> Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
>=20
> > >=20
> > > Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updat=
ed the
> > > dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my int=
ernet
> > > connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my c=
able
> > > modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me=
errors.
> > > Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1
> > > Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract =
=66rom the
> > > boot log:
> >=20
> > well you're getting ip. what is the output of=20
> >=20
> > ifconfig eth0
>=20
> sudo ifconfig eth0
> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0C:F1:90:91:EF =20
> inet addr:192.168.1.8 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
> inet6 addr: fe80::20c:f1ff:fe90:91ef/64 Scope:Link
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:30 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:33 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000=20
> RX bytes:5265 (5.1 KiB) TX bytes:2947 (2.8 KiB)
>=20
> ping www.google.ca
> connect: Network is unreachable
>=20
okay, how about the output of
route
>=20
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
> >=20
>=20
> nameserver 192.168.1.1 ( I run a router before the cable modem )
maybe try putting in a known nameserver to see if you're getting out,
but I bet you're not...
>=20
> Well if you reboot you may be in the same boat :)
that's the problem with sid... you don't always get those sweet triple
digit uptimes. But I try not to reboot unless there's a new kernel...
A
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:57:56 -0400
From: "Eric d'Alibut" <eric.halibut@gmail.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Where does mailman put...
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...subscriber name and email data.
I have an old now-decommisioned mailman install and I've been asked to
go through the subscriber list for some info. Can't find it!
--
No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut. I am
not a looney! Why should I be tarred with the epithet looney merely
because I have a pet halibut?
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:03:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: which program can read M$ Access file (.mdb)
Message-ID: <355614.52462.qm@web35711.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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openoffice?=20
=20
_________________________________________________________________________=
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in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.
http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=3Dlist&sid=3D396545367
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:05:21 -0400
From: Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade(solved)
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:57:11 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:57:26PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:26:04 -0700
> > Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon
> > > > updated the dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now
> > >
> > > well you're getting ip. what is the output of
> > >
> > > ifconfig eth0
> >
> > sudo ifconfig eth0
> > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0C:F1:90:91:EF
> > inet addr:192.168.1.8 Bcast:192.168.1.255
> > Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20c:f1ff:fe90:91ef/64
> > Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> >
> > ping www.google.ca
> > connect: Network is unreachable
> >
>
> okay, how about the output of
>
> route
I just found the problem.
This is the NEW dhclient.conf file. Notice the "request" line is
empty.
#request nothing: let the server send all the parameters it knows
request;
This is the dhclient.conf as it WAS :
request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu;
Just REPLACE your dhclient.conf with the old(er) version, or copy
the request line from the above file and you'll be back in business.
Cheers
Frank
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:11:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Perrin <clists@perrin.socsci.unc.edu>
To: Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: which program can read M$ Access file (.mdb)
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kexi-mdb-plugin - MS Access (MDB) driver for Kexi
libhk-classes-mdb - MS Access driver plugin for hk_classes
libmdbodbc - MDB tools ODBC module
libmdbtools - mdbtools libraries
mdbtools - JET / MS Access database (MDB) tools
mdbtools-dev - mdbtools development files
mdbtools-gmdb - JET / MS Access database (MDB) file viewer
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Assistant Professor of Sociology; Book Review Editor, _Social Forces_
University of North Carolina - CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA
New Book: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/178592.ctl
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Serena Cantor wrote:
> openoffice?
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate
> in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.
> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367
>
>
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:55:53 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade(solved)
Message-ID: <20070623015553.GW6921@localhost.localdomain>
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:05:21PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:57:11 -0700
> Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> >=20
> > okay, how about the output of
> >=20
> > route
>=20
> I just found the problem.=20
> This is the NEW dhclient.conf file. Notice the "request" line is
> empty.
>=20
so just out of curiousity, did you get to running 'route'? and if so
what did it show?
>=20
> #request nothing: let the server send all the parameters it knows
> request;
>=20
>=20
> This is the dhclient.conf as it WAS :
>=20
> request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
> domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
> netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu;
>=20
> Just REPLACE your dhclient.conf with the old(er) version, or copy
> the request line from the above file and you'll be back in business.
hmmm... was the request line the default before? if so, why did they change
it? may warrant some research and perhaps an email to the devs and/or
bug report.
A
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:51:26 -0400
From: Curt Howland <Howland@priss.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Turning off the %^&* scroll wheel
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On Friday 22 June 2007, Bob McGowan <bob_mcgowan@symantec.com> was
heard to say:
> > ==========
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier "Configured Mouse"
> > Driver "mouse"
> > Option "CorePointer"
> > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> > Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
> > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad"
> > Driver "synaptics"
> > Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
> > Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
> > Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
> > Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
> > EndSection
> > =============
> Which of these two is actually used in the 'ServerLayout' section?
==============
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
EndSection
==============
Ah... both. :^)
> Or if both are there (as they are for my laptop) you could try
> commenting one out to see which is actually defining the wheel.
> Then edit the conf file to change the 'Option "Protocol"' for that
> device to be some other descriptor.
I'll give it a shot and get back to the list.
> Another thought, based on output from 'gpm -t help', the imps name
> is not listed, but imps2 is.
Yes, I meant imps2, I was running from memory. Organic compression is
lossy.
However, this is interesting:
# ps aux | grep gpm
root 2704 0.0 0.0 1720 276 ? Ss Jun20
0:00 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/input/mice -t exps2
# gpm -t help | grep exps2
exps2 (ExplorerPS/2) - IntelliMouse Explorer (ps2) - 3 buttons (wheel
is repeated).
So gpm is being started with an option that lists an explicit wheel.
However, changing this to ps2 and other things with "dpkg-reconfigure
gpm" made no difference in X, however, it did make the mouse stop
working on the console. So obviously it's something specifically to
do with the X configuration.
The console shows no indication that the area of the touchpad that is
acting as a scroll wheel under X is any different from the rest of
the pad, another indication to me that it's something explicitly to
do with X.
> Though the names are from gpm they should match names used by X11,
> since the two have to (and do in my experience) work together.
Yes, well, one of the things I tried was "synps2" with gpm for the
Synaptics touch pad, and that didn't work in the console at all. X
kept right on working through it all, with the wheel.
As I said, let me mess with the xorg.conf a few times, maybe in the
morning, since right now I don't want to restart X a dozen times
trying things out.
Curt-
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:18:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: which program can read M$ Access file (.mdb)
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So many software I have never heard of!
I'd rather install a pirated version of M$ Office
Thanks anyway!
--- Andrew Perrin <clists@perrin.socsci.unc.edu> wrote:
> kexi-mdb-plugin - MS Access (MDB) driver for Kexi
> libhk-classes-mdb - MS Access driver plugin for hk_classes
> libmdbodbc - MDB tools ODBC module
> libmdbtools - mdbtools libraries
> mdbtools - JET / MS Access database (MDB) tools
> mdbtools-dev - mdbtools development files
> mdbtools-gmdb - JET / MS Access database (MDB) file viewer
>=20
>=20
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Andrew J Perrin - andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu - http://perrin.socsci.unc=
.edu
> Assistant Professor of Sociology; Book Review Editor, _Social Forces_
> University of North Carolina - CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA
> New Book: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/178592.ctl
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Serena Cantor wrote:
>=20
> > openoffice?
> >
> >
> >
> > _____________________________________________________________________=
_______________
> > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate
> > in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.
> > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=3Dlist&sid=3D396545367
> >
> >
> > --=20
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
> > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.de=
bian.org
> >
> >
>=20
=20
_________________________________________________________________________=
___________
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.=20
http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:18:54 -0400
From: Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade(solved)
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:55:53 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> so just out of curiousity, did you get to running 'route'? and if so
> what did it show?
with improper dhclient.conf
sudo route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
with proper dhclient.conf
sudo route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
Notice NO default route with the bad config file ?
> > #request nothing: let the server send all the parameters it knows
> > request;
> >
> >
> > This is the dhclient.conf as it WAS :
> >
> > request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
> > domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
> > netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu;
> >
> > Just REPLACE your dhclient.conf with the old(er) version, or copy
> > the request line from the above file and you'll be back in business.
>
> hmmm... was the request line the default before?
Yup, check any dhcpclient package.
if so, why did they
> change it?
Good question. Maybe it's something certain ISP's don't like while it works with
others ??
>>may warrant some research and perhaps an email to the devs
> and/or bug report.
If I could understand the Debian bug reporting system I would
do that.
Cheers
Frank
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 01:58:04 -0000
From: BartlebyScrivener <bscrivener42@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ssh on lan by hostname instead of dynamic ip
Message-ID: <1182563884.951667.79430@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
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On Jun 22, 4:30 pm, Tod Detre <tde...@pantek.com> wrote:
>if you're machines are set up with
> ipv6 and are on the same lan, just use the ipv6 local address. you can
> get this by doing ifconfig and using the inet6 addr. It should start
> with fe80. Yeah, ipv6 address are long and hard to remember, but you can
> copy and paste and put it in your script. The address is based on the
> MAC address of your card and so shouldn't change unless you change
> hardware. Use ping6 to see if the machines can ping each other.
This sounded promising, and the machines are on the same home lan, but
I could not ping6 them or ssh -6 into them using those addresses.
Maybe there's something else I need to configure first?
In the meantime, I just did static ip addresses for the three Debian
machines for the time being.
Thanks so much for the suggestions.
rd
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:39:13 +0800
From: Bob <spam@homeurl.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard
Message-ID: <467C87D1.6050904@homeurl.co.uk>
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Manon Metten wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This urgent request was posted on users@openoffice.org
> <mailto:user@openoffice.org> by Hagar de l'Est
> < hagar_de_lest@openoffice.org <mailto:hagar_de_lest@openoffice.org>>.
> Is not exactly Debian, but I think also of great importance for all of us.
>
> Please sign the petition here: http://www.noooxml.org/petition.
> (Cookies have to be enabled for this site.)
>
> Thanks, Manon.
Done.
thanks
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:41:44 -0400
From: Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: dhcp3-client package (was Lost internet connection after
upgrade(solved))
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:18:54 -0400
Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:55:53 -0700
> Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote
>bugs fixed in
> subsequent releases (3 bugs)
1) #430064 [FIXED dhcp3 3.0.5-2]: New relaxed request usage breaks
networking
2) #430134 [FIXED dhcp3 3.0.5-2]: dhcdbd: does not communicate
default route and dns
3) #254785 [FIXED dhcp3-server 3.0+3.0.1rc11-1]: dhcp3-server:
purging fails on woody :
I guess we can expect a new package any minute now :)
Cheers
Frank
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:47:57 +0800
From: Bob <spam@homeurl.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: problems with radeon driver (solved)
Message-ID: <467C89DD.8050202@homeurl.co.uk>
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Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 14:26 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am running etch in an amd64 system with an ATI Radeon Mobility 9200
>> (AGP) video card. The ATI driver from x.org doesn't work with this card,
>> after a small GUI activity, the screen freezes. I've reported this
>> problem in the past. The only workaround I've found was to install the
>> fglrx-driver package, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the
>> fglrx driver instead the ati one. No more video freezes. But now totem
>> doesn't start, I get the message: The Application "totem" has quit
>> unexpectedly. This problem has to do exclusively with the fglrx driver.
>> I experimented with the ati and fglrx drivers in another i386 machine,
>> and totem didn't start with the fglrx driver. It works fine with the ati
>> driver from x.org.
>>
>
> After a *lot* of googling, I discovered that the problem with the xorg
> driver is the glx module. Disabling it I can use the xorg ati driver
> without problems. And I can run totem and grace too! (they didn't work
> with the driver from ATI) fortunately the machine is only for work, so I
> can do perfectly well without the glx module... I guess
>
Mmm, I use glx on 3 different radeons, what page suggested that was the
problem?
When the screen freezes is it just the screen? Can you ssh in and have
a look at x log?
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:46:53 -0700
From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org>
To: Michael Matthews <erobererunc@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Scripting Apt-Get (pop-up screens, e.g. with kernel updates)
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:23:32AM -0400, Michael Matthews <erobererunc@gmail.com> was heard to say:
> I am wondering if anyone can tell me if there's an easy way, when using
> `apt-get upgrade`, to get around the pop-up configuration screens that occur
> with some updates. One example of this is with a kernel update. It appears
> that the kernel update wants to inform you that you should reboot soon, and
> unfortunately the colorful blue and red screen cannot be circumvented with
> the usual ways. I tried this:
You need to read up on debconf. (the program, not the conference)
Daniel
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:39:32 -0700
From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org>
To: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Sound card not working
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 01:58:18AM -0500, Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net> was heard to say:
> I am administering (or attempting to, anyway) a Debian install
> on a machine a few years old. Debian is not recognizing the
> sound card for some reason. I do hear a "pop" during boot, so
> I suppose that something is recognizing and initing it to some
> degree, but no sounds. I have the output from dmesg as an attachment.
>
> Anyone have some hints as to how to proceed?
I would double-check that the volume is turned up and not muted.
Daniel
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:46:21 -0700
From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org>
To: Torok Balint <toba12@freemail.hu>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Purge leaves some files
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There are two possibilities:
(1) you still have a package installed that owns those files. This
is likely the case for the stuff under /usr/share/doc.
You can find out which packages have installed a file with
dpkg -S (filename).
(2) the package is buggy and doesn't clean up after itself. This is
likely the caes for stuff under /etc.
In this case, slap the maintainer with a bug report.
Daniel
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