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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1847

Today's Topics: 

  Re: RTF - proprietary or open?        [ Mike McCarty  ]
  Re: IPW3945 With Etch                 [ Ananda Samaddar  ]
  NeroLinux                             [ Orestes leal 
  Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor  [ Stephen Cormier <s.cormier@gmx.net> ]
  Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor  [ Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.c ]



Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:42:22 -0500


From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

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John Hasler wrote:

> Celejar writes:
> 
>>What does it even mean for a file format to be open? That the creator
>>can't restrict its use?
> 
> 
> The creator of a format cannot restrict its use.

They why was there a big flap when Unisys restricted use of GIF?
You might have a look here http://lpf.ai.mit.edu/Patents/Gif/Gif.html

All patents require full disclosure, but disclosure does not
mean that use of an invention is unrestricted.


Do you need help?X
>>That the spec has been published?
> 
> 
> Yes.

Which does not mean that the use is unrestricted, AFAIK.


IANAL


Mike

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:49:43 -0800
From: Ken Irving <fnkci@uaf.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Using Debian Package Manager
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> russ421@aol.com:
> 
> > I wanted to install a motherboard monitor.  I found one in the list, xmbmon,
> > and chose to install it.  It said installation complete.  However, I have no
> > idea how to find it and run it.  It's not showing up in the applications list
> > anywhere.


You can see the contents of a package by:

    $ dpkg -L package-name

I often do this and grep or look for files in bin/, etc/, man/, etc. 
directories to get a "jump-start" on what a package contains.  All packages
should put a directory under /usr/share/bin/ containing README files, changelogs,
sometimes examples and other documentation.

Ken
 
-- 
Ken Irving, fnkci@uaf.edu



Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:54:45 +0100
From: Ananda Samaddar <ananda.kumar.samaddar@googlemail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: IPW3945 With Etch
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On Monday 25 June 2007 19:14, Tom Grove wrote:

> It seems as though I am able to install the modules via module-assistant
> and I receive an eth1 with wireless properties.  The problem is that no
> matter what I set my AP to I can't connect to it.  I typically just run
> with WEP but regardless or whether or not I am using WEP/WPA/Nothing I
> can not connect to the AP with this card.  Any ideas or help is much
> appreciated.  Thanks.
>
> -Tom


Make sure the firmware-ipw3945 and ipw3945d packages are installed as well.  
If you use GNOME then install network-manager-gnome.  This is the easiest way 
to connect and should work.  There is a document on the Ubuntu wiki (!) that 
works in Debian as well:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo

I would use WPA if I were you, WEP is broken and easily cracked.  Hope this 
helps,

Ananda



Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:02:14 +0200
From: =?utf-8?q?Adri=C3=A1n_Ribao_Mart=C3=ADnez?= <aribao@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Kolab in debian etch
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Hello, I have a server running under Debian etch. I need to install kolab, but 
I can't because:
apt-get install kolabd
->kolabd: Depends: kolab-resource-handlers but it is not going to be installed
apt-get install kolab-resource-handlers
->kolab-resource-handlers: Depends: libapache2-mod-php4 but it is not going to 
be installed
apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 
->The following packages will be REMOVED:
  horde3 imp4 kronolith2 libapache2-mod-php5 mnemo2 nag2 php5 turba2

So I can't use horde and Kolab!
Is there any way of doing it? Or it's a developers job?

Thank you!



Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:03:01 -0800
From: Ken Irving <fnkci@uaf.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Using Debian Package Manager
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On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:49:43AM -0800, Ken Irving wrote:

> > russ421@aol.com:
> > 
> > > I wanted to install a motherboard monitor.  I found one in the list, xmbmon,
> > > and chose to install it.  It said installation complete.  However, I have no
> > > idea how to find it and run it.  It's not showing up in the applications list
> > > anywhere.
> 
> You can see the contents of a package by:
> 
>     $ dpkg -L package-name
> 
> I often do this and grep or look for files in bin/, etc/, man/, etc. 
> directories to get a "jump-start" on what a package contains.  All packages
> should put a directory under /usr/share/bin/ containing README files, changelogs,


oops...                        /usr/share/doc/


> sometimes examples and other documentation.


-- 
Ken Irving, fnkci@uaf.edu



Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:18:39 -0400
From: Orestes leal <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: NeroLinux
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Hi Folks!

Recently i've installed NeroLinux to taste the linux version, at that moment
I didn't get the key, passed a few days when I execute NeroLinux this show me
a alert box that "this program has expired", so I delete the $HOME/.nero folder,
reinstalled nero but this won't work, I couldn' imagine WHERE nerolinux store this
kind of information to detect the amount of time used and then show this message and exit, any help?

NOTE: yeah, I know, it's privative.
Regards,
Orestes.
-- 
Orestes <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu>


Do you need more help?X

Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:58:45 -0400
From: Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: size and position of iceweasel window
Message-Id: <200706252058.QAA22932@syrano.acb.uc.edu>

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:13:55, I wrote


> Is there a way to make the iceweasel window consistently pop up at the same
> position every time?


On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:18:09 +0100, Liam O'Toole replied:


> That's been a bug in firefox/iceweasel for as long as I can remember.


And on Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:23:38 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West suggested:


> have you tried
>
> Firefox-bin.geometry:...


I added this to .Xresources:
  Firefox-bin.geometry: 800x977+0+0

and it was ignored.  As judged by ls -lu, the file isn't accessed when I
bring up a firefox window.  I also shut down X, logged off, logged in, and
started X.  That didn't fix it either.

I guess if this is the most annoying problem I have I won't complain.
Thanks for the suggestions.



Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:29:19 -0600
From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to exclude a package
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Magnus Pedersen wrote:

> Chuck Payne wrote:
> >Ok, what is happen is cpanel doesn't care that postfix is install, it 
> >replaces every time with exim every time it does it own update. I was 
> >hoping that there was a way to stop cpanel from replacing postfix by 
> >editing one of the apt conf files. That what going on guys. I am not 
> >doing the install. It's cpanel.
>
> That dosn't make sense, cpanel dosn't depend on any mta, not exim, not 
> postfix.


It probably is through the chain of dependencies somehow pecular to
the original poster's installation.


> http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/secpanel


But that is secpanel not cpanel.  Try this one instead.

  http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/x11/cpanel

I just tried a test installation of cpanel on my oldstable Sarge
machine (cpanel is only available in Sarge) and I did not see it
wanting to removing my installed postfix.  Therefore I can't recreate
the problem.

  Inst rxvt-ml (1:2.6.4-6.2 Debian AMD64 archive:3.1r6/oldstable)
  Inst libtabe2 (0.2.5+cvs20030523-1 Debian AMD64 archive:3.1r6/oldstable)
  Inst xcin (2.5.2.99.pre2+cvs20030224-1 Debian AMD64 archive:3.1r6/oldstable)
  Inst xfonts-intl-chinese (1.2.1-3 Debian AMD64 archive:3.1r6/oldstable)
  Inst cpanel (0.4.0-1 Debian AMD64 archive:3.1r6/oldstable)
  Conf rxvt-ml (1:2.6.4-6.2 Debian AMD64 archive:3.1r6/oldstable)
  Conf libtabe2 (0.2.5+cvs20030523-1 Debian AMD64 archive:3.1r6/oldstable)
  Conf xcin (2.5.2.99.pre2+cvs20030224-1 Debian AMD64 archive:3.1r6/oldstable)
  Conf xfonts-intl-chinese (1.2.1-3 Debian AMD64 archive:3.1r6/oldstable)
  Conf cpanel (0.4.0-1 Debian AMD64 archive:3.1r6/oldstable)

Looks okay to me.

Chuck, please post the result of the following command.

  apt-get install -s cpanel

Bob



Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:36:07 -0600
From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)
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Hal Vaughan wrote:

> 1) Is there a way to tell my NVidia card or xorg.conf to recognize the 
> widescreen as my first screen?


See the nvidia driver document:

  /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz
 
        Option "TwinViewOrientation" "string"
                Controls the relationship between the two display devices
                when using TwinView.  Takes one of the following values:
                "RightOf" "LeftOf" "Above" "Below" "Clone".  Please see
                APPENDIX I for details. Default: string is NULL.


> 2) Is there anything I can do to get an LCD monitor to work with a 
> non-standard resolution like 1312x1050?


Not to my knowledge.

Bob



Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:46:50 -0400
From: Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)
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On Monday 25 June 2007, Bob Proulx wrote:

> Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > 1) Is there a way to tell my NVidia card or xorg.conf to recognize
> > the widescreen as my first screen?
>
> See the nvidia driver document:
>
>   /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz
>
>         Option "TwinViewOrientation" "string"
>                 Controls the relationship between the two display
> devices when using TwinView.  Takes one of the following values:
> "RightOf" "LeftOf" "Above" "Below" "Clone".  Please see APPENDIX I
> for details. Default: string is NULL.


That doesn't effect it.  It changes the position, but even when the 
monitors were swapped (as in left for right), it didn't change the 
display numbers.

I don't mean first as in leftmost, I mean as in the display number, 
since it seems certain things always come up on monitor #1.

Thanks anyway, though.

Hal



Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:49:20 -0600
From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: RTF - proprietary or open?
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Mike McCarty wrote:

> They why was there a big flap when Unisys restricted use of GIF?


Unisys held a patent covering LZW compression.  Unisys did not create
the GIF format.  The GIF format was created by CompuServe.  Neither
did Unisys write the 'compress' program.  But both implemented an
algorithm considered to be an implementation of lzw compression and
therefore both were blocked by the Unisys patent until it expired.
Neither GIF nor compress authors were aware of the patent when they
created their implementations.

AFAICT the last lzw patent has expired.  At this time there is no
restriction on using either gif or compress however IANAL.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compress
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIF

Bob



Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:16:47 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)
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On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 05:46:50PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:

> On Monday 25 June 2007, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > > 1) Is there a way to tell my NVidia card or xorg.conf to recognize
> > > the widescreen as my first screen?
> >
> > See the nvidia driver document:
> >
> >   /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz
> >
> >         Option "TwinViewOrientation" "string"
> >                 Controls the relationship between the two display
> > devices when using TwinView.  Takes one of the following values:
> > "RightOf" "LeftOf" "Above" "Below" "Clone".  Please see APPENDIX I
> > for details. Default: string is NULL.
>=20
> That doesn't effect it.  It changes the position, but even when the=20
> monitors were swapped (as in left for right), it didn't change the=20
> display numbers.
>=20
> I don't mean first as in leftmost, I mean as in the display number,=20
> since it seems certain things always come up on monitor #1.


just out of curiousity, which monitor is the live one when the machine
boots?

also, doesn't mouse position affect this? It certainly does in my
dual-head rig. Whichever screen had the mouse gets the window except
for some odd things (xfce config windows in particular like to show up
in the left monitor no matter what, but that could be an artifact of
xinerama, I suppose). The xscreensaver unlock dialog is always
interesting...

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:07:29 +0100
From: Chris Lale <chrislale@untrammelled.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: QEMU Package faster
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Mike McCarty wrote:

> This question is really Really REALLY off topic!
> 
> I administer my girl friend's Debian machine for her, but do
> not run Debian myself. I installed QEMU on my machine (Fedora
> Core) from source, and installed the Debian release on hers.
> She's pretty happy now running some stuff. But I noticed that
> on her machine, QEMU does not eat lots of CPU, while on my
> machine, it eats the machine. I've copied the exact raw image
> disc from her machine to mine, but QEMU eats my CPU.
> 
> I wonder what changes the Debian release team made to QEMU
> to make it run nicer. Does anyone know?


1. QEMU is slow.

2. If you install kqemu, QEMU will run faster. Make sure to "modprobe kqemu
major=0" first. QEMU will use kqemu automatically if it is installed. Run QEMU
from a terminal window and you will get a message if it is unable to find kqemu.

3. If you run QEMU with the "-kernel-kqemu" option it will run even faster.
Unfortunately, due to a bug [1] in the Debian qemu packages, kqemu does not work
with stock Debian qemu packages. In order to use kqemu, you have to either build
your own packages of qemu out of the upstream sources ("not" the Debian
sources), or use the precompiled binaries offered by upstream on qemu.org.
Alternatively, install Daniel Baumann's deb package [2] instead of the official
QEMU package.

I believe that kqemu reduces processor load. This may be the reason for your
different experience.

So... Not off-topic after all. :)

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=402289
[2] http://archive.daniel-baumann.ch/debian/packages-other/qemu/

-- 
Chris.



Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:29:13 -0300
From: Stephen Cormier <s.cormier@gmx.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)
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On June 25, 2007 05:50:24 am Hal Vaughan wrote:

> I have an NVidia GEforce 6800 with two monitors attached.  One is a
> widescreen, hooked up with a DVI cable, at 1680x1050, and the other is
> hooked up with a VGA cable and set at 1280x1024.  They are working, but
> there are two issues I'd like to resolve.
>
> According to KDE, the CRT is #1 and the DVI is #2 (or 0 and 1 in
> xorg.conf).  I've swapped the connections on the card and tried to
> specify the monitors differently in the MetaMode option in xorg.conf,
> but it makes no difference.  I've seen a few issues with this.  For
> instance, when I'm in Konqueror and click on a folder of bookmarks, the
> drop down menu from that always appears on display 0, which is the
> older monitor.  I can understand there are some glitches and if I'm
> going to deal with them, I'd rather have the widescreen, my main
> monitor, recognized as the first screen.


The nvidia driver always seems to want to make the CRT primary monitor unle=
ss=20
you use the UseDisplayDevice option as in my first monitor section in my=20
xorg.conf I show below. When I had dual CRT the monitor connected to the po=
rt=20
nearest the motherboard was always primary but that is not the case with=20
CRT/DPF connected to the card.


> The other issue is one I don't think there's a resolution for.  Using a
> vertical resolution of 1050 on the widescreen and 1024 for the vertical
> resolution of 1024 for the "regular" monitor leaves a deadspace of 26
> pixels on the regular monitor.  I know I can pan on that, but seeing
> anything on that screen move up and down as I move the cursor is very
> distracting.  Ideally, I'd like to set the resolution on that monitor
> at 1312x1050 instead of 1280x1024.  I've tried it and the monitor
> doesn't display a thing.


I think this is a twinview problem with the dead space when I use as I alwa=
ys=20
have the two separate X screens I get my native 1680x1050 on the DFP and=20
whatever resolution I want on the CRT no dead space you might want to give=
=20
this a try instead of twinview. Now there are a couple of annoyances like n=
ot=20
being able to move programs between the screens but I can live with that an=
d=20
one that just developed when I connected the DFP that I have to figure out=
=20
where the taskbar on the CRT wants to be at the 1050 postion when I am=20
running at 1600x1200 then when at the 1280x960 it disappears under the bott=
om=20
of the monitor and I have to raise the taskbar on the DFP for it to come up=
=20
on the CRT so I can use it never used to do that with dual CRT different=20
resolutions it was always at the bottom of both screens no matter the=20
resolutions on either.


# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
        FontPath        "/usr/local/share/fonts/truetype"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
        FontPath        "/var/lib/deforma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load    "bitmap"
        Load    "dbe"
        Load    "ddc"
        Load    "extmod"
        Load    "freetype"
        Load    "glx"
        Load    "int10"
        Load    "record"
        Load    "type1"
        Load    "vbe"
        Load    "xtrap"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Keyboard0"
        Driver          "kbd"
        Option          "CoreKeyboard"
        Option          "XkbRules"      "xorg"
        Option          "XkbModel"      "pc104"
        Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"
EndSection

#Logitech LX7 Cordless Optical
Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Mouse0"
        Driver          "evdev"
        Option          "CorePointer"
        Option          "Name"                  "Logitech USB RECEIVER"
        Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "true"
        Option          "Resolution"            "1200"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "nvidia"
        Option      "NoLogo" "on"
        Option      "NvAgp"  "3"
        Option      "RenderAccel" "true"
        Option      "BackingStore" "On"
        Option      "Coolbits"    "1"
        Option      "IgnoreDisplayDevices"  "TV"
        Screen       0
        VendorName  "EVGA"
        BoardName   "e-Geforce 7900 GS KO"
        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Card1"
        Driver      "nvidia"
        Option      "NoLogo" "on"
        Option      "NvAgp"  "3"
        Option      "RenderAccel" "true"
        Option      "BackingStore" "On"
        Option      "DPI" "100x100"
        Option      "Coolbits"    "1"
        Screen      1
        Option      "IgnoreDisplayDevices"  "TV"
        VendorName  "EVGA"
        BoardName   "e-Geforce 7900 GS KO"
        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

# Dell 2007WFP
Section "Monitor"
       DisplaySize      431   272     # mm
       Identifier   "Monitor0"
       VendorName   "Dell"
       ModelName    "2007WFP"
       HorizSync    30-81
       VertRefresh  56-76
       Option       "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP-0"
       Option       "AllowDDCCI" "on"
       Option       "DPMS" "true"
       Option       "BackingStore" "On"
EndSection

# Philips 201B4
Section "Monitor"
       DisplaySize      406   305     # mm
       Identifier  "Monitor1"
       VendorName  "Philips"
       ModelName   "201B4"
       HorizSync    30-115 # DDC-probed
       VertRefresh  50-160 # DDC-probed
       Option      "UseDisplayDevice" "CRT-1"
       Option      "DPMS"  "true"
       Option      "BackingStore" "On"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        DefaultDepth  24
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
                Modes     "1680x1050"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen1"
        Device     "Card1"
        Monitor    "Monitor1"
        DefaultDepth 24
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
                Modes     "1600x1200" "1280x960"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier      "DualHead"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
        Screen      1  "Screen1" LeftOf "Screen0"
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection



> Thanks for any help!
>
> Hal


Stephen

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Can we help you?X

Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:33:35 -0400
From: Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)
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On Monday 25 June 2007, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 05:46:50PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > On Monday 25 June 2007, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > > > 1) Is there a way to tell my NVidia card or xorg.conf to
> > > > recognize the widescreen as my first screen?
> > >
> > > See the nvidia driver document:
> > >
> > >   /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz
> > >
> > >         Option "TwinViewOrientation" "string"
> > >                 Controls the relationship between the two display
> > > devices when using TwinView.  Takes one of the following values:
> > > "RightOf" "LeftOf" "Above" "Below" "Clone".  Please see APPENDIX
> > > I for details. Default: string is NULL.
> >
> > That doesn't effect it.  It changes the position, but even when the
> > monitors were swapped (as in left for right), it didn't change the
> > display numbers.
> >
> > I don't mean first as in leftmost, I mean as in the display number,
> > since it seems certain things always come up on monitor #1.
>
> just out of curiousity, which monitor is the live one when the
> machine boots?


Both.  When KDE is loading, the wallpaper comes up on the widescreen and 
the loading screen comes up on the 3x4 monitor.


> also, doesn't mouse position affect this? 


Not at all.


> It certainly does in my 
> dual-head rig. Whichever screen had the mouse gets the window except
> for some odd things (xfce config windows in particular like to show
> up in the left monitor no matter what, but that could be an artifact
> of xinerama, I suppose). The xscreensaver unlock dialog is always
> interesting...


I have my panel on only the widescreen, so most of the time I open a 
window, it's from a menu or a program already on the widescreen and 
they tend to open up there, but some dialog boxes come up on the other 
one.

One bit of interesting trivia.  When I first set it up, the screensaver 
showed up on the widescreen with the other going blank.  Now it covers 
both screens, but the center is not far from the left side of the 
widescreen.  I switch screensavers and now any of the ones that make it 
look like you're racing through a tube or anything like that don't work 
visually because the path you're supposedly following is cut up between 
the monitors.

Hal

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