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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1850
Today's Topics:
Re: Advise and direction required: N [ "Nick Adie" ]
Re: Waking up server during boot pre [ Malte Forkel ]
looking for a backup package [ Miles Fidelman ]
Re: Using Debian Package Manager [ Marc Shapiro ]
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:04:15 +0100
From: "Nick Adie" <nick.adie@gmail.com>
To: "Kevin Mark" <kevin.mark@verizon.net>,
debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Advise and direction required: Network File Server Access
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Kevin
Thanks, just got a little muddled and needed the fog clearing,
Regards
Nick
On 6/26/07, Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:45:18AM +0100, Nick Adie wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a Network File Server (Netgear NSLU2) which I would like to
> access from
> > my Debian Webserver, in order to store backups created via
> 'backup-manager'.
> >
> > I have read-up on samba and sbmclient and am totally confused as to
> which one
> > to install.
> >
> > Regards
> > Nick
> Like any good server-client combo, you install the server portion on the
> server and the client portion on the client. So, the nslug gets 'samba'
> and the webserver gets smbclient or an entry in fstab.
> This[0] seems to explain it.
>
> [0]
> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/configure-a-system-to-automount-a-samba-share-with-etcfstab/
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Kevin
Thanks, just got a little muddled and needed the fog clearing,
Regards
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:57:51 +0200
From: Malte Forkel <malte.forkel@berlin.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Waking up server during boot prevents NFS mounts after upgrade
to etch
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Bob Proulx schrieb:
> This is probably related:
>
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-sysvinit-commits/2006-November/000923.html
>
I agree. Unfortenately, ASYNCMOUNTNFS=no does not give me quite "the old
init.d/mountnfs.sh behaviour" as advertised in the changelog.
>>> Using sync versus async is completely different and unrelated. That
>>> has to do with the protocol used after the clients have mounted.
>> I guess you are talking about something other than the value of
>> ASYNCMOUNTNFS, which is what I meant? Sorry, I probably used the wrong
>> terms.
>
> I thought you were talking about the sync/async option. See this
> reference for more information.
>
> http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s05.html#sync_versus_async
>
Now I got it. So sync/async is a server export option while
ASYNCMOUNTNFS is a client init option.
>> I'm not quite sure whether to file a big report. In the end its my
>> initscript that causes the problem. On the other hand, without waking up
>> server there wouldn't be any mounts at all :-)
>
> I think this would be covered by the 'initscripts' package. You may
> want to look to see if this is already reported in the BTS.
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=initscripts;dist=unstable
>
I guess, I'll file a bug report for initscripts. They seem to have a
couple of problems on their hands already at the moment.
BTW: Nice hints on your website, Bob. I now have a .hushlogin :-) And
thanks again for your help.
Malte
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:08:27 -0500
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how hot is my xeon?
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michael wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 11:28 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> michael wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 16:36 +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:
>>>>> I've tried unsuccessfully to monitor my dual Xeon box but lm-sensors
>>>>> doesn't seem to detect anything.
>>>> Do u have the i2c kernel modules?
>>>>
>>>> Pol
>>>>
>>>>
>>> michael@ratty:~/Fortran$ sudo lsmod|grep -i i2c
>>> i2c_dev 8548 0
>>> i2c_i801 7468 0
>>> i2c_core 19680 3 i2c_dev,nvidia,i2c_i801
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Do you have lm-sensors installed?
>> What does the 'sensors' command show?
>>
>
> Installed lm-sensors, and then:
> michael@ratty:~$ sensors
> No sensors found!
> Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
> Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.
>
>
> Script started on Mon 25 Jun 2007 14:55:30 BST
> ]0;michael@ratty: /home/michael
> michael@ratty:~$ sudo sensors-detect
<snip>
> Script done on Mon 25 Jun 2007 14:56:13 BST
>
>
>
Did you add i2c-i801 to /etc/modules?
Hugo
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:17:00 -0500
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Virtual Machines/Emulators
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Mike McCarty wrote:
> I recently developed a desire to run some emulators under Linux,
> and consequently have run some of them. Here are my opinions of them,
> based on install, ease of use, and speed of emulation.
>
> The emulators I tried are DOSEMU + Freedos, BOCHS + MSDOS 6.22, and
> QEMU + MSDOS 6.22. I found that each had advantages and disadvantages.
> I also ran MSDOS 6.0 natively.
>
> Two machines were used. One is an AMD 586 with 16MB of RAM and a
> 160 MHz processor. Another is a Presario with a 2.7 GHz Celeron.
> The AMD was used only for running MSDOS 6.0 natively. The Celeron
> was used to run the emulators with Linux, and also to do some
> native MSDOS 6.0.
>
> install share speed CPU hardware soft events
> DOSEMU easy easy fast low Intel only not all no
> BOCHS hard hard v.slow high Intel only all yes
> QEMU hard hard slow high multiple all no
>
> install: ease of installation
> share: ease of sharing files between emulation and Linux
> speed: speed of emulation
> CPU: how much CPU does the emulation burn
> hardware: emulates other than Intel hardware
> soft: runs all software
> events: supports emulating hardware events
>
> QEMU runs something like 5x to 10x as fast as BOCHS. DOSEMU runs
> 40x to 50x as fast as QEMU.
>
> BOCHS allows one to emulate various hard drives down to the
> level of CHS.
>
Did you run kqemu with qemu?
Hugo
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:45:56 +0200
From: Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: RTF - proprietary or open?
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Mike McCarty wrote:
> Andrew J. Barr wrote:
>> Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> SQL is also theirs...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Whatever gave you that idea? IBM created SQL before Microsoft
>>>> existed! It has been an ISO standard since 1987.
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL>
>>>
>>> You need to learn some history. MicroSoft predates 1987 by quite
>>> a bit.
>>
>>
>> Um, if memory serves me, IBM created SQL in the '60s.
>
> But that wasn't his point. I don't know when SQL was created,
> and wasn't making that claim. However, his claim seemed to
> be that MicroSoft doesn't predate 1987, which is absurd.
No. He said that IBM created SQL before MS existed and that it became an
ISO standard in 1987 (after the foundation of MS and after SQL was
created, obviously).
Johannes
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:24:18 +0200
From: Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Purge leaves some files
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Torok Balint wrote:
> Helo!
>
> Thank you everyone for the help I received.
>
> I have tried to install/purge the same applications with aptitude on
> another computer and all went well. I conclude that the problem came
> into existance becouse apt-get did not purge the package dependencies
> along with the original package. Apt-get tried to purge only the
> "original" package, but left its dependencies intact. Now the problem
> is there, how can I correct it? How can I delete the leftover files?
> I should determine somehow what where the demendencies, and purge
> them too with apt-get? Would this delete the leftover files to?
Yes. As someone mentioned earlier, take an arbitrary file 'left over' in
that directory and find the package for that file:
dpkg -S filename
then purge that package by aptitude purge
repeat until the directory disappears.
HTH,
Johannes
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:31:52 +0200
From: Johannes Wiedersich <johannes@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard
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Manon Metten wrote:
> Please sign the petition here: http://www.noooxml.org/petition.
> (Cookies have to be enabled for this site.)
JavaScript has to be enabled for wikidot.com as well.
Johannes
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:35:00 +0200
From: Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uhlar@fantomas.sk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Solution for avoid to capture password between Browser - Squid
Message-ID: <20070626123500.GA2128@fantomas.sk>
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On 25.06.07 10:35, Javier Enrique Ti=E1 Mar=EDn wrote:
> I'm looking alternative a VPN and IPSec for avoid to capture the passwo=
rd=20
> between Browser (IE, iceweasel) and Squid,
connecting to squid via ssl probably. squid-2.6 and 3.0beta support SSL f=
rom
client's side. That will encrypt all your communication with squid.
> I read [1], it will be the idea, somebody post a example, howto, etc an=
d
> if use a LDAP backend much better.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:33:26 +0100
From: Steve Kemp <skx@debian.org>
To: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: looking for a backup package
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On Tue Jun 26, 2007 at 09:27:25 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> I run a couple of Debian servers running in a computer center. I'd like =
to set=20
> something up to allow me to back up my home machines to those servers - y=
ou=20
> know, something like mozy or jungledisk but using my own server.
>=20
> Has anybody come across a remote backup package that's as easy to use as =
this=20
> new crop of hosted services?
I guess it all depends upon what you're used to. But if you install
the rsnapshot program, and setup SSH key-based auth then it is very
simple to get working:
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/217
Steve
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:27:25 -0400
From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: looking for a backup package
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Hi Folks,
I run a couple of Debian servers running in a computer center. I'd like
to set something up to allow me to back up my home machines to those
servers - you know, something like mozy or jungledisk but using my own
server.
Has anybody come across a remote backup package that's as easy to use as
this new crop of hosted services? (Seems like things like Amanda are
pretty difficult to set up, for example).
Thanks much,
Miles
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:58:23 +0100
From: "Karl E. Jorgensen" <karl@jorgensen.org.uk>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: looking for a backup package
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On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:27:25AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Hi Folks,
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> Has anybody come across a remote backup package that's as easy to use as=
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> pretty difficult to set up, for example).
Although you think it's difficult to set up, I'd still recommend amanda.=20
Even if it is a difficult setup (config file, tape labelling, clients=20
software on clients) it's definitely workable. And after than you're=20
only stuck with changing tapes...
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:38:14 -0400
From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: looking for a backup package
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Miles Fidelman wrote:
> I run a couple of Debian servers running in a computer center. I'd
> like to set something up to allow me to back up my home machines to
> those servers - you know, something like mozy or jungledisk but using
> my own server.
>
> Has anybody come across a remote backup package that's as easy to use
> as this new crop of hosted services? (Seems like things like Amanda
> are pretty difficult to set up, for example).
I guess I should add that the machines I want to back up are a mixed
collection of Linux, Windows, and Mac - so I'm looking for a solution
that can backup/restore Mac files in all their gory details.
Miles
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:46:06 -0700
From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org>
To: Torok Balint <toba12@freemail.hu>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Purge leaves some files
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On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:46:58AM +0200, Torok Balint <toba12@freemail.hu> was heard to say:
> Thank you everyone for the help I received.
>
> I have tried to install/purge the same applications with
> aptitude on another computer and all went well. I conclude
> that the problem came into existance becouse apt-get did not
> purge the package dependencies along with the original
> package. Apt-get tried to purge only the "original" package,
> but left its dependencies intact.
Actually, aptitude won't purge the dependencies unless you pass
the command-line argument --purge-unused. So your problem is just
some packages that didn't get removed, not configuration files
left behind.
> Now the problem is there, how can I correct it? How can I
> delete the leftover files? I should determine somehow what
> where the demendencies, and purge them too with apt-get?
> Would this delete the leftover files to?
Easiest way to get rid of the leftover files is to run 'dpkg -S' on
them and find out which package they belong to, then purge those
packages. That doesn't guarantee you've got all the dependencies, though.
Daniel
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:48:50 +0200
From: "Martin Marcher" <martin.marcher@gmail.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: looking for a backup package
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never used it but bacula can do all three (with native clients afaik
for every OS)
personally i stick with amanda windows hosts are backed up thru a
mounted CIFS share
On 6/26/07, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> wrote:
> Miles Fidelman wrote:
> > I run a couple of Debian servers running in a computer center. I'd
> > like to set something up to allow me to back up my home machines to
> > those servers - you know, something like mozy or jungledisk but using
> > my own server.
> >
> > Has anybody come across a remote backup package that's as easy to use
> > as this new crop of hosted services? (Seems like things like Amanda
> > are pretty difficult to set up, for example).
> I guess I should add that the machines I want to back up are a mixed
> collection of Linux, Windows, and Mac - so I'm looking for a solution
> that can backup/restore Mac files in all their gory details.
>
> Miles
>
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:48:30 +0300
From: David Baron <d_baron@012.net.il>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: QEMU Package faster
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On Tuesday 26 June 2007, debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org wrote:
> 2. If you install kqemu, QEMU will run faster. Make sure to "modprobe kqemu
> major=0" first. QEMU will use kqemu automatically if it is installed. Run
> QEMU from a terminal window and you will get a message if it is unable to
> find kqemu.
I need major=250. The /dev/kqemu node has this.
Time to get this consistant, straight in Debian kqemu package.
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:03:04 -0700
From: Marc Shapiro <mshapiro_42@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Using Debian Package Manager
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BartlebyScrivener wrote:
> On Jun 25, 11:00 am, russ...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> I wanted to install a motherboard monitor.? I found one in the list, xmbmon, and chose to install it.? It said installation complete.? However, I have no idea how to find it and run it.? It's not showing up in the applications list anywhere.
>>
>
> type
>
> whereis xmbmon
>
> at the commandline
>
> rd
>
Or, just type xmbmon & to start it up.
'xmbmon -h' displays a help screen with options, and 'man xmbmon'
displays the man page.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:09:43 -0700
From: Marc Shapiro <mshapiro_42@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Sound card not working
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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:01:30AM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
>
>> Mike McCarty wrote:
>>
>> [that the sound card isn't working]
>>
>> Ok, after much fooling around, I find that ESD is running, and
>> has the DSP open. So, I killed it,
>>
>
> it should be taken out and shot, IMHO.
>
> we see so many problems related to esd not playing nicely with others.
Yes, that is what I did with artsd from KDE. I made sure that I purged
ALL of KDE and GNOME. Then, when I switched from Sarge to Etch I did a
clean install (first time in 8 or 9 years) I made sure not to install
any DTE so as to make sure that there was no cruft lying around.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:44:08 -0400
From: Tom Grove <debian@voidmain.net>
To: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Virtual Machines/Emulators
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Mike McCarty wrote:
> I recently developed a desire to run some emulators under Linux,
> and consequently have run some of them. Here are my opinions of them,
> based on install, ease of use, and speed of emulation.
>
> The emulators I tried are DOSEMU + Freedos, BOCHS + MSDOS 6.22, and
> QEMU + MSDOS 6.22. I found that each had advantages and disadvantages.
> I also ran MSDOS 6.0 natively.
>
> Two machines were used. One is an AMD 586 with 16MB of RAM and a
> 160 MHz processor. Another is a Presario with a 2.7 GHz Celeron.
> The AMD was used only for running MSDOS 6.0 natively. The Celeron
> was used to run the emulators with Linux, and also to do some
> native MSDOS 6.0.
>
> install share speed CPU hardware soft events
> DOSEMU easy easy fast low Intel only not all no
> BOCHS hard hard v.slow high Intel only all yes
> QEMU hard hard slow high multiple all no
>
> install: ease of installation
> share: ease of sharing files between emulation and Linux
> speed: speed of emulation
> CPU: how much CPU does the emulation burn
> hardware: emulates other than Intel hardware
> soft: runs all software
> events: supports emulating hardware events
>
> QEMU runs something like 5x to 10x as fast as BOCHS. DOSEMU runs
> 40x to 50x as fast as QEMU.
>
> BOCHS allows one to emulate various hard drives down to the
> level of CHS.
>
> Mike
I would like to see how VirtualBox stands up against the others. It
seems to be the fastest emulator when it comes to Windows. Although
this is only one person's opinion and there is no "scientific" evidence
it just feels faster.
-Tom
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Received on Tue Jun 26 11:02:58 2007