debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #1851

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1851

Today's Topics:

  Re: IPW3945 With Etch                 [ Tom Grove  ]
  Re: stability problem; Asus M2N-MX m  [ Prismatic Plasma  ]
  Re: size and position of iceweasel w  [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  Re: stability problem; Asus M2N-MX m  [ Prismatic Plasma  ]
  Re: RTF - proprietary or open?        [ arijit sarkar  ]

  Re: size and position of iceweasel w [ Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwe ]   Re: Install which Linux? (or avoidin [ Gayle Fairless <perfess@msic.dia.mi ]

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:45:12 -0400
From: Tom Grove <debian@voidmain.net>
To: Ananda Samaddar <ananda.kumar.samaddar@googlemail.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: IPW3945 With Etch

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Ananda Samaddar wrote:
> On Monday 25 June 2007 19:14, Tom Grove wrote:
>
>> It seems as though I am able to install the modules via module-assistant
>> and I receive an eth1 with wireless properties. The problem is that no
>> matter what I set my AP to I can't connect to it. I typically just run
>> with WEP but regardless or whether or not I am using WEP/WPA/Nothing I
>> can not connect to the AP with this card. Any ideas or help is much
>> appreciated. Thanks.
>>
>> -Tom
>>
>
> Make sure the firmware-ipw3945 and ipw3945d packages are installed as well.
> If you use GNOME then install network-manager-gnome. This is the easiest way
> to connect and should work. There is a document on the Ubuntu wiki (!) that
> works in Debian as well:
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
>
> I would use WPA if I were you, WEP is broken and easily cracked. Hope this
> helps,
>
> Ananda
>
>
>

I was able to get it working but only after enabling SSID broadcasting on the AP. This is odd but it works. I wonder why this is?

-Tom

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:02:23 +0000
From: Prismatic Plasma <meltedrainbow@adelphia.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: stability problem; Asus M2N-MX mobo AMD 64; etch; is it hardware or software? Message-Id: <200706261602.23444.meltedrainbow@adelphia.net> Content-Type: text/plain;
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memtest86 tests 5 and 8 fail with consistency. They give several failures, all in the range 770-880 MB range (1 GB stick). The exact addresses change from pass to pass, but always remain in that range. The other tests reveal no problems.

At this point, it's definitely a hardware problem. Can I rule out a configuration problem? What are the chances of it being mobo or cpu rather than ram?

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 05:07:52 +0200
From: Mitja Podreka <mojdebian@gmail.com> To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Dual Boot With Win XP - Debian First?

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russ421@aol.com wrote:
> Thanks for the advice so far. So the only issue that will arise is
> the bootloader will appear to disappear? Once that is fixed,
> everything will be working correctly?

Yes. The only thing you have to worry is that you install Windows on the first partition of the first disc and that it doesn't install itself over the whole disc (I think that HomeEdition does this). I've done it many times and Debian was always there, when I fixed the mess left by Windows.
> I'm still new to a lot of this computer / linux stuff. Where is the
> bootloader anyways? What's the issue with simply going into bios and
> disabling the hard disk that windows sits on and setting the linux as
> primary drive? Would that still not let you boot into Linux?
I'm not an expert, but as far as I know BIOS is dealing with hardware ( in this case hard disc as a whole) and not with partitions on that disc, so BIOS won't help.

What windows does during the install is overwrite the MBR and thus deleting the reference to Linux bootloader. What you have to do is to overwrite the MBR again and insert the reference to Windows into GRUB configuration.

regards
Mitja

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:41:06 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:33:45AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:06:12 -0400
> Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu> wrote:
>=20
> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:58:45 -0400, I wrote:
> >=20
> > > I added this to .Xresources:
> > > Firefox-bin.geometry: 800x977+0+0
> > >
> > > and it was ignored. As judged by ls -lu, the file isn't accessed
> > > when I bring up a firefox window.
> >=20
> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:51:37 GMT, s. keeling replied:
> >=20
> > > Add "xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources" to ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc (or
> > > both), then restart X.
> >=20
> > Thanks. After that .Xresources was read during startx, but the
> > placement of the firefox window still seemed random, even if I
> > deleted localstore.rdf. I think firefox may just ignore the setting
> > in .Xresources.
> >=20
> >=20
>=20
> It does respect other settings in the X resource database, for example
> the DPI setting, Xft.dpi. But it seems it will not be told where to
> place a window :-(

I think it warrants some bug reports. It should *at least* respect its own "Mozilla Options" from iceweasel --help...

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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:05:15 -0500
From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Dual Boot With Win XP - Debian First?

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russ421@aol.com wrote:
> I want to dual boot windows XP and Debian.? I've seen the guides, but
> they all recommend that users have Windows XP installed first, and
> then install Debian.? This allows you to set it up with the default
> Debian installation to use GRUB / etc. and dual boot.?

Another possibility is to use the WinXP boot manager/loader to load GRUB. That's the way I do it. Works great.

Mike

-- 
p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}
Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN.
This message made from 100% recycled bits.
You have found the bank of Larn.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you.
I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:07:22 -0500 From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net> To: Debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Virtual Machines/Emulators Message-ID: <468139BA.5050403@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Grove wrote:
>
> I would like to see how VirtualBox stands up against the others. It
> seems to be the fastest emulator when it comes to Windows. Although
> this is only one person's opinion and there is no "scientific" evidence
> it just feels faster.
Post a URL. I have been running some benchmarks for CPU speed. I haven't checked out creating/deleting files. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:14:43 -0500 From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: QEMU Package faster Message-ID: <46813B73.8090504@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Lale wrote:
>
>
> 1. QEMU is slow.
Yes, and it's a CPU hog. But, it's faster than BOCHS.
> 2. If you install kqemu, QEMU will run faster. Make sure to "modprobe kqemu
> major=0" first. QEMU will use kqemu automatically if it is installed. Run QEMU
> from a terminal window and you will get a message if it is unable to find kqemu.
I haven't been able to build kqemu. It has include path problems. [snip]
> Alternatively, install Daniel Baumann's deb package [2] instead of the official
> QEMU package.
I'll look into that. Thanks.
> I believe that kqemu reduces processor load. This may be the reason for your
> different experience.
Nope. Apparently it was a brain fart.
> So... Not off-topic after all. :)
Well, actually off-topic. Most of my testing has been on a Fedora Core machine :-) Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:17:36 -0500 From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: NeroLinux Message-ID: <46813C20.1030403@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Atis wrote:
> On 6/25/07, Orestes leal <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Folks!
>>
>> Recently i've installed NeroLinux to taste the linux version, at that
>> moment
>> I didn't get the key, passed a few days when I execute NeroLinux this
>> show me
>> a alert box that "this program has expired", so I delete the
>> $HOME/.nero folder,
>> reinstalled nero but this won't work, I couldn' imagine WHERE
>> nerolinux store this
>> kind of information to detect the amount of time used and then show
>> this message and exit, any help?
>
>
> Did it required you to enter root's password? If yes, it could be
If a package required me to enter root's password into its installer, I'd kick it off my machine faster than sliding down a stompslick.
> written anywhere in system. If no, you could try to install it for
> another user. And check, is your /tmp/ empty after each reboot.
Another likely place is /var Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:25:42 +0300 From: David Baron <d_baron@012.net.il> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: RTF - proprietary or open? Message-id: <200706261925.42730.d_baron@012.net.il> Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline OK, OK. RTF is Microsoft's SQL is IBM's JavaScript is Netscape's (Jscript is Microsoft's knockoff, beware) HTML, CSS and their children are from W3C (Worldwide Web Consortium) XML? PostScript is Apple's (really a FORTH derivative, huh?) PDF is Adobe's. Word, XSL, etc. are from Microsoft. and ... Open Document Formats are from Sun Do not, I mean DO NOT ever use such formats because larger corporations are involved in them, created them, sometimes violate their own standards. Make everything completely original and thus maintain complete personal control. No one else will want to read the thing anyway :-)

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:10:49 +0000 From: Prismatic Plasma <meltedrainbow@adelphia.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: stability problem; Asus M2N-MX mobo AMD 64; etch; is it hardware or software? (apparently solved) Message-Id: <200706261810.49708.meltedrainbow@adelphia.net> Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tuesday 26 June 2007 16:02, Prismatic Plasma wrote:
> memtest86 tests 5 and 8 fail with consistency. They give several failures,
> all in the range 770-880 MB range (1 GB stick). The exact addresses change
> from pass to pass, but always remain in that range. The other tests reveal
> no problems.
>
> At this point, it's definitely a hardware problem. Can I rule out a
> configuration problem? What are the chances of it being mobo or cpu rather
> than ram?
Using the faster memory configuration (CS4-4-4-12), upped voltage to 2.0 V, and put memory in second slot seems to have solved the problem. memtest86 finds no errors, and I was able to compile some large programs without any trouble. All 3 of these changes seem to be required. The first memory slot on the mobo appears to be bad. Thanks all.

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:12:41 +0000 From: Jim Seymour <jim@wingbarscafe.com> To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Apache 2.2 rewrite rule help needed Message-Id: <1182877961.9287.28.camel@swift.wingbarscafe.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 09:25 +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> In article <20070624095129.GB899@hummingbird.wingbarscafe.com>,
> Jim Seymour <jim@wingbarscafe.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Running Apache 2.2 on Debian testing and having no luck getting a
> > rewrite rule to work. Straight out of the rewrite guide I am trying the
> > following to force the domain name to always be displayed as
> > www.domain.com even when it is accessed as domain.com.
> >
> > RewriteEngine on
> > RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.domain\.com [NC]
> > RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^$
> > RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://www.domain.com/$1 [L,R]
> >
> > I have tried many variations of this rule in both the apache virtual
> > configuration as well as an .htaccess file. I have verified via a dump
> > of the modules loaded that the rewrite module is loaded. The Options
> > FollowSymLinks is set and AllowOverride is set to FileInfo. I know the
> > .htaccess file is being read because I can put trash in it and it will
> > result in an Internal Server Error. Once the garbage is removed I can
> > load the web page without error. The rewrite rule never has an effect
> > and never gives any errors. Ideas?
>
> I am not sure if this helps as I do the opposite, i.e. change all
> www.domain.com requests to domain.com. I do it two ways. On my own
> Apache server I do it this way:
>
> <VirtualHost *>
> DocumentRoot /srv/www/htdocs/domain.com
> ServerName domain.com
> </VirtualHost>
>
> <VirtualHost *>
> DocumentRoot /srv/www/htdocs/domain.com
> ServerName www.domain.com
> Redirect / http://domain.com/
> </VirtualHost>
>
> and on a paid for hosting account using Rewrite (in a .htaccess file)
> this also works, but, again, to do the opposite of what you want:
>
> RewriteEngine on
> rewritecond %{http_host} ^www\.domain\.com [nc]
> rewriterule ^(.*)$ http://domain.com/$1 [r=301,nc]
>
> --
> Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK.
> http://pippin.co.uk/
Hi Bob, Thanks. It would appear that in the apache suggested way [RewriteRule ^/(.*)], that the / after the ^ was the problem. It is now working just as expected. Thanks Again, Jim

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:03:28 +0530 From: arijit sarkar <arijit.2612@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: RTF - proprietary or open? Message-Id: <1182879208.5039.0.camel@arijit-linux> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-zTtPYRcyQ1GXfNdiu2O4" --=-zTtPYRcyQ1GXfNdiu2O4 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The perfect reply! On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 19:25 +0300, David Baron wrote:
> OK, OK.
>
> RTF is Microsoft's
> SQL is IBM's
> JavaScript is Netscape's (Jscript is Microsoft's knockoff, beware)
> HTML, CSS and their children are from W3C (Worldwide Web Consortium)
> XML?
> PostScript is Apple's (really a FORTH derivative, huh?)
> PDF is Adobe's.
>
> Word, XSL, etc. are from Microsoft.
> and ... Open Document Formats are from Sun
>
> Do not, I mean DO NOT ever use such formats because larger corporations are
> involved in them, created them, sometimes violate their own standards. Make
> everything completely original and thus maintain complete personal control.
> No one else will want to read the thing anyway :-)
>
>
-- ------------------------------- Arijit Sarkar Kolkata, India ------------------------------- --=-zTtPYRcyQ1GXfNdiu2O4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.14.1"> </HEAD> <BODY> The perfect reply!<BR> <BR> On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 19:25 +0300, David Baron wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> <FONT COLOR="#000000">OK, OK.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">RTF is Microsoft's</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">SQL is IBM's</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">JavaScript is Netscape's (Jscript is Microsoft's knockoff, beware)</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">HTML, CSS and their children are from W3C (Worldwide Web Consortium)</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">XML?</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">PostScript is Apple's (really a FORTH derivative, huh?)</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">PDF is Adobe's.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">Word, XSL, etc. are from Microsoft.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">and ... Open Document Formats are from Sun</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">Do not, I mean DO NOT ever use such formats because larger corporations are </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">involved in them, created them, sometimes violate their own standards. Make </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">everything completely original and thus maintain complete personal control. </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">No one else will want to read the thing anyway :-)</FONT> </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> <TABLE CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="0" WIDTH="100%"> <TR> <TD> <PRE> -- ------------------------------- Arijit Sarkar Kolkata, India ------------------------------- </PRE> </TD> </TR> </TABLE> </BODY> </HTML> --=-zTtPYRcyQ1GXfNdiu2O4--

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:31:29 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: size and position of iceweasel window Message-ID: <20070626183128.GB20688@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="98e8jtXdkpgskNou" Content-Disposition: inline --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:29:09PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:41:06 -0700
> Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
>=20
> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:33:45AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>=20
> [...]
>=20
> > > It does respect other settings in the X resource database, for
> > > example the DPI setting, Xft.dpi. But it seems it will not be told
> > > where to place a window :-(
> >=20
> > I think it warrants some bug reports. It should *at least* respect its
> > own "Mozilla Options" from iceweasel --help...
>=20
> Bug #267344 concerns this issue.
which refers upstream ultimately to: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D50201 which is from 2000! but there appears to be an environment variable to make it work: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D50201#c18 hth A --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGgVuAaIeIEqwil4YRAkNPAKDPXjZiGRwrVz4ufdJrW/1mwUGU3QCeLNmx V88WipR7EMy8S8i2+xC1uW4= =h2K9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --98e8jtXdkpgskNou--

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:29:09 +0100 From: Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: size and position of iceweasel window Message-ID: <20070626182909.65fb18e1@po> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:41:06 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:33:45AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
[...]
> > It does respect other settings in the X resource database, for
> > example the DPI setting, Xft.dpi. But it seems it will not be told
> > where to place a window :-(
>
> I think it warrants some bug reports. It should *at least* respect its
> own "Mozilla Options" from iceweasel --help...
Bug #267344 concerns this issue. -- Liam

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:00:22 +0200 From: mess-mate <mess-mate@wanadoo.fr> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: size and position of iceweasel window Message-ID: <20070626190022.GB11403@eric.orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote: | On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:29:09PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: | > On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:41:06 -0700 | > Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote: | > | > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:33:45AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: | > | > [...] | > | > > > It does respect other settings in the X resource database, for | > > > example the DPI setting, Xft.dpi. But it seems it will not be told | > > > where to place a window :-( | > > | > > I think it warrants some bug reports. It should *at least* respect its | > > own "Mozilla Options" from iceweasel --help... | > | > Bug #267344 concerns this issue. | | which refers upstream ultimately to: | | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50201 | | which is from 2000! but there appears to be an environment variable to | make it work: | | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50201#c18 | | hth | | | A Si je parle de windoooz, c'est pour que les amis utilisateur windooz pourraient communiquer avec les utilisateurs linux. mess-mate -- You will be audited by the Internal Revenue Service.

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:00:06 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: size and position of iceweasel window Message-ID: <20070626200006.GC20688@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V88s5gaDVPzZ0KCq" Content-Disposition: inline --V88s5gaDVPzZ0KCq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:00:22PM +0200, mess-mate wrote: <snip>
> Si je parle de windoooz, c'est pour que les amis utilisateur windooz
> pourraient communiquer avec les utilisateurs linux.
>=20
huh? my french is pretty rusty but it looks like you said If I talk about windows, its because friends use windows to communicate with linux users.=20 but that has nothing to do with our conversation so... are you just trolling? or just being funny? I'm not sure A --V88s5gaDVPzZ0KCq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGgXBGaIeIEqwil4YRAonRAKCYWmWbqIvyDE+/eFmg3G4TMCQo2gCg59n6 uuo0KINCNQr8xhZI0rT/PjI= =bfuS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --V88s5gaDVPzZ0KCq--

Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:52:51 -0500 From: Gayle Fairless <perfess@msic.dia.mil> To: debusr <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds) Message-ID: <46816083.2040005@msic.dia.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com> is reported to have said: I'll mention some other stuff for you to ponder. There, usually, is no need to reboot the system. When working on networking you can restart networking, after making changes to the interfaces file by doing as root /etc/init.d/networking restart. $ ifconfig (show what interfaces are up) The dhcp, in the interfaces file, is the command to get access to your AP. I have to assume that the netinstall includes the dhcp client. Wayne ================================= I gave up temporarily on network installation and downloaded the iso files for approximately 20 CDROM's. There was quite a few difficulties getting past system hangs and having to use the rescue mode. It seems that any install failure requires the user to go back to the partitioner and reformat the / volume. Even though the basic system has been installed, it seems that the installer cannot pick up where it failed. The installer also hung badly on selinix-policy-refpolicy-targeted file (I may have misspelled this). The first attempt that got to package selection had desktop system, laptop, and standard system. That was about 500 packages. That failed. Back to the partitioner, this time I only selected laptop system and standard system. That was less than a hundred packages so I got the basic system installed. Now I can boot the Thinkpad 390 into Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 R0 (etch). Unfortunately when I attempted to use aptitude to install some small packages such as bzip2, the aptitude program did not like the MD5SUM of the first CDROM. I am not too concerned about the error but would like to get around it or correct it so I can continue installation of the packages on an individual or custom basis. Can I read packages off the CDROM's and use apt-get or dpkg instead? Will an aptitude -f install work to get past the alleged error? Oh well, at least I have the basic system back. I also have mutt and vi already installed! End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #1851 ************************************************** Received on Tue Jun 26 17:27:29 2007