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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1856

Today's Topics: 

  Re: backports                         [ Chris Lale  ]
  Re: Problems using subcommander: No   [ Till Wimmer  ]
  Re: Migrate kernel 2.4 to 2.6         [ =?utf-8?B?QW5kcsOp?= Berger  ]
  Eaccelerator package, where?          [ Arnau  ]
  Re: Eaccelerator package, where?      [ Orestes leal  ]
  Re: Nameserver update                 [ Till Wimmer  ]
  Re: how to exclude the packges in di  [ Wayne Topa  ]
  Re: Nameserver update                 [ martin f krafft 

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:27:15 +0100


From: Chris Lale <chrislale@untrammelled.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: backports

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Florian Kulzer wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 08:54:05 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
>> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>> [...]
>>> An even better approach would be to download the Backports.org Archiv=


e


>>> Key manually and to check the signature before adding the new key to
>>> apt's keyring. (Installing the debian-backports-keyring package direc=
tly

>>> means that an unverified post-installation script has root on your
>>> computer, therefore you cannot really trust anything after that,
>>> including the keys on the Debian keyring.)
>>>
>>> P.S. The same goes for the debian-multimedia-keyring package.

Do you need help?X

>>>
>> Yes, Florian, you must be right! I wonder why they offer the keyring p=


ackage?

>=20


> The keyring package allows automatic installation of new signing keys,
> just like debian-archive-keyring for the normal Debian pool. This is
> safe - or at least as "safe" as your basic trust in Debian is - provide=

d

> that you perform the initial check. From the on, each new key can be
> verified (automatically) with the old key during a transition period an=

d

> the chain of trust remains intact. (I don't know how often they will
> issue a new key for the backports archive, though; the normal Debian
> archive keys get updated at least once a year.)

>=20


>> The instructions page does give instructions about how to install the =
key -

>> and no mention of the debian-backports-keyring package:
>>
>> 	... you can import backports.org archive=E2=80=99s key into apt:
>>
>> 	gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 16BA136C
>> 	gpg --export | apt-key add -
>>
>> 	or
>>
>> 	wget -O - 
http://backports.org/debian/archive.key | apt-key add -
>>
>> No mention of how to check it though. Can you check the sig before ins=


talling

>> the key?
>=20


> Yes, you can: Just run the "gpg ... --recv-keys ..." command as your
> normal user and the new key will be added (as untrusted) to your normal
> user's public keyring. Then you can perform the check:

>=20

> $ gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --check-sigs 16B=

A136C

>=20


> and make sure that Joerg Jaspert's signature (key 7E7B8AC9) is valid.
> After that you can feed the key to apt
>=20


> $ gpg -a --export 16BA136C | sudo apt-key add -
>=20


> and you are all set. If you do not want to use sudo then you can export
> the key to a file before you become root:
>=20


> $ gpg -a --export 16BA136C > backports-archive-key.txt
> # apt-key add backports-archive-key.txt
>=20


> If you have problems with the keyserver then you can use the wget
> command to add the key to your public keyring:
>=20


> $ wget -O - http://backports.org/debian/archive.key | gpg --import -
>=20


> Then you can perform the same check before you tell apt to trust the
> key. I would avoid running anything as root except for the apt-key
> command.


>=20



How to you check the output of "gpg --check-sigs"? I Googled a bit and it=
 seems


that an exclamation mark ("!") indicates a successful check. Is that true=
?


eg


$ gpg --check-sigs --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-backports-keyring=
.gpg



/usr/share/keyrings/debian-backports-keyring.gpg



pub   1024D/16BA136C 2005-08-21

uid                  Backports.org Archive Key 
sig!3        16BA136C 2005-08-21  Backports.org Archive Key

sig!3        16BA136C 2005-08-21  Backports.org Archive Key


<ftp-master@backports.org>


sub   2048g/5B82CECE 2005-08-21


sig!         16BA136C 2005-08-21  Backports.org Archive Key
<ftp-master@backports.org>



Do you need more help?X

I wanted to find a generic method of importing and checking keys for a nu=
mber of


unofficial deb sites. It is difficult to find the key ids on some of the
websites. One thing they all had in common was having a keyring package. =
I tried


backports.org, debian-multimedia.org and debian-unofficial.org. So, here =
is my


generic method:



  1.   Add the appropriate line to /etc/apt/sources.list.

  
  2.   Update with apt-get or aptitude.

  
  3.   Install the appropriate keyring package (eg debian-multimedia-keyring)=
. The
keyrings all end up in /etc/share/keyrings/${package-name}.gpg

  
  4.   Check the signatures IMMEDIATELY eg
$ gpg --check-sigs --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-multimedia-keyrin=
g.gpg

  
  5.   If the check fails,




a.purge the keyring package and check that the keyring subdirectory has b=
een


removed from /etc/share/keyrings/.



b. You can still install packages from the suspect repository, but there =
will be


a warning. To be safe, remove the repository line from /etc/apt/sources.l=
ist.



--=20


Chris.



Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:34:34 -0400


From: Orestes leal <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: The Perfect Linux gaming Box

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Hi Folks,



I want that some of the members of the group comments something
about hard core gaming boxes under Linux, what kind of configuration
I need to play *ALL* Titles and *ALL* forms of games, 3d games like
Doom3, etc in linux with a performance closely like win32 and DirectX.


Can we help you?X

NOTE: CPU, VGA, MEMORY, etc.



Best,


Orestes.


-- 
Orestes 


Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:42:11 -0400
From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue
Message-ID: <20070627164211.GA10666@buddy.mtntop.home>
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Wackojacko(wackojacko32@ntlworld.com) is reported to have said:

> Wayne Topa wrote:
> >P Kapat(kap4lin@gmail.com) is reported to have said:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I am running Debian unstable on an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and a
> >>MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo.
> >>
> >
> >When I asked the amd-64 list I was told that CPU is a K8, not a  K7.
> >
> >WT
> >
> That's correct but it uses a lot of the same features as the k7 with a 
> few extra so the k7 is the best fit on a 32 bit install.  There was a 
> -k8 kernel on i386 ( and it was reinstated for a while so may still be 
> available ) but, you can run into problems with compiling modules, for 
> example, as the compiler expects a 64-bit os and bombs out.


Ahh.  That I didn't know!  Thanks.  I should have my amd64 system
soon and will need that nugget.

WT

-- 
Never say "OOPS!" always say "Ah, Interesting!"
_______________________________________________________



Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:05:59 +0200
From: Till Wimmer <g4-lisz@tonarchiv.ch>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Problems using subcommander: No working files displayed
Message-ID: <468298F7.3000500@tonarchiv.ch>
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Hi Martin,

thanks a lot, now i can see my files!

But the behavior is a little bit strange. Maybe its a caching issue.
Without the 'All' option i couldn't see any files.
After checking the option, the files where there. Then i unchecked the option again, but the files remain... Well that's better 
than the other way round ;)

Bye,
Till

Martin Hauner wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > you wrote on debian-user@lists.debian.org
 >> today i tried to use "subcommander" for a subversion project. I'm very
 >> frustrated: After an hour i was still unable to see the content of a
 >> working copy folder.
 >>
 >> Somebody out there who can help me?
 >> [..]
 >> The right part in the subcommander window only shows a dot '.' and
 >> that's it. Double click didn't do anything. Non idea what to change in
 >> the project settings to make it work :(
 >>
 >> Any help would be much appreciated!
 >
 > It is working. In the default view subcommander displays the equivalent
 > information to "svn status" of your working copy.
 >
 > If nothing is changed in the working copy, there is nothing to show and
 > you only see then "." entry.
 >
 > If you change something in the wc and refresh the view in subcommander
 > you will see your changes.
 >
 > You can also switch to "all" (toolbar) to see all items, changed or not.
 >
 >



Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:14:29 +0200
From: =?utf-8?B?QW5kcsOp?= Berger <andre.berger@web.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Migrate kernel 2.4 to 2.6
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* Qnick (2007-06-27):

> I have a box ((Fujitsu-Siemens PRIMERGY RX300  S3) within Debian 4.0
> "Etch" and 2.4.31 kernel  .
> I very want upgrade it to kernel 2.6.21 but i don't know how do it.
> I installed kernel package 2.6.18  from Debian distribution but after
> reboot accured "kernel panic" (don't detect scsi megaraid).
> After I compiled new kernel. I installed necessary package: udev,
> yaird , initramfs-tools.


You also need module-init-tools

-Andr=C3=A9

--=20
May as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb!
Linux Kernel 2.6/PPC for Linkstation/KuroBox/HG/HS from http://hvkls.dynd=
ns.org



Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:09:49 -0400
From: Orestes leal <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Migrate kernel 2.4 to 2.6
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:14:29 +0200
Andr=E9 Berger <andre.berger@web.de> wrote:


> * Qnick (2007-06-27):
> > I have a box ((Fujitsu-Siemens PRIMERGY RX300  S3) within Debian 4.0
> > "Etch" and 2.4.31 kernel  .
> > I very want upgrade it to kernel 2.6.21 but i don't know how do it.
> > I installed kernel package 2.6.18  from Debian distribution but after
> > reboot accured "kernel panic" (don't detect scsi megaraid).
> > After I compiled new kernel. I installed necessary package: udev,
> > yaird , initramfs-tools.

>=20

> You also need module-init-tools

>=20

> -Andr=E9

>=20

> --=20
> May as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb!
> Linux Kernel 2.6/PPC for Linkstation/KuroBox/HG/HS from http://hvkls.dynd=

ns.org

All the stuff needed it's at $KERNELSOURCE/Documentation/CHANGES

Best,
Orestes.

--=20
Orestes <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu>



Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:44:02 +0530
From: Bhasker C V <bhasker@unixindia.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: how to exclude the packges in dist-upgrade
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Hi all,

 I tried on the apt-get manual. But could not get to my requirement.
 I have some of the packages in my deb box which i do not want to
upgrade/remove/uninstall during an apt-get dist-uprade. 
 How do i specify the exclude list ?

thanks
-- 
Bhasker C V
Registered Linux user: #306349 (counter.li.org)
The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed Linux.



Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:18:49 +0200
From: Arnau <arnaulist@andromeiberica.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Eaccelerator package, where?
Message-ID: <46829BF9.1000201@andromeiberica.com>
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Hi all!!

   Does anybody know where I can find a packaged version of 
eaccelerator? I tried to install it some weeks ago following the 
http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/eaccelerator.htm instruccions and it gave me 
a segmentation fault.


Cheers!!
-- 
Arnau


Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:27:22 -0400
From: Tod Detre <tdetre@pantek.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Migrate kernel 2.4 to 2.6
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Qnick wrote:

> I have a box ((Fujitsu-Siemens PRIMERGY RX300  S3) within Debian 4.0
> "Etch" and 2.4.31 kernel  .
> I very want upgrade it to kernel 2.6.21 but i don't know how do it.
> I installed kernel package 2.6.18  from Debian distribution but after
> reboot accured "kernel panic" (don't detect scsi megaraid).


At some point in the kernel development the megaraid module got renamed
from something like megaraid2 to megaraid(something like that). You may
have to force the new module to be included in the initrd. I did this by
adding megaraid and megaraid2 to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules.

Regards,
Tod Detre

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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:29:25 -0400
From: Orestes leal <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: arnaulist@andromeiberica.com
Subject: Re: Eaccelerator package, where?
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:18:49 +0200
Arnau <arnaulist@andromeiberica.com> wrote:


> Hi all!!
> 
>    Does anybody know where I can find a packaged version of 
> eaccelerator? I tried to install it some weeks ago following the 
> http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/eaccelerator.htm instruccions and it gave me 
> a segmentation fault.
> 
> 
> Cheers!!
> -- 
> Arnau


Well, you don't have to be attached always to a packaged version,
if you want, find a source package and build for your own, I've already compiled eaccelerator this way and has no problem at all.

Best,
Orestes



Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:29:45 -0300
From: "Gustavo Franco" <stratus@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Eaccelerator package, where?
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On 6/27/07, Arnau <arnaulist@andromeiberica.com> wrote:

> Hi all!!

>

>    Does anybody know where I can find a packaged version of
> eaccelerator? I tried to install it some weeks ago following the
> http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/eaccelerator.htm instruccions and it gave me
> a segmentation fault.

>

What about the unofficial packages (with source) available at:
http://opensource.creativ-it.net/ ?

regards,
-- stratus
http://stratusandtheswirl.blogspot.com
get debian @ http://get.debian.net/

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:32:41 -0300
From: "Gustavo Franco" <stratus@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to exclude the packges in dist-upgrade
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On 6/27/07, Bhasker C V <bhasker@unixindia.com> wrote:

> Hi all,

>

>  I tried on the apt-get manual. But could not get to my requirement.
>  I have some of the packages in my deb box which i do not want to
> upgrade/remove/uninstall during an apt-get dist-uprade.
>  How do i specify the exclude list ?


You need to put such packages in 'hold' state, using aptitude or
through the CLI running for example:

echo "package hold" | dpkg --set-selections

To check a package state, run:
dpkg --get-selections package

package is of course the package name. ;)

regards,
-- stratus
http://stratusandtheswirl.blogspot.com
get debian @ http://get.debian.net/

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:12:08 +0530
From: Bhasker C V <bhasker@unixindia.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to exclude the packges in dist-upgrade
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Hi,

 Thanks all,

 Setting '=' in deselect works. But the selection does not perculate to
apt-get program.

 I tried echo "hal hold" |   sudo dpkg --set-selections

 This worked. This also solves the dependencies 
 once the top level package is selected to hold then the other packages
  dependent are automatically put on hold !

 As usual ! debian's apt-get is the top package manager i have worked
with !

On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 14:32 -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:

> On 6/27/07, Bhasker C V <bhasker@unixindia.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >  I tried on the apt-get manual. But could not get to my requirement.
> >  I have some of the packages in my deb box which i do not want to
> > upgrade/remove/uninstall during an apt-get dist-uprade.
> >  How do i specify the exclude list ?
> 
> You need to put such packages in 'hold' state, using aptitude or
> through the CLI running for example:
> 
> echo "package hold" | dpkg --set-selections
> 
> To check a package state, run:
> dpkg --get-selections package
> 
> package is of course the package name. ;)
> 
> regards,
> -- stratus
> http://stratusandtheswirl.blogspot.com
> get debian @ http://get.debian.net/
> 
> 

-- 
Bhasker C V
Registered Linux user: #306349 (counter.li.org)
The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed Linux.



Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:25:33 +0200
From: Till Wimmer <t.wimmer@tonarchiv.ch>
To: Martin Marcher <martin.marcher@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Nameserver update
Message-ID: <46829D8D.4070204@tonarchiv.ch>
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Hi Martin,

actually this is not a debian related question...

If you post your zone file and tell us what version, ip etc. your server 
is using, we could help you a little bit more...

bye
Till

Martin Marcher wrote:

> hello,

>

> i needed to update our nameserver, now maintaining my own nameserver
> is fine but I don't know what procedure to follow if i need to point
> our ns a new IP. Having blindly trusted our dns provider to tell me
> about eventualities i just told them to update the ip address for the
> nameserver and tell me about possible problems. what can i say he told
> me everything is fine and now dnsreport.com tells me about mismatched
> glue for our nameservers

>

> http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?%26domain%3Dopenforce.com

>

> Do I just have to wait for the parent servers until propagation is
> finished or did something go horribly wrong?

>

> thanks
> martin

>
>



Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:26:17 -0400
From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to exclude the packges in dist-upgrade
Message-ID: <20070627182617.GB13807@buddy.mtntop.home>
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Bhasker C V(bhasker@unixindia.com) is reported to have said:

> Hi all,
> 
>  I tried on the apt-get manual. But could not get to my requirement.
>  I have some of the packages in my deb box which i do not want to
> upgrade/remove/uninstall during an apt-get dist-uprade. 
>  How do i specify the exclude list ?
> 
> thanks


Someone, sorry I forget who, on this list posted the a few years ago.
It's what I use.

~# less bin/dhold
---------------
#! /bin/sh

PRG=`basename $0`

if [ `id -u` != 0 ] ; then
    echo "you're not root, go away."
    exit 1
elif [ $# != 1 ] ; then
    echo "Usage: $PRG <packagename>"
    exit 1
else
    echo $1 hold | dpkg --set-selections
fi
-----------------------

So in your case, as root:

~# dhold apt-howto

WT

-- 
Error reading FAT record: Try the SKINNY one? (Y/N)
_______________________________________________________



Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:54:37 +0200
From: martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Nameserver update
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also sprach Martin Marcher <martin.marcher@gmail.com> [2007.06.27.2042 +020=
0]:

> details below, long story short: Is it normal that when I change the
> IP of my nameserver the parent nameservers aren't updated immediately
> (after my zone expires)?


I note that your NS entries have TTL of 172800. That's two days and
you may just have to wait that long or even longer for changes to
propagate. Otherwise I can't find a problem with your data.

--=20
Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list!
=20
 .''`.   martin f. krafft <madduck@debian.org>
: :'  :  proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user
`. `'`   http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info
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