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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1858

Today's Topics:

  Re: backports                         [ Florian Kulzer  ]
  Re: Eaccelerator package, where?      [ Roberto =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=2E_S=E1nch ]
  Iceape chokes on PDFs                 [ cls@truffula.sj.ca.us ]
  Re: Get rid of KDE / Gnome desktop m  [ Matthew K Poer  ]
  Re: set up Xserver for etch upgrade   [ rocky  ]
  Re: RTF - proprietary or open?        [ ndemou@gmail.com ]
  Re: set up Xserver for etch upgrade   [ Florian Kulzer  ]
  Re: bluetooth in etch                 [ Jakub Narojczyk  ]
  Re: backports                         [ Chris Lale 

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:34:31 +0200
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: backports

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[ I will remove all email addresses from the output of the gpg commands   which I use/quote below. ]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 17:27:15 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:

[...]

Do you need help?X

> How to you check the output of "gpg --check-sigs"? I Googled a bit and it seems
> that an exclamation mark ("!") indicates a successful check. Is that true?

Yes, but you also have to check which key ID is listed for the signature.

> eg
> $ gpg --check-sigs --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-backports-keyring.gpg

This command only shows you that the backports archive key (16BA136C) has the usual self signature (note the same key ID):

> /usr/share/keyrings/debian-backports-keyring.gpg
> ------------------------------------------------
> pub 1024D/16BA136C 2005-08-21
> uid Backports.org Archive Key
> sig!3 16BA136C 2005-08-21 Backports.org Archive Key
> sig!3 16BA136C 2005-08-21 Backports.org Archive Key
> sub 2048g/5B82CECE 2005-08-21
> sig! 16BA136C 2005-08-21 Backports.org Archive Key

You have to tell gpg which key's signatures it should check. If you really want to know what is going on then you should first look at the list of signatures for the backports key:

$ gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-backports-keyring.gpg --list-sig 16BA136C pub 1024D/16BA136C 2005-08-21

uid                  Backports.org Archive Key
sig          7E7B8AC9 2005-11-20  [User ID not found]
sig          657BF03D 2006-05-27  [User ID not found]
sig 3        16BA136C 2005-08-21  Backports.org Archive Key
sig 3        16BA136C 2005-08-21  Backports.org Archive Key
sub   2048g/5B82CECE 2005-08-21
sig          16BA136C 2005-08-21  Backports.org Archive Key

You see that the key has been signed with two other keys, 7E7B8AC9 and 657BF03D. These keys are not included in debian-backports-keyring.gpg and they are also not on my user's default keyring, therefore gpg cannot provide any information besides the key IDs. If you replace "--list-sig" with "--check-sig" in the above command you will get "2 signatures not checked due to missing keys". However, if you tell gpg to include the keyring from the debian-keyring package, you can verify that one of the signatures was made by a Debian developer:

Do you need more help?X

$ gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-backports-keyring.gpg --check-sig 16BA136C pub 1024D/16BA136C 2005-08-21

uid                  Backports.org Archive Key
sig!         7E7B8AC9 2005-11-20  Joerg Jaspert
sig!3        16BA136C 2005-08-21  Backports.org Archive Key
sig!3        16BA136C 2005-08-21  Backports.org Archive Key
Can we help you?X
sub 2048g/5B82CECE 2005-08-21 sig! 16BA136C 2005-08-21 Backports.org Archive Key

1 signature not checked due to a missing key

The second signature (657BF03D) is meaningless to you, unless you can establish trust in this person by some other means. You can of course find this second key on a keyserver, but anyone can upload keys to the keyservers.

Note that the "--list-sig" command also makes sure that there is no bogus 7E7B8AC9 key on my user's default keyring since the key is not known until I point gpg to the Debian keyring.

> I wanted to find a generic method of importing and checking keys for a number of
> unofficial deb sites. It is difficult to find the key ids on some of the
> websites.

Apt(itude) lists the key IDs when it complains about missing keys.

> One thing they all had in common was having a keyring package. I tried
> backports.org, debian-multimedia.org and debian-unofficial.org. So, here is my
> generic method:
>
> 1. Add the appropriate line to /etc/apt/sources.list.
>
> 2. Update with apt-get or aptitude.
>
> 3. Install the appropriate keyring package (eg debian-multimedia-keyring). The
> keyrings all end up in /etc/share/keyrings/${package-name}.gpg

You are again running an unverified installation script as root. How do you know that your other keyrings, the gpg binary itself and the rest of your system are still trustworthy after that?

Can't find what you're looking for?X

> 4. Check the signatures IMMEDIATELY eg
> $ gpg --check-sigs --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-multimedia-keyring.gpg
>
> 5. If the check fails,
>
> a.purge the keyring package and check that the keyring subdirectory has been
> removed from /etc/share/keyrings/.
>
> b. You can still install packages from the suspect repository, but there will be
> a warning. To be safe, remove the repository line from /etc/apt/sources.list.

Here is a procedure for paranoid people, starting after your step 2; all these commands should be run as an unprivileged user. (The key is extracted manually and added to the unprivileged user's keyring; then it can be checked without risk.)

aptitude download debian-backports-keyring mkdir tempdir
dpkg-deb -X debian-backports-keyring_2007.06.10_all.deb tempdir/ mv tempdir/usr/share/keyrings/debian-backports-keyring.gpg . rm -rf tempdir/

gpg --import debian-backports-keyring.gpg
gpg --list-sig 16BA136C
gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --check-sig 16BA136C

If the key has a valid signature of a Debian developer then you can export it and add it to apt's key ring. (See my earlier mail.) After that you can install the desired backports packages, including the backports keyring package for convenience in case of future key updates.

BTW, the debian-multimedia archive is a special case since Christian Marillat does not use a dedicated archive key; he signs the release files with his normal public key. This key is already included in the debian-keyring package, so you can simply (and safely) export the key from this keyring and feed it to apt:

gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -a --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -

-- 
Regards,            | 
http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
          Florian   |

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:19:52 -0000 From: "alan.ezust@gmail.com" <alan.ezust@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: apt-transport-https on etch Message-ID: <1182982792.292312.5220@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm trying to build from source apt-transport-https so it will work on etch. Currently there is an unstable package but it requires newer versions of libc and gcc than the ones I want to use on this box. I got the source by doing apt-get source apt-transport-https on an unstable system, and it delivered the apt sources. then I tried to build it. Question 1. i'm unable to build apt-ftparchive because it complains that Must have db2 to build apt-ftparchive I was able to find libdb1-compat_2.1.3-9_i386.deb and libdb4.3- dev_4.3.29-8_i386.deb and libdb4.4-dev_4.4.20-8_i386.deb but none of these packages seems to be waht the build script is looking for. What do I need to build apt-ftparchive? Also, after compiling it, I have a bunch of binaries in bin/ I tried "make install" and it said: make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop Why is there no install target? is there an easier way to get apt-transport-https on etch?

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:47:50 -0700 From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: The Perfect Linux gaming Box Message-id: <1182984470.2988.10.camel@debian.ok.shawcable.net> Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On Wed, 2007-27-06 at 12:34 -0400, Orestes leal wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I want that some of the members of the group comments something
> about hard core gaming boxes under Linux, what kind of configuration
> I need to play *ALL* Titles and *ALL* forms of games, 3d games like
> Doom3, etc in linux with a performance closely like win32 and DirectX.
>
> NOTE: CPU, VGA, MEMORY, etc.
I don't know about all titles, I play all the unreal tournament titles starting with GOTY along with doom3 and quake4. These are the ones that need hardware. I still play doom and quake3 (ioquake3 now) but these don't need a lot of computer power but a decent video card is a plus. I play return to castle wolfenstien once in a while too but find it crashes after a while, I'm not sure why. The unreal games all give me good performance but doom3 and quake4 need more cpu and/or video card than I have to work at their best. I find they run a bit clunky. My specs.. CPU: AMD Athlon64 2800+ MEM: 512 Megs VID: nVidia GeForce FX5700LE (128 Megs) (not high end) After learning how to make these things work I find they work just as well or better under linux than windows. We must remember though that a lot of these games were not developed for linux and so the linux port hasn't had the development that their windows counterparts have. Anyway, that's my $0.02.. :)

Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:02:25 -0400 From: Roberto =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=2E_S=E1nchez?= <roberto@connexer.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Eaccelerator package, where? Message-ID: <20070628010225.GD6433@santiago.connexer.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+xNpyl7Qekk2NvDX" Content-Disposition: inline --+xNpyl7Qekk2NvDX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 07:18:49PM +0200, Arnau wrote:
> Hi all!!
>=20
> Does anybody know where I can find a packaged version of=20
> eaccelerator? I tried to install it some weeks ago following the=20
> http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/eaccelerator.htm instruccions and it gave me=
=20
> a segmentation fault.
>=20 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/09/msg00543.html That thread (and the others linked from it) may shed some light on why there is no official package. There is also this bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/280864 Regards, -Roberto --=20 Roberto C. S=E1nchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com --+xNpyl7Qekk2NvDX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGgwih1snWssAFC08RAvxpAJ95Bg6bWSrYGM6OWo+/tOhJJF4QnQCeIBjx ICNdbJoTIg3tu89kMhoLkk0= =yv7f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+xNpyl7Qekk2NvDX--

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:36:54 -0700 From: cls@truffula.sj.ca.us To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Iceape chokes on PDFs Message-ID: <slrnf860l6.m5n.spambait@truffula.sj.ca.us> [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] After I dist-upgraded sarge to etch, I switched from the Mozilla binary Seamonkey to Etch's Iceape. When Seamonkey got a PDF, it would open a dialog to open with Kpdf or save. Iceape just displays an empty page. The title bar says <name>.pdf (application/pdf Object) - Iceape In Preferences, under Navigator Helper Applications, application/pdf says When encountered, Open these files with kpdf %s. Editing, I see it's really /usr/bin/kpdf %s. But when I click OK, I get a Warning dialog. "? Iceape can handle this type internally. For such types, a Helper Application will only be invoked if the server requests external handling." Obviously, Iceape can not "handle this type internally" nor would I want it to. How do I disable this brokenness and restore the Mozilla functionality? Cameron

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:32:45 -0400 From: Matthew K Poer <matthewpoer@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Get rid of KDE / Gnome desktop manager Message-Id: <200706272232.50521.matthewpoer@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4479770.I81pA7lYeN"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart4479770.I81pA7lYeN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 27 June 2007 9:57 pm, rocky wrote:
> Hey,
>
> When I install the Debian I selected Desktop during the installation
> process. Therefore, The KDE or Gnome has been loaded to my Debian box.
> Now I want to only Have xserver and twm window manager. Can any of you
> tell me how can I get rid of the Desktop manager please?
>
> Blessings,
> Rocky
Try using the aptitude UI to remove/purge the tasks 'desktop, gnome, kde'=20 while selecting to hold/install xserver-xorg and twm. It may take a few=20 minutes to remove all of those packages, if you have a full DE installed. =2D-=20 Matthew K Poer <matthewpoer@gmail.com> Location: GA, USA Web: http://matthewpoer.freehostia.com GnuPG Public Key: 4DD0A9A6 Keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net --nextPart4479770.I81pA7lYeN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGgx3SkRdiiE3QqaYRAtJMAJ4xMyoqbQmPes4HmtziZoVEOgdzHwCeNfz4 tTECDwN5Hgcya56Fa0Nc1O0= =3/XW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4479770.I81pA7lYeN--

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:57:11 -0000 From: rocky <rocky2winnie@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Get rid of KDE / Gnome desktop manager Message-ID: <1182995831.991788.310310@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey, When I install the Debian I selected Desktop during the installation process. Therefore, The KDE or Gnome has been loaded to my Debian box. Now I want to only Have xserver and twm window manager. Can any of you tell me how can I get rid of the Desktop manager please? Blessings, Rocky

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:51:45 -0000 From: rocky <rocky2winnie@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: set up Xserver for etch upgrade Message-ID: <1182995505.761079.273640@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Jun 27, 5:20 pm, Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 02:38:10 -0000, rocky wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I reloaded xserver-xorg-core and the SecurityPolicy file is in its
> > place now. both dpkg --purge --force-depends xfonts-base and give me
> > the warning of " warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is
> > not a directory".
>
> I think you can ignore this message.
>
> > Therefore startx give me the error of below:
> > $---------------------error begin------------------------------$
> > xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" };
> > xkb_types { include "complete" };
> > xkb_compatibility { include "complete" };
> > xkb_symbols { include "pc(pc105)+us" };
> > xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
> > xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): no program named "xterm"
> > in PATH
>
> > Specify a program on the command line or make sure that /usr/bin
> > is in your path.
>
> Make sure that the "xterm" package is installed and that /usr/bin/xterm
> has the correct properties:
>
> $ ls -l /usr/bin/xterm
> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root utmp 363280 2007-06-18 15:53 /usr/bin/xterm
>
> > FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
>
> This is harmless as far as I know. It seems that we eliminated the "font
> fixed" problem.
> > >
> > $---------------------------------------error end------------------------------$
>
> > The output of the dpkg -l is
> > $-------------------output begin----------------------------$
> > LIJIANG:~# dpkg -l x{org,server,fonts}\* | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'
> > xfonts-100dpi 1.0.0-3
> > xfonts-75dpi 1.0.0-3
> > xfonts-base 1.0.0-4
> > xfonts-encodings 1.0.0-6
> > xfonts-intl-chinese 1.2.1-6
> > xfonts-scalable 1.0.0-6
> > xfonts-utils 1.0.1-1
> > xfonts-x3270-misc 3.3.4p6-3.3
> > xorg 7.1.0-16
> > xserver-xorg 7.1.0-16
> > xserver-xorg-core 1.1.1-21
> > xserver-xorg-input-all 7.1.0-16
>
> [...]
>
> > xserver-xorg-video-all 7.1.0-16
>
> [...]
>
> > $--------output end-----------------------$
>
> This all looks OK to me; the problem seems to be that you are missing
> the xterm package. If you want to use a different x-terminal-emulator
> then you have to set up your ~/.xinitrc accordingly.
>
> --
> Regards, |http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
> Florian |
>
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Hey Florian, It turns out I did not installed xterm package. Install xterm eliminate the problem. Now I got my Xserver up and running. Thanks very much for you patience guide through. I do really appreciate it. By the way can you tell me what is a x-terminal-emulator do? Thanks again! Blessings, Rocky

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:13:38 +0300 From: ndemou@gmail.com To: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> Cc: "Peter Hillier-Brook" <phb@hbsys.plus.com>, debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: RTF - proprietary or open? Message-ID: <cc703c350706280013r3e102c7dx1850d9e80520f8e3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:
> > It's a Microsoft "standard". Draw your own conclusions regarding "open".
>
> I'd certainly suspect MS, but its authorship is insufficient reason to
> conclude that it isn't open.
authorship is surely insufficient but why don't you take into account these also: - Microsoft is a company with 95% share in the office suits - convicted for monopoly practises some years before - continuously prosecuted for the same reason ever after - unwilling(to put it lightly) to comply to European Union's court rulings to make their products interoperable - strongly(to put it lightly) opposed to an evolving open standard for office documents anyway, IMHO: even if RTF is "open" under some interpretation it's not to be used as a critical component of OS SW. You will have noticed already that it's hard to find the license for the implementation of RTF. Have you? Hundreds of pages of technical documentation and no license makes me nervous and it's *THE* reason for me not to use RTF when the licensor is a company like Microsoft and I want to help it's main competitor.

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:21:38 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: set up Xserver for etch upgrade Message-ID: <20070628072138.GA15964@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 01:51:45 -0000, rocky wrote: [...]
> By the way can you tell me what is a x-terminal-emulator do?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_emulator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xterm You can run aptitude search '~Px-terminal-emulator|~Gx11::terminal' to get a list of Debian packages which provide an x-terminal-emulator. -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:13:09 -0400 From: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: set up Xserver for etch upgrade Message-ID: <20070628081309.GA5077@feisty.myhome.westell.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE" Content-Disposition: inline --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 09:21:38AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 01:51:45 -0000, rocky wrote:
>=20
> [...]
>=20
> > By the way can you tell me what is a x-terminal-emulator do?
>=20
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_emulator
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xterm
>=20
> You can run
>=20
> aptitude search '~Px-terminal-emulator|~Gx11::terminal'
>=20
> to get a list of Debian packages which provide an x-terminal-emulator.
>=20
> --=20
Debian has a system of 'alternative' of which x-terminal-emulator is a part. That command points to (via a symbolic link) the specific program that provides the xterm funtionality. Gcc, www-browser,x-www-browser are other examples of 'alternative' symbolic links. --=20 | .''`. =3D=3D Debian GNU/Linux =3D=3D | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System | go to counter.li.org and | | `- http://www.debian.org/ | be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |_______ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed _______| --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGg22Vv8UcC1qRZVMRAiXQAJ0Rira1H5FCEuIMoTWec533kpPikQCfYFym oEaVR8Xre7fCjcN4bJL7Ik8= =L65G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE--

Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:58:09 +0200 From: Jakub Narojczyk <narojczyk@ifmpan.poznan.pl> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: bluetooth in etch Message-ID: <f5vpmh$6ka$1@news.task.gda.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marcelo Chiapparini napisa=B3(a):
> Hello,
>=20
> I am running etch and I want to use bluetooth in order to synchronize
> my cel telefone (motorola z3) with the desktop. I got a bluetooth usb
> adapter and now I have to configure etch to use bluetooth. I googled a
> bit and found the following pages:
>=20
> http://www.howtoforge.com/bluetooth_pand_debian_etch
>=20
> which seems pretty complex to me, and
>=20
> http://www.stolk.org/debian/bluetooth.html
>=20
> I wander is does exists an standard bluetooth guide for etch...
>=20
> Thanks in advance
>=20
> Marcelo
>=20 It depends what do You want to use the blueooth for. My guess is that=20 You want to donload/upload files from/into a cell phone. The lilnks You=20 found describe, as far as I understand, how to connect devices via usb=20 to create some sort of wireless network (but maybe I' wrong) I tried to=20 sync my samsung e250 also only to download/upload stuff but after a=20 while I gave up :(. I couldn't find a good how to about bluetooh and=20 phones. If You browse the list a while back You should even find my post=20 here but there were no answers. May by You will be more lucky ;) Kuba

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:50:27 -0400 From: "P Kapat" <kap4lin@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue Message-ID: <daef5be80706280150o3c6c93fcv89dba9d28efe2d17@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks to Andrew, Wayne and Wackojacko for the responses. On 6/27/07, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:59:10PM -0400, P Kapat wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am running Debian unstable on an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and a
> > MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo.
> >
> > Problem: Kernel does not recognise all the RAM, it sees only 1GB.
> >
> > $ uname -a
> > Linux *** 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
> >
>
> you definitely need another kernel.
I finally did change. [...snip...]
> > 2. When I do get time and feel comfortable to move to a native 64bit
> > machine, which kernel should I use? The options I am looking at are:
> > a) linux-image-2.6-amd64 (under amd64 or i386 arch?)
> >
> > b) linux-image-2.6-k7 (under amd64 or i386 arch?)
>
> I think you can install this kernel and see your memory. You have an
> AMD, so this should work. though I've not tried it. If it doesn't
> work, you'll know first boot... ;) It is a 32bit kernel and will work
> with the stuff you already have installed.
YES it works:-) I can finally see upto 2.97 GB. This seems to support upto 4GB of memory. Though there was this quirk with nvidia's installer : http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/05/msg00172.html But thanks to Julian, (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/05/msg03239.html) I got almost everything sorted out. I had to remove some symlinks and header files manually, nvidia-installer didnot remove them.
> > I am not sure what the "-vserver-" images are and does my processor
> > come under the k7 class?
>
> if you don't know then you probably don't need it.
I looked around a little more and yes, I don't need the virtualization.
> learn to use 'apt-cache search' and 'apt-cache show'.
I am not sure what is intended here, but I did search around (mostly on packages.debian.org) and came up with the above mentioned kernels. The finer distinctions between them was not available from the package descriptions. And that is where the mailing list comes to help. Once again, thanks Andrew. -- Regards PK -------------------------------------- http://counter.li.org #402424

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:25:05 +0100 From: Chris Lale <chrislale@untrammelled.co.uk> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: backports Message-ID: <46837E71.3060900@untrammelled.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Florian Kulzer wrote: [...]
>
> You have to tell gpg which key's signatures it should check. If you
> really want to know what is going on then you should first look at the
> list of signatures for the backports key:
>
> $ gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-backports-keyring.gpg --list-sig 16BA136C
> pub 1024D/16BA136C 2005-08-21
> uid Backports.org Archive Key
> sig 7E7B8AC9 2005-11-20 [User ID not found]
> sig 657BF03D 2006-05-27 [User ID not found]
> sig 3 16BA136C 2005-08-21 Backports.org Archive Key
> sig 3 16BA136C 2005-08-21 Backports.org Archive Key
> sub 2048g/5B82CECE 2005-08-21
> sig 16BA136C 2005-08-21 Backports.org Archive Key
>
> You see that the key has been signed with two other keys, 7E7B8AC9 and
> 657BF03D. These keys are not included in debian-backports-keyring.gpg
> and they are also not on my user's default keyring, therefore gpg cannot
> provide any information besides the key IDs. If you replace "--list-sig"
> with "--check-sig" in the above command you will get "2 signatures not
> checked due to missing keys". However, if you tell gpg to include the
> keyring from the debian-keyring package, you can verify that one of the
> signatures was made by a Debian developer:
>
> $ gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-backports-keyring.gpg --check-sig 16BA136C
> pub 1024D/16BA136C 2005-08-21
> uid Backports.org Archive Key
> sig! 7E7B8AC9 2005-11-20 Joerg Jaspert
> sig!3 16BA136C 2005-08-21 Backports.org Archive Key
> sig!3 16BA136C 2005-08-21 Backports.org Archive Key
> sub 2048g/5B82CECE 2005-08-21
> sig! 16BA136C 2005-08-21 Backports.org Archive Key
>
[..] Thanks, Florian. I suppose that you can check that Joerg Jaspert is a Debian developer by checking the Debian developer database [1]. [1] http://db.debian.org/ -- Chris. End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #1858 ************************************************** Received on Thu Jun 28 06:03:16 2007

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