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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #1865

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1865

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Some ALSA apps stopped working    [ Chris Lale  ]
  Re: Some ALSA apps stopped working    [ Florian Kulzer  ]
  Re: apt-get install problem           [ Daniel Burrows  ]
  Re: How to move the master boot reco  [ Joe Hart  ]
  Re: Some ALSA apps stopped working    [ Nigel Henry  ]
  Re: libneon25, or libneon26?          [ Marc Shapiro 

Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:39:48 +0100


From: Chris Lale <chrislale@untrammelled.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Some ALSA apps stopped working

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Thanks for the suggestions, Nigel.



Nigel Henry wrote:

> On Thursday 28 June 2007 12:08, Chris Lale wrote:
>> Some of my Etch sound apps have stopped working: Audacity, RealPlayer 10,
>> XMMS. Others continue to work OK: gxine, mplayer, VLC Media Player.


> 
> Hi Chris. Is this [...] an existing install, and some have just stopped 
> working? [...]

Yes. The apps have stopped working on my desktop machine.


Do you need help?X

[...]

> Seems like something has grabbed the soundcard, and won't let go. You could 
> try disabling ESD, Gnomes sound daemon, if you're using Gnome, or aRTs sound 
> server if you're using KDE. They are often responsible for this sort of 
> problem.

Both esd and arts are disabled and there are no processes for either.


> 
>> I can fix XMMS by changing the output plugin from OSS to ALSA (right-click
>> -> Options -> Preferences -> Output Plugin. This should not be necessary -
>> my Etch laptop works perfectly through ALSA with the Output Plugin set to
>> OSS.
>>
>> I can fix RealPlayer and Audacity by installing alsa-oss and running them
>> from a terminal using "aoss realplay" and "aoss audacity". I am sure that

Do you need more help?X

>> this should not be necessary either.


> 
> I always install alsa-oss as a matter of course, and didn't think that 
> RealPlayer would work without it, as it's an OSS app. Same goes for Audacity 
> IIRC.


The above fixes work for the affected desktop machine. On my laptop alsa-oss is
not installed. Nevertheless, Audacity loads and plays files. I have installed
realplayer and


it worked first time.


> 
> Does running ps auxw show anything using the sound. Some daemon or other?

No oss or arts daemons. Nothing else related to sound that I can see.


> 
> Over to you.

Both machines have Etch up to date.



The laptop has /dev/dsp, the affected desktop does not. Perhaps this device is
needed by alsa for the affected applications? I tried to create the device with


Can we help you?X

        # cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV -v sound



but the command created the devices in /dev/.static/dev/ because udev is active.
Both machines have udev. Is there another way to create /dev/dsp?


-- 
Chris.


Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:09:23 +0100
From: michael <cs@networkingnewsletter.org.uk>
To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: new disk results in boot problem
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On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 12:01 +0200, nicals wahlgren wrote:

> Normally I am using one sata disk, no problem to boot from it. (using 
> amd64 and sid, kernel 2.6.21.2-amd64)
> But when I add another sata or ide disk from old Debian systems the 
> system ends up in initramfs.
> BIOS still says it boots from original disk.
> 
> How do I keep the system to boot from original sata disk when adding 
> more disks?


A bit more info is required

a) when you have only one disk what is its device (/dev/sda?)

b) how do you connect the 2nd disk (primary slave?)

c) with both disks what are their respective devices?

d) what does your GRUB entry say

e) what bootlog error msgs do you get



Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:40:03 -0400
From: "David Ondzes" <dao@pobox.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: web proxy settings
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Hello All. I installed my debian while behind a web proxy and now
I want to run it with a direct connection. What config file do I need
to change to remove the proxy info I entered during install. My system
is headless so I will need a command line way of removing the
information.

Thanks
David



Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:37:36 +0200
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Some ALSA apps stopped working
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On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 12:39:48 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:

[...]


> Both machines have Etch up to date.
> 
> The laptop has /dev/dsp, the affected desktop does not. Perhaps this device is
> needed by alsa for the affected applications? I tried to create the device with
> 
> 	# cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV -v sound
> 
> but the command created the devices in /dev/.static/dev/ because udev is active.
> Both machines have udev. Is there another way to create /dev/dsp?


# file /dev/dsp
/dev/dsp: ERROR: cannot open `/dev/dsp' (No such file or directory)

# modprobe snd_pcm_oss

# file /dev/dsp
/dev/dsp: character special (14/3)

-- 
Regards,            | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
          Florian   |



Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:55:27 -0400
From: Orestes leal <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Any ksh Raw binaries Out there that work for linux i386?
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:34:36 +0200
Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uhlar@fantomas.sk> wrote:


> > > Ore writes:
> > > > I know that it's in the repository but I need the raw binary for 38=

6.
>=20

> Why?

>=20

> I am afraid only statically linked binary can do that since many distros =

use

> different libraries. It will be huge and not flexible, andc even that mig=

ht

> not work on some distros with special environments.


Actually no, like I Said in one of the posts I've 'cloned' (copied) all
the files related to ksh and passed to my system., actually no fancy
libraries needed, look

        linux-gate.so.1 =3D>  (0xffffe000)
        libdl.so.2 =3D> /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7f98000)
        libm.so.6 =3D> /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7f73000)
        libc.so.6 =3D> /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7e4a000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fb0000)



> > On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:54:55 -0500 John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org> wro=

te:

> > > I don=B4t understand what you mean by =A8raw binary=A8.  What=B4s wro=

ng with the

> > > binary in the ksh package?

>=20

> On 27.06.07 08:33, Orestes leal wrote:
> > Well, I don't speak english to good, I meant a Ksh Binary that works in
> > every linux distro, hope that makes clear the point.

>=20

> please set up your mailer to wrap lines below 80 characters per line.


Sorry, yeah.



Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:09:32 +0200
From: "Jeroen Dijkmans" <dijlle@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: lenny: KDE menus disappeared after upgrade
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Hello,


I performed an dist-upgrade of my lenny system this morning.  After that, I
noticed that starting up my wife's KDE, gives a lot of trouble.  I get the
following two error pop-ups:

Malformed url file://home/mywife/Desktop
Malformed url system:/


After which I get the desktop, but all menu items are dissapeared, except
for a few things like "execute command", "logout".

According to dpkg.log, following kde packages get upgraded:

kdeadmin                                 4:3.5.7-1
kdeadmin-kfile-plugins         4:3.5.7-1
kdeartwork                               4:3.5.7-1
kdeartwork-emoticons           4:3.5.7-1
kdeartwork-misc                     4:3.5.7-1
kdeartwork-style                     4:3.5.7-1
kdeartwork-theme-icon         4:3.5.7-1
kdeartwork-theme-window   4:3.5.7-1
kdebase                                   4:3.5.7-1
kdebase-bin                            4:3.5.7-1
kdebase-data                          4:3.5.7-1
kdebase-kio-plugins              4:3.5.7-1
kdegames                                4:3.5.7-2
kdegames-card-data             4:3.5.7-2
kdelibs                                      4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-1
kdelibs-data                             4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-1
kdelibs4c2a                             4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-1
kdepasswd                              4:3.5.7-1
kdeprint                                     4:3.5.7-1
kdesktop                                   4:3.5.7-1
kdetoys                                      4:3.5.7-2
kdewallpapers                         4:3.5.7-1
libkdegames1                          4:3.5.7-2


Thanks in advance for the help.

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<span style="font-size: larger;"></span>Hello,<br><br><br>I performed an dist-upgrade of my lenny system this morning.&nbsp; After that, I noticed that starting up my wife&#39;s KDE, gives a lot of trouble.&nbsp; I get the following two error pop-ups:
<br><br>Malformed url file://home/mywife/Desktop<br>Malformed url system:/<br><br><br>After which I get the desktop, but all menu items are dissapeared, except for a few things like &quot;execute command&quot;, &quot;logout&quot;.
<br><br>According to dpkg.log, following kde packages get upgraded:<br><br>kdeadmin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdeadmin-kfile-plugins&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdeartwork&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1
<br>kdeartwork-emoticons&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdeartwork-misc&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdeartwork-style&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdeartwork-theme-icon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdeartwork-theme-window&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1
<br>kdebase&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdebase-bin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdebase-data&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdebase-kio-plugins&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdegames&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:
3.5.7-2<br>kdegames-card-data&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-2<br>kdelibs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-1<br>kdelibs-data&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-1<br>kdelibs4c2a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:
3.5.7.dfsg.1-1<br>kdepasswd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdeprint&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdesktop&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>kdetoys&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:
3.5.7-2<br>kdewallpapers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-1<br>libkdegames1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4:3.5.7-2<br><br><br>Thanks in advance for the help.<br>

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:23:52 +0200
From: Kim Christensen <kim-lists@01.se>
To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: GRUB not loading kernel image
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Hey list,

I came across a really pesky problem when installing Debian on one of
our servers today. An installation like any other, with our standard
setup:

* 3ware 9550SX-4LP RAID controller
* 2x Western Digital WD5000YS drives in RAID1

As this was only to be used for temporary storage, I didn't bother with
LVM on the disk array. I went with the following partition layout:

/dev/sda1 ext2 (50M)
/dev/sda2 swap (2G)
/dev/sda3 reiserfs (the rest)

The installation went fine. I installed GRUB as a boot loader, and
continued to reboot the server. However, after the GRUB loading screen
nothing happened. 

GRUB echoes out its boot command list (like always), but hangs where it
should load the actual kernel image. I have done a few reboots, no luck.
I also tried mounting the partitions in a rescue shell using the Debian
CD, which works like a charm.

Since I do not get any specifics out of GRUB on what might cause the
trouble, I'm a little unsure on what I should do next to troubleshoot.

Any ideas?

Kernel version is 2.6.18.4. 


Best regards,
-- 
Kim Christensen
"Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing."


Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:18:24 -0700
From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org>
To: Nick Adie <nick.adie@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt-get install problem
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On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 09:42:20AM +0100, Nick Adie <nick.adie@gmail.com> was heard to say:

> I ran: apt-get install mediawiki [OK]
> i ran: apt-get remove --purge mediawiki [OK]
> 
> I then in hind sight did a 'stupid' and removed the leftover folders and
> files.
> 
> When I now run: apt-get install mediawiki
> 
> It searches the repository tells me everything is OK and installs nothing.


  What do you get from "dpkg -s mediawiki"?

  Daniel



Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:33:09 +0200
From: Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to move the master boot record?
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Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:

>> In my computer the master boot record is installed in /dev/hda6.  Suppose I
>> want to move it and have it installed in /dev/hda9: is it possible, and how?


"Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net> writes:


> There is only one master boot record per drive.  hda6 and hda9 are two
> partitions of the same drive, namely, drive hda.

>

> Perhaps you mean that hda6 is the "/boot" partition, and you wish
> /boot to be hda9 ?

>

> You need to provide us with more information.




Yes, you're right, I'll try to better explain myself.

On my PC, besides the swap partition, I have one partition, hda1, for MS
Windows and another five for Linux: hda6, had7, hda8, hda9, hda10.

At the moment the `boot partition' is hda6 and I want it to be, say, hda9.
Sorry if I can'y use the right words.  Maybe I should say that the hda6 Grub
boot loader is now installed to the master boot record of my hard drive whereas
the hda9 boot loader is installed to the /dev/hda9 partition?

I want to do so beacuse: now I'm still using Debian Sarge, which is installed
in hda6; I want to install Debian Etch in hda9; then when I'm sure that
everything is all right with Etch I want to boot from hda9, so hda6 can be
formatted again.

I hope that now it is clear enough what I want.

Thanks for any help
Rodolfo



Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:33:20 +0100
From: "Nick Adie" <nick.adie@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt-get install problem
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On 6/29/07, Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> wrote:
>

> On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 09:42:20AM +0100, Nick Adie <nick.adie@gmail.com>
> was heard to say:
> > I ran: apt-get install mediawiki [OK]
> > i ran: apt-get remove --purge mediawiki [OK]
> >
> > I then in hind sight did a 'stupid' and removed the leftover folders and
> > files.
> >
> > When I now run: apt-get install mediawiki
> >
> > It searches the repository tells me everything is OK and installs
> nothing.

>

> What do you get from "dpkg -s mediawiki"?

>

> Daniel

>

Thanks for the reply, Will try tonight
Nick

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<br><br>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/29/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Daniel Burrows</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:dburrows@debian.org">dburrows@debian.org</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 09:42:20AM +0100, Nick Adie &lt;<a href="mailto:nick.adie@gmail.com">nick.adie@gmail.com
</a>&gt; was heard to say:<br>&gt; I ran: apt-get install mediawiki [OK]<br>&gt; i ran: apt-get remove --purge mediawiki [OK]<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I then in hind sight did a &#39;stupid&#39; and removed the leftover folders and
<br>&gt; files.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; When I now run: apt-get install mediawiki<br>&gt;<br>&gt; It searches the repository tells me everything is OK and installs nothing.<br><br>What do you get from &quot;dpkg -s mediawiki&quot;?
<br><br>Daniel<br></blockquote></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks for the reply, Will try tonight</div>
<div>Nick</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:39:58 +0200
From: Joe Hart <j.hart@orange.nl>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to move the master boot record?
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On Friday 29 June 2007 15:33:09 Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> In my computer the master boot record is installed in /dev/hda6. 
> >> Suppose I want to move it and have it installed in /dev/hda9: is it
> >> possible, and how?

>

> "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net> writes:
> > There is only one master boot record per drive.  hda6 and hda9 are two
> > partitions of the same drive, namely, drive hda.
> >
> > Perhaps you mean that hda6 is the "/boot" partition, and you wish
> > /boot to be hda9 ?
> >
> > You need to provide us with more information.

>

> Yes, you're right, I'll try to better explain myself.

>

> On my PC, besides the swap partition, I have one partition, hda1, for MS
> Windows and another five for Linux: hda6, had7, hda8, hda9, hda10.

>

> At the moment the `boot partition' is hda6 and I want it to be, say, hda9.
> Sorry if I can'y use the right words.  Maybe I should say that the hda6
> Grub boot loader is now installed to the master boot record of my hard
> drive whereas the hda9 boot loader is installed to the /dev/hda9 partition?

>

There are more than one way to do this, but this will (should) work:

#grub
grub>root (hd0,8)
grub>setup (hd0)
grub>quit

hd0,8 = /dev/hda9, so you should be alright with those command.  Note that the 
# and the grub> are the prompts.


> I want to do so beacuse: now I'm still using Debian Sarge, which is
> installed in hda6; I want to install Debian Etch in hda9; then when I'm
> sure that everything is all right with Etch I want to boot from hda9, so
> hda6 can be formatted again.

>

> I hope that now it is clear enough what I want.

>

> Thanks for any help
> Rodolfo

Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:46:15 +0200
From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb@tiscali.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Some ALSA apps stopped working
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On Friday 29 June 2007 13:39, Chris Lale wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions, Nigel.

>

> Nigel Henry wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 June 2007 12:08, Chris Lale wrote:
> >> Some of my Etch sound apps have stopped working: Audacity, RealPlayer
> >> 10, XMMS. Others continue to work OK: gxine, mplayer, VLC Media Player.
> >
> > Hi Chris. Is this [...] an existing install, and some have just stopped
> > working? [...]

>

> Yes. The apps have stopped working on my desktop machine.

>

> [...]

>

> > Seems like something has grabbed the soundcard, and won't let go. You
> > could try disabling ESD, Gnomes sound daemon, if you're using Gnome, or
> > aRTs sound server if you're using KDE. They are often responsible for
> > this sort of problem.

>

> Both esd and arts are disabled and there are no processes for either.

>

> >> I can fix XMMS by changing the output plugin from OSS to ALSA
> >> (right-click -> Options -> Preferences -> Output Plugin. This should not
> >> be necessary - my Etch laptop works perfectly through ALSA with the
> >> Output Plugin set to OSS.
> >>
> >> I can fix RealPlayer and Audacity by installing alsa-oss and running
> >> them from a terminal using "aoss realplay" and "aoss audacity". I am
> >> sure that this should not be necessary either.
> >
> > I always install alsa-oss as a matter of course, and didn't think that
> > RealPlayer would work without it, as it's an OSS app. Same goes for
> > Audacity IIRC.

>

> The above fixes work for the affected desktop machine. On my laptop
> alsa-oss is not installed. Nevertheless, Audacity loads and plays files. I
> have installed realplayer and
> it worked first time.


It looks like I was wrong then about Realplayer, and Audacity needing alsa-oss 
to be installed for them to work.
>

> > Does running ps auxw show anything using the sound. Some daemon or other?

>

> No oss or arts daemons. Nothing else related to sound that I can see.

>

> > Over to you.

>

> Both machines have Etch up to date.

>

> The laptop has /dev/dsp, the affected desktop does not. Perhaps this device
> is needed by alsa for the affected applications? I tried to create the
> device with

>

>  # cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV -v sound

>

> but the command created the devices in /dev/.static/dev/ because udev is
> active. Both machines have udev. Is there another way to create /dev/dsp?


Well I found something on Google here about missing /dev/dsp, which I have to 
say I've never experienced.
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=544920

There's a load of other hits on Google for /dev/dsp missing , which may be 
worth having a look at.

The suggestion at least on this page is to, as root, modprobe snd-pcm-oss. I'd 
run lsmod first and see if snd-pcm-oss, and snd-mixer-oss are loaded. You 
should the device nodes have been created after modprobing it.

Why you've lost them though, is a bit of a mystery. I'd thought perhaps some 
kernel related thing, if your using a later kernel on your PC than on the 
laptop, or have rolled your own for the PC, and have missed something out 
when running makemenuconfig.

I've only got 3 kernels on my Etch. 2.4.27, 2.6.8 (both leftover from sarge), 
and a 2.6.17 which uses udev.

Let us know how you get on, and if there are still problems. The modules 
should be being loaded automatically when you boot up, and obviously were 
until recently, but if that modprobe works, you can always add them 
to /etc/modules, and they will be loaded when you boot. If they are already 
loaded, they'll just be skipped.

Nigel.



> --
> Chris.

Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:55:19 -0700
From: Marc Shapiro <mshapiro_42@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: libneon25, or libneon26?
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Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:

> Aptitude is clever. If nothing depends on libneon26, and it's not one of 
> the packages that you specifically wanted installed, then it's a 
> candidate for removal.

>

> Sounds like you had something installed (at some point) that needed 
> libneon26, but that "something" has been removed again. So aptitude 
> tries to tidy up for you.
>   

>> Is there any way to use what I have, or do I need to let aptitude 
>> downgrade libneon?
>>     
>

> Unless you need libneon26 for something else outside the package 
> management system (e.g. stuff you manually installed in /usr/local or 
> /opt), I'd say to let aptitude do its thing. It's very good at keeping 
> things tidy.
>   

I understand how aptitude handles automatically installed packages.  
Since I have always used aptitude on this box my question, I suppose, is 
why is libneon26 still installed.  When I uninstalled whatever was 
depending on it aptitude should have uninstalled libneon26 at that 
time.  The only thing that I can see that SHOULD have created this 
situation would be if the previous OOo was compiled for libneon26 and 
the current OOo is compiled for libneon25.  But I can't see why the 
maintainers would use an older library in a newer compile of OOo.  Does 
anyone have any ideas on this?

-- 
Marc Shapiro
mshapiro_42@yahoo.com



Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:07:30 -0700
From: Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org>
To: Marc Shapiro <mshapiro_42@yahoo.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: libneon25, or libneon26?
Message-id: <20070629140730.GA6313@emurlahn.burrows.local>
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On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 06:55:19AM -0700, Marc Shapiro <mshapiro_42@yahoo.com> was heard to say:

> Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> I understand how aptitude handles automatically installed packages.  
> Since I have always used aptitude on this box my question, I suppose, is 
> why is libneon26 still installed.  When I uninstalled whatever was 
> depending on it aptitude should have uninstalled libneon26 at that 
> time.  The only thing that I can see that SHOULD have created this 
> situation would be if the previous OOo was compiled for libneon26 and 
> the current OOo is compiled for libneon25.  But I can't see why the 
> maintainers would use an older library in a newer compile of OOo.  Does 
> anyone have any ideas on this?


  The version of openoffice.org on ftp.debian.org depends on libneon26,
whereas the (newer) version on security.debian.org depends on libneon25.
I don't know why this is -- maybe the person who build the etch version
had libneon26-dev installed and OOo picked that up automatically?

  Daniel

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