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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1870

Today's Topics: 

  [SOLVED]: No Sound After Playing XMM  [ TW  ]
  Re: Updating without Apt              [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  Re: web proxy settings                [ "David Ondzes"  ]
  Re: FileSystem Question               [ Sam Leon  ]
  Re: Updating without Apt              [ John Hasler  ]
  Re: Get rid of KDE / Gnome desktop m  [ - Tong -  ]
  Re: Issues dist-upgrading Etch to Le  [ "David Fox"  ]
  Header files amd64 etch               [ Francesco Pietra  ]
  Re: Header files amd64 etch           [ Kushal Kumaran  ]
  Re: No Sound After Playing XMMS       [ Chris Lale 

Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:13:55 -0600


From: TW <twilliams001@elp.rr.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: [SOLVED]: No Sound After Playing XMMS

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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 10:21:52AM -0600, TW wrote:
>   
>> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>     
>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 11:51:29AM -0600, TW wrote:
>>>  
>>>       
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>   After playing music with the XMMS application, I seem to be unable 
>>>> to hear sound after closing the XMMS app and going to watch videos at 
>>>> Google Video (or anywhere else on the web). 

Do you need help?X

>>>>    
>>>>         
>>> is it just web sound you can't hear or is it any sound? 
>>>
>>> what audio out are you using with xmms: alsa, oss, esd?
>>>
>>> I'm willing to bet that you're starting some sound daemon in the
>>> process of starting xmms and that soudn daemon is still around after
>>> you exit and its blocking up the sound.
>>>
>>> A
>>>  
>>>       
>> I just checked my I/O and changed it to ALSA (it was using OSS).  That 
>> may have been my problem, but not sure.  Thanks.  ~Telly
>>
>>     
>


> well, does it work now? 
>


> A
>


> p.s. putting this back on the list
>   

Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:51:56 -0700


From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Updating without Apt


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On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 06:27:23PM -0700, Andrew Gray wrote:

> My name is Andrew, and I use Debian Lenny on an x86 machine.

>=20



[...]

> The software in question is emacs22. Currently I have it compiled in my=

=20

> home directory at ~/source/emacs/, where I run it directly out of the=20
> src directory. I dare not "make install", or my apt install will be=20
> permanently harmed and/or it won't work and I will be faced with a=20
> crippled, non-running version of emacs on my system.

[...]

>=20


> Is there anything I can do to ensure that if I did a make install it=20
> wouldn't affect my current install or something like that?

>=20



while I've not built emacs from source before, the SOP for these sorts
of things is to install local packages into /usr/local/



generally there are ./configure options you can set to change the
install directory. Debian packages will not touch /usr/local, so
you'll be good to go. YOu could even statically link program so that
you won't have to worry about libraries upgrading underneath you.=20



hth.


Can we help you?X

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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:27:23 -0700


From: Andrew Gray <sweetandy@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Updating without Apt

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My name is Andrew, and I use Debian Lenny on an x86 machine.



I love Debian. I love apt. The Debian/Apt combination has allowed me to 
use software I would have never before dreamed to be possible to use. 
I'm quite content with my system at the moment. My problem comes when a 
piece of software that I use with frequency is updated by the developers 
in a major way. The Debian repositories do not reflect this change, and 
likely won't for some time.


Can't find what you're looking for?X

The software in question is emacs22. Currently I have it compiled in my 
home directory at ~/source/emacs/, where I run it directly out of the 
src directory. I dare not "make install", or my apt install will be 
permanently harmed and/or it won't work and I will be faced with a 
crippled, non-running version of emacs on my system. Not only that, but 
with this compilation I was able to enable GTK for the X11 run of emacs. 
I loved having that kind of flexibility with my compilation.



Is there anything I can do to ensure that if I did a make install it 
wouldn't affect my current install or something like that?



Thanks,


Andrew Gray



Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:47:52 -0400


From: "David Ondzes" <dao@pobox.com>


To: "Jeff D" <fixedored@gmail.com>,


        "debian user" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: web proxy settings

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On 6/29/07, David Ondzes <dao@pobox.com> wrote:

>


> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:15 pm, Jeff D wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, David Ondzes wrote:
> >
> >>> /etc/apt# find .  |  xargs grep proxy_server
> >>
> >> Did not find "proxy_server" in any of the files below /etc/apt
> >>
> >> On 6/29/07, Pol Hallen <debianen@fuckaround.org> wrote:
> >>>>  Hello All. I installed my debian while behind a web proxy and now
> >>>>  I want to run it with a direct connection. What config file do I need
> >>>>  to change to remove the proxy info I entered during install. My system
> >>>>  is headless so I will need a command line way of removing the
> >>>>  information.
> >>> Hi,
> >>> i'm not sure, but u should see in /etc/apt/sources.list and remove
> >>> proxy
> >>> references.
> >>> Pol
> >>>
> >
> > Try looking for just proxy,  not proxy_server
>


> "proxy_server" was the machine name for the proxy server. I tried just
> proxy that had no hits as well.

I found it, it was in /etc/apt/apt.conf and had a label of
"Acquire::http::Proxy"


Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:10:59 -0500


From: Sam Leon <leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: FileSystem Question

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Manon Metten wrote:

> Hi,
>


> On my Debian GNU/Linux box I use ext3 file system. On my other platform
> (AmigaOS) I use SmartFileSystem (SFS). Well, I don't know nothing about
> file systems, but SFS has one feature I really miss in ext3: ".recycled".
>


> Every file I delete or every file I overwrite, ends up in .recycled. 
> This is very
> useful when eg. retrieving a document (or every other file that gets 
> overwritten
> multiple times).
>


> Eg: Say that I'm writing "my_doc" using OOo. When I save it for the 
> first time,
> it will be written to disk. When I save it the second time, the first 
> copy will be
> moved to .recycled where it gets a hex nr appended (eg: my_doc$AAA) and
> the new version will be saved to disk.
> So when I save my_doc five times, 4 copies end up in .recycled 
> (my_doc$AAA,
> my_doc$AAB, my_doc$AAC, my_doc$AAD). But I could easily save my_doc
> a thousand times, and all copies end up in .recycled (well, actually, 
> the max
> number of copies .recycled stores depend on the settings but the limit 
> is over
> 32,000).
>


> Now after saving for the fifth time, I realize that I had accidentally 
> deleted some
> vital info. How can I retrieve that? I just open eg. 
> .recycled/my_doc$AAB, copy
> the info that was not deleted at that time and paste it in my current 
> doc.
>


> Now here's my question: Is there a file system for GNU/Linux with a 
> similar
> feature? I would at least like to have my ~ partition to use such a 
> file system.


>

> Greetings, Manon.

ext3cow does this but it is not in debian repos for some reason...


http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/02/0413253

Sam



Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:27:12 -0500


From: Kent West <westk@acu.edu>


To: debian users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: resolv.conf wrongly gets Belkin router's address

Message-ID: <4685BF80.80402@acu.edu>
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Confused? Frustrated?X

I replaced a dead router the other day with a new Belkin F5D7230-4 
wireless/4-port unit.



When networking starts on my Etch box, /etc/resolv.conf gets rewritten 
like so:



search hydroplatenet

nameserver 192.168.2.1
nameserver 208.180.42.68
nameserver 208.180.42.100


Web browsing (and other name-dependent Intarweb Pipes stuff) is very 
slow with these settings, but if I comment/remove the first nameserver 
line, which is the address of the Belkin router, things are fine.



I found a couple of other people with similar problems 
(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297834 and 
http://www.mepis.org/node/3221), one of which provided the kludgey fix 
of pre-pending the good addresses via /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to force 
duplicates of the good address to the top of the file, but that's just ugly.



I've sent this problem to Belkin, and their tech support responded that 
"The Belkin Router only provides a Gateway address but is not a DNS 
server" 


(http://www.belkin.com/contact/milan/default1.aspx?id=5B5B5956095F560D0D5C5F0E5B0A5D56305F5E).



They indicated that I should call them on the phone (I hate dealing with 
stuff over the phone...), but I wanted to get all my ducks in a row 
before I do so.



So my real question:


Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

Is Debian somehow responsible for incorrectly seeing this "Gateway 
address" as a name server address (and if so, how do I fix it), or is 
the Belkin tech supporter incorrect about his product (or some other 
option)?




Thanks!


-- 
Kent


Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:23:58 -0500
From: John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Updating without Apt
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Andrew Gray writes:

> I love Debian. I love apt. The Debian/Apt combination has allowed me to use
> software I would have never before dreamed to be possible to use. I'm quite
> content with my system at the moment. My problem comes when a piece of
> software that I use with frequency is updated by the developers in a major
> way. The Debian repositories do not reflect this change, and likely won't
> for some time.

> The software in question is emacs22.


toncho/~ apt-cache madison emacs
     emacs | 22.0.99+1-1 | ftp://ftp.us.debian.org experimental/main Packages
     emacs |  21.4a+1-5 | ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages
   emacs21 |  21.4a+1-5 | ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Sources
   emacs22 | 22.0.99+1-1 | ftp://ftp.us.debian.org experimental/main Sources

-- 
John Hasler



Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:17:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: - Tong - <mlist4suntong@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: Get rid of KDE / Gnome desktop manager
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:57:11 +0000, rocky wrote:


> Can any of you
> tell me how can I get rid of the Desktop manager please?


To remove all of KDE packages:

http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/distro/debian/deb08-DpkgRelated/a=
r01s03.html#_remove_all_of_KDE_packages

i.e.,=20

 apt-get remove libarts1

Don't know how to do the same to gnome, because I use to keep it. :-)


> Now I want to only Have xserver and twm window manager.=20


Have you given fluxbox a try? Hope you'd love it.

--=20
Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
  http://xpt.sf.net/techdocs/
  http://xpt.sf.net/tools/

Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:51:37 -0700
From: "David Fox" <dfox94085@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Issues dist-upgrading Etch to Lenny - 1 week old
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>
>

> please post up the libgphoto problem again...



It was a bit long to post but it's in there somewhere - i'm having issues
with jadetex and other
packages as well, but those are not all that big of a deal. I do most of my
camera work either with
digikam or by browsing the camera card in konqueror anyway.


http://www.pastebin.ca/596742

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<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>please post up the libgphoto problem again...</blockquote><br>It was a bit long to post but it&#39;s in there somewhere - i&#39;m having issues with jadetex and other
<br>packages as well, but those are not all that big of a deal. I do most of my camera work either with<br>digikam or by browsing the camera card in konqueror anyway.<br><br><br><a href="http://www.pastebin.ca/596742">http://www.pastebin.ca/596742
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:00:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Francesco Pietra <chiendarret@yahoo.com>
To: debian-users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>,
	debian64 <debian-amd64@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Header files amd64 etch
Message-ID: <579361.26696.qm@web58904.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
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A mixed compilation (ifort/gcc 4.1.2) of Amber9 on amd64 etch
dual-core-opterons (Linux deb32 2.6.18-3-k7 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 17:23:11 UTC=
 2006
i686 GNU/Linux)
requests the following header files;

WcActCB.c:22:28: error: X11/IntrinsicP.h: No such file or directory
WcActCB.c:29:24: error: X11/ShellP.h: No such file or directory


as the single errors out of an enormous number of modules that passed "ma=
ke".

As a beginner in compilations, I would appreciate being instructed how to=
 find
the appropriate (64bit if they differ from 32bit) headers. I have seen pa=
ckages
that provide all headers, though above etch, with a more recent kernel. I=
n
other words, I don't know the appropriate console command to trace the pa=
ckage
to install. And, for the moment I refrain from dist upgrade.

Thanks

francesco pietra






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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:23:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Francesco Pietra <chiendarret@yahoo.com>
To: amd64 Debian <debian-amd64@lists.debian.org>,
	debian-users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Fwd: Header files amd64 etch
Message-ID: <661008.61978.qm@web58910.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
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Probably I have found the way with

apt-cache search (show) xorg-dev

V 1:7.1.0-16

fp

--- Francesco Pietra <chiendarret@yahoo.com> wrote:


> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:00:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Francesco Pietra <chiendarret@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Header files amd64 etch
> To: debian-users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>,=20
>     debian64 <debian-amd64@lists.debian.org>

>=20

> A mixed compilation (ifort/gcc 4.1.2) of Amber9 on amd64 etch
> dual-core-opterons (Linux deb32 2.6.18-3-k7 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 17:23:11 U=

TC

> 2006
> i686 GNU/Linux)
> requests the following header files;

>=20

> WcActCB.c:22:28: error: X11/IntrinsicP.h: No such file or directory
> WcActCB.c:29:24: error: X11/ShellP.h: No such file or directory

>=20
>=20

> as the single errors out of an enormous number of modules that passed "=

make".
>=20

> As a beginner in compilations, I would appreciate being instructed how =

to

> find
> the appropriate (64bit if they differ from 32bit) headers. I have seen
> packages
> that provide all headers, though above etch, with a more recent kernel.=

 In

> other words, I don't know the appropriate console command to trace the
> package
> to install. And, for the moment I refrain from dist upgrade.

>=20

> Thanks

>=20

> francesco pietra

>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20

> =20

>
_________________________________________________________________________=
___________

> Bored stiff? Loosen up...=20
> Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
> http://games.yahoo.com/games/front

>=20



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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 11:11:56 +0200
From: Marko Randjelovic <marel@sbb.co.yu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: amd64 Debian <debian-amd64@lists.debian.org>,
	debian-users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Header files amd64 etch
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Francesco Pietra wrote:

> Probably I have found the way with
> 
> apt-cache search (show) xorg-dev
> 
> V 1:7.1.0-16
> 
> fp
> 


I don't think so. Try this:


mr@main:~$ apt-file search X11/IntrinsicP.h
libxt-dev: usr/include/X11/IntrinsicP.h
mr@main:~$ apt-file search X11/ShellP.h
libxt-dev: usr/include/X11/ShellP.h

So, you need package libxt-dev.


Do you need help?X

Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:54:42 +0530
From: Kushal Kumaran <kushal@it.iitb.ac.in>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Header files amd64 etch
Message-ID: <20070630092442.GA24232@it.iitb.ac.in>
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On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 11:00:52PM -0700, Francesco Pietra wrote:

> A mixed compilation (ifort/gcc 4.1.2) of Amber9 on amd64 etch
> dual-core-opterons (Linux deb32 2.6.18-3-k7 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 17:23:11 UTC 2006
> i686 GNU/Linux)
> requests the following header files;
> 
> WcActCB.c:22:28: error: X11/IntrinsicP.h: No such file or directory
> WcActCB.c:29:24: error: X11/ShellP.h: No such file or directory
> 
> 
> as the single errors out of an enormous number of modules that passed "make".
> 
> As a beginner in compilations, I would appreciate being instructed how to find
> the appropriate (64bit if they differ from 32bit) headers. I have seen packages
> that provide all headers, though above etch, with a more recent kernel. In
> other words, I don't know the appropriate console command to trace the package
> to install. And, for the moment I refrain from dist upgrade.
> 


You need the apt-file package.  Install apt-file:
aptitude install apt-file

Update its lists:
apt-file update

Search away:
apt-file search X11/ShellP.h

libxt-dev turns up.

-- 
Kushal Kumaran                               kushal@it.iitb.ac.in



Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:54:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Francesco Pietra <chiendarret@yahoo.com>
To: Marko Randjelovic <marel@sbb.co.yu>,
	debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
Cc: amd64 Debian <debian-amd64@lists.debian.org>,
	debian-users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Header files amd64 etch
Message-ID: <8642.50675.qm@web58903.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Marko:
Thanks. The installation of xorg-dev includes libxt-dev.

Though, "make" failed again. I have been instructed to first carry out a =
serial
installation, and parallel only after serial is OK. If not else because
parallel does not compile all modules.

However, the configure command line=20

 ./configure -static ifort_x86_64

implies that gcc is taken from the system. If I understand, gcc is not pr=
epared
to furnish static libraries (not checked). Why things are not set up for =
a
homogeneous compilation (intel provides *.a libraries) is not clear to me=
. The
parallel compilation will be homogenous, with intels for fortran, C and C=
++ for
bothe amber and openmpi.

Cheers

francesco


--- Marko Randjelovic <marel@sbb.co.yu> wrote:


> Francesco Pietra wrote:
> > Probably I have found the way with
> >=20
> > apt-cache search (show) xorg-dev
> >=20
> > V 1:7.1.0-16
> >=20
> > fp
> >=20

>=20

> I don't think so. Try this:

>=20
>=20

> mr@main:~$ apt-file search X11/IntrinsicP.h
> libxt-dev: usr/include/X11/IntrinsicP.h
> mr@main:~$ apt-file search X11/ShellP.h
> libxt-dev: usr/include/X11/ShellP.h

>=20

> So, you need package libxt-dev.

>=20
>=20

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>=20
>=20



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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 11:48:25 +0100
From: William Pursell <bill.pursell@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Gray <sweetandy@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Updating without Apt
Message-ID: <468634F9.4020605@gmail.com>
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Andrew Gray wrote:

> My name is Andrew, and I use Debian Lenny on an x86 machine.
> 
> I love Debian. I love apt. The Debian/Apt combination has allowed me to 
> use software I would have never before dreamed to be possible to use. 
> I'm quite content with my system at the moment. My problem comes when a 
> piece of software that I use with frequency is updated by the developers 
> in a major way. The Debian repositories do not reflect this change, and 
> likely won't for some time.
> 
> The software in question is emacs22. 


I would be surprised if a major update to emacs weren't in
sid within a few days, if not hours.



> Currently I have it compiled in my 
> home directory at ~/source/emacs/, where I run it directly out of the 
> src directory. I dare not "make install", or my apt install will be 
> permanently harmed and/or it won't work and I will be faced with a 
> crippled, non-running version of emacs on my system. Not only that, but 
> with this compilation I was able to enable GTK for the X11 run of emacs. 
> I loved having that kind of flexibility with my compilation.
> 
> Is there anything I can do to ensure that if I did a make install it 
> wouldn't affect my current install or something like that?


As was suggested else-thread, you can probably do:
configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install.
(I'm not an emacs user, so the build may be more complicated
than that, but this will very likely work.)  In fact, /usr/local
is the defaul prefix, so you don't even need that.  In other
words, you can make install, since it will install to /usr/local/bin,
rather than /usr/bin and not interfere with the version installed
via apt at all.  If you want to test it more carefully, try

make DESTDIR=/tmp/foo install

and examine the resulting tree in /tmp/foo.  You should only get
executables in /usr/local/bin.

However, you might want to look into apt pinning.  This allows
you to pull emacs from sid without requiring you to update your
entire system to sid, and will give you the updates more
quickly.  Or, you can simply download the .deb files from
sid and install them with dpkg.  If the upstream is truly
not showing up in sid for too long, that won't work.  If
that is the case, you can grab the .dsc from sid and make
the modifications yourself to create a newer deb.



Date:  Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:15:49 +0200
From: Miernik <public@miernik.name>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  running iceweasel on remote host seems wrong
Message-ID:  <20070630111549.54D9.2.NOFFLE@debian107.local>

Strange problem. I have two debian machines, one local at home, and one
remote somewhere. At home I am connected behind a NAT, and the remote
machine has a public IP.

I want to run iceweasel on the remote machine, and let it display on my
local machine. I have iceweasels installed on both machines.

So from the local machine I do:

ssh -Cv user@remote.machine.name.tld -X

After a while I get a prompt of the remote machine, looks OK, ls gives
me listing of files on that machine.

env shows DISPLAY=localhost:10.0

So I run 'iceweasel' there. And after some time I get it displayed,
but... it seems that it runs it somehow on my local machine, for example
file:///
displays the root directory of my local machine, not the remote one, and
when I browse, with tcpdump I see HTTP traffic, and not SSH traffic as I
expected.

I don't understand it. How I am supposed to run iceweasel on the remote
machine (using only the local display), so it would work as it would be
sitting at the remote machine?

-- 
Miernik
http://miernik.name/

Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:25:23 +0100
From: Chris Lale <chrislale@untrammelled.co.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: No Sound After Playing XMMS
Message-ID: <46863DA3.3020501@untrammelled.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

TW wrote:

> Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:

>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 11:51:29AM -0600, TW wrote:
>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>    After playing music with the XMMS application, I seem to be unable
>>> to hear sound after closing the XMMS app and going to watch videos at
>>> Google Video (or anywhere else on the web).  I've looked over the net
>>> and couldn't find the answer to this.  The sound is fine, but, after
>>> listening to XMMS audio, I have to log out (and back in) in order to
>>> hear sound over the internet.  The reverse isn't a problem, though,
>>> meaning that I can listen to Google Video and then play XMMS without
>>> problems.  What am I missing?  Thanks in advance.  ~Telly
>>>     
>>
>> esd getting in the way?
>>
>> How is your XMMS configured? ALSA? Esd?
>>
>>   

> It was configured with OSS.  ~Telly
> 
> 


XMMS should still work with Alsa in Etch even when it is configured for OSS (the
default). Other apps may be affected by the underlying problem eg Audacity.

A similar problem was resolved in the recent thread "Some ALSA apps stopped
working" [1].

I suggest that you check that /dev/dsp exists:

	# file /dev/dsp
	/dev/dsp: ERROR: cannot open `/dev/dsp' (No such file or directory)

If you get an error, re-create it and check again:

	# modprobe snd_pcm_oss

	# file /dev/dsp
	/dev/dsp: character special (14/3)

Check that XMMS now works even when configured fo OSS.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/06/msg02712.html

-- 
Chris.

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