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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1873

Today's Topics: 

  Re: FileSystem Question               [ Douglas Allan Tutty  ]
  Re: FileSystem Question               [ "Manon Metten"  ]
  Re: How to move the master boot reco  [ Nigel Henry  ]
  Re: FileSystem Question               [ William Pursell  ]
  Re: Mailing list problems with Thund  [ Kamaraju S Kusumanchi 

Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:00:53 -0400


From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: FileSystem Question

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On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 05:29:58PM +0000, Manon Metten wrote:

> On 6/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 06:45:03PM +0000, Manon Metten wrote:
> >
> >I've never used it but you can probably use a CVS repository for this
> >more conveniently.
> 
> I don't know nothing about CVS repositories. Can you explain a little
> more, please?

Hi Manon,



See the apt descriptions for subversion and cvs.  From the description
of cvs:

	CVS is a version control system, which allows you to keep old
	versions of files (usually source code), keep a log of who,
	when, and why changes occurred, etc.

Do you need help?X

As I understand it, a user will 'check out' a file from the cvs to work
on it.  While it is 'checked out', others can read that version of the
file but they can't 'check it out' to edit it.  The person who has it
checked out can then check the file back in with whatever changes they
made.  The cvs then keeps diffs and checkpoints so that the state of the
repository at any point in time can be recreated.  I.e. the question
"what did that file look like on June 15?" is a valid question that the
cvs can answer.



The whole cvs sits on top of a regular file system.  There's nothing
preventing root from directly editing a file owned by cvs.



I think that there are web-based interfaces to the cvs so that files can
be retreived over https as well.



This is all I know about cvs and it may not be accurate.  



Doug.



Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:04:55 -0400


From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Mounting USB HDs the same every time.

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On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 02:45:59PM -0400, Eric A. Bonney wrote:

>    I have 4 USB hard drives on my server in my basement.  The power 
> went out the other night for about 30 seconds and when the server came 
> back online, most of my Samba shares where messed up.  I figured out 
> what happened was that the drives were not initialized in the same order 
> as they were when I setup the shares.  Now a drive that used to be 
> /media/usb0 was say /media/usb1.
> 
> So I have to go back and reconfigure my samba.conf file, not a huge 
> deal, but still a pia.  Is there anyway to make it so that the drives 
> will always be named correctly upon rebooting of the server and 
> mounted?  I think it needs to be done in fstab is that correct?  The 
> other issue I have is that I always have to actually click on each drive 
> before it is able to be used by anyone else.  Not sure why, but I don't 
> think the drives are getting mounted at bootup.
> 
Do you need more help?X

Use volume label names.  Name the volume with the tools for the specific
filesystem (ext2, JFS, etc) then use LABEL= in fstab and with the mount
command.  The the respective man pages.



Doug.



Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:17:55 -0500


From: "will trillich" <will@serensoft.com>
To: diode <dwbatey@gmail.com>


Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: rock solid

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Can we help you?X

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typical debian server--



i logged in, connected to an old, neglected SCREEN session, and this
was still on the screen:



# uptime


 20:30:17 up 15 days,  6:11,  2 users,  load average: 0.76, 0.24, 0.08
will@tp2fi:/etc


       Fri Jan 05 20:30:17


Can't find what you're looking for?X

and then just for symmetry i added:



# uptime


 15:42:12 up 190 days, 23:42,  2 users,  load average: 1.05, 1.05, 1.00
will@tp2fi:/etc


       Sat Jun 30 15:42:12


#



ho hum, serves files, backs up, yada yada, all in a year's work.


-- 
will trillich
"Gratitude is riches. Complaint is poverty." -- Doris Von Kappelhoff


Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:50:26 -0400
From: Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Apache: The requested URL / was not found on this server.
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On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 06:17:30PM +0100, Nick Adie wrote:

> On 6/30/07, Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >Thursday afternoon I reinstalled my i386 Debian installation as amd64
> >(To compliment my Core 2 Duo), and everything's been working pretty good
> >so far (Minus 3d rendering, but that's another story), but I'm having
> >one serious problem in Apache.
> >
> >I reinstalled Apache2 and libapache2-mod-php5, and restored my old
> >/etc/apache2 configuration files, but I'm getting the error
> >
> >> The requested URL / was not found on this server.
> >
> >If you need any of my configuration files just ask, the only one that I
> >figure would effect anything would be
> >/etc/apache2/sites-available/default, so here is my config:
> >
> > [cut config file]
> >

>

> Michael,
> 
> I had a deal of trouble ut here is my solution:
> 
> [cut config file]
> 
> But remember you need to link 'available' to enabled, here's part of the
> script that I used.
> 
> Regards
> Nick
> 


That was it, I removed sites-enabled and symbolically linked
sites-available to sites-enabled, then restarted Apache and it began to
work. I guess maybe this is a repercussion from moving my /etc from my
i386 install to my amd64 install (Not that the architecture makes any
difference, but I guess maybe moving the files broke the symbolic link).

Thanks for the help and the quick response!

- -- 
http://digital-haze.net/~pobega/ - My Website
If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative
programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they
restrict the use of these programs. 
 - Richard Stallman
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:45:52 +0000
From: "Manon Metten" <manon.metten@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FileSystem Question
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Hi Sam,

On 6/30/07, Sam Leon <leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com> wrote:

I swear I have heard of something like that for ext3.  I though it was

> ext3cow.  Took me like 30 minutes to find it on google, lol.  hmm

>


Oh my! Well, thanks again. Although ext3cow is not what I am looking for,
your effort is much appreciated. You might have hit the bull's eye.

Greetings, Manon.

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Hi Sam,<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/30/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Sam Leon</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com">leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0; margin-right: 0; margin-bottom: 0; margin-left: 0; margin-left: 0.80ex; border-left-color: #cccccc; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I swear I have heard of something like that for ext3.&nbsp; I though it was ext3cow.&nbsp; Took me like 30 minutes to find it on google, lol.&nbsp; hmm</div></blockquote><div><br>&nbsp;<br></div></div>Oh my! Well, thanks again.&nbsp;Although&nbsp;ext3cow&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;what&nbsp;I&nbsp;am looking&nbsp;for,
<br> your effort is much appreciated.&nbsp;You&nbsp;might&nbsp;have&nbsp;hit&nbsp;the&nbsp;bull&#39;s eye. <br><br>Greetings, Manon.<br><br>

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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:50:34 +0000
From: "Manon Metten" <manon.metten@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FileSystem Question
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Hi Douglas,

On 6/30/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:

See the apt descriptions for subversion and cvs.  From the description

> of cvs:
>         CVS is a version control system, which allows you to keep old
>         versions of files (usually source code), keep a log of who,
>         when, and why changes occurred, etc.

>

> <snip>

>

> The whole cvs sits on top of a regular file system.  There's nothing
> preventing root from directly editing a file owned by cvs.




Thanks for explaining Doug. I ain't got the time right now to check this
out in detail, but at first glance it surely looks useful to me.

Greetings, Manon.

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Hi Douglas,<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/30/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Douglas Allan Tutty</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:dtutty@porchlight.ca">dtutty@porchlight.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0; margin-right: 0; margin-bottom: 0; margin-left: 0; margin-left: 0.80ex; border-left-color: #cccccc; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex">
See the apt descriptions for subversion and cvs.&nbsp;&nbsp;From the description<br>of cvs:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;CVS is a version control system, which allows you to keep old<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;versions of files (usually source code), keep a log of who,
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;when, and why changes occurred, etc.<br><br>&lt;snip&gt;<br><br>The whole cvs sits on top of a regular file system.&nbsp;&nbsp;There&#39;s nothing<br>preventing root from directly editing a file owned by cvs.</blockquote>
<div><br><br>Thanks&nbsp;for explaining Doug.&nbsp;I&nbsp;ain&#39;t&nbsp;got&nbsp;the&nbsp;time&nbsp;right&nbsp;now&nbsp;to&nbsp;check&nbsp;this<br>out in detail, but  at first glance it surely looks useful to me.<br><br>Greetings, Manon.<br><br></div><br></div><br>

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Date: 30 Jun 2007 20:12:42 GMT
From: Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@mail.mcgill.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Updating without Apt
Message-ID: <slrnf8dhq7.vjb.tyler.smith@blackbart.mynetwork>

On 2007-06-30, Andrew Gray <sweetandy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>

> I was going to to a configure --prefix=/usr/local as you suggested, but 
> I made the mistake of looking through the configure file and seeing that 
> perhaps exec_prefix was the variable I wanted to change. I then figured 
> that hey, this is what people do for all the other packages, it's likely 
> to work for emacs, and gave it a shot with prefix.

>

> It's worked beautifully! Installation went flawlessly, and now I'll just 
> install slime and a few other things and get runnin'. Thanks so much Will!

>

A little late now, but I went through the same thing last week. I
wasn't sure what the best approach would be. From some very limited
experimenting it looks like you can have the apt emacs21 and a
compiled emacs22 on the same system without problem. But since stuff
is so easy to install with apt if I change my mind, to be safe I just
purged everything related to emacs (except my .emacs, of course). With
a clean setup, I then installed emacs22 from source using all the
standard settings. Took me about ten minutes. And another couple of
hours to install Auctex, ESS, and slime, but just because I was poking
around a lot figuring out how the load-path stuff works. No problems
at all so far.

Cheers,

Tyler


Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:41:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Felix Karpfen <felixk@webone.com.au>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: How to move the master boot record?
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:33:09 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:33:09 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:



> I want to do so beacuse: now I'm still using Debian Sarge, which is
> installed in hda6; I want to install Debian Etch in hda9; then when I'm
> sure that everything is all right with Etch I want to boot from hda9, s=

o

> hda6 can be formatted again.

>=20
Has anyone done this successfully?

I faced a similar problem, wrote to "linux.debian.user" for advice and
scored a zero response.

In my case I went ahead, made a backup of Sarge to a newly-created
partition, checked that I could boot into it and then ran a "dist-upgrade=
"
on my main Sarge partition.

Result:

- Etch boots and works perfectly (fortunately);

- Sarge boots (despite some "fatal" notifications during the boot);
  all the tested programs still work; the mouse does not. Running
  "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" achieved nothing.

For the record, I use LILO.

Felix Karpfen



--=20
Felix Karpfen
Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA)



Date:  Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:56:50 +0200
From: pol <linux_milano@yahoo.it>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: k3b mesure of dir size across nfs - no symb links
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pol wrote:

> K3b has just reported the selected remote directory to be more than 2 gb
> large. Yet the same mounted directory, as measured by 'du -s' on the local
> station, where k3b is running, returs about 0.5 gb only . That is the
> probable correct value, being the same that is found by 'du -s' on the
> remote machine.


Add to this that no instruction to follow symbolic links has been given 
(I hope k3b does not follow symbolic links by default)

thanks fot your hints
--
Pol



> How to fix that strange k3b behaviour?
> 
> thank you
> 
> --
> Pol

Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:28:05 +0200
From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb@tiscali.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to move the master boot record?
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On Saturday 30 June 2007 22:41, Felix Karpfen wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:33:09 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

>

> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:33:09 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> > I want to do so beacuse: now I'm still using Debian Sarge, which is
> > installed in hda6; I want to install Debian Etch in hda9; then when I'm
> > sure that everything is all right with Etch I want to boot from hda9, so
> > hda6 can be formatted again.

>

> Has anyone done this successfully?

>

> I faced a similar problem, wrote to "linux.debian.user" for advice and
> scored a zero response.

>

> In my case I went ahead, made a backup of Sarge to a newly-created
> partition, checked that I could boot into it and then ran a "dist-upgrade"
> on my main Sarge partition.

>

> Result:

>

> - Etch boots and works perfectly (fortunately);

>

> - Sarge boots (despite some "fatal" notifications during the boot);
>   all the tested programs still work; the mouse does not. Running
>   "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" achieved nothing.

>

> For the record, I use LILO.

>

> Felix Karpfen


This is going back a bit, but all my Debian installs started off as Woody 
3.0r2, and have been constantly upgraded. I had no mouse problems (ps2 mouse) 
with the 2.4.27 kernel, but moving to a 2.6.8 kernel  caused problems.

I had to add to /etc/modules a couple of modules. I can't remember in which 
order, but at first I had no mouse pointer showing at all. I modprobed one 
module, then had the mouse pointer, but couldn't move it, then modprobed the 
second module, and all was working ok. See the 2 modules below.

mousedev
psmouse

Don't know if this helps, but it fixed my problems at the time.

Nigel.



Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:05:41 +0100
From: William Pursell <bill.pursell@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FileSystem Question
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Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 05:29:58PM +0000, Manon Metten wrote:

>> On 6/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 06:45:03PM +0000, Manon Metten wrote:
>>> I've never used it but you can probably use a CVS repository for this
>>> more conveniently.
>> I don't know nothing about CVS repositories. Can you explain a little
>> more, please?

> 
> Hi Manon,
> 
> See the apt descriptions for subversion and cvs.  From the description
> of cvs:
> 	CVS is a version control system, which allows you to keep old
> 	versions of files (usually source code), keep a log of who,
> 	when, and why changes occurred, etc.
> 
> As I understand it, a user will 'check out' a file from the cvs to work
> on it.  While it is 'checked out', others can read that version of the
> file but they can't 'check it out' to edit it.  The person who has it
> checked out can then check the file back in with whatever changes they
> made.  The cvs then keeps diffs and checkpoints so that the state of the
> repository at any point in time can be recreated.  I.e. the question
> "what did that file look like on June 15?" is a valid question that the
> cvs can answer.
> 
> The whole cvs sits on top of a regular file system.  There's nothing
> preventing root from directly editing a file owned by cvs.
> 
> I think that there are web-based interfaces to the cvs so that files can
> be retreived over https as well.
> 
> This is all I know about cvs and it may not be accurate.  


Keep in mind that CVS is extremely old, and entirely obsolete.
Subversion was a new implementation of the same idea, and
did in fact address many of CVS's shortcomings.  However,
if you are going to look into using a VCS (Version Control
System) for doing backups like this, look into git.
http://git.or.cz

Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:26:47 -0700
From: Glen Pfeiffer <glen@thepfeiffers.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FileSystem Question
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On 06/30/2007 03:00 PM, William Pursell wrote:

> Keep in mind that CVS is extremely old, and entirely obsolete.
> Subversion was a new implementation of the same idea, and did
> in fact address many of CVS's shortcomings.


I second that.


> However, if you are going to look into using a VCS (Version
> Control System) for doing backups like this, look into git.
> http://git.or.cz


Care to explain why you suggest using Git. I cannot find a reason
to use it unless one needs good decentralized version control.

-- 
Glen



Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 01:42:48 +0100
From: Hans du Plooy <koffiejunkielistlurker@koffiejunkie.za.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Triple/Quad screen options
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Hi guys,

I'm Looking for your experiences using three or more monitors under 
Linux?  We use two to four screens at work (depending on our exact 
requirements).  Using two screens on a dual-head card works mostly OK, 
at least for my legitimate work needs (some things like fullscreen 
mplayer don't behave so nicely, but that's not essential), but as soon 
as you run three or more screens and have to use two graphics card, 
things get a little messy.  Xinerama, for one, breaks hardware 3D, and 
some things behave weirdly

I've looked online at cards like the Matrox G450 Quad, and wondered if 
anyone has experience running these under linux.  How well does things 
like 3D and hardwar everlay (as in MPlayer fullscreen with xv without 
trying to fullscreen over all the screens) work?

Thanks



Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:55:20 -0500
From: Sam Leon <leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Mailing list problems with Thunderbird
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Ok, I have had this problem for awhile and I can't find any info on it.  
I am using thunderbird 1.5 in testing.  All the other mailing lists that 
I have subscribed to work fine.  When I see a post that I want to 
respond to, I simply click the Reply button and it will bring up a new 
box with the message and the "To" field will be set to the correct 
mailing list. 

However with all the debian lists, if I click reply, it will open a new 
box and the "To" field will be set to the user that sent the message and 
not the debian list.  I will have to delete the users name, and then 
manually type in the correct list.  Sometimes using "Reply to all" will 
kinda work.  The original user will be in the "To" field and the list 
will be in the "CC" field, sometimes but not always. 

I don't know.  Anyone know what I am talking about?  Is this just "normal"?


Sam



Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:45:36 -0500
From: Kent West <westk@goshen.acu.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: resolv.conf wrongly gets Belkin router's address
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Bob Proulx wrote:

> Kent West wrote:
>   

>> I replaced a dead router the other day with a new Belkin F5D7230-4 
>> wireless/4-port unit.
>>     
>

> First let me say that I am not familiar with that particular piece of
> hardware.
>   

>From Wal-Mart; about $40. Wireless G Router with 4 wired ports.


>> When networking starts on my Etch box, /etc/resolv.conf gets rewritten 
>> like so:
>>
>> search hydroplatenet
>> nameserver 192.168.2.1
>> nameserver 208.180.42.68
>> nameserver 208.180.42.100
>>     
>

> I assume this interface is configured using DHCP?  Are you using
> 'resolvconf'?  What is in your /etc/network/interfaces file for that
> interface?
>   

Yes, DHCP.


> westk[@westk03]:/home/westk> cat /etc/network/interfaces
> # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)

>

> # The loopback interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback

>

> # The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian
> installation
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet dhcp


(Actually, this particular interfaces file is from a totally different
machine, but it also has the same symptoms. Also, when I booted this
machine up with a Knoppix LiveCD, it too go the bogus Belkin DNS entry
in resolv.conf. So I now know it's not machine- or Debian-specific,
although it might be Debian-derived-specific.)

>> Web browsing (and other name-dependent Intarweb Pipes stuff) is very 
>> slow with these settings, but if I comment/remove the first nameserver 
>> line, which is the address of the Belkin router, things are fine.
>>     
>

> Some routers proxy DNS information through themselves.  On the boxes I
> have seen that do this it is configurable and can be turned off.  It
> appears to me from reading your report that the Belkin box has offered
> its own address as a DNS server in addition to some upstream DNS
> server.
>   

That's the way it seems to me also, but when Belkin support told me that
their router does NOT offer its own address as a DNS server, I figured I
better double-check with other Debianistas before concluding that Belkin
support doesn't know what they're talking about.


> Inspect the Belkin client DNS configuration and see if that address
> has been added to the configuration or if there is a way to remove
> that configuration.

I don't find any such settings; here's a snapshot of the only relevant
page on the Belkin setup that I can find: 
http://www.acu.edu/~westk/belkin.jpg
> If they hear Debian GNU/Linux they will probably drop your support
> call immediately too.  Sigh.  It would be useful to crosscheck this
> with tests from other operating system clients.

Ag! I'm so dense. I'm so accustomed to being a Debian-only house that I
forgot my work laptop is dual-boot with Vista. I'll give that a shot.
Thanks!


> When you say Debian here you really should say dhcp3 client or pump or
> other specific dhcp client that you have installed.  If you don't know
> then you are probably using dhcp3.
>   

Yes, dhcp3.


> Commodity routers such as those are inexpensive.  Return yours and buy
> a different brand that works correctly and avoid the problem.
>   

Thanks for the response! I appreciate it!

-- 
Kent


Confused? Frustrated?X

Date:  Sun, 01 Jul 2007 01:02:06 -0400
From: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: Mailing list problems with Thunderbird
Message-ID:  <f67chj$ta4$1@sea.gmane.org>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding:  7Bit

Sam Leon wrote:


> Ok, I have had this problem for awhile and I can't find any info on it.
> I am using thunderbird 1.5 in testing.  All the other mailing lists that
> I have subscribed to work fine.  When I see a post that I want to
> respond to, I simply click the Reply button and it will bring up a new
> box with the message and the "To" field will be set to the correct
> mailing list.
> 
> However with all the debian lists, if I click reply, it will open a new
> box and the "To" field will be set to the user that sent the message and
> not the debian list.  I will have to delete the users name, and then
> manually type in the correct list.  Sometimes using "Reply to all" will
> kinda work.  The original user will be in the "To" field and the list
> will be in the "CC" field, sometimes but not always.
> 


According to
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/i/icedove/icedove_2.0.0.4-1/changelog
the replytolist feature is introduced since icedove 1.5.0.5-1 onwards. What
is your version of thunderbird or icedove?



> I don't know.  Anyone know what I am talking about?  Is this just
> "normal"?


This question comes up pretty frequently. Your best bet is to use
thunderbird version which has replytolist feature or install the extension
which provides this feature or use an email client which knows how to deal
with mailing lists (Ex :- kmail, mutt etc.,) or use a news reader (Ex :-
knode) to read the list via a newsgroup.

You might also want to read
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45715 which tells that this
bug has not been fixed upstream in around 7 years!

hth
raju


-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/
http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/

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