debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #1885

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1885

Today's Topics:

  Re: restarting pump (DHCP) automatic  [ Vincent Lefevre  ]
  new debian user question about mysql  [ Jaime Ventura  ]
  Re: installing a font for VT          [ Alan Ianson  ]
  Re: Kernel 2.4 on Etch                [ Thomas Jollans  ]
  Re: svn checkout via a web-browser?   [ Thomas Jollans  ]
  Re: Continuing saga of xorg restarts  [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]

Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:31:31 +0200
From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: restarting pump (DHCP) automatically when network unavailable

        at boot time

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On 2007-07-02 23:16:22 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > This doesn't work. Probably a kernel problem then. I've reported
> > the bug.
>=20
> I doubt this would be related to the kernel in any way. Since this
> works for other people I can only assume that something specific to
> your system is messed up. You will need to debug it. Sorry but that
> is the best advice I can give.

OK, I confirm that this is a problem with pump (its man page sucks and I didn't know how it should have behaved) on this particular machine.

But then, I don't see why I should use 'allow-hotplug eth0' instead of 'auto eth0'.

> Normally a dhcp client will retry. This is true of both dhcp3 and
> pump.

On my laptop, when I type "pump -i eth0" (the device exists but is down and not connected), I get the error message "Operation failed." (as expected), but "pump -i eth0" is still shown by ps. So, this confirms what you are saying.

But on the other machine (on which I have the problem I mentioned at the beginning of this thread), when I type "pump -i eth1" (again, the device exists but is down and not connected), I also get the error message "Operation failed." as expected, but "pump -i eth1" is no longer running. I think this can explain my problem if it can be confirmed on eth0 too (I'll have to try that).

Note: I do not have a /etc/pump.conf file on any machine.

> There should messages in the /var/log/syslog file with some
> information about what is happening.

I just have:

Jul 3 14:11:22 vin pumpd[2478]: PUMP: sending discover

And on June 28/29, /var/log/syslog doesn't show anything about pumpd at the time the Ethernet cable was disconnected.

> Hmm... I have had problems with pump in the past and recommend dhcp3.
> Basically dhcp3 is the ISC code and pump is the Red Hat code. In my
> experience people coming from Red Hat to Debian usually prefer pump
> because it is what they know.

In particular, this was a discussion in debian-user-french in June 2004, so with Debian users.

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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:36:06 +0200
From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: svn checkout via a web-browser?

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On 2007-07-03 13:40:47 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> Me have been struggling to access a subversion repo (svn checkout
> svn.gnome.org/svn/tracker/trunk) due to being behind a proxy server. I
> wonder if there's a way to download such repos without having an svn
> client since I can access the web with a web-browser.

Only if your web browser is a also svn client. But if it isn't, why don't you install a svn client?

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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:33:38 -0500
From: "John W. Foster" <johnwfoster@verizon.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Media Wiki 1.7 - Set-up / Install Help

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On Monday 02 July 2007 12:04, Ken Irving wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:19:15AM +0100, Nick Adie wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have installed MediaWiki 1.7 from the archive.
> >
> > The read me file is very confusing as it talks about a file that does not
> > exist and a symbolic link that appears to have no relevence.
> >
> > Has anyone experience of the installation/set-up of MediaWiki, and if so
> > could I have a few pointers please.
>
> I installed MediaWiki last week on a stable/etch system, and didn't seem
> to have those problems. I did have some trouble with apache v1.3, ended up
> removing it and installing apache v2; I'm not certain now that that was
> really related to MediaWiki, though. My main confusion was in getting
> mysql installed and (minimally) configured, but once I set the mysql root
> password -- and gave it to the mediawiki installer -- the mediawiki
> installation completed without more headaches.
>
> There's a note to the effect that (for some reason...) mediawiki has to
> install under /var/lib/mediawiki1.7/, and that's where the wiki repository
> is.
>
> There's a config/ directory in the repository, and that's where the
> installation web page sits; once the installation is done that directory
> can be deleted.
>
> I was a bit taken aback by a particular sentence in the install page,
> related to the mysql configuration:
>
> This account will not be created if it pre-exists. If this is the
> case, ensure that it has SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE and DELETE permissions
> on the MediaWiki database.
>
> "Pre-exists"? Is that different from "exists"? I think the "pre-" could
> be omitted for the intended purpose. In any case, this refers to having
> the mediawiki installer set up the database, for which it needs the db's
> root password; if so inclined & able, you could "pre-" set this up and so
> not need to hand over that root password.
>
> Maybe the confusion is here:
>
> To complete the installation, please do the following:
>
> 1. Move /var/lib/mediawiki1.7/config/LocalSettings.php to
> /var/lib/mediawiki1.7/LocalSettings.php for normal install,
> root of your install for multisite, with rights 640
>
> There's presumably somem reason this isn't done automatically by the
> installer, but here you're just relocating the setup script generated
> by the installer. Somewhere else there's a suggestion to create a
> symlink to this setup script into /etc/mediawiki1.7/; this just puts
> the script into the more conventional /etc/ tree, which makes sense
> -- not sure why this isn't done automatically, but maybe it has to do
> with single- or multi-wiki sites...
>
> Hope this helps...
>
> Ken
>
> --
> Ken Irving, fnkci@uaf.edu

---

I had the same problem as Nick when I recently installed Mediawiki as a single user system on a etch box. I did something similar to Ken's suggestion, only I used syslinks (which were there but not properly connected) instead of moving the files. I did also have a disconnected syslink after I got MW working to AdminSettings.php. I have been unable to figure out what/where I should link this to. Any ideas? I have seen this problem only rarely and an explanation in the Readme file would be very helpful (hint,hint, to developer)
Thanks!

-- 
John W. Foster

Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:27:04 -0300 From: Cassiano Bertol Leal <cassianoleal@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Automounting USB drive on GNOME stopped working... Message-ID: <468A4EA8.7050601@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bob Proulx escreveu:
> Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote:
>> Ron Johnson escreveu:
>>> Have you run "tail -n40 -f /var/log/syslog" while plugging in the pen
>>> drives? Or is that what you mean by "it will load the drivers and
>>> assign a /dev/sd* node"?
>> I will have a look at syslog when I get back home. I have monitored
>> /var/log/messages and that's where I watched the pendrive and the MP3
>> being recognized and and the /dev/sd* being assigned to them.
>
> /var/log/messages is a subset of /var/log/syslog suitable for people
> who are used to other systems but syslog is the superset of all log
> files. I would get used to looking in /var/log/syslog and forget
> about /var/log/messages. But in this case you probably saw all of the
> same messages that are logged to syslog.
>
> The configuration is that *.* matches everything and everything goes
> into /var/log/syslog. *.=info;*.=notice;*.=warn; auth,authpriv.none;
> cron,daemon.none; mail,news.none matches somewhat less and goes into
> /var/log/messages.
This is great. I actually knew about it, but had forgotten. I once had to fiddle around with where the loggings would go to, because I was suffering from little disk space in a server with too much logging.
>> Also, there's the fact that a simple 'pmount /dev/sda1' (for example) or
>> a 'mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/whatever' will mount the drives with
>> no problems whatsoever.
>
> I am imagining that you have told Gnome to ignore the USB drive. This
> could be checked pretty easily by creating a test user such as test1
> or guest or some such and then logging in as that new user. If it
> works for the pristine user's environment then you know that the
> configuration issue is specific to gnome and specific to your
> $HOME/.gnome*something files.
This is a good test. I will try it when I get back home. Also, would gnome-mount be a requirement for the kind of behaviour I am expecting? I didn't have the chance to check if I do have it installed, but it seems that it's not a dependency of gnome-volume-manager, so I might not have it. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGik6nq4Bz51JiUuERApCJAKC9Pky2ezMcteRsmqu/OrtbqrIQxgCglYcm xnAlZajj/B/7rXTtxxqOcSY= =lpJM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:20:39 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: FileSystem Question Message-ID: <20070703132039.GA7980@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:39:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 06/29/07 17:54, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> >It sounds like the Log File System (LFS) that NetBSD is working on, or
> >the database-style of a mainframe where every 'file' is really a record
> >in a database where back copies are maintained until the space is
> >needed.
>
> No. It is file versioning, which OpenVMS has had since the late
> 1970s.
That's what I meant by "database-style of a mainframe". It may not be an actual database built on-top of a filesystem, but the ideas behind it are the same.
>Extremely useful, for every reason that OP mentioned.
>
I agree. How does one implement it under *NIX? I've only _needed_ it a couple of times and used Postgresql to do it. Having it available simply would be useful and I would use it more. Under postgres, I had a python CLI or dialog front-end. Ask for a copy of the file (default to the most recent version) and you get a file to edit. Post that file back to the system and it gets assigned a new version number that integrates it into the version tree. I.e. if the current version was 3 and I requested version 2 to edit, when posted it became version 2.1. The files existed in a directory in the user's home directory and it was up to the user to not go and edit a file directly.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files-11
>
> NODE"user pass"::device:[dir.subdir]filename.type;ver
>
> Every file has a version number, which defaults to 1 if no
> other versions of the same filename are present (otherwise
> one higher than the greatest version). Every time a file is
> saved, rather than overwriting the existing version, a new
> file with the same name but an incremented version number is
> created. Old versions are can be deleted explicitly, with the
> DELETE or the PURGE command, or optionally, older versions of
> a file can be deleted automatically when the file's version
> limit is reached (set by SET FILE/VERSION_LIMIT). Old versions
> are thus not overwritten, but are kept on disk and may be
> retrieved at any time. The architectural limit on version
> numbers is 32767. The versioning behavior is easily overridden
> if it is unwanted. In particular, files which are directly
> updated, such as databases, do not create new versions unless
> explicitly programmed.
>
Ron, from what I've read over the years, there are a lot of features from the mainframe world that would be very useful in the NIX world. Someone here with experience in both said that the mainframes were only useful now for large batch jobs; that as servers it was cheaper to use NIX boxes. That may or may not be so but there's a lot we can learn from the mainframe world. However, for those of us who haven't had the priveledge of experiencing that world, it remains viewed 'as through a mirror dimly'. Doug.

Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:12:26 +0100 From: "Karl E. Jorgensen" <karl@jorgensen.org.uk> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: FileSystem Question Message-ID: <20070703141226.GA15303@einstein.jorgensen.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 09:20:39AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:39:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 06/29/07 17:54, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> > >It sounds like the Log File System (LFS) that NetBSD is working on, or
> > >the database-style of a mainframe where every 'file' is really a record
> > >in a database where back copies are maintained until the space is
> > >needed.
> >=20
> > No. It is file versioning, which OpenVMS has had since the late=20
> > 1970s. =20
>=20
> That's what I meant by "database-style of a mainframe". It may not be
> an actual database built on-top of a filesystem, but the ideas behind it
> are the same.
>=20
> >Extremely useful, for every reason that OP mentioned.
> >=20
>=20
> I agree. How does one implement it under *NIX? I've only _needed_ it a
> couple of times and used Postgresql to do it. Having it available
> simply would be useful and I would use it more. Under postgres, I had a
> python CLI or dialog front-end. Ask for a copy of the file (default to
> the most recent version) and you get a file to edit. Post that file
> back to the system and it gets assigned a new version number that
> integrates it into the version tree. I.e. if the current version was 3
> and I requested version 2 to edit, when posted it became version 2.1.
> The files existed in a directory in the user's home directory and it was
> up to the user to not go and edit a file directly.
Perhaps WebDAV and subversion will do the trick then? IIRC webdav should be available somewhere as a fuse filesystem. So if=20 you set up a subversion server with mod_dav, mod_dav_fs and mod_dav_svn=20 and point your FUSE filesystem at it, it might just work? Just my 2p.. (or 5 =F8re with the wrong exchange rate...) --=20 Karl E. Jorgensen karl(at)jorgensen.org.uk http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/ karl(at)jorgensen.com http://karl.jorgensen.com =3D=3D=3D=3D Today's fortune: You don't have to know how the computer works, just how to work the compute= r. --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGillKi+PVvwZpXJgRAgFYAKCD9Z61OnosQT1hHJe/YWcMZgwhQACeO0g+ sqcVoSjk0RU3Fb1rxSy7r4g= =iARj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu--

Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:26:40 +0200 From: "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <tshepang@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: svn checkout via a web-browser? Message-ID: <857993970707030726k7ab6a2c5le5904426f6327be9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 7/3/07, Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org> wrote:
> On 2007-07-03 13:40:47 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> > Me have been struggling to access a subversion repo (svn checkout
> > svn.gnome.org/svn/tracker/trunk) due to being behind a proxy server. I
> > wonder if there's a way to download such repos without having an svn
> > client since I can access the web with a web-browser.
>
> Only if your web browser is a also svn client. But if it isn't, why
> don't you install a svn client?
I failed: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00075.html And help didn't help: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00162.html -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com

Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:30:08 -0700 From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: installing a font for VT Message-id: <200707030730.08942.agianson@gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline On Tue July 3 2007 05:41:44 am 2g wrote:
> have started going CUI with Debian(stable)
> in Slackware it gave me a chance to choose
> sc.fnt.gz as my VT's font at the insallation process
> i love this font so much so would love to have it in Debian too
>
> does somebody know what this font is called in Debian community?
> does simply aptitude intall-ing it will change the look of the terminal
> automatically?
When I want to change the font with debian I edit /etc/console-tool/config. In my case I know I want default8x16 so it is easy for me. I don't know what choices are available or where they are. There likely is a tool for manipulating the console font but I've never gone looking myself.

Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:35:56 +0100 From: Jaime Ventura <jaimeventura@ipp.pt> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: new debian user question about mysql on debian Message-ID: <468A5ECC.8070401@ipp.pt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello I've install mysql on a etch box e I've noticed a debian-sys-maint user. Shouldnt this user have grant privileges? Aparently it does: mysql> select Grant_priv from user where User="debian-sys-maint"; +------------+ | Grant_priv | +------------+ | Y | +------------+ 1 row in set (0.00 sec) But when i do the following with that user(after login with the right credentials): webserver:~/vhcs-2.4.7.1# mysql -u debian-sys-maint -p Enter password: Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. Your MySQL connection id is 53 Server version: 5.0.32-Debian_7etch1-log Debian etch distribution Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer. mysql> grant all on *.* to 'vhcs2'@'localhost' identified by 'teste' with grant option; ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES) mysql> grant all on vhcs2.* to 'vhcs2'@'localhost' identified by 'teste' with grant option; ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' to database 'vhcs2' Thanks in advance

Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:57:09 -0700 From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: installing a font for VT Message-id: <200707030757.10011.agianson@gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline On Tue July 3 2007 07:30:08 am Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Tue July 3 2007 05:41:44 am 2g wrote:
> > have started going CUI with Debian(stable)
> > in Slackware it gave me a chance to choose
> > sc.fnt.gz as my VT's font at the insallation process
> > i love this font so much so would love to have it in Debian too
> >
> > does somebody know what this font is called in Debian community?
> > does simply aptitude intall-ing it will change the look of the terminal
> > automatically?
>
> When I want to change the font with debian I edit /etc/console-tool/config.
> In my case I know I want default8x16 so it is easy for me. I don't know
> what choices are available or where they are. There likely is a tool for
> manipulating the console font but I've never gone looking myself.
I don't see sc.fnt.gz but I see a lot of fonts in /usr/share/consolefonts. Happy hunting.. :)

Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:24:59 +0200 From: Thomas Jollans <thomas@jollans.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4 on Etch Message-Id: <200707031725.03439.thomas@jollans.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2464453.M0sHFfTeZ7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart2464453.M0sHFfTeZ7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote:
> Is there any simple way of making kernel 2.4 and 2.6 coexist in Debian
> Etch? I know a lot of complicated ways :) but I need version 2.4 to test
> old kernel modules.
I suggest that if you want to use old kernel-level software, you use an=20 adequately old OS, e.g. sarge. (as Kumar indirectly pointed out,=20 http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.ht= ml#s-incompatible-2.4=20 looks like this is actually as good as impossible) =2D-=20 Regards, Thomas Jollans GPG key: 0xF421434B may be found on various keyservers, eg pgp.mit.edu Hacker key <http://hackerkey.com/>: v4sw6+8Yhw4/5ln3pr5Ock2ma2u7Lw2Nl7Di2e2t3/4TMb6HOPTen5/6g5OPa1XsMr9p-7/-6 --nextPart2464453.M0sHFfTeZ7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQBGimpPJpinDvQhQ0sRAtTkAJUVl8RiER1KmVsMKp2pOJmSlMppAJ9uP1fC IxfN4mhdfe0nwgpi60kVTw== =UYoU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2464453.M0sHFfTeZ7--

Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:29:08 +0200 From: Thomas Jollans <thomas@jollans.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: svn checkout via a web-browser? Message-Id: <200707031729.09041.thomas@jollans.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1752122.iAemABBixm"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart1752122.iAemABBixm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> On 7/3/07, Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org> wrote:
> > On 2007-07-03 13:40:47 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> > > Me have been struggling to access a subversion repo (svn checkout
> > > svn.gnome.org/svn/tracker/trunk) due to being behind a proxy server. I
> > > wonder if there's a way to download such repos without having an svn
> > > client since I can access the web with a web-browser.
> >
> > Only if your web browser is a also svn client. But if it isn't, why
> > don't you install a svn client?
>
> I failed: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00075.html
> And help didn't help:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00162.html
[guessing] "GSSAPI authentication error" =E2=80=94 are http-proxy-username and=20 http-proxy-password correctly set ? =2D-=20 Regards, Thomas Jollans GPG key: 0xF421434B may be found on various keyservers, eg pgp.mit.edu Hacker key <http://hackerkey.com/>: v4sw6+8Yhw4/5ln3pr5Ock2ma2u7Lw2Nl7Di2e2t3/4TMb6HOPTen5/6g5OPa1XsMr9p-7/-6 --nextPart1752122.iAemABBixm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGimtFJpinDvQhQ0sRAmNtAJ4xPQVcmymh8lZt6Thrg10peBJKrQCdFgso +kXgj3bBtfNcjpQw9mfLUig= =YoaS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1752122.iAemABBixm--

Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:29:40 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Continuing saga of xorg restarts Message-ID: <20070703152938.GU12665@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jWL1oGPK2mPq0rME" Content-Disposition: inline --jWL1oGPK2mPq0rME Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 11:07:04PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> Per Andrew's advice, I started X in VT1 using startx. During each of the
> multiple xorg crashes today (!) I got this:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Backtrace:
> 0: /usr/bin/X11/X(xf86SigHandler+0x81) [0x80c8591]
> 1: [0xb7f36420]
> 2: /usr/bin/X11/X [0x80ddae5]
> 3: /usr/bin/X11/X(miHandleValidateExposures+0x78) [0x813b828]
> 4: /usr/bin/X11/X(MapWindow+0x3aa) [0x807b6da]
> 5: /usr/bin/X11/X(ProcMapWindow+0x59) [0x808e689]
> 6: /usr/bin/X11/X [0x8154a21]
> 7: /usr/bin/X11/X(Dispatch+0x19f) [0x808ed3f]
> 8: /usr/bin/X11/X(main+0x495) [0x8076e85]
> 9: /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc) [0xb7d49ebc]
> 10: /usr/bin/X11/X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x1e5) [0x80761a1]
>=20
> Fatal server error:
> Caught signal 11. Server aborting
>=20
> xinit: connection to X server lost.
>=20
I've seen some xorg crashes lately too... mostly caused by mplayer, but not reliably. I'll grab my backtrace too.=20
>=20
> I will confess that I have no idea what to do with that. Item 10 almost
> seems to imply a font problem, but I suspect that's just a red herring. =
As
> before, any suggestions appreciated.
contact the xorg team (Debian X strike force?) and see what they say... A --jWL1oGPK2mPq0rME Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGimtiaIeIEqwil4YRAvHCAJ9aSq6MxUAcLRXU8qrelACezelchwCgh23K +RM5BrXVeSKSat3c60Xrgfc= =ZPb2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jWL1oGPK2mPq0rME--

Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:05:01 -0500 From: John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: FileSystem Question Message-ID: <87ps39le8y.fsf@toncho.dhh.gt.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> That's what I meant by "database-style of a mainframe". It may not be
> an actual database built on-top of a filesystem, but the ideas behind it
> are the same.
> ...
> I agree. How does one implement it under *NIX?
Perhaps AFS might do some of what you want. -- John Hasler End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #1885 ************************************************** Received on Tue Jul 3 11:50:51 2007