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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1891

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Why apache do not respct charset  [ Vladimir Strycek  ]
  Re: svn checkout via a web-browser?   [ "Karl E. Jorgensen"  ]
  Re: aptitude 0.4.4-4+b1 is very slow  [ Frank McCormick 

Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 10:25:30 +0200


From: Vladimir Strycek <vladoportos@vladoportos.sk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Why apache do not respct charset on web page ?

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Kumar Appaiah  wrote / nap=EDsal(a):

> On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 04:46:25AM +0200, Vladimir Strycek wrote:
>  =20
>> Installed debian on mine second pc with apache and everything but all=20
>> www pages start have the same issue.
>>
>> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwind=

ows-1250">

>>
>> but apache do not respect this and i have "?" insted of special charac=

ters

>> on another box where i have gentoo or on windows its workig just fine.
>>    =20
>
> Are you sure it's a HTTP header issue with Apache? Did you try
> changing the encoding at the client (browser) manually?
>
> The meta tag is embedded in a HTML page, so it can't influence the
> HTTP headers, AFAIK. So, it's either something wrong at the client, or
> with your Apache config.
>
> See AddCharset and AddDefaultCharset in the Apache docs for some
> hints.
>
> HTH.

>
> Kumar
>  =20


Hi,



it seems that it s problem with apache cause i tried IE and Fire fox on=20
3 different pcs wit the same results, when i change encoding manualy in=20
Firefox or IE it works fine... also on another apache installation on=20
another linux it working fine without change....


Do you need help?X

Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:40:24 +0200


From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_B=E4chler?= <linux@boeser.ch>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: kile

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>  In testing, kile has been removed. It appears that texlive is
>  undergoing a reorganization. As a result, kile's dependencies are at
>  odds with the new organization. When will kile be returned to the
>  distribution?

I started using eclipse with a LaTeX-plugin (or whatever you call it).
It works quite fine.



Sam



Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 10:13:39 +0100


From: "Karl E. Jorgensen" <karl@jorgensen.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Why apache do not respct charset on web page ?
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On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 10:25:30AM +0200, Vladimir Strycek wrote:

> Kumar Appaiah  wrote / nap=EDsal(a):
> >On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 04:46:25AM +0200, Vladimir Strycek wrote:
> > =20
> >>Installed debian on mine second pc with apache and everything but all=

=20

> >>www pages start have the same issue.
> >>
> >><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindo=

ws-1250">

> >>
> >>but apache do not respect this and i have "?" insted of special charact=

ers

> >>on another box where i have gentoo or on windows its workig just fine.
> >>   =20
> >
> >Are you sure it's a HTTP header issue with Apache? Did you try
> >changing the encoding at the client (browser) manually?
> >
> >The meta tag is embedded in a HTML page, so it can't influence the
> >HTTP headers, AFAIK. So, it's either something wrong at the client, or
> >with your Apache config.
> >
> >See AddCharset and AddDefaultCharset in the Apache docs for some
> >hints.
> >
> >HTH.

> >
> >Kumar
> > =20
> Hi,
>=20
> it seems that it s problem with apache cause i tried IE and Fire fox on=

=20

> 3 different pcs wit the same results, when i change encoding manualy in=

=20

> Firefox or IE it works fine... also on another apache installation on=20
> another linux it working fine without change....

What does Firefox say about the page in View -> Page Information? (does=20
IE have anything equivalent? Haven't used it for 8 years...)



HTML Meta tags are generally discouraged in favour proper HTTP headers. =20
If the HTTP header says one thing, and the HTML document says something=20
else, what's a browser to do?



I suspect that the browsers are getting confused by having both HTTP=20
headers and html meta tags.... And I wouldn't blame them either :-)



--=20


Karl E. Jorgensen

karl(at)jorgensen.org.uk  http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/
karl(at)jorgensen.com     http://karl.jorgensen.com
=3D=3D=3D=3D Today's fortune:


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Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:23:44 +0200


From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=22Miguel_J=2E_Jim=E9nez=22?= <MiguelJose.Jimenez@isotrol.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: cannot mount usb pen drive


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Hi, from some time ago I cannot mount any usb pen drive... The kernel=20
log shows:



Jul  4 12:20:04 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device=20
using uhci_hcd and address 24


Jul  4 12:20:04 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from=20
1 choice


Jul  4 12:20:04 localhost kernel: scsi7 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass=20
Storage devices


Jul  4 12:20:14 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: reset full speed USB device=20
using uhci_hcd and address 24

Jul  4 12:20:16 localhost last message repeated 3 times
Jul  4 12:20:17 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 24
Jul  4 12:20:17 localhost kernel: scsi 7:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined -=20

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not ready after error recovery


Jul  4 12:20:17 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device=20
using uhci_hcd and address 25


Jul  4 12:20:17 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device=20
using uhci_hcd and address 26


Jul  4 12:20:18 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device=20
using uhci_hcd and address 27


Jul  4 12:20:18 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device=20
using uhci_hcd and address 28




Some time before this happen everything worked fine... Any ideas of how=20
to work around this problem?



PS. The usb device shows a few seconds while doing "lsusb" but then it=20
is gone :-(



--=20

.---------------------------------------------------------------------.
| Miguel J. Jim=E9nez                                                   |
| Programador Senior                                                  |
| =C1rea de Internet/XSL/PHP                                            |
| migueljose.jimenez@isotrol.com                                      |
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| 
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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:49:34 +0100


From: "Karl E. Jorgensen" <karl@jorgensen.org.uk>
To: debian users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: OT: knoppix memtest powers off after 35 mins
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On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 04:56:27PM -0500, Kent West wrote:

> OT for Debian, but you folks are knowledgeable ...
>=20
> Running memtest86 from a Knoppix LiveCD on an HP pavilion ze4400 laptop.=

=20

> No errors, but the laptop powers off consistently after about 35 minutes=

=20

> of testing.
Confused? Frustrated?X

Weird...


> The laptop does not power off when sitting at the Knoppix prompt (I=20
> enter some random character or two to prevent time-out default boot),=20
> nor does it power off after 35 minutes at the Windows (yech!) login=20
> prompt or within Knoppix when it's running from the LiveCD.
>=20
> I've not seen any odd behaviour when running Knoppix, and very limited=20
> oddness when running Windows (yet a couple of small things - easily=20
> attributable to Windows flakiness);=20

:-)  Difficult to tell sometimes :-)


> the guy who owns the laptop says it has frozen on him a few times and=20
>wouldn't power up once until left alone a couple of hours.

As if "it needed a rest"?=20


=20

> After spending a couple of days with the laptop, my gut instinct is that=

=20

> the hardware is fine, but this consistent auto-poweroff 35 minutes into=

=20

> a memtest86 run (with default parameters) raises a yellow flag in my brai=

n.

>=20
> Anyone have any knowledge if maybe memtest86 might be triggering a=20
> shut-down code, or if it's running into a bad memory cell?

Perhaps the poor thing is overheating?  Are the fans going during=20
memtest?=20



I presume that both Knoppix and Windows plays nice with ACPI and=20
(probably) fans, but I suspect that memtest86 couldn't care less...



Just a derailed brain...


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Karl E. Jorgensen

karl(at)jorgensen.org.uk  http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/
karl(at)jorgensen.com     http://karl.jorgensen.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 13:16:28 +0200


From: Thomas Jollans <thomas@jollans.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Why apache do not respct charset on web page ?
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On Wednesday 04 July 2007, Vladimir Strycek wrote:

> In www page is
>
> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows=

=2D1250">



That tag is information for the *browser* on how to *de*code the page... Yo=
u=20


could try to set apache up to send a Content-Type header, and omit the <met=
a>=20


tag. I doubt that would change anything though. I also think it's possible=
=20


that you need a capital W.



Are you sure you want to use an old windows code page in the internet at al=
l ?=20


I think UTF-8  is a better choice, and Wikipedia agrees with me=20
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1250>


Do you need help?X

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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:27:55 +0100


From: "Karl E. Jorgensen" <karl@jorgensen.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: svn checkout via a web-browser?
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On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 10:20:57AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:

> On 7/3/07, Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org> wrote:
> >On 2007-07-03 16:26:40 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> >> On 7/3/07, Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org> wrote:
> >>> On 2007-07-03 13:40:47 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> >>> > Me have been struggling to access a subversion repo (svn checkout
> >>> > svn.gnome.org/svn/tracker/trunk) due to being behind a proxy server=

=2E I

> >>> > wonder if there's a way to download such repos without having an svn
> >>> > client since I can access the web with a web-browser.
> >>>
> >>> Only if your web browser is a also svn client. But if it isn't, why
> >>> don't you install a svn client?
> >>
> >> I failed: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00075.html
> >> And help didn't help:
> >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00162.html
> >
> >You'll probably have the same problem with a web browser having a
> >svn client extension. With a proxy server that filters some method,
> >you can't access all the web, and changing the client won't solve
> >your problem. If you control the web server itself, perhaps you can
> >try something like SSH over HTTP (if CONNECT is allowed).
>=20
> It's interesting to note that I tried TortoiseSVN which runs on
> Windows and worked without a breeze. This leads me to think that the
> web server (which I dodn't control) does accept svn requests.
> The company network is run by Windows.

The gnome subversion repository is also available via https:
1) Did you try to use http or https with the command-line client?
2) Ditto - (but with tortoisesvn) ?



Regards


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Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:35:25 +0200


From: Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: 'file' doesn't recognize my Abiword .ode file
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Hi Celejar.



Celejar, 04.07.2007 02:18:

> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:06:57 +0200
> Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net> wrote:
>> Celejar, 25.06.2007 16:40:
>>> 'file' reports just 'data' when queried about an Abiword .odt file.
>> Abiword does not support the ODT format yet. What makes you think that=

 it did

>> save in this format?
>=20
> ??? When I open the Save Dialog and click on the Save File As Type
> button, one of the choices in the drop down list is "OpenDocument
> (.odt)", and when selected, Abi saves as an .odt file.

Now that=E2=80=99s odd. I don=E2=80=99t have that option and never had; u=
sing version 2.4.6 from


Debian stock. Double-checking =E2=80=A6 no, nowhere to be found here.


> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D383409
> =20
>>> but the discussion indicates that 'file' is
>>> reporting 'zip'.
>> Yeah, that=E2=80=99s what OpenDocuments are after all.
>=20
> Not the point; they are seeing .zip while I'm seeing data.  Why?

Seems to have been clarified in the mentioned report now.




Regards, Mathias



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Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 07:43:00 -0400


From: Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: aptitude 0.4.4-4+b1 is very slow....

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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:01:57 +0800


Magicloud Magiclouds <magicloud.magiclouds@gmail.com> wrote:


> Dear all,
>     I am using unstable brench.
>     A few days ago, apt updated, so aptitude can not be installed. 
> Yesterday, I found that aptitude was updated and can be installed, so
> I did it. Now I find out that, the new aptitude works very slow....

    It's been fixed - see the note from D Burrows in this list.


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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 13:11:01 +0100
From: "Karl E. Jorgensen" <karl@jorgensen.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: new debian user question about mysql on debian
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On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 03:35:56PM +0100, Jaime Ventura wrote:

> Hello
>    I've install mysql on a etch box e I've noticed a debian-sys-maint use=

r.

See /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.0/README.Debian.gz - it's=20
automagically created to help the init scripts and the like.


>    Shouldnt this user  have grant privileges?


Not necessarilty..


>    Aparently it does:
>=20
>=20
> mysql> select Grant_priv  from user where User=3D"debian-sys-maint";
> +------------+
> | Grant_priv |
> +------------+
> | Y          |
> +------------+
> 1 row in set (0.00 sec)


The other columns are interesting too. But unless you have changed them=20
yourself, they should be set up according to=20
/var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.0.postinst


> But when i do the following with that user(after login with the right=20
> credentials):
>=20
> webserver:~/vhcs-2.4.7.1# mysql -u debian-sys-maint -p
> Enter password:
> Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
> Your MySQL connection id is 53
> Server version: 5.0.32-Debian_7etch1-log Debian etch distribution
>=20
> Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.
>=20
> mysql> grant all on *.* to 'vhcs2'@'localhost' identified by 'teste'=20
> with grant option;
> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user=20
> 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)


The 'all' privilege probably exceeds the privileges that=20
debian-sys-maint actually possess. MySQL only allows users to grant=20
privileges to others that they possess themselves..

I think you're mis-using debian-sys-maint. It appears to be created to=20
help the init scripts and (possibly) packaging. Why not use the=20
(standard) 'root' account?

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karl(at)jorgensen.org.uk  http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/
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Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 13:20:07 +0100
From: "Karl E. Jorgensen" <karl@jorgensen.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: cannot mount usb pen drive
Message-ID: <20070704122007.GG25673@einstein.jorgensen.org.uk>
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On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 12:23:44PM +0200, "Miguel J. Jim=E9nez" wrote:

> Hi, from some time ago I cannot mount any usb pen drive... The kernel=20
> log shows:


"any" USB pen drive?  I.e. "a" or "it doesn't matter which pen drive I=20
try"

[pls don't be offended: English is not my first (or 2nd) language=20
either]


>=20
> Jul  4 12:20:04 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device=20
> using uhci_hcd and address 24
> Jul  4 12:20:04 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from=

=20

> 1 choice
> Jul  4 12:20:04 localhost kernel: scsi7 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass=20
> Storage devices
> Jul  4 12:20:14 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: reset full speed USB device=20
> using uhci_hcd and address 24
> Jul  4 12:20:16 localhost last message repeated 3 times
> Jul  4 12:20:17 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 24
> Jul  4 12:20:17 localhost kernel: scsi 7:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined -=

=20

> not ready after error recovery
> Jul  4 12:20:17 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device=20
> using uhci_hcd and address 25
> Jul  4 12:20:17 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device=20
> using uhci_hcd and address 26
> Jul  4 12:20:18 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device=20
> using uhci_hcd and address 27
> Jul  4 12:20:18 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device=20
> using uhci_hcd and address 28
>=20
>=20
> Some time before this happen everything worked fine... Any ideas of how=

=20

> to work around this problem?


So it worked before.

What changed? New packages installed? Config changes?=20

Unless the cause is "solar spots" or wear-and-tear, something must have=20
changed on the PC side of things...


> PS. The usb device shows a few seconds while doing "lsusb" but then it=20
> is gone :-(


If lsusb no longer shows it, the problem is at kernel-level or=20
hardware-level...=20

But then I'd expect more entries in the system log that says something=20
along the lines of=20

    localhost kernel: usb-4-2: USB disconnect, address 28

Anything like that in the log? If so, then the entries BETWEEN the two=20
sets might reveal some interesting information...

Does this happen regardless of which USB pen drive you try? If it only=20
happens for a certain pen drive, I'd suspect faulty "penware".. =20

--=20
Karl E. Jorgensen
karl(at)jorgensen.org.uk  http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/
karl(at)jorgensen.com     http://karl.jorgensen.com
=3D=3D=3D=3D Today's fortune:
Men are those creatures with two legs and eight hands.
		-- Jayne Mansfield

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