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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1898

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Purpose of a hypervisor (was Re:  [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  =?koi8-r?Q?install=3A_client-error-n  [ =?koi8-r?Q?=EE=C9=CB=CF=CC=C1=CA_=F ]
  Re: installer w/ RAID1, crypto        [ Sneaky56  ]
  Re: aptitude wants to remove these.   [ "H.S."  ]
  Re: Playing SMIL File                 [ Florian Kulzer  ]
  Re: OT: knoppix memtest powers off a  [ Kent West  ]
  Re: backports                         [ Florian Kulzer  ]
  Re: Sarge install image (kernel 2.4)  [ Alan Ianson  ]
  Re: Upgrade on box not on Net         [ Celejar  ]
  Re: Sarge install image (kernel 2.4) [ steef <steefvanduin@zonnet.nl> ]

Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:36:57 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Purpose of a hypervisor (was Re: rock solid) Message-ID: <20070705153657.GJ12665@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;

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	On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 09:09:02PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 07/03/07 20:53, Roberto C. S=E1nchez wrote:
> >On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 06:22:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>On 07/03/07 13:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >>>Dom0: local file server (video, music, local backups)
> >>>
> >>> DomU1: firewall
> >>I understand the need for a small, "separate" firewall.
> >>
> >>> DomU2: dmz mail/imaps server
> >>> DomU3: dmz apache server
> >>>
> >>>the primary reason is as a testbed for me to learn stuff. It has the
> >>>nice feature of segmenting functionality without more machines
> >>>running.=20
> >>But then you are trying to statically do (allocate CPU and RAM) what=20
> >>the kernel can do so much better.
> >>
> >What about that if his webserver gets hacked, then his mail server is
> >safe and vice versa?
>=20

> If you own the web server, it's likely to be "easy" to crack other=20
> machines on the network.

>=20

except to get to the other machines, there are only certain allowed ways. For example, assume, from Roberto's comment, that my webserver gets hacked. Which machines are now easier to hack?=20

Do you need help?X

Certainly nothing on my local (non-DMZ) LAN as those machines are subject to the same firewall rules as they were before. The rules from the net to local are the same as the rules from the DMZ to local.=20

Maybe the mail server is easier (how?) because you are into the DMZ, but the mail server has the same ports open as it always did: 25 and 993. So what's different.=20

I'm not asking to refute your claims, but to learn.=20

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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:38:07 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Purpose of a hypervisor (was Re: rock solid) Message-ID: <20070705153806.GK12665@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;

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On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:01:40PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 05:35:14PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> =20
> > So I maintain that its good to keep our local fire server isolated by
> > operating the DMZ in a xen vm. But I will agree that its not necessary
> > to run seperate DomU's for mail and apache. And with multiple vm's
> > running their cron jobs over night at roughly the same time, dropping
> > one vm would lessen the load significantly (in this case, 25%).=20
>=20
> Why not change the crontab on each so that they run at different times?

Because I'm inherently lazy? ;)

I did look into this and got distracted. I'll take it up again.

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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:43:34 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Purpose of a hypervisor (was Re: rock solid) Message-ID: <20070705154334.GL12665@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;

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On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:00:35PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 06:22:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 07/03/07 13:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >
> > >Dom0: local file server (video, music, local backups)
> > >
> > > DomU1: firewall
> >=20
> > I understand the need for a small, "separate" firewall.
> >=20

>=20

> Does this really give any more security than running the firewall as a
> regular part of the main box? Is it as secure as a separate old
> computer? These three (plus I suppose a commercial hardware firewall)
> seem to be the choices. How do they compare for security?

I don't really know, but the following things occur to me:

  1. its seperate and distinct, serves only one purpose, and thus is less likely to have vulnerabilities. A seperate firewall machine has so few packages installed, that it is more secure just because it has fewer possible vulnerabilities.=20
  2. the seperate machine, if it falls to some attack, is a seperate machine. That means there is one more step to be taken to get to some damaging location. Granted, once you're past the firewall, its a pretty simple step. This assumes that its the firewall that gets cracked and not some other machine behind the firewall that gets cracked.
Don't know where to look next?X

I don't think there is anything wrong with a debian machine on the net with its local firewall as the only thing protecting it. But I think if you want anything more sophisticated, some sort of seperate device is the way to go.=20

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Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:44:00 -0400
From: "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: digikam upgrade: plugins to be remove 

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Hello,

Confused? Frustrated?X

On Debian Testing, if I try to upgrade digikam, aptitude wants to remove digikamimageplugins and kipi-plugins (the actual output is further below). Now, how do I know why these removals are necessary? And how do I find out if I should go ahead with the upgrade since, maybe the new package has the two packages built-in now?

Upgrade output:


$> sudo aptitude -sV dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:

   libquicktime0 [2:0.9.7-5 -> 2:0.9.10+debian-0.3] The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:

   libkdcraw-runtime [0.1.0-2] libkdcraw0 [0.1.0-2] libkexiv2-1 [0.1.5-1+b1] The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:

   digikamimageplugins [2:0.8.2-4] kipi-plugins [0.1.2-3] The following NEW packages will be installed:

   libkdcraw-runtime [0.1.0-2] libkdcraw0 [0.1.0-2] libkexiv2-1 [0.1.5-1+b1] The following packages will be REMOVED:

   digikamimageplugins [2:0.8.2-4] kipi-plugins [0.1.2-3] The following packages will be upgraded:

   digikam [2:0.8.2-4 -> 2:0.9.2~beta3-1] 2 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 9869kB of archives. After unpacking 17.7MB will be freed. The following packages have unmet dependencies:

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   libquicktime0: Depends: libavcodec1d (>= 0.cvs20070307) which is a virtual package. 

                  Depends: libavutil1d (>= 0.cvs20070307) which is a
virtual package.
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version: digikam [2:0.8.2-4 (now)]
digikamimageplugins [2:0.8.2-4 (now)]
kipi-plugins [0.1.2-3 (testing, testing, testing, now)] libquicktime0 [2:0.9.7-5 (testing, testing, testing, now)]

Score is -28

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

thanks,
->HS

Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:30:26 +0400
From: =?koi8-r?Q?=EE=C9=CB=CF=CC=C1=CA_=F4=D2=D5=C2=CE=C9=CB=CF=D7?= <nick.trubnikov@list.ru> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: =?koi8-r?Q?install=3A_client-error-not-possible?= 

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Subject: install: client-error-not-possible Package: install
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  • Please type your report below this line *** A print error occurred. Error message received from system:
Do you need help?X

cupsdoprint -P 'HPLaserJet1022' -J 'KDE Print Test' -H=20 '/var/run/cups/cups.sock:631' -U 'root' -o '=20 multiple-document-handling=3Dseparate-documents-uncollated-copies=20 orientation-requested=3D3' '/usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps' :=20 execution failed with message:
client-error-not-possible

  • System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686 Locale: LANG=3Dru_RU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=3Dru_RU.UTF-8 (charmap=3DUTF-8)

Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:35:18 +0200
From: Sneaky56 <sneaky56@gmx.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: installer w/ RAID1, crypto 

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Sorry, but my is not very clear, so:

I tried to setup a new install (using the Lenny install CD (1)), with RAID1, crypto and LVM. Everything went fine during install and I even did execute the steps required as of (2). The only problem I got, was after the install/reboot, when the there seems to be a problem with LVM (3). I also encountered problems before with the Debian 4.0r0 CD which led me to try the Lenny CD.

(1) [Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20070629-09:05]

(2) http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/RAIDvsCrypto

(3) mount: Mounting /dev/mapper/magelan-main.root on /root failed: No such device

Do you need more help?X

Thank you for your help on this one...

        tom

Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:34:16 -0400
From: "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: aptitude wants to remove these. Do I need them? 

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Daniel Burrows wrote: 

>> When I try to upgrade my Debian Testing machine, aptitude wants to remove 
>> these packages (been happening for some days now; I have been putting off 
>> upgrading in the hope that the problem would be resolved with newer 
>> versions of packages):
>> dbus-1-utils [1.0.2-1]
>> libssp0

>
> Looks to me like dbus-1-utils has been folded into the dbus package.
> libssp0 is only available in experimental -- it's been removed from
> stable and testing. Probably it's obsolete and not needed any more?
>
> Daniel
>
>

Thanks everyone. I have proceeded with upgrading dbus. Hopefully nothing will go amiss (main concerns are auto-mounting removable devices).

->HS

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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:07:48 +0200
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Playing SMIL File 

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On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 22:11:16 -0500, Sam Leon wrote:
> Does anyone know how to play a smil slideshow in linux? I can get the=20
> audio but not the pictures in mplayer. It is some kind of realmedia form=
at=20
> I think.

Helix-player, available as a Debian package for i386 and powerpc, is capable of handling "Basic SMIL 2.0" (according to the package description; I have never had an occasion to try it myself).=20

Another thing: Please stop using replies to other list messages as a way to start new threads. Many email programs use the In-Reply-To header as the primary basis for threading; this means that your message will be included in an unrelated thread, regardless of the changed subject line. Here is what that looks like with Mutt: 

1   L 04.07.07 Tony Heal                 ( 10K) upgrading to etch
2   L 04.07.07 Sam Leon                  (0.3K) =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80>Playing =
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3 L 04.07.07 michael AT estone DOT ca (5.3K) =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80>Re: upgr= ading to etch 
4   L 04.07.07 Ivan Aleman               (4.4K) =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80>
5   L 04.07.07 Daniel Burrows            (4.0K) =E2=94=94=E2=94=80>

This practice of "thread-jacking" is problematic:

  • People who want to follow Tony Heal's thread about upgrading to etch are interrupted by a completely unrelated message. This might annoy them.
  • Anyone who is not interested in Tony's question might delete the entire thread without realizing that there was a another topic involved. This reduces the number of people who read your message, which obviously decreases your chances of getting help.

--=20 

Regards,            | 
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          Florian   |

Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:50:39 +0300
From: Jabka Atu <mashrom.head@gmail.com> To: ktechlab-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,

Can't find what you're looking for?X

        debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Ktechlab circutes (Examples ) 

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Hey list members,...

few month ago i said that i post some circutes here but becouse of some bad luck and really hard semester i didn't post them.

i uploaded it onto my project on sf (SCEX)

btw sorry that i didn't upload the files to the wiki (i can't accses for some strange reason).

here is the circutes:

https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=181653&package_id=237947

Don't know where to look next?X

i hope to do all the 16 FlipFlops and some counters.

also some RAMs (decoder read/ not write CS and all)

P.S

how can change the name of some subcircutes?

how can i save a changable circute (that the user could just change the number of inputs and the compunent will adjust)

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Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:57:58 -0500
From: Kent West <westk@acu.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: knoppix memtest powers off after 35 mins 

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Kent West wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:

>> Kent West wrote:
>>  
>>> Running memtest86 from a Knoppix LiveCD on an HP pavilion ze4400 
>>> laptop. No errors, but the laptop powers off consistently after 
>>> about 35 minutes of testing.
>>>     
>>
>> If that is consistently 35 minutes then it makes me wonder how the
>> BIOS power saving settings are configured.  I would guess that the
>> BIOS is not seeing any input and therefore turning the machine off
>> because it thinks it is idle.  I believe that after the OS is booted
>> it takes over these things.  But memtest may not be programmed to do
>> this for that machine while the linux kernel in knoppix does.
>>
>> Just a guess...
>>
>>

> Not a bad guess. But if that's the case, it must be firm-coded into
> the BIOS; I could find no power-saving options in the BIOS setup
> screens. I had not thought about memtest86 perhaps looking idle to the
> system whereas sitting at a Knoppix boot prompt would not. Your idea
> gives me an idea for another test; tomorrow I'll see if I can load
> memtest86 but pause it so it doesn't check memory, and see if it still
> powers off at 35 mins; if so, that would seem to eliminate faulty RAM
> as being the cause of the power-down.
>

> Thanks!

>
Nope; the BIOS is not shutting down the laptop.
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I paused the memtest for five minutes, and then let it continue; the shutdown occurred five minutes later than it had been shutting down.

So I restarted the memtest, but this time changed the settings to start with test #7; now it shuts down within about one minute. (I tested this a couple of times; I also started with #6 once and it ran for a few minutes, then I changed it to test #7, and it ran for a minute or so and then shut down.)

So the memtest is somehow triggering the shutdown of the laptop.

Is this indicative of bad RAM, even though I've seen no other indication of bad RAM, or is it just a coincidence that some pattern during the random number test is triggering a power-off?

Hmmm.... 

-- 
Kent

Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:54:48 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: backports Message-ID: <20070705185448.GB11520@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 09:44:55 +0100, Chris Lale wrote: [...]
> Strange. I can ping the Debian keyserver:
>
> $ ping keyring.debian.org
> PING keyring.debian.org (192.25.206.59) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from raff.debian.org (192.25.206.59): icmp_seq=1 ttl=40 time=158 ms
>
> but I cannot get the key from it. This is for a new user "dave":
>
> dave@desktop:/home/chris$ gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-key 4B2B2B9E
> gpg: directory `/home/dave/.gnupg' created
> gpg: can't open `/gnupg/options.skel': No such file or directory
That is bug #412508. The file is /usr/share/gnupg/options.skel in Debian. You can copy it yourself and adjust the permissions: cp -i /usr/share/gnupg/options.skel ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf chmod 600 ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf Then you can look though the file and activate/change settings as desired. (Almost all of it is commented out by default.) You can also delete the first three lines; see the remark in the first line.
> gpg: keyring `/home/dave/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
> gpg: keyring `/home/dave/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
> gpg: requesting key 4B2B2B9E from hkp server keyring.debian.org
> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> gpg: read_block: read error: invalid packet
> gpg: Total number processed: 0
> gpg: keyserver timed out
> gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
I just created my own "dave" and tried the same thing. I could immediately download the key even though I got the same message about options.skel. I think your problem is a network issue. I have sometimes had similar trouble with various keyservers even though my network connection seemed completely fine otherwise. These problems were always temporary and went away without me doing anything. I would not spend too much energy on keyring.debian.org. Downloading keys from there is just as vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack as is downloading from any other keyserver. Just find a reliable keyserver close to you and use that one. If everything else fails then you can use db.debian.org for manual key retrieval. [ snip: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net works better, but not 100%. This might happen because it uses round robin DNS to connect you to a different keyserver every time. ]
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > The "ultimately trusted" key should be your own. Did you experiment with
> > gpg in the past and generate a key (pair) which you deleted again?
>
> The new user "dave" had not previously used gpg.
Strange that gpg looks for a specific key ID in that case.
> Perhaps I need to configure an ultimately trusted key (for the new user) to
> avoid these keyserver errors?
That is a quick thing to try, but I don't think this will help (see above). -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:25:09 +0100 From: John K Masters <johnmasters@oxtedonline.net> To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Upgrade on box not on Net Message-ID: <20070705192509.GA5295@spookie1.spookiegate> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Is it possible to upgrade a box not connected to the Internet? I run etch on my home desktop and sid on my laptop but I have a machine at work that is not, and never likely to be, connected to the internet. It currently has etch installed off the 3 DVD set which I downloaded via jigdo. I know I can create updated DVDs of etch using jigdo but how could I upgrade from etch to sid with no internet connection? Is this possible or even advisable? The main reason for wanting to upgrade is the huge difference in Open Office 2.0 to 2.2. Or could I just install OO2.2 over the stable package? Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914)

Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 15:35:39 -0400 From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 'file' doesn't recognize my Abiword .ode file Message-Id: <20070705153539.294540bd.celejar@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:35:25 +0200 Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net> wrote:
> Hi Celejar.
>=20
> Celejar, 04.07.2007 02:18:
> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:06:57 +0200
> > Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net> wrote:
> >> Celejar, 25.06.2007 16:40:
> >>> 'file' reports just 'data' when queried about an Abiword .odt file.
> >> Abiword does not support the ODT format yet. What makes you think th=
at it did
> >> save in this format?
> >=20
> > ??? When I open the Save Dialog and click on the Save File As Type
> > button, one of the choices in the drop down list is "OpenDocument
> > (.odt)", and when selected, Abi saves as an .odt file.
>=20
> Now that=E2=80=99s odd. I don=E2=80=99t have that option and never had;=
using version 2.4.6 from
> Debian stock. Double-checking =E2=80=A6 no, nowhere to be found here.
Apparently ODF support is a plugin, distributed in abiword-plugins. >From that package's changelog:
> abiword (1.0.2+cvs.2002.08.10-1) unstable; urgency=3Dlow
>=20
> * The "Truckin'" release.
> * New upstream release (CVS).
> * Added OpenWriter plugin.
>=20
> -- Masayuki Hatta <mhatta@debian.org> Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:37:15 +0900
=20 And from 'dpkg -L abiword-plugins':
> /usr/lib/AbiWord-2.4/plugins/libAbiOpenDocument.so
> /usr/lib/AbiWord-2.4/plugins/libAbiOpenDocument.la
> /usr/lib/AbiWord-2.4/plugins/libAbiOpenWriter.so
> /usr/lib/AbiWord-2.4/plugins/libAbiOpenWriter.la

> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D383409
> > =20
> >>> but the discussion indicates that 'file' is
> >>> reporting 'zip'.
> >> Yeah, that=E2=80=99s what OpenDocuments are after all.
> >=20
> > Not the point; they are seeing .zip while I'm seeing data. Why?
>=20
> Seems to have been clarified in the mentioned report now.
I don't understand. All the messages I see in the report indicate that file is recognizing the document as a zip archive, just not as an ODF document.
> Regards, Mathias
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Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:39:34 -0700 From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Sarge install image (kernel 2.4) Message-id: <200707051239.34059.agianson@gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline On Wed July 4 2007 01:28, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote:
> Hi
> Could anyone please point out where to find Sarge install images?
I only had a quick look but I couldn't find any sarge install images. They must exist somewhere but I'm not sure where.
> I
> tried to install it with debootstrap but I can only make it boot on kernel
> 2.6.8. When I try to boot on kernel 2.4 it shows the message
> /sbin/init 432: cannot open dev/console
> I did not find any helpful recommendations on the internet but I hope the
> install disk works.
Are you installing the amd64 version of sarge by chance? It requires the 2.6 kernel.

Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:02:44 -0400 From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Upgrade on box not on Net Message-Id: <20070705160244.2693edd1.celejar@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:25:09 +0100 John K Masters <johnmasters@oxtedonline.net> wrote:
> Is it possible to upgrade a box not connected to the Internet?
>
> I run etch on my home desktop and sid on my laptop but I have a machine
> at work that is not, and never likely to be, connected to the internet.
> It currently has etch installed off the 3 DVD set which I downloaded via
> jigdo. I know I can create updated DVDs of etch using jigdo but how
> could I upgrade from etch to sid with no internet connection? Is this
> possible or even advisable? The main reason for wanting to upgrade is
This is what the apt-zip package is for.
> the huge difference in Open Office 2.0 to 2.2. Or could I just install
> OO2.2 over the stable package?
>
> Regards, John
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Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:05:17 +0000 From: steef <steefvanduin@zonnet.nl> To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Sarge install image (kernel 2.4) Message-ID: <468C0B8D.8010602@zonnet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote:
> Hi
> Could anyone please point out where to find Sarge install images? I tried
> to install it with debootstrap but I can only make it boot on kernel 2.6.8.
> When I try to boot on kernel 2.4 it shows the message
> /sbin/init 432: cannot open dev/console
> I did not find any helpful recommendations on the internet but I hope the
> install disk works.
>
> Thanks
> Gudjon
> >> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r6a/i386/iso-cd/ this could be where you are looking for. s. End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #1898 ************************************************** Received on Thu Jul 5 17:20:35 2007

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