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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 1903

Today's Topics: 

  Re: [OT] best way to print webpage    [ Mathias Brodala  ]
  Re: problem in booting without vga a  [ "siddhant tewari"  ]
  Re: System freeze when copying files  [ Jeff D  ]
  Re: Kernel 2.6.18-4 issues            [ "Mike Robinson"  ]
  Re: Kernel 2.6.18-4 issues            [ Jonathan Kaye  ]
  goodbye microsoft hangs at grub prom  [ Kamaraju Kusumanchi  ]
  Re: Setting up a cron for fetchmail   [ Orestes leal  ]
  Re: Icons dissapears in gnome         [ Matthew K Poer 

Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:22:51 +0200


From: Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: [OT] best way to print webpage
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Do you need help?X



Hi Hugo.



Hugo Vanwoerkom, 06.07.2007 15:32:

> Mathias Brodala wrote:
>> Hugo Vanwoerkom, 06.07.2007 14:35:
>>> There is this page:
>>> 
http://www.ssp.gob.mx/CFPWeb/portals/CFP.portal?_nfpb=3Dtrue&_pageLab=


el=3Dcontenido3&nodePath=3D/BEA%20Repository/PF/Contenidos/Convocatoria/d=
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>>> Most of the relevant info is hidden in a scroll bar, so just printing=


>>> the page won't do.
>>
>> Just disable the author=E2=80=99s stylesheet and print. (Possible in F=


irefox,

>> Konqueror
>> and Opera.)
>=20


> How do you disable that in iceweasel?
Do you need more help?X

Via "View" =E2=86=92 "Page Style" =E2=86=92 "No Style".




Regards, Mathias



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Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 19:47:04 +0530


From: "siddhant tewari" <siddhant.tewari@gmail.com>
To: "Ish Rattan" <ishwar@pali.cps.cmich.edu>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: problem in booting without vga adapter plugged in
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hi rattan ,




many thanks for the reply .... can u give me some hint abt what part of bios
should be modified or  some hint about the changes in the bios setting ....
thanking u again for the reply .....



regards


siddhant



On 7/6/07, Ish Rattan <ishwar@pali.cps.cmich.edu> wrote:

>
>
>


> On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, siddhant tewari wrote:
>

> > hi,

> > I am facing a very strange problem .... i have installed debian on a
> > computer wiht AMD process if everything is fine except when i try to
> boot
> > the box without the vga adapter plugged as in this case computer hangs
> (even
> > message uncompressing linux kernel is not displayed).
> >
> > Please tell me what should be done (what kernel argument should be
> supplied
> > so that it boots without vga adapter /monitor cable).
>


> It is the BIOS that is stopping the show. Just put in a cheap VGA card,
> monitor is not needed.
>


> HTH,

> -ishwar


>



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hi rattan ,<br><br><br>many thanks for the reply .... can u give me some hint abt what part of bios should be modified or&nbsp; some hint about the changes in the bios setting .... thanking u again for the reply .....  <br><br>
regards<br>siddhant<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/6/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ish Rattan</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:ishwar@pali.cps.cmich.edu">ishwar@pali.cps.cmich.edu</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, siddhant tewari wrote:

> hi,
> I am facing a very strange problem .... i have installed debian on a
> computer wiht AMD process if everything is fine except when i try to boot

> the box without the vga adapter plugged as in this case computer hangs (even
> message uncompressing linux kernel is not displayed).
>
> Please tell me what should be done (what kernel argument should be supplied

> so that it boots without vga adapter /monitor cable).

It is the BIOS that is stopping the show. Just put in a cheap VGA card,
monitor is not needed.

HTH,
-ishwar

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Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:08:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Ish Rattan <ishwar@pali.cps.cmich.edu> To: siddhant tewari <siddhant.tewari@gmail.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: problem in booting without vga adapter plugged in Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707061007190.28862@pali.cps.cmich.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, siddhant tewari wrote:

> hi,
> I am facing a very strange problem .... i have installed debian on a
> computer wiht AMD process if everything is fine except when i try to boot
> the box without the vga adapter plugged as in this case computer hangs (even
> message uncompressing linux kernel is not displayed).

>

> Please tell me what should be done (what kernel argument should be supplied
> so that it boots without vga adapter /monitor cable).

It is the BIOS that is stopping the show. Just put in a cheap VGA card, monitor is not needed.

HTH,
-ishwar

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:44:40 -0400
From: Rick Pasotto <rick@niof.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: courier and seamonkey 

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Don't know where to look next?X

Many of the webpages I look at specify 'Courier' as the only font for code examples. When I go into seamonkey->preferences->appearance->fonts->monospace I find 'Courier New' but not plain 'Courier'.

The resulting display is extremely difficult to read.

How can I get seamonkey to use some other font when 'Courier' is the only font specified? 

-- 
"Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is
 the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt
    Rick Pasotto    
rick(at)niof.net    
http://www.niof.net

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:47:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> To: Zoho Vignochi <zoho.vignochi@gmail.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: System freeze when copying files Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0707060744580.13288@proto.technobounce.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, Zoho Vignochi wrote:
> Hello,
>
> There was a thread back in Feb:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/02/msg00129.html regrading a
> total system freeze while copying files. I have the same problem. Cannot
> ssh in, no response at all from the keyboard and I must reboot via the
> power button. The two computers in question are a PPC Oopen Desktop
> Workstation and a Linksys NSLU2. Both have debian sid installed.
>
> hdparm for the PPC.
> /dev/hda:
> multcount = 16 (on)
> IO_support = 1 (32-bit)
> unmaskirq = 1 (on)
> using_dma = 1 (on)
> keepsettings = 0 (off)
> readonly = 0 (off)
> readahead = 256 (on)
> geometry = 16383/255/63, sectors = 156301488, start = 0
>
> The NSLU2 has a 1 GB usb keychain (sda) which the os is installed on and
> a 100 GB external USB hard drive (sdb) for data storage.
>
> /dev/sda:
> readonly = 0 (off)
> readahead = 256 (on)
> geometry = 121/255/63, sectors = 1952767, start = 0
>
> /dev/sdb:
> readonly = 0 (off)
> readahead = 256 (on)
> geometry = 19457/255/63, sectors = 312581808, start = 0
>
> No matter what I do, the PPC freezes hard if I try to transfer a file
> larger than 1 GB. The NSLU2 does not freeze. Here are the methods I have
> tried all of which caused a hard freeze before the file was completely
> transferred.
>
> 1) Mount the partition from the NSLU2 over nfsv4 and cp a file
> 2) Mount the partition from the NSLU2 over ssh using fuse and cp a file
> 3) scp the file from PPC to NSLU2
> 4) scp the file from NSLU2 to PPC
> 5) wget from the NSLU2 to a file offered up on a webserver located on
> the PPC.
>
> The previous thread noted that DMA should be turned on. Can you do that
> for a usb external harddrive? And might that be the reason for the hard
> freeze? Like I said, the NSLU2 does not freeze but the PPC does.
>
> Thanks for any advice,
>
> Zoho
> Hi, I'm going to guess what you are having problems with here is actually your ethernet device and not your disks. You may want to try to add some of these options to your grub menu: acpi=noirq irqpoll One of those might help you out. hth, jeff -+- 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Techno.

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 11:03:52 -0400 From: "Mike Robinson" <mike@robinsonhome.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.18-4 issues Message-Id: <20070706150239.M37028@robinsonhome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:48:47 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote
> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> > Hi Mike, FWIW, I have the same chip, AMD64 Athlon 3200+. I use the K8 kernel
> > image when running a 64bit kernel but I have always used a 686 kernel image
> > for 32 bit so I use 2.6.18-4-686 and not 2.6.18-4-k7. The description of
> > the K7 kernel is: "2.6.18 on 32bit AMD Duron/Athlon/AthlonXP machines." but
> > you are using a 64bit chip (albeit in 32bit mode). Maybe trying the
> > 2.6.18-4-686 linux-image package will solve your problems.
> > Cheers,
> > Jonathan
>
> And this?
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/08/msg03030.html
>
> Hugo
Yes, I found this same post...which is why I thought the k7 kernel should be fine. -Mike

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:14:15 +0200 From: heba <mat.r.gl@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: [etch] console fonts disappear over time Message-ID: <b07a9ae00707060814w28cbff8bv12affb3b7401b6c5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2007/7/3, Jakub Narojczyk <narojczyk@ifmpan.poznan.pl>:
> Hi, I have a strange problem. After some time working in X I noticed
> that I can't run any xterminal (xterm, eterm...) I somehow manage to run
> kde konsole. When I issue $xterm i get :
>
> X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist)
> Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont)
> Serial number of failed request: 11
> Current serial number in output stream: 12
> [cut]
> The problem is clearly with fonts but the strange thing is that after
> restarting Xsession it's all god. It happends after some time of using
> X. I tried #dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig but it didn't help.
> How else can I regenerate font cache or somthing? Does any one have an
> idea why these fonts break after a while?
>
> thanks
> Kuba
> have you try to install the addon font package?

Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:23:34 +0200 From: Jonathan Kaye <jdkaye10@yahoo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.18-4 issues Message-ID: <f6lmq9$uv2$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Mike Robinson wrote:
> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
<snip>
>
> Thanks, Jonathan. I decided to try the k7 image after learning that it
> existed. I did a little googling and determined that it would be a
> little more appropriate. I thought that it might fix an issue I had with
> the previous kernel (2.6.12-686) where only half of my memory was
> recognized...and it did. Maybe it wasn't the k7 image that fixed
> it...instead it could have just been the newer kernel. I'll give the
> 2.6.18-4-686 image a try if nothing pans out here.
>
> Thanks again,
> Mike
Hi Mike, Yes, let us know how you make out. A friend of mine tried the K7 kernel and he had an Asus K7 motherboard. He was using an AMD chip but I don't recall which one. He couldn't even boot up with that kernel. I got an emergency call and went over there, ripped out the K7 and put in a 686 kernel and things ran perfectly. I don't know if this is relevant to your situation but I thought I might mention it. In any event, Good luck. Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 15:27:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Kamaraju Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: goodbye microsoft hangs at grub prompt Message-ID: <loom.20070706T172248-127@post.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried to install Debian from windows by going to http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ . After rebooting the computer and selecting the debian installer, I was placed at the grub prompt. What should I do after this? Does anyone face this problem? When I tried this approach on a different computer sometime back, it worked like a breeze. But now it stops at the grub prompt. BTW, if it matters, I am trying to install Debian on Toshiba Satellite P25-s507 laptop. regards raju

Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:07:23 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: problem in booting without vga adapter plugged in Message-ID: <20070706160723.GA12665@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QNuYedFeXxEqrKRj" Content-Disposition: inline --QNuYedFeXxEqrKRj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 07:47:04PM +0530, siddhant tewari wrote:
> hi rattan ,
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> thanking u again for the reply .....
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Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 11:59:29 -0400 From: Orestes leal <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Setting up a cron for fetchmail Message-Id: <20070706115929.c479f4bf.orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Folks, i want to setting up a cron job for fetchmail that run every 1 minute, but today i'am so lazy that even I can't do a man page reading, any help? Best Regards, Orestes

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:08:15 -0400 From: Gregory Seidman <gsslist+debian@anthropohedron.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Setting up a cron for fetchmail Message-ID: <20070706160813.GA20705@anthropohedron.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 11:59:29AM -0400, Orestes leal wrote:
> Hi Folks, i want to setting up a cron job for fetchmail that run every 1
> minute, but today i'am so lazy that even I can't do a man page reading,
> any help?
Ignoring the responses you are sure to receive about getmail being better than fetchmail, why aren't you just using fetchmail as a daemon? Look in /etc/default/fetchmail
> Best Regards,
> Orestes
--Greg

Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:08:15 -0400 From: "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: tetex and texlive: changes in Debian? Message-ID: <f6lpe8$ahd$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Since a couple of days, if I upgrade my Debian Testing machine, I see that a whole bunch of texlive* packages are to be installed, many of them new and a few hundreds of additional disk space is to be used. Are there any changes going on in Latex packages in Testing these days? Do I need both tetex and texlive packages? And, finally, what's the relation between these two kind of packages? thanks, ->HS

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:14:29 -0400 From: Orestes leal <orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Setting up a cron for fetchmail Message-Id: <20070706121429.3927f021.orestesleal13022@cha.jovenclub.cu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:08:15 -0400 Gregory Seidman <gsslist+debian@anthropohedron.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 11:59:29AM -0400, Orestes leal wrote:
> > Hi Folks, i want to setting up a cron job for fetchmail that run every 1
> > minute, but today i'am so lazy that even I can't do a man page reading,
> > any help?
>
> Ignoring the responses you are sure to receive about getmail being better
> than fetchmail, why aren't you just using fetchmail as a daemon? Look in
> /etc/default/fetchmail
Well, I use to be get getmail running but with fetchmail everything seems awesome, so why change?, yeah I run fetchmail as a daemon with fetchmail -vvv an a properly configured .fetchmailrc but when i try to boot up fetchmail within a rc script this won't start, so a cron job seems the perfect way to me right now.
> --Greg>
Orestes.

Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:02:55 +0300 From: Black Dew <bdew@bdew.yi.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Where is xen kernel for K7? Message-ID: <f6lp3g$v8v$1@bdew.yi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I want to install XEN on one of my systems which has an AMD Duron processor (k7). The system currently runs Unstable with 2.6.21-2-k7 kernel. The problem is - there is no K7 flavored kernel with XEN support in the archive... I found linux-image-2.6.18-4-xen-686 in testing (and as far as i remember 686 flavored kernels dont run correctly on k7 cpus) There seems to be linux-image-2.6.18-3-xen-k7 in snapshot.debian.net Am i missing something? Why was it removed from the archive? Is it safe to install the -3 kernel or it was removed from the main archive because of some serious flaws? i see the following options 1) install linux-image-2.6.18-4-xen-686 and hope that it works 2) linux-image-2.6.18-3-xen-k7 3) download the sources and build it myself ;) Which way should i go?

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 13:26:57 -0400 From: Matthew K Poer <matthewpoer@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Icons dissapears in gnome Message-Id: <200707061327.06644.matthewpoer@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart24161734.DTQ4PKSuVe"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart24161734.DTQ4PKSuVe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 06 July 2007 3:45 am, Miguel J. Jim=C3=A9nez wrote:
> Kumar Appaiah escribi=C3=B3:
> > Ensure that the relevant icon package is installed. My guess is that
> > package could have been removed in the process. You don't mention
> > which desktop manager it is, but I am guessing you can find the KDE,
> > GNOME icon packages.
> >
> > HTH.
> >
> > Kumar
>
> I use GNOME with Metacity and gnome-icon-theme (2.18.0-3) ... Everything
> seem to be installed OK ... Note that *not all* icons have dissapear;
> only a few but enough to be annoying (ie. "about box" in gnome-panel)
So applets have dissappeared from your panel? That would be odd. Perhaps as= =20 you upgraded Gnome some applets did not upgrade? Try an apt-cache search fo= r=20 a specific applet. Or maybe your config file become mis-formatted? Can you put them back by ri= ght=20 clicking the panel and selecting add applet? =2D-=20 Matthew K Poer <matthewpoer@gmail.com> Location: GA, USA Web: http://matthewpoer.freehostia.com GnuPG Public Key: 4DD0A9A6 Keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net --nextPart24161734.DTQ4PKSuVe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGjntqkRdiiE3QqaYRAgMaAJ9AmKRJDAdl36TcUACIknBoPjWY5QCfes/G 0Wv0gKvx4QfROmaKvwNBSwc= =zHLn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart24161734.DTQ4PKSuVe--

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 19:14:37 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: disable saving persistent net rules Message-ID: <20070706171437.GA13184@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 10:01:27 +0000, Kent Tong wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How can I prevent udev from saving the MAC address of eth0 into the
> persistent net rules file? I am using Debian Etch.
I think you have to make sure that the interface is named reliably using some other property. If I understand the persistent-net-generator.rules in /etc/udev correctly, it will leave interfaces alone if a name has already been set for them. A brute force approach would be to comment out the following two lines in /etc/udev/persistent-net-generator.rules: KERNEL=="eth*|ath*|wlan*|ra*|sta*", DRIVERS=="?*",\ IMPORT{program}="write_net_rules $attr{address}" I am not sure if that is a good idea, though. -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

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Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 19:18:22 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: install: client-error-not-possible Message-ID: <20070706171822.GB13184@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 20:30:26 +0400, =D0=9D=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0= =B0=D0=B9 =D0=A2=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B1=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2 wrote:
> Subject: install: client-error-not-possible
> Package: install
> Severity: important
>=20
> *** Please type your report below this line ***
> A print error occurred. Error message received from system:
>=20
> cupsdoprint -P 'HPLaserJet1022' -J 'KDE Print Test' -H=20
> '/var/run/cups/cups.sock:631' -U 'root' -o '=20
> multiple-document-handling=3Dseparate-documents-uncollated-copies=20
> orientation-requested=3D3' '/usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps' :=20
> execution failed with message:
> client-error-not-possible
How is that printer connected to your computer (network, usb, parallel port)? --=20 Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

Date: 06 Jul 2007 17:13:19 GMT From: Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@mail.mcgill.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: tetex and texlive: changes in Debian? Message-ID: <slrnf8t1hr.2de.tyler.smith@blackbart.mynetwork> On 2007-07-06, H.S. <hs.samix@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are there any changes going on in Latex packages in Testing these
> days? Do I need both tetex and texlive packages? And, finally,
> what's the relation between these two kind of packages?
Tetex is not longer maintained upstream, so Debian, and everybody else too, I guess, are switching over to texlive. You don't need both versions, and eventually only Texlive will be available. Presumably, if you just let apt handle all the upgrades you will probably find that you no longer have tetex by the time Etch goes stable, and all packages have been replaced by texlive. Or something like that. If you search the list you'll find several threads about people switching from tetex to texlive now, which is generally painless. Tyler

Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:36:09 -0400 From: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: tetex and texlive: changes in Debian? Message-ID: <f6lujb$piv$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit H.S. wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Since a couple of days, if I upgrade my Debian Testing machine, I see
> that a whole bunch of texlive* packages are to be installed, many of
> them new and a few hundreds of additional disk space is to be used. Are
> there any changes going on in Latex packages in Testing these days?
tetex is old and deprecated, texlive is its successor. In the long run, all the debian packages will be migrated to texlive from tetex. The transition has been announced sometime back on http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/04/msg00006.html . Only recently the texlive packages started to trickle into testing from unstable. I also suggest to subscribe to debian-devel-announce to keep abreast of these kind of transitions.
> Do I
> need both tetex and texlive packages? And, finally, what's the relation
> between these two kind of packages?
Most likely you need only texlive packages in the long run. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:25:13 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.18-4 issues Message-ID: <20070706132513.GA7508@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 08:57:31PM -0400, Mike Robinson wrote:
> Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> >Since Etch hasn't been stable for a year and a half, we need some
> >basics:
> >
> >contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
> >contents of /etc/debian_version
> >
> >When last you did a successful update/upgrade cycle and what package
> >manager you use.
>
> I use "apt-get" from the command line as a package manager. I never do
> "upgrade"...I simply do "apt-get update; apt-get install <package name>"
> whenever I need to upgrade a package. I'm probably updating
> individual packages at a rate of about once a month.
>
> $ cat /etc/debian_version
> testing/unstable
>
The first time I ran testing was when my new box wouldn't run Sarge. I've stuck with Etch so far. In a perfect world, your method may well work. If a newer package depends on a newer version of something else, it should depend on a newer version. However, testing is anything but a perfect world and I'd be concerned that you're not picking up everything; somewhere along the line something that really should be upgraded, isn't. So my suggestion would be to bring your system right up-to-date across the board and then see if you still have the problem. Doug. End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #1903 ************************************************** Received on Fri Jul 6 13:53:47 2007

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