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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2049

Today's Topics:

  Re: Several GTK-apps not working any  [ Florian Kulzer  ]
  Re: problems installing with 'writem  [ michael  ]
  Re: problems installing with 'writem  [ michael  ]
  Re: Need newer software that include  [ Kamaraju S Kusumanchi  ]

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:36:04 +0200
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Several GTK-apps not working anymore after update

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On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 22:43:29 +0200, danteonline AT gmail DOT com wrote:

[...]

> Problem: I updated my debian lenny/sid system today (at about 14:00 CET,
> 26.07.07).
> After that update, I noticed that i couldn't launch iceweasel anymore, it gave
> me the error:
>
> <error>
>
> Pango-ERROR **: file pangofc-fontmap.c: line 438 (pango_fc_font_map_add):
> assertion failed: (fcfont->fontmap == NULL)
> aborting...
>
> </error>

Do you need help?

What happens if you try to run

iceweasel --safe-mode

MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 iceweasel --safe-mode

LANG=C iceweasel --safe-mode

> The big problem is, that message also appears in applications like zenity.
> Other apps, like gimp, pidgin and quodlibet fail to launch after the update
> too, but they don't seem to give me any distinct error output
> but "segmentation fault".
>
> I assumed the bug was in either libpango1.0-0 or libpango1.0-common, due to
> the fact that I only have those packages installed that contain pango in the
> name.

Do you need more help?

/usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin links against pango libraries which are part of libpango1.0-0. If you decide to file a bug then it probably should be filed against that package.

> Reinstalling libpango1.0-common gives me the following warning:
>
> <error>
>
> Cleaning up font configuration of pango...
> Updating font configuration of pango...
> Cleaning up category xfont..
> Updating category xfont..
> *** You don't have any defomized font packages.
> *** So we are trying to force to generate pangox.aliases...
>
> </error>
>
> Note: I do have defoma installed, I even reinstalled.

What output do you get if you run (as root)

/usr/bin/defoma-app -v update pango

> Any suggestions?

Try to downgrade libpango1.0-0 and libpango1.0-common.

> How can I test if the packages I installed are the official
> ones and not some 3rd party ones? I chose mirror.switch.ch for the packages.

If you did not deliberately override apt's package verification mechanism then you should be safe.

-- 
Regards,            | 
http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
          Florian   |

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:51:36 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: CUPS: unable to configure printer Message-ID: <20070728145136.GA7897@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:16:29AM -0300, Thomas Beresford wrote:
> I can't believe this but I finally found what was the problem. The problem
> was the root password (and my regular user password too), because they had
> special characters that for some reason didn't work inside firefox, although
> these characters can be typed correctly (probably it's a encoding problem).
> I changed the root password for another one that doesn't use special
> characters and bingo, it worked.
>
> Anyway, I wish I could add a different user and password since I don't want
> to change my current passwords, but lppasswd still doesn't work because of
> the "permission denied" problem that I mentioned before. Do I really have to
> use the same user/password of my linux system into CUPS?
Since using special characters is an important security feature especially for root, I would keep the characters and use a different method to configure printing. Try foomatic-GUI if you want to stick with cups, or ditch cups and go with lprng and either foomatic printfilters (with possibly foomatic-GUI) or apsfilter. Doug.

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:19:20 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: laptop sid upgrade. network works till startx then get agpgart kernel error and no network connectivity Message-ID: <20070728151920.GB16391@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 12:30:28 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote:
> Hi,
> I enjoy playing with sid :)
Don't we all? Unfortunately Sid sometimes enjoys playing with us as well...
> I just updated to the latest sid on my Averatec Laptop 3250 running
> amd processor
>
> which worked fine before. Now when I boot all is fine, i can surf
> web using lynx if i stay in console mode. Then when i startx (i have
> tried it with kde, gnome, xfce4-session session managers) and
> immediately I get kernel errors and then i no longer can use the
> network. I am connected by ethernet cable to my local network via eth0
> ....
>
>
> Here are two examples of the the tail of dmesg for two different
> kernels:
>
> (only stuff that happens after the startx
> is invoked) :
>
>
> here is dmesg using kernel 2.6.17-2-k7
>
> dmesg|tail
[...]
> [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 9
> PCI: setting IRQ 9 as level-triggered
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 9 (level,
> low) -> IRQ 9
> [drm] Initialized via 2.11.1 20070202 on minor 0
> agpgart: Found an AGP 3.5 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0.
> agpgart: BIOS bug. AGP bridge claims to only support x4 rateFixing up
> support for x2 & x1
> agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x
> agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode
> agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode
> irq 11: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)
> [<c014da62>] __report_bad_irq+0x36/0x75
> [<c014dc5a>] note_interrupt+0x1b9/0x1f7
> [<c014d1a3>] handle_IRQ_event+0x23/0x51
> [<c014e57f>] handle_level_irq+0x94/0xc5
> [<c010639e>] do_IRQ+0x57/0x71
> [<c010476b>] common_interrupt+0x23/0x28
> [<c01274dd>] __do_softirq+0x56/0xd3
> [<c012759f>] do_softirq+0x45/0x53
> [<c0127803>] irq_exit+0x38/0x6b
> [<c01063a3>] do_IRQ+0x5c/0x71
> [<c010476b>] common_interrupt+0x23/0x28
> handlers:
> [<de87795d>] (rhine_interrupt+0x0/0x654 [via_rhine])
> Disabling IRQ #11
> NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
> eth0: Transmit timed out, status 0003, PHY status 786d, resetting...
> eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
> NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
> eth0: Transmit timed out, status 0003, PHY status 786d, resetting...
[...]
> I have tried booting with irqpoll option, no good, i have tried
> noapic, no good.
Other options to try are "pci=routeirq", "acpi=off" and "nolapic" (plus combinations of all of the above). [...]
> I have tried to disable agp with agp=off in /boot/grub/menu.lst but
> this did not help..
>
> any ideas what i can do?
Since this seems to be an interrupt problem it might help to see the output of cat /proc/interrupts before and after the network card fails. We also need to know what cards we are talking about exactly and which modules are loaded: lspci | egrep -i 'net|ether|vga|display|video' lsmod | egrep 'drm|agp|rhine' -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:49:29 -0700 From: "Michael M." <mcubed@slashmail.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: searching for graphical torrent client Message-Id: <1185637769.2166.17.camel@amdrifter.domain.actdsltmp> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 10:39 -0500, Owen Heisler wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 08:25:16AM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > On Fri July 27 2007 03:07, Giorgos D. Pallas wrote:
> > > I tried google but can't seem to find something that both looks decent
> > > *and* is available for debian (testing) as a binary. For example I tried
> > > qtorrent, but it is so minimal that I don't like it...
> >
> > When I need a torrent app I have always used the good old bittorrent on the
> > terminal. I guess it's not pretty (it's not bad though), but it works
> > wonderfully.
>
> rtorrent works well, with a ncurses interface and session management.
>
> It's faster than all the rest in my experience.
Seconded. What kept me from using rtorrent (and kept me stuck on azureus) for a while was the lack of documentation accessible to non-geeks, which is so often a problem with Linux apps in general. But after it had been around awhile and started catching on, mercifully various and sundry bloggers and the like posted more accessible how-to's that explained various features in plain English. I've been using it exclusively for about 3 months and have found it fast, stable, and minimal in terms of the resources it uses but not in terms of the features it offers. Between aptitude, mc, rtorrent, cplay, and one or two others, I'm developing a real fondness for ncurses apps. In general, I find it easier to use them for managing the tasks at hand than the bare command line, and nearly as capable as both CL and GUI alternatives with far less bloat than the latter. But that's only when developers or helpers take the time to explain their usage, with examples, in jargon-free language intended for ordinary users. -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:51:58 +0100 From: michael <cs@networkingnewsletter.org.uk> To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: problems installing with 'writemaster' CDROM Message-Id: <1185637918.12663.7.camel@ratty.phy.umist.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 15:55 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
> michael wrote:
> > Folks, I've a new machine with a "writemaster" CDROM drive. When trying
> > to install Debian 4.0 from iso image burnt to CD, it initially
> > recognises the CD and starts the installation but fails at the screen
> > where the CD drive is to be recognised (for continuing the
> > installation). I've tried various module/device combos but all to no
> > avail. I've looked about on Google but not come up with a working
> > solution.
> >
> > Has anybody else successfully uses this CDROM drive to install Debian,
> > or have suggestions on how I can determine a working module/device
> > combo. Please let me know if you need any further information.
>
> It may not be relevant, but I've had installation problems in the past with
> Etch, where the CD-ROM I booted from was not the first in the system. It booted
> fine, but then the installer later went looking for its disk in the first drive.
> If you now have 2 CD drives....???
Peter, thanks for the thought but only 1 CD drive...

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:00:26 -0700 From: "Tim Hull" <thully@umich.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Need newer software that included with stable (that isn't at backports.org) Message-ID: <9a7c669e0707280900x21b3896fn4ffc01ca1589f4cf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13133_20436533.1185638426319" ------=_Part_13133_20436533.1185638426319 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > >
> Sooo... download a vanilla .22 kernel and build it yourself.
>
> You've just got to do a little more yourself. It's the price of
> freedom. And not that difficult.
I know perfectly well how to build a kernel. What I'm asking for here is a way to do this the "Debian way" - i.e., through APT using the sid kernel source (effectively making my own backports). Also, there is more than just the kernel I need to build from lenny/sid - such as some gstreamer plugins and the newest acpi-support. I'd MUCH prefer to do this through APT than "the ugly old fashioned way". If I did that for every little piece of software I wanted to upgrade, I'd end up with a nightmare on my hands when upgrading to lenny... Regarding the unstable kernel being built with glibc 2.6, I'll admit - I was wrong on that. Ubuntu was the distribution that did that, not Debian. However, I still have seen in many places that you should NEVER, NEVER install sid packages on stable. >
> If you want effortless, go back to OSX.
>
> No, really. Very few people here will be upset that you want others
> to do the grubby integration work. My wife certainly doesn't. And
> that's *OK*.
One argument that bothers me a bit is stating that all deficiencies are "the price you pay for freedom" and recommending one go back to their former OS if they can't handle it. This is the reason Linux isn't doing as well on the desktop as it could. I must emphasize that I have no intention on leeching off the community - if that was the case, I'd just go back to OS X. My post was basically asking how to do a proper "Debian way" backport from sid source - which seems possible, given that backports.org makes plenty of them. While I did point this out as a deficiency in Debian (and Linux in general), I'm also open to helping fixing this. I was intending on submitting any backports I did to backports.org, as well as possibly getting involved in Debian development in other ways. I also reported all the bugs I found in lenny/sid in the Debian BTS, and was planning on keeping a chroot/VM of sid around to keep testing it. Now, however, I can't help but wonder if some other Linux distribution may be more receptive than Debian. This is a problem which needs to be fixed - no other OS makes you update the whole system or go through arcane source compilation to update a single component. ------=_Part_13133_20436533.1185638426319 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>Sooo... download a vanilla .22 kernel and build it yourself.<br><br>You've just got to do a little more yourself.  It's the price of <br>freedom.  And not that difficult.</blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I know perfectly well how to build a kernel.  What I'm asking for here is a way to do this the "Debian way" - i.e., through APT using the sid kernel source (effectively making my own backports).  Also, there is more than just the kernel I need to build from lenny/sid - such as some gstreamer plugins and the newest acpi-support.  I'd MUCH prefer to do this through APT than "the ugly old fashioned way".  If I did that for every little piece of software I wanted to upgrade, I'd end up with a nightmare on my hands when upgrading to lenny... </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Regarding the unstable kernel being built with glibc 2.6, I'll admit - I was wrong on that.  Ubuntu was the distribution that did that, not Debian.  However, I still have seen in many places that you should NEVER, NEVER install sid packages on stable. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>If you want effortless, go back to OSX.<br><br>No, really.  Very few people here will be upset that you want others <br>to do the grubby integration work.  My wife certainly doesn't.  And<br>that's *OK*.</blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>One argument that bothers me a bit is stating that all deficiencies are "the price you pay for freedom" and recommending one go back to their former OS if they can't handle it. This is the reason Linux isn't doing as well on the desktop as it could. I must emphasize that I have no intention on leeching off the community - if that was the case, I'd just go back to OS X. My post was basically asking how to do a proper "Debian way" backport from sid source - which seems possible, given that <a href="http://backports.org">backports.org</a> makes plenty of them.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>While I did point this out as a deficiency in Debian (and Linux in general), I'm also open to helping fixing this.  I was intending on submitting any backports I did to <a href="http://backports.org">backports.org</a>, as well as possibly getting involved in Debian development in other ways.  I also reported all the bugs I found in lenny/sid in the Debian BTS, and was planning on keeping a chroot/VM of sid around to keep testing it.  Now, however, I can't help but wonder if some other Linux distribution may be more receptive than Debian.  This is a problem which needs to be fixed - no other OS makes you update the whole system or go through arcane source compilation to update a single component. </div></div><br> ------=_Part_13133_20436533.1185638426319--

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:24:50 +0100 From: michael <cs@networkingnewsletter.org.uk> To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: problems installing with 'writemaster' CDROM Message-Id: <1185639891.20799.2.camel@ratty.phy.umist.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 14:47 +0100, Wackojacko wrote:
> michael wrote:
> > Folks, I've a new machine
>
> Its likely that the machine has more bearing on this problem than the
> CDROM itself. We need more information regarding the Motherboard and in
> particular the IDE or SATA chip the drive is connected to.
>
> > with a "writemaster" CDROM drive. When trying
> > to install Debian 4.0 from iso image burnt to CD, it initially
> > recognises the CD and starts the installation but fails at the screen
> > where the CD drive is to be recognised (for continuing the
> > installation). I've tried various module/device combos but all to no
> > avail. I've looked about on Google but not come up with a working
> > solution.
> >
> > Has anybody else successfully uses this CDROM drive to install Debian,
> > or have suggestions on how I can determine a working module/device
> > combo. Please let me know if you need any further information.
here's some more info (snippets from 'dmesg'): sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk ata_piix 0000:00:1f.5: MAP [ P0 P2 P1 P3 ] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[A] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 scsi2 : ata_piix scsi3 : ata_piix ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x0000000000012128 ctl 0x000000000001214e bmdma 0x00000000000120f0 irq 19 ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x0000000000012120 ctl 0x000000000001214a bmdma 0x00000000000120f8 irq 19 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:00.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:02:00.0 to 64 scsi4 : pata_marvell scsi5 : pata_marvell ata5: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x0000000000011018 ctl 0x0000000000011026 bmdma 0x0000000000011000 irq 17 ata6: DUMMY BAR5:00:00 01:7F 02:22 03:CA 04:00 05:00 06:00 07:00 08:00 09:00 0A:00 0B:00 0C:01 0D:00 0E:00 0F:00 ata5.00: ATAPI: TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH-S182M, SB03, max UDMA/33 ata5.00: configured for UDMA/33 scsi 4:0:0:0: CD-ROM TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M SB03 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 device-mapper: ioctl: 4.11.0-ioctl (2006-10-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 scsi 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5 sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 sr 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 rtc_cmos 00:03: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0 rtc0: alarms up to one month iTCO_vendor_support: vendor-support=0 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:06:03.0[A] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 iTCO_wdt: Intel TCO WatchDog Timer Driver v1.01 (21-Jan-2007) iTCO_wdt: Found a ICH8DO TCO device (Version=2, TCOBASE=0x0460) iTCO_wdt: initialized. heartbeat=30 sec (nowayout=0) Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - version 7.3.20-k2-NAPI Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation. ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:19.0[A] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:19.0 to 64 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M parport_pc 00:09: reported by Plug and Play ACPI parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE] FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306 cdrom: sr0: mrw address space DMA selected ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3 ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A SELinux: initialized (dev sr0, type iso9660), uses genfs_contexts

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:06:12 -0400 From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net> Subject: Re: 'sensible-browser' Message-ID: <20070728160612.GA13243@buddy.mtntop.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Kevin Mark(kevin.mark@verizon.net) is reported to have said:
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:57:45PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > The browser I have running all the time is seamonkey. How can I get
> > programs that want to use a browser open a seamonkey window instead of
> > firing up the gnome or kde browser?
> If you examine /usr/bin/sensible-browser, which is not very long, you
> see 2 things that it looks for:
> 1) the environment variable called BROWSER
> 2) the Debian 'alternative' www-browser and x-www-browser
> It check $BROWSER first and if that does not exist, it checks, if in X,
> x-www-browser. This is set by a few means. One way is to make a manual
> symlink. On my system:
> $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2007-04-09 23:04 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/firefox
> So, 'ln -s /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser /usr/bin/seamonkey' might do
> it. I say might because, IIRC, gnome and kde sometimes overide this in
> ways that i have not investiaged.(if someone out in -user land knows the
> rest of the story, do tell).
Or do it the debian way woth update-alternatives. u update-alternatives --config x-www-browser Wayne -- Real programmers don't bring brown-bag lunches. If the vending machine doesn't sell it, they don't eat it. Vending machines don't sell quiche. _______________________________________________________

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:36:21 -0400 From: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Need newer software that included with stable (that isn't at backports.org) Message-ID: <f8frap$g7$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Tim Hull wrote:
> However, backports.org doesn't seem to have what I need (it
> only has 2.6.21 kernel, doesn't have the new acpi-support, not to mention
> some extra gstreamer plugins I wanted).
According to http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=contribute backports are built only for packages that are in testing. kernel 2.6.22 is not yet in testing. Only 2.6.21 is in testing. That might be the reason why you cannot find any backports for 2.6.22. Sorry if you are already aware of this criterion. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/

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Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:31:19 +0200 From: Bernhard Kuemel <bernhard@bksys.at> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: utf8 Problems Message-ID: <46AB6F57.6040004@bksys.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi debian-user! I converted to utf8 in the hope that my non ASCII character problems would disappear. They are now ... different. I used utf8migrationtool and locale now says: bernhard@b:~$ locale LANG=3Den_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL=3D I am in Austria, where we speak German, but I chose en because the German translations are often so ridiculous (in mc's config: 'verbose operation' gets 'redselige Vorgaenge', bash says 'getoetet' instead of 'killed', when a process get's killed). I chose US because I tought that was most used and thus most stable. Now the problems: I wanted to print a German text containing umlauts from a web page. I marked it in iceweasel and pasted it into a 'konsole' running bash running 'cat >x'. 'lpr x' printed only a page with the character 'K'. 'hexdump -C x' says: 00000010 20 20 20 20 20 20 4b fc 6e 64 69 67 75 6e 67 73 | K.ndigungs| 00000020 62 65 73 63 68 72 e4 6e 6b 75 6e 67 65 6e 0a 0a |beschr.nkungen..| so ü is 0xfc, ä is 0xf4, and the characters are printed as periods '.'. mc's viewer says: 00000010 20 20 20 20 20 20 4B FC 6E 64 69 67 75 6E 67 73 K=C3=BCndigungs 00000020 62 65 73 63 68 72 E4 6E 6B 75 6E 67 65 6E 0A 0A beschr=C3=A4nkungen.. Here ü is still only the single byte 0xFC, but it gets printed as 'A' with a tilde and a '1/4' character. &auml is again 0xE4 but printed as 'A' with a tilde and a circle with 4 short lines extending from the circle diagonally. Opening x in openoffice writer shows rhombuses with question marks for each umlaut. Opening x.html in openoffice writer I was unable to remove all the table etc. stuff and so was unable to reformat the text so it would fit on one page. Hmm, it might work, if I copied the text from there into a new document. But here I want to solve the locale problems, or what should I call the problem? mc (midnight commander, a norton commander clone) of course goes crazy again, but I was not surprised and accepted that it prints 'a' with '^' instead of line art, etc. More serious was that when I 'ssh'ed to a different computer (not sure which) it got confused about which line it was on and I messed up editing /etc/fstab. man gets quote characters wrong, printing 'a' with '^' instead and so does gcc. I also have problems with kvirc. IIRC I can get it to display iso8859-1 correctly, but not utf8, and the smart utf8/iso8859-1 mode does not work. I chat with users who use iso8859-1 and utf8. Is there a package which is responsible for all these problems so I can file a bug report against it? Or are these bugs in konsole, gcc, man, bash, mc, iceweasel, openoffice and kvirc? Or ... is the bug sitting in front of the computer again :)? I wonder if it's easier to set up debian from scratch. I'm basically running debian testing (since a long time) but because I sometimes want packages from stable or unstable I have that in sources.list, too (well, stable is commented out currently) and so I don't upgrade to unstable I have this in /etc/apt/preferences: ---------------------------- Package: * Pin: release a=3Dstable Pin-Priority: 650 Package: * Pin: release a=3Dtesting Pin-Priority: 700 Package: * Pin: release a=3Dunstable Pin Priority: 600 ---------------------------- Thanks, Bernhard --=20 Please encrypt all emails GPG Key (ID F732FBF3 E4219D48) available on public key servers Fingerprint E18F BF4D 0EE2 6522 E950 A06A F732 FBF3 E421 9D48 End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2049 ************************************************** Received on Sat Jul 28 13:17:35 2007

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