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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2053

Today's Topics: 

  Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia d  [ Alan Ianson  ]
  Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia d  [ Alan Ianson  ]
  Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia d  [ Sam Leon  ]
  Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrob  [ John Hasler  ]
  Re: A question of fonts               [ andy  ]
  Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia d  [ Vincent Lefevre  ]
  Re: A question of fonts               [ Douglas Allan Tutty  ]
  Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia d  [ Alan Ianson  ]
  Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia d  [ Alan Ianson  ]
  Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrob  [ "s. keeling"  ]
  Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrob  [ "s. keeling"  ]
  Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrob  [ "s. keeling"  ]
  Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?           [ 2g  ]
  Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?           [ Alan Ianson  ]
  Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrob  [ "Andrew J. Barr" 

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:05:16 -0700


From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
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On Sat July 28 2007 14:38, David Fox wrote:

> I'm browsing howto's at the moment and attempting to get the nvidia drivers
> (the non-free ones) the "debian" way.
>
> There doesn't seem to be an avalable version of nvidia-kernel-source for my
> particular kernel (I was running 2.6.18-4-k7, but I just upgraded to
> 2.6.21-2-k7
> a few moments ago. I'm using
> http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/, and
> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers as reference documents.
>
> There is also no nvidia-glx in testing. There has been some discussion on
> the list recently regarding some updates to X.org video drivers, which have
> unfortunately caused my existing nvidia setup to no longer work, so
> currently I am using the "nv" driver. From the instructions it would seem
> my current card (Geforce FX 5200) should be supported by the "non-legacy"
> or regular driver.
>
> According to the testing status page (
> http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx) it would seem
> that testing is waiting for the newer driver package, which seems to be ATM
> availalbe in sid/unstable.
>
> Question - is it "safe" to retry the nvidia driver at this point? Last I
> tried, I ended up with a fairly unusable system and had to renstall most of
> X and go back to using the nv driver.
>
> If that is doable, I figure it would be better to do this the "debian way"
> and although I posted about this before, I probably would want to go ahead
> and add unstable sources to my sources.list and install that way.
>
> Or, I could wait until these are available in testing, but I don't have a
> clue low long that would take. (In a previous thread, it was opined that it
> would only take a few days or so.)
>
> Hints?

I don't know if this is "the debian way" but this is how I do it. I am running 
testing with kernel-2.6.22-2-amd64 at the moment but have also run the 2.6.21 
kernel until recently along with the nvidia drivers without any issues at 
all. There are no pre-built kernel modules in testing or unstable, I build 
them with module-assistant.



module-assistant prepare or m-a prepare


module-assistant auto-install nvidia or m-a a-i nvidia



Do you need help?X

Also install nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-ia32 if appropriate. 
Run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the nvidia driver and set the 
rest of it up to your liking. If all goes well (and I'm sure it will) restart 
x and you should be good to go.. :)



Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:10:31 -0700


From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
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On Sat July 28 2007 14:38, David Fox wrote:

> I'm browsing howto's at the moment and attempting to get the nvidia drivers
> (the non-free ones) the "debian" way.
>
> There doesn't seem to be an avalable version of nvidia-kernel-source for my
> particular kernel (I was running 2.6.18-4-k7, but I just upgraded to
> 2.6.21-2-k7

I might suggest that you install the 2.6.22 kernel from unstable. I had 
problems building the kernel module for k7 because of a GPL-only export that 
isn't an issue with 2.6.22 kernels. You can use the 2.6.21 kernel but you 
will need to build your own with paravirt_ops disabled.


> a few moments ago. I'm using
> http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/, and
> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers as reference documents.
>
> There is also no nvidia-glx in testing.

They are in testing, I'm using them now.. :)


Do you need more help?X

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:23:45 -0500


From: Sam Leon <leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com>
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
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David Fox wrote:

> I'm browsing howto's at the moment and attempting to get the nvidia 
> drivers (the non-free ones) the "debian" way.
>
> There doesn't seem to be an avalable version of nvidia-kernel-source 
> for my particular kernel (I was running 2.6.18-4-k7, but I just 
> upgraded to 2.6.21-2-k7
> a few moments ago. I'm using 
> http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/ 
> <http://home.comcast.net/%7Eandrex/Debian-nVidia/>, and  
> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers as reference documents.
>
> There is also no nvidia-glx in testing. There has been some discussion 
> on the list recently regarding some updates to X.org <http://X.org> 
> video drivers, which have unfortunately caused my existing nvidia 
> setup to no longer work, so currently I am using the "nv" driver. From 
> the instructions it would seem my current card (Geforce FX 5200) 
> should be supported by the "non-legacy" or regular driver.
>
> According to the testing status page 
> (http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx) it would 
> seem that testing is waiting for the newer driver package, which seems 
> to be ATM availalbe in sid/unstable.
>
> Question - is it "safe" to retry the nvidia driver at this point? Last 
> I tried, I ended up with a fairly unusable system and had to renstall 
> most of X and go back to using the nv driver.
>
> If that is doable, I figure it would be better to do this the "debian 
> way" and although I posted about this before, I probably would want to 
> go ahead and add unstable sources to my sources.list and install that way.
>
> Or, I could wait until these are available in testing, but I don't 
> have a clue low long that would take. (In a previous thread, it was 
> opined that it would only take a few days or so.)
>
> Hints?
>
> thanks.
>
>
>
>

Yes, the current kernel will not let you compile the module for the 
nvidia drivers.  There is a patched driver out that you can use that 
will work that gets around this problem: 
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=88132#88132

This is what happens when you try to run the official nvidia driver 
script: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432746

Sam


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David Fox wrote:


<blockquote


 cite="mid359a3c580707281438u181eeacdi8e70704c88d2b25d@mail.gmail.com"
 type="cite">I'm browsing howto's at the moment and attempting to get
the nvidia drivers (the non-free ones) the "debian" way.<br>
  <br>


There doesn't seem to be an avalable version of nvidia-kernel-source
for my particular kernel (I was running 2.6.18-4-k7, but I just
upgraded to 2.6.21-2-k7<br>


a few moments ago. I'm using <a


 href="http://home.comcast.net/%7Eandrex/Debian-nVidia/">http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/</a>,&nbsp;and&nbsp;
  <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers">http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers</a>
as reference documents.<br>


  <br>


There is also no nvidia-glx in testing. There has been some discussion
on the list recently regarding some updates to <a href="http://X.org">
X.org</a> video drivers, which have unfortunately caused my existing
nvidia setup to no longer work, so currently I am using the "nv"
driver. From the instructions it would seem my current card (Geforce FX
5200) should be supported by the "non-legacy" or regular driver.
  <br>


  <br>


According to the testing status page (<a
 href="http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx">http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx</a>)
it would seem that testing is waiting for the newer driver package,
which seems to be ATM availalbe in sid/unstable.
  <br>


  <br>


Question - is it "safe" to retry the nvidia driver at this point? Last
I tried, I ended up with a fairly unusable system and had to renstall
most of X and go back to using the nv driver.<br>
  <br>


If that is doable, I figure it would be better to do this the "debian
way" and although I posted about this before, I probably would want to
go ahead and add unstable sources to my sources.list and install that
way.<br>


  <br>


Or, I could wait until these are available in testing, but I don't have
a clue low long that would take. (In a previous thread, it was opined
that it would only take a few days or so.)
  <br>


  <br>


Hints?<br>


  <br>


thanks.<br>

  

  

  

  




</blockquote>


<br>


Yes, the current kernel will not let you compile the module for the
nvidia drivers.&nbsp; There is a patched driver out that you can use that
will work that gets around this problem: <a
 href="http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=88132#88132">http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=88132#88132</a><br>
<br>


This is what happens when you try to run the official nvidia driver
script: <a


 href="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432746">http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432746</a><br>
<br>

Sam





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Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:39:18 +0100


From: Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....
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John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org> wrote:



Hello John,


> Do you actually _need_ acroread?  Xpdf isn't good enough?

IIRC, Xpdf doesn't have the ability to do form filling.  With acroread,
you can fill out forms (they have to be set up to allow it, of course),
and then print them, already filled in.  Obviously, you can't save the
filled out form.



With my cruddy handwriting, I need all the help I can get.   :-)



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Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:15:54 -0500


From: John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....
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Michael writes:

> If you have access codes and passwords etc, then you can go on Companies
> House web site (http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk) and then you can submit
> the accounts on line. They give you a template file to download that is a
> pdf file.

Have you tried using any of the Free pdf packages?


Confused? Frustrated?X
> You then edit it and put in your accounting information.  As far as I can
> see you are meant to do this with Adobe Acrobat...

Adobe Reader is not Adobe Acrobat.  The latter is not free.


> In California it costs $900 to register a limited company.

Varies by state.  Last time I filed it was $50 in Michigan.

-- 
John Hasler


Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:18:27 +0100
From: andy <geek_show@dsl.pipex.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: A question of fonts
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Alan Ianson wrote:

> On Sat July 28 2007 14:28, andy wrote:
>   
>> Alan Ianson wrote:
>>     
>>> On Sat July 28 2007 12:30, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On 07/28/2007 12:20 PM, andy wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Can I have a few recommendations please for the best fonts
>>>>> package to use for a desktop machine.
>>>>>           
>>>> I have only installed one font package and have no experience
>>>> with any others.
>>>>
>>>> msttcorefonts
>>>>
>>>> It is available in the debian-multimedia repository.
>>>> http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
>>>>         
>>> This package is in contrib. No need for debian-multimedia for this one.
>>>       
>> I do have the latest msttcorefonts installed. It just looks crap with
>> Xmms and sometimes Iceweasel seems difficult to read too. But certainly
>> Xmms is the worst of the bunch.
>>     
>
> Are you using utf-8 by chance? I haven't made the switch to utf-8 because a 
> number of apps I use (mostly console) don't look right when I use it. This 
> sounds similar but I don't know for sure.
>   

I really don't know. How could I tell?

A

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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 01:35:41 +0200
From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
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On 2007-07-28 15:10:31 -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:

> I might suggest that you install the 2.6.22 kernel from unstable. I
> had problems building the kernel module for k7 because of a GPL-only
> export that isn't an issue with 2.6.22 kernels.


But for another reason, it doesn't work with 2.6.22:

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D434379

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Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:57:56 -0400
From: Rick Pasotto <rick@niof.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: 'sensible-browser'
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On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 12:06:12PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:

> Kevin Mark(kevin.mark@verizon.net) is reported to have said:
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:57:45PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > The browser I have running all the time is seamonkey. How can I get
> > > programs that want to use a browser open a seamonkey window instead of
> > > firing up the gnome or kde browser?
> > If you examine /usr/bin/sensible-browser, which is not very long, you
> > see 2 things that it looks for:
> > 1) the environment variable called BROWSER
> > 2) the Debian 'alternative' www-browser and x-www-browser
> > It check $BROWSER first and if that does not exist, it checks, if in X,
> > x-www-browser. This is set by a few means. One way is to make a manual
> > symlink. On my system:
> > $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2007-04-09 23:04 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/firefox
> > So, 'ln -s /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser /usr/bin/seamonkey' might do
> > it. I say might because, IIRC, gnome and kde sometimes overide this in
> > ways that i have not investiaged.(if someone out in -user land knows the
> > rest of the story, do tell).
> 
> Or do it the debian way woth update-alternatives.
> 
>  u update-alternatives --config x-www-browser


How do I add seamonkey to the list of alternatives?

-- 
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	-- Friedrich Hayek (1899-1992)
    Rick Pasotto    rick(at)niof.net    http://www.niof.net

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:40:07 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: A question of fonts
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On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 10:28:13PM +0100, andy wrote:

> Alan Ianson wrote:
> >On Sat July 28 2007 12:30, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
> >>On 07/28/2007 12:20 PM, andy wrote:
> >>    
> >>>Can I have a few recommendations please for the best fonts
> >>>package to use for a desktop machine.
> >>>      
> >>I have only installed one font package and have no experience
> >>with any others.
> >>


What about just standard ttf-dejavu and gsfonts-x11?

Doug.


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Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:45:10 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
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On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 02:38:44PM -0700, David Fox wrote:

> I'm browsing howto's at the moment and attempting to get the nvidia drivers
> (the non-free ones) the "debian" way.

> According to the testing status page (
> http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx) it would seem
> that testing is waiting for the newer driver package, which seems to be ATM
> availalbe in sid/unstable.
> 

> Or, I could wait until these are available in testing, but I don't have a
> clue low long that would take. (In a previous thread, it was opined that it
> would only take a few days or so.)


IIRC, things go into testing if they haven't changed in Sid for 10 days.

Difficulty with nvidia is the main reason that I'm sticking with Etch.

Good luck,

Doug.



Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:06:55 -0700
From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Sat July 28 2007 16:18, andy wrote:

> Alan Ianson wrote:
> > On Sat July 28 2007 14:28, andy wrote:
> >> Alan Ianson wrote:
> >>> On Sat July 28 2007 12:30, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
> >>>> On 07/28/2007 12:20 PM, andy wrote:
> >>>>> Can I have a few recommendations please for the best fonts
> >>>>> package to use for a desktop machine.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have only installed one font package and have no experience
> >>>> with any others.
> >>>>
> >>>> msttcorefonts
> >>>>
> >>>> It is available in the debian-multimedia repository.
> >>>> http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
> >>>
> >>> This package is in contrib. No need for debian-multimedia for this one.
> >>
> >> I do have the latest msttcorefonts installed. It just looks crap with
> >> Xmms and sometimes Iceweasel seems difficult to read too. But certainly
> >> Xmms is the worst of the bunch.
> >
> > Are you using utf-8 by chance? I haven't made the switch to utf-8 because
> > a number of apps I use (mostly console) don't look right when I use it.
> > This sounds similar but I don't know for sure.
>
> I really don't know. How could I tell?


If you type env in a term what is lang= set to? You can adjust that setting by 
running "dpkg-reconfigure locales".

I think etch uses utf-8 by default. A better solution would be if packages 
were utf-8 capable. It may be that xmms and iceweasel are not utf-8 aware but 
my knowledge if this stuff is sketcky at best.



Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:12:20 -0700
From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
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On Sat July 28 2007 16:35, Vincent Lefevre wrote:

> On 2007-07-28 15:10:31 -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > I might suggest that you install the 2.6.22 kernel from unstable. I
> > had problems building the kernel module for k7 because of a GPL-only
> > export that isn't an issue with 2.6.22 kernels.
>
> But for another reason, it doesn't work with 2.6.22:
>
>   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=434379


That's a bummer. I've had that problem before having on older version of gcc 
and not a newer one. I managed to get it built by installing a newer gcc, not 
to sure how one would get past this one.

Being on amd64 I have safely bypassed all of these issues somehow.



Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:23:26 -0700
From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
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On Sat July 28 2007 15:45, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:


> Difficulty with nvidia is the main reason that I'm sticking with Etch.


Are you running an amd64 there? I have had no trouble on the amd64 with the 
nvidia drivers. There a couple issues that I know of for the i386 but amd64 
has been painless.. :)



Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:33:30 GMT
From: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....
Message-ID: <slrnfano2f.4hp.keeling@heretic.nucleus.com>

Michael Fothergill <mikef20000@hotmail.com>:

> >From: Tommi Asiala <tommi@asiala.info>
> >>Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > >> I suggest you should try this new thing called "Searching the web". It
> > >> can give you nice links to web pages such as:
> > >>
> > >> http://wiki.debian.org/PDFViewers
> > 
> >Don't suspect, read the web page.
> 
>  OK, I see there IS a deb file and way to get at it....
> 
>  Sorry about that one.  I am such a fatalist. When I went on the Adobe site 


Better yet, learn to use the Debian tools:

   aptitude search pdf
   [LOTS of stuff]

   aptitude search pdf | egrep '^i'
   i   xpdf        - Portable Document Format (PDF) suite
   i A xpdf-common - Portable Document Format (PDF) suite -- co
   i A xpdf-reader - Portable Document Format (PDF) suite -- vi
   i A xpdf-utils  - Portable Document Format (PDF) suite -- ut

   aptitude show xpdf
   [lots of juicy details]


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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:35:30 GMT
From: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....
Message-ID: <slrnfano6c.4hp.keeling@heretic.nucleus.com>

Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>:

>  On 07/28/07 13:46, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > 
> > I was wrong.  As Jesus said in the Bible "O, ye of little faith".  I
> 
>  Yeshua didn't speak English.  But that's a way different topic.


You spelt $DEITY wrong.  I spell it "Murphy".


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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:39:37 GMT
From: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....
Message-ID: <slrnfanoe4.4hp.keeling@heretic.nucleus.com>

Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>:

>  On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:57:11 -0500
>  John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org> wrote:
> 
> > Do you actually _need_ acroread?  Xpdf isn't good enough?
> 
>  IIRC, Xpdf doesn't have the ability to do form filling.  With acroread,
>  you can fill out forms (they have to be set up to allow it, of course),
>  and then print them, already filled in.  Obviously, you can't save the
>  filled out form.


OO.o --> Save As ... $(vi ...) ...


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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:29:48 +0900
From: 2g <electriclightheads@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?
Message-ID: <1078018b0707281729m6fbe0ec6l2397513ca6403fd2@mail.gmail.com>
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at their site
only
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main
is recommended for unstable
even though they have
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main
and
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main
maybe i should just try but
afraid of something get broken

someone doing well with
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main
?

tia


Do you need help?X

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:32:08 -0700
From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?
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On Sat July 28 2007 17:29, 2g wrote:

> at their site
> only
> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main
> is recommended for unstable
> even though they have
> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main
> and
> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main
> maybe i should just try but
> afraid of something get broken
>
> someone doing well with
> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main


My laptop is running unstable with quite a few packages from d-m. I haven't 
had any problems. If you are running sid I would use the unstable branch of 
d-m.



Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:08:05 -0400
From: "Andrew J. Barr" <andrew.james.barr@gmail.com>
To: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....
Message-ID: <903e17bb0707281808w6da4709fo80b74184212e6ee@mail.gmail.com>
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On 7/28/07, s. keeling <keeling@nucleus.com> wrote:

> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>:
> >  On 07/28/07 13:46, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > >
> > > I was wrong.  As Jesus said in the Bible "O, ye of little faith".  I
> >
> >  Yeshua didn't speak English.  But that's a way different topic.
>
> You spelt $DEITY wrong.  I spell it "Murphy".


*starts popcorn in the microwave*

-- 
Andrew Barr

We matter more than pounds and pence,
your economic theory makes no sense...

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