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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2054

Today's Topics: 

  Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia d  [ Douglas Allan Tutty  ]
  Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrob  [ "s. keeling"  ]
  curses-interface ftp client with res  [ Douglas Allan Tutty  ]
  Re: DVD drive no longer mounts - Mor  [ "D. Kettler"  ]
  Re: curses-interface ftp client with  [ Jeff D  ]
  Re: Need newer software that include  [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: A question of fonts               [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrob  [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: A question of fonts               [ Ron Johnson  ]

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:07:45 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue 

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On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 05:23:26PM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Sat July 28 2007 15:45, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>
> > Difficulty with nvidia is the main reason that I'm sticking with Etch.
>
> Are you running an amd64 there? I have had no trouble on the amd64 with the
> nvidia drivers. There a couple issues that I know of for the i386 but amd64
> has been painless.. :)
>

Yes I'm running amd64. However, since I'm on slow dialup and the amd64 box is the only one with a CD burner and lots of drive space, it would be a major headache to have something happen that caused stuff to not work. My other boxes are a 486 and a PII and etch stuff needs so much memory that using them to 'rescue' the amd64 is painful. I've tried it as part of verifying my backup strategy but its difficult.

So, in effect, my Athlon box for me is mission-critical and I'll stick with stable now that its etch.

Do you need help?X

Doug.

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:12:31 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat.... 

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On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:39:18PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:57:11 -0500
> John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Hello John,
>
> > Do you actually _need_ acroread? Xpdf isn't good enough?
>
> IIRC, Xpdf doesn't have the ability to do form filling. With acroread,
> you can fill out forms (they have to be set up to allow it, of course),
> and then print them, already filled in. Obviously, you can't save the
> filled out form.
>
> With my cruddy handwriting, I need all the help I can get. :-)

Sounds like a crazy propriatary scheme. Whatever happened to sending out the Latex of a document. Recipients can latex it to view it, make changes, get it right, then email the latex back.

As for printing but not saving an altered pdf, can't you print to file (or get your print spooler to do it) so that you have a ps of the pdf? Burst the ps pages apart, turn them into eps, encorporate them into your latex document and away you go.

Adobe just had to reinvent their own wheel, convince everyone else that it was the only wheel around (so to speak) and make life difficult for us.

Doug.

Do you need more help?X

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:36:51 +0530
From: Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: A question of fonts
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On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 10:28:13PM +0100, andy wrote:
> I do have the latest msttcorefonts installed. It just looks crap with Xmm=
s=20
> and sometimes Iceweasel seems difficult to read too. But certainly Xmms i=
s=20
> the worst of the bunch.

I think XMMS is a GTK 1 application, and it's fonts will be that bad because it doesn't use the GTK 2 libraries which can render fonts in an anti-aliased manner (using a backend I don't recall).

For example, see this for what I mean:
http://alx14.free.fr/gtkaa/

So, unless someone corrects this statement, XMMS preferences etc. will have bad fonts! :-)

Can we help you?X

Kumar
--=20
Kumar Appaiah,
458, Jamuna Hostel,
Indian Institute of Technology Madras,
Chennai - 600 036

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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 01:52:46 GMT
From: "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat.... Message-ID: <slrnfansmr.4hp.keeling@heretic.nucleus.com>

Andrew J. Barr <andrew.james.barr@gmail.com>:
> On 7/28/07, s. keeling <keeling@nucleus.com> wrote:
> > Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>:
> > >
> > > Yeshua didn't speak English. But that's a way different topic.
> >
> > You spelt $DEITY wrong. I spell it "Murphy".
>
> *starts popcorn in the microwave*

Uhhh ...

Can't find what you're looking for?X

That means "Your comment contains negative information value, and I'm going for a walk"? As in, "So, what do you think about goldfish?"

Or what? BTW, I'll readily admit that the "negative information value" bit is valid. Fair cop.

[btw, see my .sig] 

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Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:44:28 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: curses-interface ftp client with resume? Message-ID: <20070729014428.GA13526@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I'm on dialup and often access the internet via a slow computer by sshing into my fast computer (which has the modem). Right now, if I want to download something like an iso file via ftp (there being no rsync mirror available), I put the url in a file, e.g. wget.lst and from a shell run $wget -c -i wget.lst. I let it run untill we need the phone line or its time to turn off the computer for the night (don't ask), interrupt it, and then start again later. It works reasonably well, but there are some issues: 1. After so many interruptions, often there has been an error creep in and the md5sum doesn't match. Without rsync, I don't know how to fix a file that is the correct lenght but doesn't match. 2. It would be nice to have a queue that is persistant over reboots. 3. It would be nice to have a curses interface like mc that lets me browse to the correct file, then tag the file for downloading which puts it into the above queue. 4. Have something that runs from /etc/ppp/ip-up.d to start the download but only use spare bandwidth, and something in ip-down.d to stop the download. Issues 2, 3, and 4 are only simple programming and I wonder if such an app exists (I couldn't find anything in aptitude, most are for X). Issue 1 is tricky. I haven't come across any ftp client that claims to do it so it may not be possible given the nature of ftp itself. Issue 3 is important. A straight CLI doesn't help if I have to write down what command I issued to get a file and then retype it every time I start the computer again; may as well stick with wget. Any ideas? How do others handle ftp downloads that may take a week of phone time? Thanks, Doug.

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:41:43 +0530 From: Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net> Subject: Re: 'sensible-browser' Message-ID: <20070729021143.GC6840@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KDt/GgjP6HVcx58l" Content-Disposition: inline --KDt/GgjP6HVcx58l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 07:57:56PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: >=20
> How do I add seamonkey to the list of alternatives?
update-alternatives --install seamonkey x-www-browser /path/to/seamonkey 80 Kumar --=20 Kumar Appaiah, 458, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 --KDt/GgjP6HVcx58l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGq/dfSd75awtatOcRAkasAJwOKJjVqv9kPXcbUtdUY7AgLS9mtgCfUfSI Flj9R2jssWks+y4YSmJWZOQ= =vN7W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KDt/GgjP6HVcx58l--

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:54:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "D. Kettler" <dkettler@u.washington.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: DVD drive no longer mounts - More info Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707281852320.519@dante01.u.washington.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I checked dmesg and noticed several: Buffer I/O error on device hdb, logical block <number> errors. Again, hdb is the drive in question. Does anyone know what these errors mean? Also, the output of hdparm: gosroth:~# hdparm /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq = 1 (on) using_dma = 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead = 256 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device -- David Kettler dkettler@u.washington.edu

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:33:14 -0400 From: Jesus Arocho <jesus_arocho@comcast.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: IM on a home debian network Message-Id: <200707282233.14575.jesus_arocho@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server. Is there a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network?

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:25:10 -0500 From: ArcticFox <genkokitsu@insightbb.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: IM on a home debian network Message-Id: <c937d1874baf749762d2516ca8a28a95@insightbb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Jul 28, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Jesus Arocho wrote:
> I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a
> combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server.
> Is there
> a program available that will provide instant messaging within the
> network?
> Try looking in to Jabber, you can run that as a server. (http://www.jabber.org/) I've never used it though, only looked into it for use with my Mac.

Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:11:37 -0500 From: John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat.... Message-ID: <87odhwhsbq.fsf@toncho.dhh.gt.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii s. keeling writes:
> That means "Your comment contains negative information value, and I'm
> going for a walk"? As in, "So, what do you think about goldfish?"
No. It means "A flamewar is about to start and I am going to sit back, eat popcorn, and watch the show." -- John Hasler

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:31:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: curses-interface ftp client with resume? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0707281919450.12185@proto.technobounce.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> I'm on dialup and often access the internet via a slow computer by
> sshing into my fast computer (which has the modem).
>
> Right now, if I want to download something like an iso file via ftp
> (there being no rsync mirror available), I put the url in a file, e.g.
> wget.lst and from a shell run $wget -c -i wget.lst.
>
> I let it run untill we need the phone line or its time to turn off the
> computer for the night (don't ask), interrupt it, and then start again
> later.
>
> It works reasonably well, but there are some issues:
>
> 1. After so many interruptions, often there has been an error creep
> in and the md5sum doesn't match. Without rsync, I don't know how to fix
> a file that is the correct lenght but doesn't match.
>
> 2. It would be nice to have a queue that is persistant over
> reboots.
>
> 3. It would be nice to have a curses interface like mc that lets me
> browse to the correct file, then tag the file for downloading which puts
> it into the above queue.
>
> 4. Have something that runs from /etc/ppp/ip-up.d to start the
> download but only use spare bandwidth, and something in ip-down.d to
> stop the download.
>
> Issues 2, 3, and 4 are only simple programming and I wonder if such an
> app exists (I couldn't find anything in aptitude, most are for X).
>
> Issue 1 is tricky. I haven't come across any ftp client that claims to
> do it so it may not be possible given the nature of ftp itself.
>
> Issue 3 is important. A straight CLI doesn't help if I have to write
> down what command I issued to get a file and then retype it every time I
> start the computer again; may as well stick with wget.
>
> Any ideas? How do others handle ftp downloads that may take a week of
> phone time?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug.
> Hm, well with a little bit of scripting there's ncftpget and ncftpbatch. ncftp covers point 1 pretty well from my testing. for 2, ncftpbatch does this almost, you create your que and it processes it, just in the order you submit them though. If/when the process gets terminated, a simple ncftpbatch -d starts the processing back up. you might be able to write up some scripts to manage the spool directory though. Jeff -+- 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Techno.

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:38:21 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Need newer software that included with stable (that isn't at backports.org) Message-ID: <46ABFD9D.6010502@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/28/07 16:30, Tim Hull wrote:
>
>
> Sure other OSs do: Try convincing OpenBSD that you want a newer kernel.
> They'll tell you to wait six months. OTOH, NetBSD is a hacker's dream.
> Take your pick. FreeBSD may also do what you need but I haven't used it
> yet.
>
> I agree that it would be nice to have something a litle more often than
> we get with Stable but a little more stable than Testing, but it
> doesn't
> exist. To make it exist would pull developers' time from the system as
> it stands.
There actually are other distros besides Debian. Maybe one of them better suits OP's needs.
> For this reason, and not in any way to tell you to go away, you may wish
> to consider one of the BSDs. They can run binary linux apps in
> compatibility mode while having a large repository of packages ready to
> install. Their pkg_add is very similar to apt-get; I haven't found
> anything equivalent to aptitude ncurses interface.
>
>
>
> I must say I definitely did consider that. FreeBSD looks like a lot of
> what I may want - it's ports is second only to Debian's package tree in
> software available, and each port can be updated independently. On the
> other hand, its hardware support lags behind Linux somewhat. Debian
> actually seemed most in line with what I wanted, as it seems like the
> least monolithic of the distributions and the most stable. I even seem
> to remember a Debian developer speak of incorporating backports and
> making stable images with updated kernels for hardware support available
> at some point.
That's what Volatile is for.
> In any case, I don't mean to irritate anyone. I'm just pointing out
> what I have found, by far, to be the #1 drawback of most Linux
> distributions - either you're stuck with what the distro gives you for n
> months, you install packages from some unofficial repo (if you're
> lucky), or you futz with tarballs - and see if anyone is working on
> solutions/is doing anything other than the obvious.
As I mentioned before, many upstream authors make RPMs of their creations. Maybe Fedora really would be better for you. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGq/2dS9HxQb37XmcRAi00AKDgTryCMoO337bQkSkv8Q4lAZrlRACgukn2 NtefOcSmbo2T7HLH0ZsHHDE= =0DMZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:55:38 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: andy <geek_show@dsl.pipex.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: A question of fonts Message-ID: <46AC01AA.1000504@cox.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC2C7D82D9F22BDB666F004DB" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC2C7D82D9F22BDB666F004DB Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080304090005040506000907" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080304090005040506000907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/28/07 14:15, andy wrote:
> Dear all
>=20
> Can I have a few recommendations please for the best fonts package to
> use for a desktop machine. The font package I have right now seems to
> really screw with the legibility of Xmms and even Iceweasel. I'd like t=
o
> make use of fonts that are available in MS Office (for inter-operabilit=
y
> with MS docs I have to process). If it makes any diffs, I typically run=

> either Gnome or Xfce4, on a testing (Lenny) machine.
>=20
> Thanks for any leads.
Attached is my list of installed fonts. The "foreign" fonts let me view non-Western web pages and spam using the correct Eastern fonts, instead of little squares. But Kumar Appaiah is correct in that xmms is a GTK 1.x app, and thus can't/won't ever look nice. --=20 Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! --------------080304090005040506000907 Content-Type: text/plain; name="installed.fonts.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; filename="installed.fonts.txt" ii console-data 2:1.02-2 Keymaps, fonts, cha= rset maps, fallback tables for console-tools ii gsfonts 1:8.11+urwcyr1.0.7~pre41 Fonts for the Ghost= script interpreter(s) ii gsfonts-other 6.0-3.2 Additional fonts fo= r the ghostscript interpreter ii gsfonts-x11 0.20 Make Ghostscript fo= nts available to X11 ii latex-xft-fonts 0.1-7 Xft-compatible vers= ions of some LaTeX fonts ii msttcorefonts 2.2 Installer for Micro= soft TrueType core fonts ii sun-java5-fonts 1.5.0-12-2 Lucida TrueType fon= ts (from the Sun JRE) ii t1-cyrillic 4.11 A basic set of free= PostScript fonts ii t1-teams 4.11 Teams -- a PostScri= pt font covering ASCII and basic Cyrillic ii t1-xfree86-nonfree 4.2.1-3 non-free Postscript= Type 1 fonts from XFree86 ii ttf-alee 11.4 A Lee's free Hangul= truetype fonts ii ttf-arphic-bkai00mp 2.10-6.1 "AR PL KaitiM Big5"= Chinese TrueType font by Arphic Technology ii ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp 2.10-6.1 "AR PL Mingti2L Big= 5" Chinese TrueType font by Arphic Technology ii ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp 2.11-6.1 "AR PL SungtiL GB" = Chinese TrueType font by Arphic Technology ii ttf-arphic-gkai00mp 2.11-6.1 "AR PL KaitiM GB" C= hinese TrueType font by Arphic Technology ii ttf-arphic-ukai 0.1.20060928-2.2 "AR PL ZenKai Uni" = Chinese Unicode TrueType font Kaiti style ii ttf-arphic-uming 0.1.20060928-2.2 "AR PL ShanHeiSun U= ni" Chinese Unicode TrueType font Mingti styl ii ttf-baekmuk 2.2-1 Baekmuk series True= Type fonts ii ttf-bitstream-vera 1.10-7 The Bitstream Vera = family of free TrueType fonts ii ttf-dejavu 2.18-1 Vera font family de= rivate with additional characters ii ttf-dustin 20030517-6 Various TrueType fo= nts from dustismo.com ii ttf-freefont 20060501cvs-12 Freefont Serif, San= s and Mono Truetype fonts ii ttf-larabie-deco 1:20011216-1.1 Decorative fonts fr= om www.larabiefonts.com ii ttf-larabie-straight 1:20011216-1.1 Straight fonts from= www.larabiefonts.com ii ttf-larabie-uncommon 1:20011216-1.1 Special decorative = fonts from www.larabiefonts.com ii ttf-opensymbol 2.2.1-6 The OpenSymbol True= Type font ii ttf-summersby 1.007-1 Free TrueType typef= ace font ii ttf-thryomanes 2:1.2-5 A Unicode font cove= ring Latin, Greek, Cyrillic and IPA ii ttf-unfonts 1.0.1-6 Un series Korean Tr= ueType fonts ii ttf-xfree86-nonfree 4.2.1-3 non-free TrueType f= onts from XFree86 ii xfont-nexus 0.0.2-12 Transitional packag= e ii xfonts-100dpi 1:1.0.0-3 100 dpi fonts for X= ii xfonts-100dpi-transcoded 1:1.0.0-3 100 dpi fonts for X= (transcoded from ISO 10646-1) ii xfonts-75dpi 1:1.0.0-3 75 dpi fonts for X ii xfonts-75dpi-transcoded 1:1.0.0-3 75 dpi fonts for X = (transcoded from ISO 10646-1) ii xfonts-baekmuk 2.2-2.1 BAEKMUK Korean font= s for X ii xfonts-base 1:1.0.0-4 standard fonts for = X ii xfonts-base-transcoded 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 standard fonts for = X (transcoded from ISO 10646-1) ii xfonts-cyrillic 1:1.0.0-4 Cyrillic fonts for = X ii xfonts-encodings 1:1.0.2-1 Encodings for X.Org= fonts ii xfonts-intl-chinese 1.2.1-6 International fonts= for X -- Chinese ii xfonts-intl-chinese-big 1.2.1-6 International fonts= for X -- Chinese big ii xfonts-knickers 0.0.1-3.1 Knickers font for X= ii xfonts-nexus 0.0.2-12 Nexus font for X ii xfonts-scalable 1:1.0.0-6 scalable fonts for = X ii xfonts-terminus 4.20-5.1 Fixed-width fonts f= or fast reading ii xfonts-terminus-dos 4.20-5.1 Fixed-width fonts f= or DOS encodings ii xfonts-terminus-oblique 4.20-5.1 Oblique version of = the Terminus font --------------080304090005040506000907-- --------------enigC2C7D82D9F22BDB666F004DB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrAGqS9HxQb37XmcRAm/0AJ9BCXI7j32o7b46tFtTnb+7tvb/ugCdE84O kX8wYTrwnbWCbUmVNOFSETY= =mlcO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC2C7D82D9F22BDB666F004DB--

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:47:21 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat.... Message-ID: <46ABFFB9.7090106@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/28/07 16:53, Michael Fothergill wrote: [snip]
>
>
> Well it's rather an unusual thing. I want to file accounts for a UK
> Limited company I run. If you have access codes and passwords etc, then
> you can go on Companies House web site
> (http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk) and then you can submit the accounts
> on line. They give you a template file to download that is a pdf file.
>
[snip]
>
> Comments appreciated.
Try evince, if you use GNOME or XFce. If that doesn't do forms, acroread in a chroot may be your only choice. If the chroot doesn't interfere with sending back the filled-out form... Good luck. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGq/+5S9HxQb37XmcRAlZtAJ9rYferXx60LxJ2UlgIlEGy5qgl5wCgpSAh ke6e67QlBP0KKGsozfdqweY= =kStK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:48:56 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: A question of fonts Message-ID: <46AC0018.1080904@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/28/07 21:06, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 10:28:13PM +0100, andy wrote:
>> I do have the latest msttcorefonts installed. It just looks crap with Xmms >> and sometimes Iceweasel seems difficult to read too. But certainly Xmms is >> the worst of the bunch.
>
> I think XMMS is a GTK 1 application, and it's fonts will be that bad
> because it doesn't use the GTK 2 libraries which can render fonts in
> an anti-aliased manner (using a backend I don't recall).
>
> For example, see this for what I mean:
> http://alx14.free.fr/gtkaa/
>
> So, unless someone corrects this statement, XMMS preferences etc. will
> have bad fonts! :-)
Correct. You might want to try xmms2. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrAAYS9HxQb37XmcRAhawAKCfj39f6ptQ3fHt1JkFaE6Y28gXwwCgqaE5 T4hvYmmlpg+nIC++km811zo= =hMP1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2054 ************************************************** Received on Sat Jul 28 23:07:39 2007

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