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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2056

Today's Topics:

  Re: /bin/login listening?             [ Jeff D  ]
  Re: A question of fonts               [ Glen Pfeiffer  ]

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com>
To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: /bin/login listening?
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2007, Tyler Smith wrote:

> On 2007-07-28, Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> wrote:
>> also, what version of debian are you running? Is this machine behind a
>> firewall or do you have a firewall running on it? You may also
>
> I'm running Lenny on a laptop, usually connected to various wireless
> routers. I recently noticed that firestarter wasn't actually starting
> automatically, something to do with the network not being up when I
> boot, and I don't always remember to turn it on after I connect to the
> wireless router. Also, even when I am running firestarter I have to
> turn it off in order to access my university via vpn.
>
> I've pasted the results of all the tests you suggested below. I don't
> understand much, but the md5sum mis-match for the rkhunter files is
> definitely worrying. Am I going to have to re-install?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tyler
>
>
>> you can also install the debsums package, it will do a md5sum check
>> against installed packages.
>

> root:chapter3# debsums -s

Do you need help?

> debsums: checksum mismatch libgcj-common file /usr/share/doc/libgcj-common/copyright
> debsums: checksum mismatch libgcj-common file /usr/share/doc/libgcj-common/changelog.Debian.gz
>

>>
>
>> do you have nmap installed on the local machine? you could run a nmap -sV
>> localhost against it and it should report back with something as well.
>
> root:chapter3# nmap -sV localhost
>
> Starting Nmap 4.20 ( http://insecure.org ) at 2007-07-29 00:26 ADT
> Interesting ports on localhost (127.0.0.1):
> Not shown: 1691 closed ports
> PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION
> 22/tcp open ssh OpenSSH 4.6p1 Debian 4 (protocol 2.0)
> 25/tcp open smtp Exim smtpd 4.67
> 80/tcp open http Apache httpd 1.3.34 ((Debian))
> 111/tcp open rpcbind 2 (rpc #100000)
> 113/tcp open ident OpenBSD identd
> 929/tcp open unknown
> Service Info: Host: blackbart.mynetwork; OSs: Linux, OpenBSD
>
> Service detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at http://insecure.org/nmap/submit/ .
> Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 6.208 seconds
> root:chapter3#
>

>From the looks of it, it could have just been a false positive. ive seen
rkhunter report a few, not very often though. I'd run rkhunter again, install chkrootkit, run that, see if the two match up.

As far as debsums reporting back on the rkhunter files, those will probably not match, as they can get updated.

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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:34:05 -0700
From: Glen Pfeiffer <glen@thepfeiffers.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: A question of fonts

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On 07/28/2007 01:30 PM, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Sat July 28 2007 12:30, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
>> msttcorefonts
>>
>> It is available in the debian-multimedia repository.
>> http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
>
> This package is in contrib. No need for debian-multimedia for
> this one.

Whoops! Thanks for correcting that.

-- 
Glen

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:24:51 +0000 From: Mathias Chauvin <thias.lelourd@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Robert Cates <cates58@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: clamav returns an ERROR in exim 4 mainlog Message-ID: <20070729102451.GA18431@mc-thias.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi Robert, I've had the same problem on my server. I think this is due to an access deny on the mail data. You may want to add clamav user to the Debian-exim group and restart clamd so that the clamd process is able to access /var/spool/exim4/scan/whatever. Have a nice Sunday! On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 06:51:10AM +0000, Robert Cates wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm getting this error message in my exim mainlog and I have no idea why
> and what to do about it, please help:
>
> malware acl condition: clamd: ClamAV returned
> /var/spool/exim4/scan/1IF2JG-0004Oy-Sh: lstat() failed. ERROR
>
> I'm running debian etch and I suspect I need to add clamav as a trusted
> user, in other words I need to change some permissions, but I'm not sure
> where. I'm using exim in the combined configuration mode.
>
> So what's the best way to clear-up this problem?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Robert
>
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 04:49:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Documented NFS/statd Debian Bug Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707290446540.28818@p34.internal.lan> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: nfs-common: NFS volume no longer mounted on boo Sun Jul 29 08:31:18 2007: Setting up networking.... Sun Jul 29 08:31:18 2007: Configuring network interfaces...Starting portmap daemon.... Sun Jul 29 08:31:19 2007: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking Sun Jul 29 08:31:19 2007: Either use "-o nolocks" to keep locks local, or start statd. Sun Jul 29 08:31:19 2007: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking Sun Jul 29 08:31:19 2007: Either use "-o nolocks" to keep locks local, or start statd. Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007: Either use "-o nolocks" to keep locks local, or start statd. Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007: Either use "-o nolocks" to keep locks local, or start statd. Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007: Either use "-o nolocks" to keep locks local, or start statd. Sun Jul 29 08:31:21 2007: done. Sun Jul 29 08:31:21 2007: Starting portmap daemon...Already running.. Sun Jul 29 08:31:21 2007: Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd. http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_frm/thread/5872ffd5eb89d1bd/8f82d66c7f9870d3?lnk=st&q=mount.nfs%3A+rpc.statd+is+not+running+but+is+required+for+remote+locking&rnum=10#8f82d66c7f9870d3 http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg369274.html Besides adding a manual fix for this, is there any ETA for a proper fix of the init scripts as NFS no longer mount due to statd not being started before it attempts to mount the shares from other machines? Justin.

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 06:19:47 -0500 From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue Message-ID: <f8ht4k$1hr$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 05:23:26PM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
>> On Sat July 28 2007 15:45, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>>
>>> Difficulty with nvidia is the main reason that I'm sticking with Etch.
>> Are you running an amd64 there? I have had no trouble on the amd64 with the
>> nvidia drivers. There a couple issues that I know of for the i386 but amd64
>> has been painless.. :)
>>
>
> Yes I'm running amd64. However, since I'm on slow dialup and the amd64
> box is the only one with a CD burner and lots of drive space, it would
> be a major headache to have something happen that caused stuff to not
> work.
But what could happen if you tried it on a duplicate partition? So it doesn't work. You go back to the working partition. My other boxes are a 486 and a PII and etch stuff needs so much
> memory that using them to 'rescue' the amd64 is painful. I've tried it
> as part of verifying my backup strategy but its difficult.
>
> So, in effect, my Athlon box for me is mission-critical and I'll stick
> with stable now that its etch.
>

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 03:55:18 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mike Messick <mikem@tridigitalenterprises.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Asus P5K WS motherboard / Marvell IDE - CDrom not detected by installer Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1070729023921.7612G-100000@beast.wlcn.org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Folks, I'm using the latest debian-testing-amd64-businesscard installer on an Asus P5K motherboard with an ICH9 Southbridge and Marvell 88SE61xx SATA / PATA chipset. I'm using an HP dvd1040i CDrom drive for installation. The installer boots fine but cannot find any cdrom device to use. When I look at dmesg, I get the following output relating to the ide devices: Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHZ system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx pnp: the driver 'ide' has been registered ata_piix: 0000:00:1f.2: version 2.10ac1 ata_piix: 0000:00:1f.2: MAP [ P0 P2 P1 P3 ] ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00000000000101f0 ctl 0x00000000000103f6 bmdma 0x000000000001ff90 irq 14 ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00000000000101f0 ctl 0x0000000000010376 bmdma 0x000000000001ff98 irq 15 scsi0: ata_piix ata1.00: ATA-7: ST3500630AS, 3.AAK, max UDMA/133 ata1.00: 976773168 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32) ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133 scsi1: ata_piix ata2.00: ATA-7: ST3500630AS, 3.AAK, max UDMA/133 ata2.00: 976773168 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32) ata2.00: configured for UDMA/133 scsi: 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA ST3500630AS 3.AA PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 scsi: 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA ST3500630AS 3.AA PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 ata_piix 0000:00:1f.5: MAP [ P0 P2 P1 P3 ] ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x000000000001a000 ctl 0x0000000000019c02 bmdma 0x0000000000019480 irq 22 ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x0000000000019880 ctl 0x0000000000019802 bmdma 0x0000000000019488 irq 22 scsi2: ata_piix ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0x000000000001a007 scsi3: ata_piix ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0x0000000000019887 SCSI device sda: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB) sda: Write protect is off sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 SCSI device sda: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA SCSI device sda: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB) sda: Write protect is off sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 SCSI device sda: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA sda: unknown partition table sd: 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB) sdb: Write protect is off sdb: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 SCSI device sdb: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB) sdb: Write protect is off sdb: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 SCSI device sdb: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA sdb: unknown partition table sd: 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdb ide0: I/O resource 0x3F6-0x3F6 not free. ide0: ports already in use, skipping probe ide1: I/O resource 0x376-0x376 not free. ide1: ports already in use, skipping probe an lspci yields the following IDE devices: 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation Unknown device 2920 (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8277 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22 I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8] I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1] I/O ports at 0170 [size=8] I/O ports at 0374 [size=1] I/O ports at ff90 [size=16] I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16] Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [b0] Vendor Specific Information 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation Unknown device 2926 (rev 02) (prog-if 85 [Master SecO PriO]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8277 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22 I/O ports at a000 [size=8] I/O ports at 9c00 [size=4] I/O ports at 9880 [size=8] I/O ports at 9800 [size=4] I/O ports at 9480 [size=16] I/O ports at 9400 [size=16] Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [b0] Vendor Specific Information 01:00.0 IDE interface: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Unknown device 6121 (rev b1) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8296 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 I/O ports at bc00 [size=8] I/O ports at b880 [size=4] I/O ports at b800 [size=8] I/O ports at b480 [size=16] I/O ports at b400 [size=16] Memory at fe7ffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] Messsage Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [e0] Express Legacy Endpoint IRQ 0 So it looks like my 2 hard drives are showing up just fine, but I'm fairly clueless as to why the kernel (2.6.21-2-amd64) isn't finding the CDrom drive. I've verified that the Marvell IDE/eSATA controller is enabled in the BIOS as well (hence the initial booting of the installer CD). I'm hoping someone on the list can point me in the right direction; if this isn't the appropriate list then please accept my apologies for the noise. Thanks in advance, -Mike. ================================================================== Mike Messick Dona nobis pacem rm -rf /bin/laden PGP Key Fingerprint: email: mikem@alaska.net 2048/0x57318496 053B 412B 82FC 3808 E141 CDCD 74AE 01C5 5731 8496

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:47:46 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: A question of fonts Message-ID: <20070729114746.GA31899@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:28:13 +0100, andy wrote: [...]
> I do have the latest msttcorefonts installed. It just looks crap with
> Xmms and sometimes Iceweasel seems difficult to read too. But
> certainly Xmms is the worst of the bunch.
This could also be a problem with your settings for font display rather than with the fonts themselves. I do not use XMMS, so here is a demonstration of the influence of font settings on iceweasel (PNG image, 55.6 KB): http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer/fontconfig/iceweasel-font-comparison.png Maybe you can post your font settings and we can have a look: awk '/fontconfig/,/^$/' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat xrdb -query | grep Xft -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

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Date: 29 Jul 2007 12:48:16 GMT From: Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@mail.mcgill.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: /bin/login listening? Message-ID: <slrnfap6jn.kqu.tyler.smith@blackbart.mynetwork> On 2007-07-29, Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>From the looks of it, it could have just been a false positive. ive seen
> rkhunter report a few, not very often though. I'd run rkhunter again,
> install chkrootkit, run that, see if the two match up.
>
> As far as debsums reporting back on the rkhunter files, those will
> probably not match, as they can get updated.
>
I ran rkhunter again, and then for good measure I aptitude --purged it, reinstalled, and ran again. And then I thought maybe the whole thing was compromised, so I purged it again, installed rkhunter 1.30 from sourceforge, and ran again. And I also ran chkrootkit. In all cases they showed nothing happening, except for warning me that some of my /bin executables had been replaced by scripts -- stuff like egrep, fgrep etc. So perhaps it was just a false positive. I'm going to read up on security stuff now, so maybe I'll have some idea how to proceed the next time. Thanks for your help, Tyler

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:09:40 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue Message-ID: <20070729130940.GA6292@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 06:19:47AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >
> >Yes I'm running amd64. However, since I'm on slow dialup and the amd64
> >box is the only one with a CD burner and lots of drive space, it would
> >be a major headache to have something happen that caused stuff to not
> >work.
>
> But what could happen if you tried it on a duplicate partition? So it
> doesn't work. You go back to the working partition.
>
The box uses LVM so I can't give Lenny its own actual disk partitions. Also, downloading a whole new installation is non-trivial at 28.8 Kb/s (sometimes 14.4, sometimes 9600). I'm many miles from the telephone exchange. It took a few days to install an ia32 chroot with just base, mc, lynx, and iceweasel. Doug.

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:18:43 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Asus P5K WS motherboard / Marvell IDE - CDrom not detected by installer Message-ID: <20070729131843.GB6292@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:55:18AM -0800, Mike Messick wrote:
>
> I'm using the latest debian-testing-amd64-businesscard installer on an
> Asus P5K motherboard with an ICH9 Southbridge and Marvell 88SE61xx SATA /
> PATA chipset. I'm using an HP dvd1040i CDrom drive for installation.
>
> The installer boots fine but cannot find any cdrom device to use. When I
> look at dmesg, I get the following output relating to the ide devices:
>
[snip dmesg]
> an lspci yields the following IDE devices:
[snip lspci]
> So it looks like my 2 hard drives are showing up just fine, but I'm fairly
> clueless as to why the kernel (2.6.21-2-amd64) isn't finding the CDrom
> drive.
>
> I've verified that the Marvell IDE/eSATA controller is enabled in the BIOS
> as well (hence the initial booting of the installer CD).
>
> I'm hoping someone on the list can point me in the right direction; if
> this isn't the appropriate list then please accept my apologies for the
> noise.
Its not noise. However, check out the installation manual. It tells you how to submit an installation report via the BTS with email to bugs.debian.org to the (I think) installation-reports psudo-package. The 'maintainer' for the reports is the debian-boot team who write the installer. I would suggest that you subscribe to debian-boot, follow the instructions in the manual and submit an installation report. Since they know how the installer works, they can be of more specific help. They certainly were when I was in your shoes 8 months ago. Good luck, Doug.

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:18:57 -0500 From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: poll: use of kernel schedulers? Message-ID: <f8i443$lec$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am curious, how many of you play with kernel schedulers that are not in mainline? To name just a few, there is CFS: http://www.linuxinsight.com/cfs-scheduler-to-appear-in-linux-kernel-2.6.23.html And there still is ck1 for 2.6.22 (and previous), but there will not be for 2.6.23 or beyond: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ I have used both, with good results "feeling-wise" but statistics-wise there only is the current flame war on the kernel list, ultimately the reason that Con Kolivas quit. I am currently running Debian's: hugo@debian:~$ uname -a Linux debian 2.6.22-1-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 29 07:39:18 CDT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux to which 2.6.22-ck1 has been added. Hugo

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:33:05 +0000 From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Bug#403969: Info received (Bug#403969: tdfx crashes X with AIGLX but without (working) libglide3) Message-Id: <handler.403969.B403969.118571568724537.ackinfo@bugs.debian.org> Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the package maintainer(s) and to other interested parties to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Debian X Strike Force <debian-x@lists.debian.org> If you wish to continue to submit further information on this problem, please send it to 403969@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:21:27 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: /bin/login listening? Message-ID: <20070729132127.GC6292@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:48:16PM +0000, Tyler Smith wrote:
> On 2007-07-29, Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> wrote:

> I ran rkhunter again, and then for good measure I aptitude --purged
> it, reinstalled, and ran again. And then I thought maybe the whole
> thing was compromised, so I purged it again, installed rkhunter 1.30
> from sourceforge, and ran again. And I also ran chkrootkit. In all
> cases they showed nothing happening, except for warning me that some
> of my /bin executables had been replaced by scripts -- stuff like
> egrep, fgrep etc.
>
> So perhaps it was just a false positive. I'm going to read up on
> security stuff now, so maybe I'll have some idea how to proceed the
> next time.
>
Its tricky. If you have been rooted, you can't trust anything on the system, including aptitude. As for reading, try the package harden-doc. Good luck. Doug.

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:22:51 -0500 From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue Message-ID: <f8i4bc$lec$2@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 06:19:47AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> >
>>> Yes I'm running amd64. However, since I'm on slow dialup and the amd64
>>> box is the only one with a CD burner and lots of drive space, it would
>>> be a major headache to have something happen that caused stuff to not
>>> work.
>> But what could happen if you tried it on a duplicate partition? So it
>> doesn't work. You go back to the working partition.
>>
>
> The box uses LVM so I can't give Lenny its own actual disk
> partitions. Also, downloading a whole new installation is non-trivial
> at 28.8 Kb/s (sometimes 14.4, sometimes 9600). I'm many miles from the
> telephone exchange. It took a few days to install an ia32 chroot with
> just base, mc, lynx, and iceweasel.
>
True. I forgot: you stated before that you were using LVM. I am running on a dialup modem myself and the last Sid upgrade took 2.5 days. Hugo

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:28:38 +0000 From: "Michael Fothergill" <mikef20000@hotmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat.... Message-ID: <BAY104-F40C770DA2618FA2043442691ED0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....
>Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:12:31 -0400
>
>On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:39:18PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:57:11 -0500
> > John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello John,
> >
> > > Do you actually _need_ acroread? Xpdf isn't good enough?
> >
> > IIRC, Xpdf doesn't have the ability to do form filling. With acroread,
> > you can fill out forms (they have to be set up to allow it, of course),
> > and then print them, already filled in. Obviously, you can't save the
> > filled out form.
> >
> > With my cruddy handwriting, I need all the help I can get. :-)
>
>Sounds like a crazy propriatary scheme. Whatever happened to sending
>out the Latex of a document. Recipients can latex it to view it, make
>changes, get it right, then email the latex back.
Nevertheless it was chosen by the UK authorities as a method of filing accounts electronically.
>
>As for printing but not saving an altered pdf, can't you print to file
>(or get your print spooler to do it) so that you have a ps of the pdf?
>Burst the ps pages apart, turn them into eps, encorporate them into your
>latex document and away you go.
I am not interested in printing it. Just editing it and submitting it and filing the accounts. It may be that I could do it with an ordinary editor....
>
>Adobe just had to reinvent their own wheel, convince everyone else that
>it was the only wheel around (so to speak) and make life difficult for
>us.

>Doug.
That may be in part true. But there are a very large number of companies registered here and so a way of avoiding Adobe software is probably useful if I can figure it out and then point it out to others..... Even if it is a slightly funny work around. Who knows, maybe I will discover some useful information in doing this that you can't find already by searching the web after all.... Or maybe not. Regards Michael Fothergill
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:50:25 +0200 From: Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Disable gnome-power-manager? Message-ID: <46AC9B21.5070300@noctus.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7270FE11F1CE7C4A358A467D" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7270FE11F1CE7C4A358A467D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan. Stefan Monnier, 29.07.2007 15:25:
> Now, recent versions of the gnome-desktop-environment depend on
> gnome-power-management, so it makes it inconvenient to deinstall the
> gnome-power-management package. Is there a way to keep it installed bu=
t to
> deactivate it?
I don=E2=80=99t have it installed, but maybe /etc/dbus-1/system.d/gnome-power-manager.conf is of help. It suggest that= gnome-power-manager is launched through DBUS, so you should be able to di= sable it that way. Regards, Mathias --=20 debian/rules --------------enig7270FE11F1CE7C4A358A467D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGrJshYfUFJ3ewsJgRAn1EAJ9mZ746xUWgaF/KoS0cZbgHmFF9BQCfTb67 nCpABJnRt7PeibvvC9q4Mas= =JMLm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7270FE11F1CE7C4A358A467D-- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2056 ************************************************** Received on Sun Jul 29 09:56:41 2007

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