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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2059

Today's Topics: 

  Re: curses-interface ftp client with  [ Andrei Popescu  ]
  Re: IM on a home debian network       [ Andrei Popescu  ]
  Re: poll: use of kernel schedulers?   [ Andrei Popescu  ]
  Re: poll: use of kernel schedulers?   [ andreimpopescu@gmail.com (Andrei Po ]
  Re: how to set network io priority f  [ Mike Bird  ]
  Unable to handle Kernel paging reque [ "Brad B" <jealousagain38@gmail.com> ]   Re: how to set network io priority f [ Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchli ]

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:51:14 +0300
From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 09:44:28PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> I'm on dialup and often access the internet via a slow computer by
> sshing into my fast computer (which has the modem).

>=20

> Right now, if I want to download something like an iso file via ftp
> (there being no rsync mirror available), I put the url in a file, e.g.
Do you need help?X

No torrents either?

> 1. After so many interruptions, often there has been an error creep
> in and the md5sum doesn't match. Without rsync, I don't know how to fix
> a file that is the correct lenght but doesn't match.

torrent solves this ...

> 3. It would be nice to have a curses interface like mc that lets me
> browse to the correct file, then tag the file for downloading which puts
> it into the above queue.

AFAIK mc can do ftp. I didn't use it much, but it might do most of what=20 you need.

Regards,
Andrei
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:32:44 -0400
From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to set network io priority for a process? 

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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:28:17 -0400
"Andrew J. Barr" <andrew.james.barr@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:
> > I'm on slow dialup. Downloads of iso's take days. Yet, I still want to
> > be able to browse the internet.
> >
> > I would like to set up something like trickle that will run something
> > but limit its bandwidth so that it lower's its priority.
>
> I think the QoS or traffic shaping features of the kernel may be able
> to do what you want.

I have issues similar to Doug's, and I have also wondered whether kernel based traffic shaping is what I need. Since we both use shorewall, which has an interface to the kernel's shaping capabilities, I suppose we ought to read shorewall-doc/html/traffic_shaping.htm

> Andrew Barr

Celejar 

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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:54:34 +0300 From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: IM on a home debian network Message-ID: <20070729195434.GB6259@think.homenet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes" Content-Disposition: inline --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:30:05PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: =20
> and leave this VC 1 open. VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or
> $watch -n 20 "from -c"
>=20
> VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session).
> VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to.
>=20
> There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt.
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:44:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: /bin/login listening? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0707291204020.12185@proto.technobounce.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Tyler Smith wrote:
> On 2007-07-29, Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net> wrote:
>> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) >> --------------enig6620D8D79CB50A9B1AFF7AB2 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> Hi Douglas. >> >> Douglas Allan Tutty, 29.07.2007 18:35: >>> Boot the box from something like the install CD, go to a shell, mount >>> your / partition ro, noexec. >>> =20 >>> I think the install CD has md5sum installed. Run: >>> #md5sum /bin/login. >>> =20 >>> On my i386, I get: >>> =20 >>> 2ee32ff74e474c4d9fc9df6f1460980f /bin/login >> >> You should also tell the exact version of the "login" package you are usi= >> ng. >> Otherwise this number is useless. >> >> With 1:4.0.18.1-11 on i386 I get this: >> >>> 004a41bb9196f1888bd89c2245910f46 /bin/login >> >
> Which is just what I got too. I found an old Mepis CD, booted into
> that, mounted my / partition, ran md5sum on /bin/login, and out came
> the same answer, for the same version of /bin/login.
>
> So I'm going to proceed as if I've been lucky, have not been
> rootkit-ed, and will continue on with hardening my laptop without
> reinstalling.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Tyler
> On that note, one thing that you might want to consider as part of the hardening process is to install aide or some other file integrity checker. Using something like that greatly helps in detecting and identifying issues such as this. -+- 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Techno.

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:00:30 +0300 From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: poll: use of kernel schedulers? Message-ID: <20070729200030.GC6259@think.homenet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o" Content-Disposition: inline --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 08:18:57AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> I am currently running Debian's:
> hugo@debian:~$ uname -a
> Linux debian 2.6.22-1-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 29 07:39:18 CDT 2007 i686=
=20 ^^^^^^^ Is this because of the -ck patch? To answer your question, no, I generally use only stock Debian kernels. Regards, Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrPHdqJyztHCFm9kRAuLTAJ4j32plG4aU7IAOnfqZZMOJxP7NhACfZIlI l3DHi5aILrLq179gZMv23v4= =ApLm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o--

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:11:58 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: how to set network io priority for a process? Message-ID: <20070729201158.GA13312@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:32:44PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> I have issues similar to Doug's, and I have also wondered whether
> kernel based traffic shaping is what I need. Since we both use
> shorewall, which has an interface to the kernel's shaping capabilities,
> I suppose we ought to read shorewall-doc/html/traffic_shaping.htm
>
That's what I'm about to do. I've only recently (within the past hour or two) determined that traffic shaping is what I'm trying to do. Ideally, I would just set ftp and rync to second priority and let everything else be normal. I'll keep the list posted. Doug.

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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:14:58 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat.... Message-ID: <20070729201458.GB13312@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:32:18PM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote: >
> > The next version of Evince, due this fall, will also support form filling.
>
> That is such good news.. exactly what I have been hoping to read.. I've
> been looking for a way to fill in pdf forms for an amd64 box I have
> here.
>
I have been under the impression that evince and kpdf use xpdf behind the scenes. Does this mean that xpdf will be able to do this too, or are evince (and perhaps kpdf) more functional than xpdf? Doug.

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:18:11 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: /bin/login listening? Message-ID: <20070729201811.GC13312@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:44:56PM -0700, Jeff D wrote:
> On that note, one thing that you might want to consider as part of the
> hardening process is to install aide or some other file integrity checker.
> Using something like that greatly helps in detecting and identifying issues
> such as this.
I use samhain. However, since a compromised system can't reliably check for an intrusion, I use it as a check agains JFS. Since JFS doesn't journal data (just meta-data), it is possible that after a power failure, a file may be missing. Samhain would detect this. For security, you should have the samhain on a live-CD or something with the checksums stored on a CD or USB stick. Doug.

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:20:35 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: curses-interface ftp client with resume? Message-ID: <20070729202035.GD13312@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:51:14PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 09:44:28PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> > I'm on dialup and often access the internet via a slow computer by
> > sshing into my fast computer (which has the modem).
> >
> > Right now, if I want to download something like an iso file via ftp
> > (there being no rsync mirror available), I put the url in a file, e.g.
>
> No torrents either?
No. For my current download, I found a mirror that also offers rsync (although it doesn't advertise it). However, lots of things are available via FTP that aren't available any other way.
> > 3. It would be nice to have a curses interface like mc that lets me
> > browse to the correct file, then tag the file for downloading which puts
> > it into the above queue.
>
> AFAIK mc can do ftp. I didn't use it much, but it might do most of what
> you need.
mc can't resume; it only wants to overwrite, append, or cancel. Doug.

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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:22:23 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: IM on a home debian network Message-ID: <20070729202223.GE13312@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:54:34PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:30:05PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>
> > and leave this VC 1 open. VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or
> > $watch -n 20 "from -c"
> >
> > VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session).
> > VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to.
> >
> > There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt.
>
> Never heard of 'screen'?
>
I have heard of it, but it relies, like so many other gnu tools, on the operator (me) having either a good memory or a cheat-sheet for keystrokes. I have a poor memory (learning disability) and a cheat-sheet makes using it very slow. Whereas, Ctrl-Alt-UP is simple. Doug.

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:28:43 -0700 From: "Kelly Clowers" <kelly.clowers@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat.... Message-ID: <1840f6970707291328o1c3b9a32m4eb8f7996f9c5155@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 7/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:32:18PM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
> >
> > > The next version of Evince, due this fall, will also support form filling.
> >
> > That is such good news.. exactly what I have been hoping to read.. I've
> > been looking for a way to fill in pdf forms for an amd64 box I have
> > here.
> >
>
> I have been under the impression that evince and kpdf use xpdf behind
> the scenes. Does this mean that xpdf will be able to do this too, or
> are evince (and perhaps kpdf) more functional than xpdf?
Evince uses poppler, which was forked from xpdf quite some time ago. Kpdf upstream uses xpdf, but some distros hacked it to use poppler (I'm not sure if Debian did or not). I believe xpdf development is mostly dead. Okular, the KDE 4 universal viewer, will use poppler for pdfs. Cheers, Kelly

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:46:01 +0300 From: andreimpopescu@gmail.com (Andrei Popescu) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: IM on a home debian network Message-ID: <20070729204601.GA6730@think> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 04:22:23PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: =20
> > > There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new =
vt.
> >=20
> > Never heard of 'screen'?
> >=20
>=20
> I have heard of it, but it relies, like so many other gnu tools, on the
> operator (me) having either a good memory or a cheat-sheet for
> keystrokes. I have a poor memory (learning disability) and a
> cheat-sheet makes using it very slow. Whereas, Ctrl-Alt-UP is simple.
The keybindings are configurable. Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrPyJqJyztHCFm9kRApgIAKCgOtgGBc7nPZbZDTUs8qtD3b+wjgCgq2+l h0nXp6k7QmMEiGpE1eWyriw= =bPJq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N--

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:44:48 +0100 From: Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat.... Message-ID: <20070729204448.7ffb78bc@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_5+WQdhuCuWQsB_zsEfHxfRF; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 --Sig_5+WQdhuCuWQsB_zsEfHxfRF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:20:55 -0700 "Kelly Clowers" <kelly.clowers@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Kelly,
> The next version of Evince, due this fall, will also support form
> filling.
More choice; I love it. :-) --=20 Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Walking through town is quite scary I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs --Sig_5+WQdhuCuWQsB_zsEfHxfRF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrO4ySXvR9Iq2E38RAqaOAJ9+gXjqPm8lndORBIaGWJbuz5/zuACfY6zh 6Z4EoCXox3JFzE/KXBNGrTI= =QXTZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_5+WQdhuCuWQsB_zsEfHxfRF--

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:49:21 +0300 From: andreimpopescu@gmail.com (Andrei Popescu) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: poll: use of kernel schedulers? Message-ID: <20070729204921.GB6730@think> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V0207lvV8h4k8FAm" Content-Disposition: inline --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 11:00:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 08:18:57AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>=20
> > I am currently running Debian's:
> > hugo@debian:~$ uname -a
> > Linux debian 2.6.22-1-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 29 07:39:18 CDT 2007 i6=
86=20
> ^^^^^^^
> Is this because of the -ck patch?
I mean the 'PREEMPT' (if there are troubles with the alignement). Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrP1RqJyztHCFm9kRAoFyAKCjjIMGvxQ1DdGmi1veFBv3129A3QCgtDPR 6nRe3qyV7h06tsHMTEINvl0= =1PkC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm--

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:54:36 -0700 From: Mike Bird <mgb-debian@yosemite.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: how to set network io priority for a process? Message-Id: <200707291354.37244.mgb-debian@yosemite.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 29 July 2007 13:11, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:32:44PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > I have issues similar to Doug's, and I have also wondered whether
> > kernel based traffic shaping is what I need. Since we both use
> > shorewall, which has an interface to the kernel's shaping capabilities,
> > I suppose we ought to read shorewall-doc/html/traffic_shaping.htm
>
> That's what I'm about to do. I've only recently (within the past hour
> or two) determined that traffic shaping is what I'm trying to do.
This is not a solution, just a tip to guide your research. Traffic "shaping" usually applies to output. "Policing"[0] usually applies to input. Since we often can't shape on the router transmitting data to us, in such cases we instead have to police on the receiving end and rely on the sender's TCP flow control to reduce rates to the point where packets aren't lost. This doesn't work for UDP and ICMP and works poorly for varying loads. --Mike Bird [0] http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/policevsshape.html#policingvsshaping

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:56:26 -0500 From: "Brad B" <jealousagain38@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Unable to handle Kernel paging request Message-ID: <f513f96f0707291356r49f45d96o830effcdcfcd988a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_23945_26451305.1185742586012" ------=_Part_23945_26451305.1185742586012 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey, I recently did the network installation of Debian to a spare HD, and tried running it by itself in my PC, which usually runs windows. It boots into grub, but I get serveral different error messages at different times. I'm never able to load the kernel, I believe. Here're the most common errors: Unable to handle kernal paging request Kernal Panic -- Not Syncing And another which only consists of addresses. I've tried modifying grub.conf to try and find the kernel, but that didn't help. Here're the specs on my system: 80GB Maxtor HD (With debian netinst'd on it) 1GB RAM Intel Celeron Processer, 2.7 ghz nVidia 6200 video card One CD-RW drive, one DVD-ROM drive If you think you'd be up to it, you could also give me a call by phone to help. (251)-978-1092 I'd like it if anyone pretty experienced with Debian could help me. --Brad ------=_Part_23945_26451305.1185742586012 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div>Hey,</div> <div>I recently did the network installation of Debian to a spare HD, and tried running it by itself in my PC, which usually runs windows. It boots into grub, but I get serveral different error messages at different times. I&#39;m never able to load the kernel, I believe. Here&#39;re the most common errors: </div> <div>Unable to handle kernal paging request</div> <div>Kernal Panic -- Not Syncing</div> <div>And another which only consists of addresses.</div> <div>I&#39;ve tried modifying grub.conf to try and find the kernel, but that didn&#39;t help.</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>Here&#39;re the specs on my system:<br>80GB Maxtor HD (With debian netinst&#39;d on it)</div> <div>1GB RAM</div> <div>Intel Celeron Processer, 2.7 ghz</div> <div>nVidia 6200 video card</div> <div>One CD-RW drive, one DVD-ROM drive</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>If you think you&#39;d be up to it, you could also give me a call by phone to help. (251)-978-1092</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div> <div>I&#39;d like it if anyone pretty experienced with Debian could help me.</div></div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>--Brad</div> ------=_Part_23945_26451305.1185742586012--

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:14:56 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: how to set network io priority for a process?\ Message-ID: <20070729211456.GA13759@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 01:54:36PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> Traffic "shaping" usually applies to output. "Policing"[0] usually applies
> to input. Since we often can't shape on the router transmitting data to
> us, in such cases we instead have to police on the receiving end and rely
> on the sender's TCP flow control to reduce rates to the point where
> packets aren't lost. This doesn't work for UDP and ICMP and works poorly
> for varying loads.
Right, but downloads happen by blocks. Couldn't something sit somewhere on the data stream and delay the requests for the net ftp or rsync block if there's an active http transfer in progress? In other words, controll the download bandwidth by throttling the rate of upbound requests. Doug. End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2059 ************************************************** Received on Sun Jul 29 17:36:55 2007

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