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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2064

Today's Topics: 

  Re: GTK+ File dialog hangs            [ Kumar Appaiah  ]
  Re: GTK+ File dialog hangs            [ Celejar  ]
  Re: IM on a home debian network       [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  Using HAL from Python?                [ "Andrew J. Barr"  ]
  [solved] Re: GTK+ File dialog hangs   [ Kumar Appaiah  ]
  Re: searching for graphical torrent   [ =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rog=E9rio?= Brito  ]
  Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?  [ "Andrew J. Barr"  ]
  Re: to netatalk+samba+nfs or not      [ "Martin Marcher" 

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:40:47 +0530


From: Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: GTK+ File dialog hangs


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On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 11:57:03AM -0400, Celejar wrote:

> I'm not seeing this when saving a simple file with mousepad (the GTK
> file dialog does take an annoyingly long time to start up, though,
> which I believe has been discussed on the list a while back).
Do you need help?X

OK, here's a narrowed down clue. This happens only when the "File
System" option is involved. When I do Edit->Preferences and choose
"File System" as the default save location, it just hangs in a similar
fashion. And my default save location happens to be "File Systems", so
it's hanging there (consistent with the earlier observation).



Further hints anyone?



Thanks!



Kumar


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458, Jamuna Hostel,


Indian Institute of Technology Madras,


Chennai - 600 036



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Can we help you?X

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:57:03 -0400


From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: GTK+ File dialog hangs

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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:07:05 +0530


Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in> wrote:


> Dear Debian user,
> 
> I am having this problem with the GTK+ file dialogs that whenever I
> try to save a file in any GTK+ based applications, it just keeps doing
> something and effectively hangs. Is someone else facing the same
> problem?
> 
> I am on sid, by the way.
> libgtk2.0-0 version 2.10.13-1
> 
> Thanks!

I'm not seeing this when saving a simple file with mousepad (the GTK
file dialog does take an annoyingly long time to start up, though,
which I believe has been discussed on the list a while back).



I'm also on Sid with the same libgtk2.0-0


> Kumar
> -- 
> Kumar Appaiah,

Celejar

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:20:41 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: IM on a home debian network
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On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:54:34PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:30:05PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> =20
> > and leave this VC 1 open.  VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or
> > 	$watch -n 20 "from -c"
> >=20
> > VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session).
> > VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to.
> >=20
> > There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt.

>=20

> Never heard of 'screen'?


I finally knuckled down and learned screen a few weeks ago and I've
never looked back. Its just ridiculously easy and convenient. And with
pubkey authentication, I'm never away from my desk. Its awesome.

A

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:23:52 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Compile Question
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On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 01:49:30PM -0600, Telly Williams wrote:

> The past day or so I've been learning to compile different programs.  It'=

s now something that seems very easy, which I thought was very hard prior t=
o this.
>=20

> I wanted to know if some of you find it better to compile your programs o=

r just apt-get install them?  I've been thinking about just compiling from =
now on since=20

> it gives me more options.  Thanks.


I'm entirely .debs except for gscpa (crappy webcam) modules built with
module-assistant and kqemu built from source, but only cause i haven't
bothered to install the deb yet. Once in a while if I'm hacking on
gnucash I'll build that from upstream source.

If you really want to compile everything and are doing this for fun
look at LFS (linux from scratch) or gentoo...=20

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:36:36 -0400
From: Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <ghostbar38@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Debian_Users List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
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Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote:

> Greetings,
>            I am aware that Iceweasel uses the same engine as Firefox fo=

r

> the operation, however, there seems to be problems with using Iceweasel=

> on sites like Ebay. When you are creating an item to sell and you get t=

o

> the product description section, you do not get the essential style and=

> format menu that shows in Firefox.

>=20

> 	Does anyone know why this would happen, or whether they have had the
> same problem and managed to overcome this??

>=20

> Many thanks. It's a bit hard to explain to the misses that firefox and
> iceweasel are the same, when they clearly are not !!  8-)

>=20
>=20
What changed is the name and logo in compilation time, nothing else,
maybe eBay makes a check of the browser header and don't recognize it.
(I doubt it because the header is the same, even the process name!)

Regards,
Jose Luis.
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:37:07 +0930
From: Stef Daniels VK5HSX <vk5hsx@wia.org.au>
To: Debian_Users List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
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Greetings,
           I am aware that Iceweasel uses the same engine as Firefox for
the operation, however, there seems to be problems with using Iceweasel
on sites like Ebay. When you are creating an item to sell and you get to
the product description section, you do not get the essential style and
format menu that shows in Firefox.

	Does anyone know why this would happen, or whether they have had the
same problem and managed to overcome this??

Many thanks. It's a bit hard to explain to the misses that firefox and
iceweasel are the same, when they clearly are not !!  8-)


-- 
Regards & Best 73,

Stef Daniels VK5HSX            - (OpenPGP: 0x828E2EB0)
Amateur Radio Station           
Adelaide, Sth Australia        - (vk5hsx@wia.org.au)
Member South Coast ARC Inc.    - (www.scarc.org.au)
Member Wireless Inst. of Aust  - (www.wia.org.au)



Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:57:38 +0200
From: Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
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Hi Stef.

Are you a Windows user?


Regards, Ma*scnr*thias


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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:30:35 -0400
From: "Andrew J. Barr" <andrew.james.barr@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Using HAL from Python?
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I am writing a small GTK+ StatusIcon application that manages internal
touchpads and external mice on laptops. I would like to interface with
HAL to detect when a USB mouse in plugged in--is anyone aware of
Python HAL bindings or are we just supposed to use python-dbus to talk
to HAL?

-- 
Andrew Barr

We matter more than pounds and pence,
your economic theory makes no sense...



Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:46:37 -0500
From: Preston Boyington <preston.lists@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
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Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:
<snipped>

> What changed is the name and logo in compilation time, nothing else


also be aware that some extensions don't like Iceweasel as opposed to
FireFox or SwiftFox.  this will hopefully change in the near future
since i suspect that it is looking for some type of "signature" or
browser ID to be passed along.



Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:06:36 +0530
From: Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GTK+ File dialog hangs
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 09:40:47PM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote:

> OK, here's a narrowed down clue. This happens only when the "File
> System" option is involved. When I do Edit->Preferences and choose
> "File System" as the default save location, it just hangs in a similar
> fashion. And my default save location happens to be "File Systems", so
> it's hanging there (consistent with the earlier observation).


And even further, if the default selection on the left is my home
directory, the moment I type "/" in the file name bar, it repeats the
hanging business.

Further hints?

Thanks in advance.

Kumar
-- 
Kumar Appaiah,
458, Jamuna Hostel,
Indian Institute of Technology Madras,
Chennai - 600 036



Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:08:36 +0530
From: Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: [solved] Re: GTK+ File dialog hangs
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 09:40:47PM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote:

> OK, here's a narrowed down clue. This happens only when the "File
> System" option is involved. When I do Edit->Preferences and choose
> "File System" as the default save location, it just hangs in a similar
> fashion. And my default save location happens to be "File Systems", so
> it's hanging there (consistent with the earlier observation).


OK, it was my mistake. ntlmaps was spewing files by the hundreds into
/. So, no wonder it was struggling.

Thanks.

Kumar
-- 
Kumar Appaiah,
458, Jamuna Hostel,
Indian Institute of Technology Madras,
Chennai - 600 036


Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:26:30 -0300
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rog=E9rio?= Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: searching for graphical torrent client
Message-ID: <20070730172630.GA14422@ime.usp.br>
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On Jul 28 2007, Michael M. wrote:

> Between aptitude, mc, rtorrent, cplay, and one or two others, I'm
> developing a real fondness for ncurses apps.


Then, you might want to check "Music on Console" (moc).

It is a really impressive program.


Regards, Rog=E9rio Brito.

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:34:15 -0300
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rog=E9rio?= Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: searching for graphical torrent client
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On Jul 27 2007, Kelly Clowers wrote:

> I haven't used it a lot yet, but transmission seem pretty good so far.
> It's available in the Debian repo.


One good thing about "transmission" (which I am not sure if it is
present on "rtorrent") is that it features peer exchange, which seems to
be an extension of Azureus to the bittorrent protocol.

Can anybody tell me if rtorrent has Distributed Hashtables (DHT), UPnP,
and peer exchange? If it has those features, I would have no need for
other clients.


Regards, Rog=E9rio Brito.

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:17:13 +0530
From: Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GTK+ File dialog hangs
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 12:35:08PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> The closest to that which I have seen is that the larger a directory
> gets, the longer it takes to open a GTK File dialog.  And it just
> burns up the CPU.  If there's more than 12000 files, the File dialog
> will "never" open.


And, as I have already pointed out, you have hit the jackpot, since
that was the very problem I faced. :-)

Thanks.

Kumar
--=20
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458, Jamuna Hostel,
Indian Institute of Technology Madras,
Chennai - 600 036

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:25:39 -0400
From: "Andrew J. Barr" <andrew.james.barr@gmail.com>
To: vk5hsx@wia.org.au
Cc: "Debian_Users List" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
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On 7/30/07, Stef Daniels VK5HSX <vk5hsx@wia.org.au> wrote:

> Greetings,
>            I am aware that Iceweasel uses the same engine as Firefox for
> the operation, however, there seems to be problems with using Iceweasel
> on sites like Ebay. When you are creating an item to sell and you get to
> the product description section, you do not get the essential style and
> format menu that shows in Firefox.


Go to about:config in Iceweasel.

Change the preference general.useragent.extra.firefox from
"Iceweasel/2.0.0.5" (or whatever your version is to "Firefox/2.0.0.5".

Then web sites won't be able to tell the difference, and FWIW you
should report the web site to it's owners as broken. User-agent
detection is broken behavior.

As far as extensions are concerned I have yet to run into an extension
that would not work in Iceweasel that works in Firefox. Again, if it's
making a distinction, it's broken behavior that should be reported to
the author(s) as a bug.

-- 
Andrew Barr

We matter more than pounds and pence,
your economic theory makes no sense...



Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:30:41 +0000
From: "Robert Cates" <cates58@hotmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: brad@fineby.me.uk
Subject: Re: new Etch install fails to boot
Message-ID: <BAY115-F23D223CB0B78471C4BED04A2EE0@phx.gbl>
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Hi,

I recently made a huge mistake, which might help you...
I did a apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade my Sarge server to Etch, and all 
seemed to go very well, but then I rebooted and Etch with the default 2.6.18 
kernel could/would not find my two NICs.  I then wiped everything and 
installed Fedora Core 6, same problem (pretty much the same kernel I 
believe), so I then re-installed Etch (from scratch) with still the same 
problem, until I decided to turn off (disable) the Power Management in the 
BIOS.

I think your problem was with bootup, but maybe this helps you out, if you 
haven't already found a solution.

Robert


>From: Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: new Etch install fails to boot
>Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:18:27 +0100
>
>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:07:36 -0400
>Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu> wrote:
>
>Hello Steve,
>

> > > Have you tried booting with a noapic option?  Older machines
> > > sometime require that;  Mine does, and it's a similar age to yours.
> > I haven't tried this, but I'll look into this and the other
> > suggestions I've received.  Thank you.

>
>TBH, it doesn't appear that your machine is getting far enough into the
>boot sequence for this to be an issue.
>
>Having said that, I'm no expert, so don't quote me on it.
>
>--

>  Regards  _
>          / )           "The blindingly obvious is
>         / _)rad        never immediately apparent"

>
>Black man got a lot of problems, but he don't mind throwing a brick
>White Riot - The Clash


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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:35:08 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GTK+ File dialog hangs
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On 07/30/07 10:57, Kumar Appaiah wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 10:41:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

>> You *know* that if all you say is "it just keeps doing something and
>> effectively hangs", you'll get fussed at for sending a useless message.

> 
> Right. The window becomes unusable, I am unable to regain control over
> the application, and am forced to kill it. The hard disk shows some
> activity initially, then the process uses the processor time
> sporadically increases and decreases for that application if I leave
> it running. Observed using top.
> 
> I can't describe it better. Sorry if this doesn't help.


The closest to that which I have seen is that the larger a directory
gets, the longer it takes to open a GTK File dialog.  And it just
burns up the CPU.  If there's more than 12000 files, the File dialog
will "never" open.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:38:11 +0200
From: "Martin Marcher" <martin.marcher@gmail.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: to netatalk+samba+nfs or not
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:45:22 +0200
From: "Martin Marcher" <martin.marcher@gmail.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: IM on a home debian network
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hi,

On 7/29/07, Jesus Arocho <jesus_arocho@comcast.net> wrote:

> I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server.  I run a
> combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server.  Is there
> a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network?#


as pointed out, jabber is imho _the_ solution. I prefer wildfire
(google: wildfire igniterealtime).

It's java but i found it to be the most painless one in
upgrading/maintaining and it has a bunch of usefull plugins included.

hth
martin

PS: with that option you'll also have the chance to stay with that
account should you ever decide to make it public/use it as a public
available service.

End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2064
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