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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2066

Today's Topics: 

  Re: mounting usb frustration          [ Bob McGowan  ]
  Debian can't mount Camera Memory Sti  [ Mike McCarty  ]
  Re: Debian can't mount Camera Memory  [ Mike McCarty  ]
  Re: A question of fonts               [ Florian Kulzer  ]
  Re: where is linux-2.6_2.6.22-2.diff [ andreimpopescu@gmail.com (Andrei Po ]   Re: Debian can't mount Camera Memory [ andreimpopescu@gmail.com (Andrei Po ]

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:30:03 -0700
From: Bob McGowan <bob_mcgowan@symantec.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: mounting usb frustration
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Haines Brown wrote:
> I mounted a USB flash card with a reader OK once, but failed the
> second time. With two hard disks, an external USB mass storage deveice
> and with a USB-key, all mounted using sda-sdd interfaces,
>
> # mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /media/reader
> mount: special device /dev/sde1 does not exist
>
> Indeed, udev has not generated any such interface. I have sdc, sdc1,
> sdd, sdd1, sde, sdf, sdf1. The sda and sdb interfaces are for hard
> disks.
>
> The flash card reader is seen on the USB bus and the necessary modules
> are loaded.
>
> But I get a very odd report from trying to mount sde1: :
>
> $ dmesg | tail
> sdf: assuming drive cache: write through
> SCSI device sdf: 234441648 512-byte hdwr sectors (120034 MB)
> sdf: Write Protect is off
> sdf: Mode Sense: 27 00 00 00
> sdf: assuming drive cache: write through sdf: sdf1
> sd 13:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdf
> usb-storage: device scan complete
> FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors
> VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sdb1.
>
> The message about FAT on sdb1 is correct, for it is ext2. Since udev
> had created a sdf1, if I try to mount using it:
>
> # mount -t vfat /dev/sdf1 /media/reader
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdf1,
> missing codepage or other error
> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
> dmesg | tail or so
>
> I get the sense that for some reason udev is not creating sde1, and so
> sdf and sdf1 are created, but can't be used. I'm running Etch, and
> udev is 0.105-4.
>

I've seen this sort of thing happen, when the system, for whatever reason, thinks the original device is still attached. The detection event for the second use is then given a new device node.

Do you need help?X

You may want to try running an 'fdisk' on the device names, to see which actually has partitions, and what their type(s) is(are). For example:

# fdisk -l /dev/sde

Disk /dev/sde: 65 MB, 65012224 bytes
8 heads, 32 sectors/track, 496 cylinders Units = cylinders of 256 * 512 = 131072 bytes 

    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sde1   *           1         484       61924+   1  FAT12
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
      phys=(499, 7, 32) logical=(483, 7, 32)

which will at least tell you the device name to use with the mount command, and the file system type. 

-- 
Bob McGowan

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:19:26 -0400 From: Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: new Etch install fails to boot Message-Id: <200707301919.PAA31107@syrano.acb.uc.edu> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 11:00:30PM -0400:
> [I wrote that my fresh Etch install calls grub and then stops.]
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:30:41 +0000, Robert Cates wrote:
> ... I then re-installed Etch (from scratch) with still the same
> problem, until I decided to turn off (disable) the Power Management in the
> BIOS.
>
> I think your problem was with bootup, but maybe this helps you out, if you
> haven't already found a solution.
Thanks, I'll keep this in mind.

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:48:01 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian can't mount Camera Memory Stick Message-ID: <20070730204800.GB31753@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pqZtgxSH0iQu6R78" Content-Disposition: inline --pqZtgxSH0iQu6R78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 03:37:58PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> My GF has a situation in which she cannot mount a camera memory
> stick. Here's the setup...
>
> CPU<--->HUB<--->Dazzle[<--Stick
>
> The HUB is from Radio Shack. The Dazzle is a device used to
> interface the memory stick with USB. The memory stick is
> a Sandisk 128 MB memory stick for a camera. Using her laptop
> and XP, with the same Dazzle and memory stick, it mounts
> just fine. With her desktop and Debian, it fails to mount.
>
> Also connected to the hub are a WD USB hard disc, and an HP printer,
> both of which work fine with Debian.
>
> Currently, she mounts using XP on the laptop, then e-mails the photos
> to herself over a dial-up, and then reads the mail back into Debian
> using an ADSL connection. Needless to say, this is not the desirable
> solution.
>
> When we try to mount that memory card, mount responds that it is
> unable to ascertain the file system type. It appears that fdisk
> is unable to read anything from it at all. OTOH, lsusb shows the
> Dazzle device. I have outputs from lsusb, fdisk, and dmesg, but they
> are somewhat lengthy.
>
> Any who are willing to help understand what to do to get this
> card to mount, I'll ship them by e-mail, or if consensus agrees
> to it, I'll post them here. They are a few kilobytes altogether.
send them to me directly if you want, but first: what is the output of=20 tail -f /var/log/syslog when started before plugging the device in until after its plugged and settled.=20 If this a regular flash memory stick/card? For example, my camera uses bog-standard compact flash cards (about 1.25 inches square by 1/8 in thick) and they plug into a standard card reader and mount as /dev/sda1 as a vfat device. Is that what we're trying to do? or is it some proprietary format device that doesn't plug into a standard cardreader?=20 A --pqZtgxSH0iQu6R78 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrk6AaIeIEqwil4YRAk11AKCGg0CQwlAD14FsMXRjtTX8m9/g6ACgqImw iP7b8sqGt4fNRfUNc+Z9d8M= =zPhL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pqZtgxSH0iQu6R78--

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:40:08 +0100 From: andy <geek_show@dsl.pipex.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: A question of fonts Message-ID: <46AE4CA8.2010907@dsl.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan Ianson wrote: >> Alan Ianson wrote: >> >> <snip>
> If you type env in a term what is lang= set to? You can adjust that setting by
> running "dpkg-reconfigure locales".
>
> I think etch uses utf-8 by default. A better solution would be if packages
> were utf-8 capable. It may be that xmms and iceweasel are not utf-8 aware but
> my knowledge if this stuff is sketcky at best.
> >
>
Hi Alan Thanks for the tips. I followed your suggestion and got, in part, this as a result of env LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 GDM_LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 How do I use this info to overcome what is really a lousy text display in something like Xmms, and some other apps I've tried? Cheers A -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:37:58 -0500 From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net> To: Debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Debian can't mount Camera Memory Stick Message-ID: <46AE4C26.6040001@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My GF has a situation in which she cannot mount a camera memory stick. Here's the setup... CPU<--->HUB<--->Dazzle[<--Stick The HUB is from Radio Shack. The Dazzle is a device used to interface the memory stick with USB. The memory stick is a Sandisk 128 MB memory stick for a camera. Using her laptop and XP, with the same Dazzle and memory stick, it mounts just fine. With her desktop and Debian, it fails to mount. Also connected to the hub are a WD USB hard disc, and an HP printer, both of which work fine with Debian. Currently, she mounts using XP on the laptop, then e-mails the photos to herself over a dial-up, and then reads the mail back into Debian using an ADSL connection. Needless to say, this is not the desirable solution. When we try to mount that memory card, mount responds that it is unable to ascertain the file system type. It appears that fdisk is unable to read anything from it at all. OTOH, lsusb shows the Dazzle device. I have outputs from lsusb, fdisk, and dmesg, but they are somewhat lengthy. Any who are willing to help understand what to do to get this card to mount, I'll ship them by e-mail, or if consensus agrees to it, I'll post them here. They are a few kilobytes altogether. Thanks all for your time. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:45:07 +0100 From: andy <geek_show@dsl.pipex.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: A question of fonts Message-ID: <46AE4DD3.5000809@dsl.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:28:13 +0100, andy wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>
>> I do have the latest msttcorefonts installed. It just looks crap with >> Xmms and sometimes Iceweasel seems difficult to read too. But >> certainly Xmms is the worst of the bunch. >> >
> This could also be a problem with your settings for font display rather
> than with the fonts themselves. I do not use XMMS, so here is a
> demonstration of the influence of font settings on iceweasel (PNG image,
> 55.6 KB):
>
> http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer/fontconfig/iceweasel-font-comparison.png
>
> Maybe you can post your font settings and we can have a look:
>
> awk '/fontconfig/,/^$/' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
>
> xrdb -query | grep Xft
>
>
Florian Thanks for the image - a picture is worth ... and all that jazz. Certainly, my font display is more like the image on the left. In response to the awk string: Name: fontconfig/enable_bitmaps Template: fontconfig/enable_bitmaps Value: false Owners: fontconfig-config Flags: seen Name: fontconfig/hinting_type Template: fontconfig/hinting_type Value: Autohinter Owners: fontconfig-config Flags: seen Name: fontconfig/subpixel_rendering Template: fontconfig/subpixel_rendering Value: Always Owners: fontconfig-config Flags: seen And in response to xrdb -query: Xft.antialias: 1 Xft.dpi: 120.000000 Xft.hinting: 1 Xft.hintstyle: hintfull Xft.rgba: none Any use? Cheers, Andy -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:41:58 -0500 From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net> To: Debian user list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Debian can't mount Camera Memory Stick Message-ID: <46AE4D16.6020605@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike McCarty wrote:
> My GF has a situation in which she cannot mount a camera memory
> stick. Here's the setup...
>
> CPU<--->HUB<--->Dazzle[<--Stick
>
> The HUB is from Radio Shack. The Dazzle is a device used to
> interface the memory stick with USB. The memory stick is
> a Sandisk 128 MB memory stick for a camera. Using her laptop
> and XP, with the same Dazzle and memory stick, it mounts
> just fine. With her desktop and Debian, it fails to mount.
[snip] I forgot to mention that she has a pendrive which mounts just fine using the same exact port on the hub into which we plug the Dazzle. Here's the line in /etc/fstab /dev/sdc1 /media/pendrive auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:37:52 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: pidgin problem Message-ID: <20070730203752.GA4417@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 11:01:54 +0800, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
> Dear all,
> I am using unstable brench. Today I did an "apt-get update; apt-get
> upgrade; reboot", then my pidgin can not response to keyboard at all. I can
> not key in anything, but my mouse works well (click, and paste text by
> right-click menu). And all other programs (firefox, and so on) have no
> problems.
Do you get any error messages if you start pidgin from a xterm? Is there anything in ~/.xsession-errors? -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:24:21 -0400 From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: searching for graphical torrent client Message-ID: <20070730202421.GA27045@buddy.mtntop.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rog=E9rio Brito(rbrito@ime.usp.br) is reported to have said:
> On Jul 27 2007, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> > I haven't used it a lot yet, but transmission seem pretty good so far.
> > It's available in the Debian repo.
>=20
> One good thing about "transmission" (which I am not sure if it is
> present on "rtorrent") is that it features peer exchange, which seems to
> be an extension of Azureus to the bittorrent protocol.
>=20
> Can anybody tell me if rtorrent has Distributed Hashtables (DHT), UPnP,
> and peer exchange? If it has those features, I would have no need for
> other clients.
Not that I can see. Ktorrent does though. - uTorrent compatible peer exchange - Port forwarding with UPnP=20 - Support for distributed hash tables (mainline version) More info with apt-cache show ktorrent, of course. Wayne --=20 How an engineer writes a program: Start by debugging an empty file... _______________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:18:25 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: A question of fonts Message-ID: <20070730211825.GA4579@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 21:45:07 +0100, andy wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
[...] >> This could also be a problem with your settings for font display rather >> than with the fonts themselves. [...] >> Maybe you can post your font settings and we can have a look: >> >> awk '/fontconfig/,/^$/' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat >> >> xrdb -query | grep Xft >> >>
> Florian
>
> Thanks for the image - a picture is worth ... and all that jazz. Certainly,
> my font display is more like the image on the left.
To produce the ugly image I turned off all hinting and anitaliasing. I also enabled bitmap fonts which are normally disabled on my system. I normally use Bitstream Vera Sans or Deja Vu Sans as the user interface font.
> In response to the awk string:
>
> Name: fontconfig/enable_bitmaps
> Value: false
I think this is the correct choice.
> Name: fontconfig/hinting_type
> Value: Autohinter
Maybe you should try "Native" here. You can change these settings with "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config". (There will be a dialog with multiple choices.) I think you have to restart X to see the effect of a changed setting.
> Name: fontconfig/subpixel_rendering
> Value: Always
That should be OK for LCD displays. If all else fails you could try "Never" or "Automatic".
> And in response to xrdb -query:
>
> Xft.antialias: 1
> Xft.dpi: 120.000000
> Xft.hinting: 1
> Xft.hintstyle: hintfull
> Xft.rgba: none
Strange, those are exactly the Xft seetings which I used for the nice half of the picture. (Except for Xft.dpi, but that depends on the display of course.) If you get jagged fonts in this configuration, then maybe these settings are ignored for some reason. I know that some DEs can override these settings under certain conditions. Which DE or WM are you using and how do you start X? Also, if the file ".fonts.conf" exists in your home directory, can you post its contents? -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:44:42 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: GTK+ File dialog hangs Message-ID: <46AE5BCA.2020703@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/30/07 12:43, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 12:35:08PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>> The closest to that which I have seen is that the larger a directory >> gets, the longer it takes to open a GTK File dialog. And it just >> burns up the CPU. If there's more than 12000 files, the File dialog >> will "never" open. >>
>
> Wow. I've never had a single directory with 12000 files. What file
> dialog have you tried that does work?
The file picker *used* to handle large directories very well. It went south around GNOME 2.16, I think. :(
> How do KDE file dialogs handle
> it?
Can't say. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrlvKS9HxQb37XmcRAoDKAJ9cX0X6Fr5KnoAA5qXOpQ045KQ42ACfTWun oxDjA2a9laNQoTrUb/Xaqzg= =akvy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:03:43 +0300 From: andreimpopescu@gmail.com (Andrei Popescu) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: where is linux-2.6_2.6.22-2.diff.gz? Message-ID: <20070730220343.GA9439@think> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 07:32:06AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: =20
> But why there and not in ftp.debian.org?
I think Joey Hess mentioned some problems with ftp.d.o, but you might=20 want to search the archives for the exact quote. Regards, Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrmA/qJyztHCFm9kRAgs2AJ9Pj6ILIx78fXkZnzuiguvrcf0S7wCfeDlE 4jKIG6xv3McM/DWlENRDzNw= =gWzt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo--

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:15:21 +0300 From: andreimpopescu@gmail.com (Andrei Popescu) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian can't mount Camera Memory Stick Message-ID: <20070730221521.GB9439@think> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB" Content-Disposition: inline --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 03:37:58PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> My GF has a situation in which she cannot mount a camera memory
> stick. Here's the setup...
>=20
> CPU<--->HUB<--->Dazzle[<--Stick
>=20
> The HUB is from Radio Shack. The Dazzle is a device used to
> interface the memory stick with USB. The memory stick is
> a Sandisk 128 MB memory stick for a camera. Using her laptop
> and XP, with the same Dazzle and memory stick, it mounts
> just fine. With her desktop and Debian, it fails to mount.
Since it does work on Windows it is probably not a hardware issue, but=20 did you try to connect the Dazzle directly to the USB port? Also I've=20 heard (on this list) about some strange formating issues, where=20 reformating the USB memory thingy solved the problem ... Regards, Andrei --=20 If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrmL5qJyztHCFm9kRAowPAJ9kI8TzrbfPMJhM//NP0vdEPpIQpACgh3O/ 3ZJ/jgC16FzxJrwkSxXK3Qg= =C0MK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB-- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2066 ************************************************** Received on Mon Jul 30 18:38:34 2007

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