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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2072

Today's Topics: 

  how to save a caneva                  [ "abdelkader belahcene" 
  Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?  [ Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwe ]
  Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?  [ Anson Gardner <ansongardner@poncaci ]



Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:53:20 +0100


From: "abdelkader belahcene" <abelahcene@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: how to save a caneva

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Hi,


 I use fltk (C++ graphical interface) to create an electronics design
package. I created a list of objects and placed them on a window.



My problem is how to save the file, I think to create a list in memory
for the objects placed on the sheet and store them in a file.



 I think (not sure of course) that xfig   for example uses this procedure ?


Do you need help?X

Please whould you like give me how to  do it or where can I find it a
simple example or doc.



 thank you


 bela



Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:54:43 -0700


From: Bert Schulze <potassium.xyanide@googlemail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Setfont


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On 30 Jul., 19:50, "Loeghmon T. Nejad" <loegh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a minimal installation of Debian Etch (with xserver-xorg-core
> installed) that gives me an error message when I run the script -at the
> bottom of this email.
> The message says,
> "
> setfont: command not found
> mapscrn: command not found
> "

Hi,



as the script tells you, it cant locate those two binaries. Now the
question is: is your PATH environment set correctly to find binaries
in /bin /usr/bin etc? Or did you just miss to have the needed packages
which contain them?



apt-file search setfont|grep bin


kbd: usr/bin/setfont


kbd-compat: usr/bin/setfont


Do you need more help?X

$ apt-file search mapscrn|grep bin


kbd: usr/bin/mapscrn


kbd-compat: usr/bin/mapscrn



so install kbd and try again (;



Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:38:56 +0100


From: "Karl E. Jorgensen" <karl@jorgensen.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: dpkg purge problem


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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 01:15:19AM +0300, Sasho Angelov wrote:

> When I try to purge old linux image:
>=20
> sudo dpkg --purge --force-all linux-image-2.6.14-2-k7

Why --force-all ?


Can we help you?X
> (Reading database ... 259033 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing linux-image-2.6.14-2-k7 ...
> Purging configuration files for linux-image-2.6.14-2-k7 ...
> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
> Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default
> Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-1-k7
> Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
>=20
>      And stop here. Only I can do is to press Ctrl+C
>      then result is:
> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.14-2-k7 (--purge):
>  subprocess post-removal script killed by signal (Interrupt)
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  linux-image-2.6.14-2-k7
>=20
>=20
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux- image-2.6.14-2-k7.list is empty file
>=20
> What to do???

Which debconf frontend do you use? I've had that happen to me when I=20
"accidentally" used the GNOME front-end. Not a problem, unless you're on=20
a virtual console and DISPLAY is set - then it shows the GUI on the X=20
display that I'm not looking at.... Took me a while to figure out...



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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:49:10 +0530


From: "Alpesh Rodage" <alpeshrodage@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: NPTL issues w/ stable


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Try resetting environment variable GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION
export GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION=""




Then check for thread version again.


getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION



e.g.


getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION

NPTL 0.61


If this tells you the version of threads is NTPL then this will solve
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Try resetting environment variable GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION
export GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION=""

Don't know where to look next?X



</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"></font><pre style="margin: 0em; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><br>Then check for thread version again.<br>getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION<br><br>e.g.<br>getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:33:43 -0500


From: Matt Zagrabelny <mzagrabe@d.umn.edu>
To: Ashivni Shekhawat <shekhawat.ashivni@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user-digest@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Not able to find qwtplot3D


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On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 19:46 -0500, Ashivni Shekhawat wrote:=20

> Hi!
>    I am new to Debian. I have trying to install qwtplot3d on my
> machine; however I get the following error:
>=20
> # apt-get install qwtplot3d
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> E: Couldn't find package qwtplot3d
>=20
> The package qwtplot3d is available on ftp.debian.org at
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/q/qwtplot3d/

if you look at the .deb files in that directory you will see that there
is no *binary* package by the name "qwtplot3d". qwtplot3d is the
*source* package for a bunch of binary packages (their corresponding
files all begin with libqwtplot3d and end in .deb).



also if you look you will see that there are only amd64 and i386 binary
packages. if you are running a different architecture than those, you
will have to wait for the debian build system to create the packages or
compile them yourself.



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University of Minnesota Duluth


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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:09:50 -0400


From: "Luis Finotti" <finotti.deb@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Disabling Print Screen key

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Hi,



My Print Screen key is too close to BackSpace, so I keep pressing it
by accident.  I use KDE, and this makes "KSnapshoyt" pop up.  (In
fluxbox, it sends the content of the terminal to the printer.)



I checked the key assignments of KDE, and I found no shortcut for the
PrtSc key, and even defining a different application for that key
would still make (only) KSnapshot pop up.  (KSnapshot was assigned to
Crtl+PrtSc, and I disabled it too, just in case.)



My Google searchs did not help (even on this list).


Do you need help?X

So, I decided to disable the key.



Using "xev", I saw that the keycode was 111:



....


KeyRelease event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x3600001,


    root 0x91, subw 0x0, time 482199882, (485,527), root:(489,552),
    state 0x0, keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 bytes:


....



Indeed, "xmodmap -pk" gave:



...


    111         0xff61 (Print)  0xff15 (Sys_Req)
...



So, I did "xmodmap -e "keysym Print = BackSpace"".  Now, "xev" gives:


Do you need more help?X

....


KeyRelease event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x3400001,


    root 0x91, subw 0x0, time 482660638, (-260,401), root:(838,426),
    state 0x0, keycode 111 (keysym 0xff08, BackSpace), same_screen YES,
    XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 22
    XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (08) "


....



and  "xmodmap -pk" gives:



...


    111         0xff08 (BackSpace)


...



But still, KSnapshot pops up, and the backspace has no effect.



Any suggestions or ideas (other than remove the key physically)??



Thanks,


Can we help you?X

Luis



Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:53:01 +0530


From: arijit sarkar <arijit.2612@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?

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Paul Johnson wrote:

> On Jul 30, 8:30 pm, arijit sarkar <arijit.2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> As far as I know, Iceweasel is Firefox without the "Talkback" component,
>> which is not open and matches debian-philosophy.
>>     
>
> The name and logo are also nonfree in Firefox.
>
>   


thanks for the correction. :)



Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:46:30 +0300


From: andreimpopescu@gmail.com (Andrei Popescu)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 04:39:47PM +0930, Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote:
=20

> > Then web sites won't be able to tell the difference, and FWIW you
> > should report the web site to it's owners as broken. User-agent
> > detection is broken behavior.
>=20
> I feel it's the website not knowing the browser, hense, unable to render
> the page properly. Thanks.

IIUC websites shouldn't care about/need to know what browser is used, as=20
long as they are following the standards.



Regards,


Andrei


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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:04:42 +0300


From: andreimpopescu@gmail.com (Andrei Popescu)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Part3: More problems.


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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 02:03:54AM -0500, Brad B wrote:

> Thanks for helping me. I installed both of those, and it got past request=

ing

> libc!
> Now, it's requesting the kernel source, which i can't seem to find the
> appropriate version of.

'uname -a' will tell you the running kernel. I have:



$ uname -a


Linux think 2.6.22-1-686 #1 SMP Mon Jul 23 13:23:02 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux



So the kernel source is probably linux-source-2.6.22



BTW, please use the reply feature of your mail client if it's about the=20
same problem, start new messages for different problems.



Regards,


Andrei


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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:09:54 -0400


From: Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <ghostbar38@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Part3: More problems.


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Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 02:03:54AM -0500, Brad B wrote:
>> Thanks for helping me. I installed both of those, and it got past requ=

esting

>> libc!
>> Now, it's requesting the kernel source, which i can't seem to find the=
>> appropriate version of.
>=20
> 'uname -a' will tell you the running kernel. I have:
>=20
> $ uname -a
> Linux think 2.6.22-1-686 #1 SMP Mon Jul 23 13:23:02 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/L=

inux

>=20
> So the kernel source is probably linux-source-2.6.22
Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

Maybe installing `linux-headers-2.6.22' could be enough since this
package install the source in `/usr/src/'... Please try this option
first instead of installing linux-source.



Regards,


Jose Luis.


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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:09:06 -0700


From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Debian Etch apache2 virtual host problem
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 09:30:38AM -0000, rocky wrote:

> Hey,
>=20
> I'm runing Debian etch with apache2 on it. To make the server host
> many website I added the following code to the end of /etc/apache2/
> apache2.conf
> ----------------------Code
> begin--------------------------------------------------------------
> NameVirtualHost *
> <VirtualHost *>
>         # Basic setup
>         ServerAdmin webmaster@workzone.com
>         ServerName www.workzone.com
>         DocumentRoot /var/www/workzone/htdocs
>=20
>=20
>         # HTML documents, with indexing.
>         <Directory />
>         Options +Includes
>         </Directory>
>=20
>         # CGI Handling
>         ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/workzone/cgi-bin/
>         <Location /cgi-bin>
>                 Options +ExecCGI
>         </Location>
>=20
>         # Logfiles
>         ErrorLog  /var/www/workzone/logs/error.log
>         CustomLog /var/www/workzone/logs/access.log combined
> </VirtualHost>
> ---------------------------------Code
> End----------------------------------------
> The command apache2ctl configtest tells me "[Fri Jan 01 11:55:20 1999]
> [warn] NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts
> Syntax OK"

you have not specified any virtual hosts. something like:




<VirtualHost 192.168.2.3:80>

        ServerName blah.foo.com
        DocumentRoot /var/www/root/of/blah
        CustomLog /var/log/apache2/access.log combined


</VirtualHost>



would be in order with a different block with unique ServerName for
each virtual host you want.=20



see http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/vhosts/name-based.html

might be helpful



A


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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:18:00 -0700


From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: etch installation probs (CD?)
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 09:27:33AM +0100, michael wrote:


> On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 07:41 -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > On Mon July 30 2007 07:10, michael wrote:
> > > Folks, I've a new machine with a "writemaster" CDROM drive. When tryi=

ng

> > > to install Debian 4.0 from iso image burnt to CD, it initially
> > > recognises the CD and starts the installation but fails at the screen
> > > where the CD drive is to be recognised (for continuing the
> > > installation). I've tried various module/device combos but all to no
> > > avail. I've looked about on Google but not come up with a working
> > > solution.
> > >
> > > Has anybody else successfully uses this CDROM drive to install Debian,
> > > or have suggestions on how I can determine a working module/device
> > > combo. Please let me know if you need any further information.
> >=20
> > I've installed etch amd64 and i386 successfully many times. I'm not sur=

e what=20

> > the problem is but you might be able to use the daily install from test=

ing to=20

> > get going. You can get the it from here..
> >=20
> > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/i=

so-cd/

> >=20
> > If you get the businesscard iso and boot it in expert mode it will prom=

pt you=20

> > if you want to install stable, testing or unstable. I would try to inst=

all=20

> > stable and if your successful run "apt-cdrom add" for your cd or dvd im=

ages=20

> > after you boot and install whatever else you want.
> >=20
> > That image contains nothing but the installer, you need to have an acti=

ve=20

> > network connection to install with it.
>=20
> I've just tried the 'debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso' (build 30 July
> 2007) but it also fails on recognising the CD and network...

I've seen this before on this list. There are some motherboards now
that have changed the way CD's work. Essentially, they are available
as boot devices, but once the boot starts, the CD drive is no longer
available. Something to do with it not being a true IDE interface, but
emulated IDE over SATA or something and then the bios hides it or some
other goblety-gook like that. I don't think changing the CD drive is
going to help one bit.=20


Can we help you?X

A few things you could try: booting from USB with some kind of
bootable media with the installer on it there; dragging the harddrive
to a different machine and donig the base install there and then
completing it on the new machine (warning, this may require more than
just an install -- you may need to build special initrd's to include
_ALL_ modules to boot on the new machine); scrounge a floppy drive and
use the netinstall floppies to get yourself going; setting up the
installer on a network and netbooting into it.=20



Can you get a live-cd to boot? I'd be surprised as I assume they
suffer from the same problem, but if you could get one to go, then use
debootstrap to install.



There may be other solutions, but that's what I've got.



good luck



A



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Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:21:28 -0700


From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Debian 4.0 on AMD64 and SATA with multi-arch DVD
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 01:07:32PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:

> * Masatran, R. Deepak <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in> 2007-07-23
> > I just installed Debian 4.0, on an AMD64 computer that has a SATA hard
> > drive, from the multi-architecture DVD. I used "expert" at the first pr=

ompt,

> > since "amd64-expert" was giving errors. I chose the 2.6-amd64 kernel du=

ring

> > installation.
> >=20
> > Installation completed successfully, but when it is booted, the console
> > locks up, the kernel panics, and it stops responding. I tried some fidd=

ling

> > with the parameters in the "kernel" line in GRUB, but it did not help.
> > Kindly suggest a solution.
>=20
> I reinstalled Debian using "amd64-expertgui" at the first prompt, using t=

he

> same DVD. The reinstall completed successfully, but it is unable to boot.
> When I add to the "kernel" line in GRUB, I get:
>=20
> ADDITION:                    RESULT

>=20
>  1. nothing:                 Kernel panic
>  2. noapic nolapic:          Kernel panic
>  3. acpi=3Doff:                SATA internal errors
>  4. acpi=3Doff noapic nolapic: SATA internal errors
>=20
> "Kernel panic" looks like this:
>=20
>     Code: <pairs of hexadecimal digits>
>     Console shuts up ...
>     <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler
>=20
> I could not find any hardware problem. The hard drive is a Seagate 7200.10
> 300 giga-byte SATA. The whole computer is new.
>=20
> Searching the web showed that similar problems were tackled by
> adding/removing kernel modules. Can this be solved by adding/removing ker=

nel

> modules?

if that is the case then you're probably dealing with a situation
where the proper modules are not being used in the initrd to get the
root filesystem up. you could boot a live-cd and chroot into the
system to rebuild the initrd's making sure to include all the modules,
or at least ensuring that you include the right modules...


>=20
> ALSO: I want to try the 486 linux-image, but dpkg refuses to install it,
> saying that that package is only for I386. How can I install the 486
> linux-image on my AMD64 computer?

I'm confused. do you have more than one AMD64 computer? or does your
kernel panic above only happen sometimes?


Confused? Frustrated?X

A



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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:25:40 -0700


From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
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Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 10:55:45AM -0500, Anson Gardner wrote:

>=20
> > >
> > > Change the preference general.useragent.extra.firefox from
> > > "Iceweasel/2.0.0.5" (or whatever your version is to "Firefox/2.0.0.5".
> >
> > Worked like a treat, thanks!!
> >
> > > Then web sites won't be able to tell the difference, and FWIW you
> > > should report the web site to it's owners as broken. User-agent
> > > detection is broken behavior.
> >
> > I feel it's the website not knowing the browser, hense, unable to render
> > the page properly. Thanks.
> >
>=20
> Not to get all gripey or anything, but there are web standards for precis=

ely=20

> this reason. See http://www.w3.org

Having just put together my first real webpage (still pretty basic)
let me tell you (I'm sure you know) its a royal PITA. I've had to make
an extra stylesheet just for stupid IE and then put a check for IE in
the headers. Thankfully it was pretty simple and I end up with a page
that renders "okay" in IE and looks great in everything else. I told
my "customer" (heh, step-mother) that if it got any more complicated
that I wasn't going to support IE and we'd just put up a redirect to
mozilla. She doesn't understand but, what can you do. I'm not going to
go down that road.



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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:55:45 -0500


From: Anson Gardner <ansongardner@poncacity.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
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Do you need help?X
> >
> > Change the preference general.useragent.extra.firefox from
> > "Iceweasel/2.0.0.5" (or whatever your version is to "Firefox/2.0.0.5".
>
> Worked like a treat, thanks!!
>
> > Then web sites won't be able to tell the difference, and FWIW you
> > should report the web site to it's owners as broken. User-agent
> > detection is broken behavior.
>
> I feel it's the website not knowing the browser, hense, unable to render
> the page properly. Thanks.
>

Not to get all gripey or anything, but there are web standards for precisely 
this reason. See http://www.w3.org

Regards,



Anson Gardner



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