Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:45:17 +0200
From: Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
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Hi Andrew.
Andrew Sackville-West, 31.07.2007 18:25:
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 10:55:45AM -0500, Anson Gardner wrote:
>>>> Change the preference general.useragent.extra.firefox from
>>>> "Iceweasel/2.0.0.5" (or whatever your version is to "Firefox/2.0.0.5=
".
>>> Worked like a treat, thanks!!
>>>
>>>> Then web sites won't be able to tell the difference, and FWIW you
>>>> should report the web site to it's owners as broken. User-agent
>>>> detection is broken behavior.
>>> I feel it's the website not knowing the browser, hense, unable to ren=
der
>>> the page properly. Thanks.
>>>
>> Not to get all gripey or anything, but there are web standards for pre=
cisely=20
>> this reason. See
http://www.w3.org
>=20
> Having just put together my first real webpage (still pretty basic)
> let me tell you (I'm sure you know) its a royal PITA. I've had to make
> an extra stylesheet just for stupid IE and then put a check for IE in
> the headers.
No good solution, since headers can be manipulated at will. You better us=
e
Conditional Comments[0] which only IE=E2=80=99s > 5.0 understand.
Regards, Mathias
[0] http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537512.aspx
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:10:33 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 06:45:17PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> Hi Andrew.
>=20
> Andrew Sackville-West, 31.07.2007 18:25:
> > On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 10:55:45AM -0500, Anson Gardner wrote:
=2E..
> >>>
> >> Not to get all gripey or anything, but there are web standards for pre=
cisely=20
> >> this reason. See http://www.w3.org
> >=20
> > Having just put together my first real webpage (still pretty basic)
> > let me tell you (I'm sure you know) its a royal PITA. I've had to make
> > an extra stylesheet just for stupid IE and then put a check for IE in
> > the headers.
>=20
> No good solution, since headers can be manipulated at will. You better use
> Conditional Comments[0] which only IE=E2=80=99s > 5.0 understand.
>=20
>=20
> Regards, Mathias
>=20
>=20
> [0] http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537512.aspx
how telling it is that the above link start with:=20
"One of the most common operations performed in a Web page is to detect
the browser type and version. Browser detection is performed to ensure
that the content presented to the browser is compatible and renders
correctly...."
anyway, what I'm doing is:=20
within the <head> tag. It seems to work pretty well, and i suspect I'm
a victim of not knowing the right terminology. I also suspect, since I
don't have access to IE7, that it doesn't work properly for that.
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:17:00 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: etch installation probs (CD?)
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 05:53:16PM +0100, michael wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 09:18 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 09:27:33AM +0100, michael wrote:
> > >=20
> > > I've just tried the 'debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso' (build 30 July
> > > 2007) but it also fails on recognising the CD and network...
> >=20
> > I've seen this before on this list. There are some motherboards now
> > that have changed the way CD's work.
[ a bunch of potential solutions...]
> The machine came with fedora on (which can read (and write) to the
> CD/DVD drive). If I burn a ubuntu installer CD that can use the CD okay
> too (I've not fully installed ubuntu at this moment). I'll check what
> debootstrap does.=20
well the fedora was probably imaged and not installed. Any debian
based live-cd will likely come with debootstrap. I know knoppix has it
and I'm sure ubuntu's live-cd does as well. So debootstrap sets up a
minimal installation in a chroot that you designate. The installer
manual has details. I have used it several times with good results.=20
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:51:35 -0300
From: "Allan Senna Porto" <allan.porto@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: PAM + LDAP and SSH
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Hi,
Anyone know about problems with /etc/security/access.conf and
SSH in Etch?
I'm trying to block ldap users to access my servers, but
everything that I made don't block user to loggin.
If I use this to /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.d/gdm, the
user can't loggin.
Allan
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:53:16 +0100
From: michael <cs@networkingnewsletter.org.uk>
To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: etch installation probs (CD?)
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On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 09:18 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 09:27:33AM +0100, michael wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 07:41 -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > > On Mon July 30 2007 07:10, michael wrote:
> > > > Folks, I've a new machine with a "writemaster" CDROM drive. When trying
> > > > to install Debian 4.0 from iso image burnt to CD, it initially
> > > > recognises the CD and starts the installation but fails at the screen
> > > > where the CD drive is to be recognised (for continuing the
> > > > installation). I've tried various module/device combos but all to no
> > > > avail. I've looked about on Google but not come up with a working
> > > > solution.
> > > >
> > > > Has anybody else successfully uses this CDROM drive to install Debian,
> > > > or have suggestions on how I can determine a working module/device
> > > > combo. Please let me know if you need any further information.
> > >
> > > I've installed etch amd64 and i386 successfully many times. I'm not sure what
> > > the problem is but you might be able to use the daily install from testing to
> > > get going. You can get the it from here..
> > >
> > > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/
> > >
> > > If you get the businesscard iso and boot it in expert mode it will prompt you
> > > if you want to install stable, testing or unstable. I would try to install
> > > stable and if your successful run "apt-cdrom add" for your cd or dvd images
> > > after you boot and install whatever else you want.
> > >
> > > That image contains nothing but the installer, you need to have an active
> > > network connection to install with it.
> >
> > I've just tried the 'debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso' (build 30 July
> > 2007) but it also fails on recognising the CD and network...
>
> I've seen this before on this list. There are some motherboards now
> that have changed the way CD's work. Essentially, they are available
> as boot devices, but once the boot starts, the CD drive is no longer
> available. Something to do with it not being a true IDE interface, but
> emulated IDE over SATA or something and then the bios hides it or some
> other goblety-gook like that. I don't think changing the CD drive is
> going to help one bit.
>
> A few things you could try: booting from USB with some kind of
> bootable media with the installer on it there; dragging the harddrive
> to a different machine and donig the base install there and then
> completing it on the new machine (warning, this may require more than
> just an install -- you may need to build special initrd's to include
> _ALL_ modules to boot on the new machine); scrounge a floppy drive and
> use the netinstall floppies to get yourself going; setting up the
> installer on a network and netbooting into it.
>
> Can you get a live-cd to boot? I'd be surprised as I assume they
> suffer from the same problem, but if you could get one to go, then use
> debootstrap to install.
>
> There may be other solutions, but that's what I've got.
The machine came with fedora on (which can read (and write) to the
CD/DVD drive). If I burn a ubuntu installer CD that can use the CD okay
too (I've not fully installed ubuntu at this moment). I'll check what
debootstrap does.
Thanks, Michael
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:30:16 +0200
From: Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
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Hi Andrew.
Andrew Sackville-West, 31.07.2007 19:10:
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 06:45:17PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote:
>> Hi Andrew.
>>
>> Andrew Sackville-West, 31.07.2007 18:25:
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 10:55:45AM -0500, Anson Gardner wrote:
>>>> Not to get all gripey or anything, but there are web standards for p=
recisely=20
>>>> this reason. See
http://www.w3.org
>>> Having just put together my first real webpage (still pretty basic)
>>> let me tell you (I'm sure you know) its a royal PITA. I've had to mak=
e
>>> an extra stylesheet just for stupid IE and then put a check for IE in=
>>> the headers.
>> No good solution, since headers can be manipulated at will. You better=
use
>> Conditional Comments[0] which only IE=E2=80=99s > 5.0 understand.
>>
>> [0]
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537512.aspx
>=20
> how telling it is that the above link start with:=20
>=20
> "One of the most common operations performed in a Web page is to detect=
> the browser type and version. Browser detection is performed to ensure
> that the content presented to the browser is compatible and renders
> correctly...."
>=20
> anyway, what I'm doing is:=20
>=20
> <!--[if lte IE 6]>
> <link href=3D"ie-web.css" rel=3D"stylesheet" type=3D"text/css">
> <![endif]-->
OK, so you are using CC=E2=80=99s.
> within the <head> tag. It seems to work pretty well, and i suspect I'm
> a victim of not knowing the right terminology. I also suspect, since I
> don't have access to IE7, that it doesn't work properly for that.
Heard about IEs4Linux[1]? It makes testing in IE7 pretty simple. (For IE7=
you
need the beta.)
Regards, Mathias
[1] http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:43:18 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences?
Message-ID: <20070731174318.GN31753@localhost.localdomain>
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 07:30:16PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> Hi Andrew.
>=20
> Andrew Sackville-West, 31.07.2007 19:10:
> > On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 06:45:17PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> >> Hi Andrew.
> >>
> >> Andrew Sackville-West, 31.07.2007 18:25:
> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 10:55:45AM -0500, Anson Gardner wrote:
> >>>> Not to get all gripey or anything, but there are web standards for p=
recisely=20
> >>>> this reason. See http://www.w3.org
> >>> Having just put together my first real webpage (still pretty basic)
> >>> let me tell you (I'm sure you know) its a royal PITA. I've had to make
> >>> an extra stylesheet just for stupid IE and then put a check for IE in
> >>> the headers.
> >> No good solution, since headers can be manipulated at will. You better=
use
> >> Conditional Comments[0] which only IE=E2=80=99s > 5.0 understand.
> >>
> >> [0] http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537512.aspx
> >=20
> > how telling it is that the above link start with:=20
> >=20
> > "One of the most common operations performed in a Web page is to detect
> > the browser type and version. Browser detection is performed to ensure
> > that the content presented to the browser is compatible and renders
> > correctly...."
> >=20
> > anyway, what I'm doing is:=20
> >=20
> > <!--[if lte IE 6]>
> > <link href=3D"ie-web.css" rel=3D"stylesheet" type=3D"text/css">
> > <![endif]-->
>=20
> OK, so you are using CC=E2=80=99s.
>=20
> > within the <head> tag. It seems to work pretty well, and i suspect I'm
> > a victim of not knowing the right terminology. I also suspect, since I
> > don't have access to IE7, that it doesn't work properly for that.
>=20
> Heard about IEs4Linux[1]? It makes testing in IE7 pretty simple. (For IE7=
you
> need the beta.)
hmmm... very interesting but it makes my toes curl to think of
installing IE... What I really need to do it duplicate my windows qemu
image and upgrade IE in one of the two images. That makes me happier,
having that segregation...
thanks for the pointer though, I will research it more.
A
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:20:23 -0300
From: Sergio Belkin <sebelk@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: After installing mindi system won't boot
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I am testing mindi and mondo, but after installing mindi, install mdadm too,
and asked me some question referred to raid (I think so), well I answered
either no or none to questions, and after reboot, it seems that kernel search
for raids, but I have one single disk, and it stops searching for a root
filesystem or something so...
These are the output:
dpkg-reconfigure mdadm
Stopping MD monitoring service: mdadm --monitor.
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-4-amd64
W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
W: mdadm: please read /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz .
W: mdadm: no arrays defined in configuration file.
W: mdadm: falling back to emergency procedure in initramfs.
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-3-686
W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
W: mdadm: please read /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz .
W: mdadm: no arrays defined in configuration file.
W: mdadm: falling back to emergency procedure in initramfs.
Assembling MD arrays...done (disabled in /etc/default/mdadm).
And the mdam.conf looks as follows:
# mdadm.conf
#
# Please refer to mdadm.conf(5) for information about this file.
#
# by default, scan all partitions (/proc/partitions) for MD superblocks.
# alternatively, specify devices to scan, using wildcards if desired.
DEVICE partitions
# auto-create devices with Debian standard permissions
CREATE owner=root group=disk mode=0660 auto=yes
# automatically tag new arrays as belonging to the local system
HOMEHOST <system>
# instruct the monitoring daemon where to send mail alerts
MAILADDR root
# This file was auto-generated on Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:15:17 -0300
# by mkconf $Id: mkconf 261 2006-11-09 13:32:35Z madduck $
kubaru:~# dpkg-reconfigure mdadm
Stopping MD monitoring service: mdadm --monitor.
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-4-amd64
W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
W: mdadm: please read /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz .
W: mdadm: no arrays defined in configuration file.
W: mdadm: falling back to emergency procedure in initramfs.
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-3-686
W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
W: mdadm: please read /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz .
W: mdadm: no arrays defined in configuration file.
W: mdadm: falling back to emergency procedure in initramfs.
Assembling MD arrays...done (disabled in /etc/default/mdadm).
kubaru:~# cat /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
# mdadm.conf
#
# Please refer to mdadm.conf(5) for information about this file.
#
# by default, scan all partitions (/proc/partitions) for MD superblocks.
# alternatively, specify devices to scan, using wildcards if desired.
DEVICE partitions
# auto-create devices with Debian standard permissions
CREATE owner=root group=disk mode=0660 auto=yes
# automatically tag new arrays as belonging to the local system
HOMEHOST <system>
# instruct the monitoring daemon where to send mail alerts
MAILADDR root
# This file was auto-generated on Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:15:17 -0300
# by mkconf $Id: mkconf 261 2006-11-09 13:32:35Z madduck $
Well I don't understand why this happened, I only wanted to test mindi, not
configure raid, how I restore my earlier booting config,
--Please help to recover the typical bot with no raid :'(
--
Sergio Belkin
----------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:35:02 -0400
From: Ron Peterson <rpeterso@mtholyoke.edu>
To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: PAM + LDAP and SSH
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2007-07-31_12:51:35-0400 Allan Senna Porto <allan.porto@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
> Anyone know about problems with /etc/security/access.conf and
> SSH in Etch?
> I'm trying to block ldap users to access my servers, but
> everything that I made don't block user to loggin.
> If I use this to /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.d/gdm, the
> user can't loggin.
It would help others to help you to see what you actually did.
--
Ron Peterson
Network & Systems Manager
Mount Holyoke College
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~rpeterso
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:47:51 +0200
From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb@tiscali.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Udev. Problems with ordering hardware using /dev/video
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I've managed to resolve most of my problems on my own, but Udev has beaten me.
Sarge is not a problem, as it's using the 2.4.27, or 2.6.8 kernel, and Udev is
not in the equation. Etch has a 2.6.8, and a 2.6.17 kernel, and Lenny has a
2.6.11, and a 2.6.17 kernel. The problem is with the 2.6.17 kernel that uses
Udev.
My TV card was set as /dev/video0, and some time later the webcam was set
as /dev/video1. this works fine with the pre 2.6.17 kernels (no Udev), and
the TV card consistently is /dev/video0, and the webcam /dev/video1. Booting
with the 2.6.17 kernel is a different scenario. Very hit and miss. Sometimes
I boot up and starting Xawtv, I get the TV /dev/video0. Othertimes I bootup
and start Xawtv, and get my webcam /dev/video1.
I've worked with ordering my soundcards, and the lines are quite simple, and
have seen that something similar is possible with Udev, although the lines a
re a bit more complex. Could someone give me a couple of lines so that my TV
card is always /dev/video0, and the webcam is always /dev/video1?
Any help gratefully appreciated for fixing this annoying problem.
Nigel.
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:45:44 +0530
From: "Masatran, R. Deepak" <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian 4.0 on AMD64 and SATA with multi-arch DVD
Message-ID: <20070731181544.GA19358@research.iiit.ac.in>
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* Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> 2007-07-31
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 01:07:32PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:
> > I reinstalled Debian using "amd64-expertgui" at the first prompt, using=
the
> > same DVD. The reinstall completed successfully, but it is unable to boo=
t.
> > When I add to the "kernel" line in GRUB, I get:
> >=20
> > ADDITION: RESULT
> >=20
> > 1. nothing: Kernel panic
> > 2. noapic nolapic: Kernel panic
> > 3. acpi=3Doff: SATA internal errors
> > 4. acpi=3Doff noapic nolapic: SATA internal errors
> >=20
> > "Kernel panic" looks like this:
> >=20
> > Code: <pairs of hexadecimal digits>
> > Console shuts up ...
> > <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler
> >=20
> > I could not find any hardware problem. The hard drive is a Seagate 7200=
.10
> > 300 giga-byte SATA. The whole computer is new.
> >=20
> > Searching the web showed that similar problems were tackled by
> > adding/removing kernel modules. Can this be solved by adding/removing k=
ernel
> > modules?
>=20
> if that is the case then you're probably dealing with a situation
> where the proper modules are not being used in the initrd to get the
> root filesystem up. you could boot a live-cd and chroot into the
> system to rebuild the initrd's making sure to include all the modules,
> or at least ensuring that you include the right modules...
I don't know even what "initrd" is, but I have seen it in the GRUB
configuration. Could you give me more detailed instructions, or point me to
some HOWTO?
> > ALSO: I want to try the 486 linux-image, but dpkg refuses to install it,
> > saying that that package is only for I386. How can I install the 486
> > linux-image on my AMD64 computer?
>=20
> I'm confused. do you have more than one AMD64 computer? or does your
> kernel panic above only happen sometimes?
I bypassed the kernel panic by appending "acpi=3Doff" to the "kernel" line =
in
GRUB. I pressed Control-C multiple times at the SATA internal errors, but I
don't know if it helped. After a delay, I got a 640x480 X11, though I had
asked for 1280x960. At that time, I tried to install the 486 kernel.
--=20
Masatran, R. Deepak <http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:26:41 -0400
From: Phill Atwood <me@phillatwood.name>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: ntfs mount errors
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Further to my problem of not being able to automatically mount my
windows xp partition and cd to it as a regular user.
from dmesg:
NTFS driver 2.1.27 [Flags: R/W MODULE].
NTFS volume version 3.1.
NTFS-fs warning (device sda1): load_system_files(): Unsupported volume
flags 0x4000 encountered.
NTFS-fs warning (device sda1): load_system_files(): Volume has
unsupported flags set. Will not be able to remount read-write. Run
chkdsk and mount in Windows.
I'm not clear on what I need to do. I don't seem to have chkdsk. I
tried apt-get install chkdsk but that failed because it could not find
the package. "mount in Windows" I don't understand. When I boot into
Windows the partition is there, obviously. Forgive me if I'm a bit of a
daft newbie.
Phill
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:14:35 +0200
From: Stephan Hachinger <stephan.hachinger@gmx.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ntfs mount errors
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:26:41 -0400
Phill Atwood <me@phillatwood.name> wrote:
>
> Further to my problem of not being able to automatically mount my
> windows xp partition and cd to it as a regular user.
>
> >from dmesg:
>
> NTFS driver 2.1.27 [Flags: R/W MODULE].
> NTFS volume version 3.1.
> NTFS-fs warning (device sda1): load_system_files(): Unsupported volume
> flags 0x4000 encountered.
> NTFS-fs warning (device sda1): load_system_files(): Volume has
> unsupported flags set. Will not be able to remount read-write. Run
> chkdsk and mount in Windows.
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Hi there,
I have no information about what was discussed before, but to me this looks like: Boot into windoze. Click on Start->Execute (don't know how this is exactly called on English windoze) or open a command window (cmd.exe). There, type: chkdsk /f . Tell windoze you want it to check the disk at reboot. Reboot into windoze, and let chkdsk repair the disk. Then reboot into linux and see what happens.
Cheers,
Stephan
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