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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2076

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2076

Today's Topics:

  Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia d  [ "David Fox"  ]
  How to upgrade a 686 system to x86_6  [ Magicloud Magiclouds  ]
  Re: IM on a home debian network       [ "Andrew J. Barr"  ]
  screen and alternate wm's [was: Re:   [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  My experience with Lenny.             [ Pedro Izecksohn 

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:17:14 -0700
From: "David Fox" <dfox94085@gmail.com>
To: "Debian Users" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue Message-ID: <359a3c580707311817t7b8607a5q117376118eff61fb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

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On 7/30/07, Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Have you run apt-get update, and is your mirror up to date? I just
> switched to
> 2.6.21 from 2.6.22 an hour ago and had no problem with the same version of
> the nvidia-kernel-source.

Do you need help?X

Sure have. I'm using ftp.debian.org
, and I just went there and found under debian/pool/n this stuff: I ran apt-get update (or rather aptitude update) yesterday, and updated a few things in the
process.

Looking at a debian ftp site that I use (#1 listing in my sources.list) I see:

debian/pool/non-free/n > ls -l nvi*

drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jul 7 08:35 nvidia-graphics-drivers
drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Dec 7 2006 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy
drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 21 20:34 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-71xx
drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 21 20:34 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-96xx
drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 22 08:42
nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx-modules-amd64 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx-modules-i386 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx-modules-amd64 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx-modules-i386 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-legacy-modules-amd64
drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-legacy-modules-i386
drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-modules-amd64
drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-modules-i386
drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Nov 21 2006 nvidia-modules-i386

Note there is no "nvidia-kernel-source".

Poking around with various 'apt-cache policy' commands on some of those files, all I get are "unable to locate package such and such" errors. I've tried nvidia-graphics-drivers, nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx.

If it is in 'pool" that doesn't necessarily mean that these files are in "testing", does it? OTOH, look at the file dates.

The "why is package X not in testing" page does have some info - says there is no new version in testing, and is trying to add, not update.

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On 7/30/07, Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com> wrote:


Have you run apt-get update, and is your mirror up to date? I just switched to
2.6.21 from 2.6.22 an hour ago and had no problem with the same version of
the nvidia-kernel-source.

Sure have. I'm using  http://ftp.debian.org">ftp.debian.org, and I just went there and found under debian/pool/n
this stuff: I ran apt-get update (or rather aptitude update) yesterday, and updated a few things in the
process.
 
Looking at a debian ftp site that I use (#1 listing in my sources.list) I see:


debian/pool/non-free/n > ls -l nvi*
drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jul 7 08:35 nvidia-graphics-drivers
drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Dec 7 2006 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy
drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 21 20:34 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-71xx
drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 21 20:34 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-96xx
drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 22 08:42 nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx-modules-amd64
drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx-modules-i386
drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx-modules-amd64
Can't find what you're looking for?X

drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx-modules-i386
drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-legacy-modules-amd64
drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-legacy-modules-i386
drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-modules-amd64
drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-modules-i386
drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Nov 21 2006 nvidia-modules-i386

Note there is no "nvidia-kernel-source".

Poking around with various 'apt-cache policy' commands on some of those files, all I get are "unable to locate package
such and such" errors. I've tried nvidia-graphics-drivers, nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx.
<br><br>If it is in &#39;pool&quot; that doesn&#39;t necessarily mean that these files are in &quot;testing&quot;, does it? OTOH, look at the file dates.<br><br>The &quot;why is package X not in testing&quot; page does have some info - says there is no new version in testing, and is trying to add, not update. <br><br></div><br>
Do you need more help?X

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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:27:10 +0800
From: Magicloud Magiclouds <magicloud.magiclouds@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: How to upgrade a 686 system to x86_64?

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Dear all,

    I am using a x86_64 hardware, but I installed a 686 sid on it. Now I want to use x86_64 sid.

    I installed x86_64 linux image, and booted, but all my softwares are still 686, so new x86_64 software can not be installed.

    How to upgrade all my softwares?

Thanks.

Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:31:09 -0400
From: Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: new Etch install fails to boot Message-Id: <200708010131.VAA00917@syrano.acb.uc.edu>

On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 11:00:30PM -0400:
> [I wrote that my fresh Etch install calls grub and then stops.]

I've tried the remaining suggestions without luck and am now royally confused.

  1. I installed the grub-disk package and ran the following: dd if=grub-0.97-i486-pc.ext2fs of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync; sync There were no errors. I could mount the floppy and read the files. I set the BIOS to boot off the floppy. The system touched the floppy but failed to boot off it. I tried this with the box I'm working on and one that is successfully running Etch. I repeated the test with a second floppy, which also didn't boot.
  2. I tried repeatedly to install grub from the CD in rescue mode. The install seemed to succeed. I poked around with a rescue shell and confirmed that files had been installed in /boot/grub. However, booting the machine still gave the usual message from the dead, i.e.:
     Verifying DMI Pool Data ..........
     GRUB Loading stage1.5.
     Read

3. I reformatted the partitions, reinstalled the base system, and tried to

   install lilo. This came up:

     LILO installation target:
       /dev/hdf: Master Boot Record
       /dev/hde1: new Debian partition
       Other choice (Advanced)

   Note that the first one is for hdf, which is the second drive. I have no    idea why. Anyway, I tried all of these, include Other with /dev/hde and    /dev/hde1. In all cases, I got "lilo-installer failed with error code 1".    Console 4 showed the following:

     Setting up lilo (22.6.1-9.3)
     mount: /dev/hde1 already mounted or /boot busy
     dpkg: error processing lilo (--configure)
     subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 32

   Still, I verified that /etc/lilo.conf was there, and there were no grub    files anywhere under /target (including under /boot). I finished the    installation anyway, and found it totally bizarre when a reboot produced    the same output as before, including "GRUB Loading stage1.5". It's as if    this string lives on the MBR and I'm unable to overwrite it.

Confused? Frustrated?X

Practically all I can think of now is trying to install Windows and see if that's even possible. That's pretty desperate.

In case it's relevant, here's how fdisk showed the filesys in rescue mode:

     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
  /dev/hde1   *           1          12       96358+  83  Linux
  /dev/hde2            4819        5005     1502077+   5  Extended
  /dev/hde3              12        4818    38604195   83  Linux
  /dev/hde5            4819        5005     1502046   82  Linux swap / Solaris
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I do appreciate all of your suggestions and am sorry this is going on so long.

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:16:32 -0400
From: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: IM on a home debian network

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On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 04:22:23PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:54:34PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:30:05PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> >
> > > and leave this VC 1 open. VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or
> > > $watch -n 20 "from -c"
> > >
> > > VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session).
> > > VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to.
> > >
> > > There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt.
> >
> > Never heard of 'screen'?
> >
>
> I have heard of it, but it relies, like so many other gnu tools, on the
> operator (me) having either a good memory or a cheat-sheet for
> keystrokes. I have a poor memory (learning disability) and a
> cheat-sheet makes using it very slow. Whereas, Ctrl-Alt-UP is simple.
>
> Doug.

I just started to use screen and it has 'control-a ?' which given you the 'cheatsheet'. But you dont need all the commands to start using it.

I use:
'screen MYCOMMAND' to start a new screen session control-a " for menu-based session selection control-a n for 'go to next screen session' 'screen -list' to list the sessions

there are many more, but it is easy to try and then ask here for more advanced options.
-K

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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:32:23 -0400 From: "Andrew J. Barr" <andrew.james.barr@gmail.com> To: "Jesus Arocho" <jesus_arocho@comcast.net> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: IM on a home debian network Message-ID: <903e17bb0707311932g18076981j3b59b7d216a867fb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 7/28/07, Jesus Arocho <jesus_arocho@comcast.net> wrote:
> I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a
> combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server. Is there
> a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network?
Pidgin as well as Gajim support link-local messaging using the XMPP protocol (Jabber). As an added bonus this is designed to inter-operate with iChat for Mac OS X. -- Andrew Barr We matter more than pounds and pence, your economic theory makes no sense...

Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:28:27 -0000 From: Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Firefox \ Iceweasel Differences? Message-ID: <1185935307.155845.308060@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Jul 31, 9:30 am, Andrew Sackville-West <and...@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 10:55:45AM -0500, Anson Gardner wrote:
>
> > > > Change the preference general.useragent.extra.firefox from
> > > > "Iceweasel/2.0.0.5" (or whatever your version is to "Firefox/2.0.0.5".
>
> > > Worked like a treat, thanks!!
>
> > > > Then web sites won't be able to tell the difference, and FWIW you
> > > > should report the web site to it's owners as broken. User-agent
> > > > detection is broken behavior.
>
> > > I feel it's the website not knowing the browser, hense, unable to render
> > > the page properly. Thanks.
>
> > Not to get all gripey or anything, but there are web standards for precisely
> > this reason. Seehttp://www.w3.org
>
> Having just put together my first real webpage (still pretty basic)
> let me tell you (I'm sure you know) its a royal PITA. I've had to make
> an extra stylesheet just for stupid IE and then put a check for IE in
> the headers. Thankfully it was pretty simple and I end up with a page
> that renders "okay" in IE and looks great in everything else. I told
> my "customer" (heh, step-mother) that if it got any more complicated
> that I wasn't going to support IE and we'd just put up a redirect to
> mozilla. She doesn't understand but, what can you do. I'm not going to
> go down that road.
Why not just code to the standard instead of to a browser, do your testing in an ACID compliant browser like Konqueror (instead of a browser that can't render to the standard), and then call it good? If it looks good there, it'll look just as good in any browser that actually complies with the standard or does a reasonably good job faking it?

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:11:01 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net> Subject: screen and alternate wm's [was: Re: IM on a home debian network] Message-ID: <20070801031100.GB14415@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wq9mPyueHGvFACwf" Content-Disposition: inline --wq9mPyueHGvFACwf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 10:16:32PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: =2E..
> I just started to use screen and it has 'control-a ?' which given you
> the 'cheatsheet'. But you dont need all the commands to start using it.
>=20
> I use:
> 'screen MYCOMMAND' to start a new screen session
> control-a " for menu-based session selection
> control-a n for 'go to next screen session'
> 'screen -list' to list the sessions
>=20
> there are many more, but it is easy to try and then ask here for more
> advanced options.
interestingly, as we wander more OT from the original thread, my recent adoption of screen has catapulted me into higher levels of geekdom. For example, I now no longer maintain multiple email clients in multiple locations as I just ssh in to my main box and reattach my current screen session. Also, the reorientation to a keystroke driven interface has pushed me to take the plunge and relearn wmii. I had previously learned and loved wmii2, but the transition to wmii3 didn't go over well with me. Now, running a dual-head setup and putting in just a few minutes to grind through the transition, wmii3 is awesome. Couple that with screen and multiple tags on my screen window, so that its always available whatever my view currently is and I'm in heaven. Primary app gets full screen on the left monitor, secondary apps and my screen session share the right monitor.=20 giggity giggity. A --wq9mPyueHGvFACwf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGr/nEaIeIEqwil4YRAsv6AJ9L/6FhzX5+G6QyGHh9KSFwwEcC5ACgqen0 BmURuH7DOdf2zk+A+GmtwGU= =wG1B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wq9mPyueHGvFACwf--

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:11:28 -0400 From: Matthew K Poer <matthewpoer@gmail.com> To: "Andrew J. Barr" <andrew.james.barr@gmail.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian Linux in Chroot Message-Id: <200707312311.49828.matthewpoer@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3192011.bRaNVoVuQq"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart3192011.bRaNVoVuQq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Wow, you seem to be really singing the praises of chroot. I have a spare 10gig partition on my hard drive. I originally considered=20 simply dual-booting Etch and Lenny, or Etch and Feisty, or something simila= r.=20 Perhaps instead I will make it a chroot jail for Lenny. Big question answered: you can run X clients (applications) on your local,= =20 non-chroot Xserver (display). So, again, it is a completely separate operating system installation, runni= ng=20 on the same kernel as the active, base OS? So how do you handle the /boot partition? Do you have to redirect to the=20 active kernel, or is this sort of automatically taken care of by debootstra= p?=20 (I have never used debootstrap). On Tuesday 31 July 2007 7:25 pm, Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> On 7/31/07, Matthew K Poer <matthewpoer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My understanding of chroot is extremely limited, right now. I have
> > searched around, but can anyone point me to anything specific that they
> > know to be a good tutorial/explanation or how chroot works and what its
> > capabilities are?
>
> chroot is a system call that causes all descended processes to treat a
> directory in the filesystem as the root directory (/). When you do
> this to an interactive Bash shell, you then have the ability to launch
> programs and do development work, etc. from this chroot.
>
> Debian has good tools for doing this sort of thing--debootstrap and
> friends can install a new system (etch, lenny, sid, and more) in a
> folder for you, and you can even install an entire 32-bit userland on
> a 64-bit system, which is useful for running 32-bit Firefox with stuff
> like the non-free Adobe Flash plugin (FYI-if you're going to point out
> nspluginwrapper, please also tell me how to make sound with PulseAudio
> work in that setup). Then there are tools like schroot (apt-get
> install schroot) which can be configured to launch programs from
> inside the chroot in one command line, complete with 32-bit uname()
> emulation if so desired.
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 04:49:04 +0200 (CEST) From: pinniped <cirilo_bernardo@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: ntfs mount errors Message-Id: <listhandler=2&site=www.debianhelp.org&nid=9236&pid=32627&cid=32632&uid=76&tid=79&98d70100a8712d45d879ba0c5d106871@www.debianhelp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (quote) I still have the problem. ie. The windoze partition is mounted automatically fine, but I can only cd to it if I am root. (end quote) Do: man mount Look at the 'Mount options for ntfs'. All your mysteries are explained th= ere - for example: "... By default, the files are owned by root and not readable by somebody= else." So you need to set the uid/gid and umask. You really want 'root' to be th= e owner anyway so I guess you only want to change the gid to the 'disk' g= roup and make sure you have a sensible umask.

Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:09:37 +0530 From: Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in> To: Debian User mailing list <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Bookmark nicknames, and address drop down in Epiphany Message-ID: <20070801033937.GA9881@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Dear Debian user, Could someone direct me on how/whether the "bookmark nicknames" support which Galeon and Iceweasel have is available on Epiphany? What I mean is, I should be able to set things up such that: wp Epiphany: Launches a search for "Epiphany" in Wikipedia bug <string>: goes to bugs.debian.org/<string> etc. My searches on how to get this working were inconclusive. I did find something related to GNOME deskbar which does this, but I don't have GNOME and don't want to install it. Also, in Iceweasel, if there's an address we have in the visited locations which drops down when we type it, and we want to make a change, we can select that and edit it. But that doesn't seem to be the case in Epiphany. Is there a way to replicate that behaviour as well. To be more clear, if I want to go to debian.net, but I've already been to debian.org, if I type "de" in Iceweasel, it shows me debian.org below. I use th arrow keys to come down to debian.org, backspace the org part and put net and Return. Is this all right or too much to ask? Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 458, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:09:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Izecksohn <izecksohn@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: My experience with Lenny. Message-ID: <959925.33081.qm@web50108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've being using Lenny Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20070725-2= 1:16 from that date on.=0A=0A I just compiled and installed my personal Li= nux kernel 2.6.22.1 optimized for Pentium D. It seems to me that most progr= ams work faster with the default kernel 2.6.21-2-686, as it does not recogn= ize SMP and a single CPU get all bus cycles.=0A=0A The major problem I had= was to configure /etc/X11/xorg.conf for this monitor Samsung SyncMaster 74= 0n, as I had to configure it manually.=0A=0A Another problem is openoffice= .org-impress_2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch1_i386.deb that crashes sometimes, I do not = know exactly why.=0A=0A Gnash is good for Flash 7 presentations, as it mis= ses some Flash 8 features. But Macromedia's player 9 works perfectly.=0A=0A= I would like to install iTunes to buy a single music clip, but some work = needs to be done for wine.=0A=0A All other installed programs seem to work= fine.=0A=0A My biggest surprise was GnomeBaker, as it saved me from the n= eed to install K3B.=0A=0A locale: My current LANG=3Dpt_BR.UTF-8 Wouldn't t= he correct be pt_BR.utf-8 ?=0A=0A I'm in general satisfied with this distr= o. It is very near to stable.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A__________________= __________________________________________________________________=0ASick s= ense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's =0AComedy with an Edge to see what's on, w= hen. =0Ahttp://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:36:41 -0600 From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: adduser Message-ID: <20070801053641.GA30989@dementia.proulx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Oleg Verych wrote:
> Ids may change and i will end up with /var/spool/exim4 owned by
> different user in case /etc/passwd is new.
I don't think that should be a concern because if the ownership of /var/spool/exim4 needs to be non-root then it should be set in the postinst script. That would be true upon the first installation too, right? Upon a removal, id scramble, installation the postinst script will set the correct permissions, right? Example from the postfix postinst script: mkdir -p $MAILDROP if ! chown postfix:postdrop $MAILDROP 2>/dev/null; then addgroup --system postdrop chown postfix:postdrop $MAILDROP fi Example from the bind9 postinst script: getent group bind >/dev/null 2>&1 || addgroup --system bind getent passwd bind >/dev/null 2>&1 || adduser --system --home /var/cache/bind --no-create-home \ --disabled-password --ingroup bind bind Example from openssh-server postinst script: if ! getent passwd sshd >/dev/null; then adduser --quiet --system --no-create-home --home /var/run/sshd --shell /usr/sbin/nologin sshd fi Expert help for questions about Debian packaging is available on debian-mentors mailing list. It is where I would go for answers to my packaging questions.
> If i have /etc/passwd set up, i don't want to install adduser. If there
> will be setup option or prompt: "Do you want to add Debian-exim4 (with
> random UID)?" I want to say no. I don't want global ID. I want not
> random one.
Debconf should be available for those types of questions of the user at installation time. However if the user selects a non-dynamic id I don't know how the package could know what global one to use other than to coordinate it. Asking the admin installing the package for an id seems like a big step backward. Also, packages shouldn't call adduser if the user already exists. Bob

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 01:39:06 -0400 From: "Luis Finotti" <finotti.deb@gmail.com> To: "Debian User List" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Disabling Print Screen key [Solved] Message-ID: <c1bba0290707312239m1421a50bn54cd45301962e83a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey Mumia, Davide, and all, On 7/31/07, Mumia W.. <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 07/31/2007 04:18 PM, Luis Finotti wrote:
> > [...]
> > On the other hand, I still don't see why the key wasn't disabled
> > by the "xmodmap -e" command... Is that a bug??
>
>
> What about this:
>
> xmodmap -e "keycode 111 = BackSpace"
>
> or
>
> xmodmap -e "keycode 111 ="
These did not work (which I find very puzzling), but Davide's suggestion worked! I.e.:
> Found it. It is in (err... sorry, non-English KDE) Regional &
> Accessibility -> Input Actions (?) -> Preset Actions ->
> PrintScreen. If you look for "gestures" in Control Center, it will
> pop up immediately.
Then just click "Disable". Thanks to all!! Luis End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2076 ************************************************** Received on Wed Aug 1 02:22:39 2007

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