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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2078

Today's Topics: 

  apt-file behin HTTP proxy             [ Kumar Appaiah  ]
  Re: Debian Linux in Chroot            [ Michelle Konzack  ]
  Re: Debian Linux in Chroot            [ "Andrew J. Barr" 

Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:28:49 +0530


From: Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in>


To: Debian User mailing list <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: apt-file behin HTTP proxy

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Dear Debian user,



Is there a way to use apt-file with a HTTP proxy server? I don't seem
to be able to get it working with just an export http_proxy="..." and
apt-file update.



Thanks.


Do you need help?X

Kumar

-- 
Kumar Appaiah,
458, Jamuna Hostel,
Indian Institute of Technology Madras,
Chennai - 600 036

Do you need more help?X



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:23:05 +0200
From: Michelle Konzack <linux4michelle@freenet.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian Linux in Chroot
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Am 2007-07-31 12:15:33, schrieb koffiejunkie:

> Say you are booted into Linux1, and linux 2 is mounted at /linux2, you=20
> need to do this (assuming they are both recent distrobutions):

>=20

> mount -t proc proc /linux2/proc


This should be

mount -t none /proc /linux2/proc -o bind

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
    Michelle Konzack
    Systemadministrator
    Tamay Dogan Network
    Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 08:23:31 -0400
From: Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: new Etch install fails to boot
Message-Id: <200708011223.IAA01506@syrano.acb.uc.edu>

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:31:09 -0400, I wrote:
>> Still, I verified that /etc/lilo.conf was there, and there were no grub
>> files anywhere under /target (including under /boot).  I finished the
>> installation anyway, and found it totally bizarre when a reboot produced
>> the same output as before, including "GRUB Loading stage1.5".  It's as if
>> this string lives on the MBR and I'm unable to overwrite it.

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:18:13 -0500, Mumia W.. replied:


> Which MBR? Each fixed disk can have its own MBR. It sounds like you have
> six ATA devices installed; the BIOS is trying to boot from one of those
> devices, and you need to write to the MBR for that device.

>

> BTW, did you change /etc/lilo.conf to work with your system?

>

> Where are and what are the devices before /dev/hde?


The motherboard (Abit BX133 440BX) has four IDE connectors allowing 8 drives
in total.  hda-hdd have a speed of 33 MB/s max.  hde-hdh have a speed of 66
MB/s max.  So I have always had the two hard drives connected to hde and hdf.
There are no other hard drives.  I forget which device the CD drive is, but
most of the IDE connectors are not connected to anything.  Since I brought
this up 6 years ago, the MBR has been on hde and supported both Win98 and Red
Hat.  This all worked until I tried to build Etch on hde (with no Windows).

It is a good idea that maybe grub is trying to read the MBR on the wrong disk
(hdf).  I may have to break down and disconnect hdf before I resume.  I may
also try to read the MBR with "od" if it's available just to see where this
string "GRUB Loading stage1.5: is coming from.

I did not try to edit the lilo.conf that was installed.  It was really a
bare-bones file.

Thanks.



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 08:45:23 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: new Etch install fails to boot
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 10:19:09PM -0400, Steve Kleene wrote:

> [I wrote that my fresh Etch install calls grub and then stops.]
> 


Here's a fresh start, just to verify that your machine will actually
boot properly.

1.	Connect your drives to /dev/hda and /dev/hdc, set the jumpers on
	both drives to master.  Alternatively, just remove hdc for now.

2.	Boot the installer and go to a shell.

3.	Clear the beginning of the drives, which includes the MBR:

	dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=2 ;sync
	dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdc bs=512 count=2 ;sync

4.	exit the shell and return to the installer.

5.	Run the install, just the base system (don't select any tasks).

6.	Partition the drives thus:

	hda1	/boot	32 MB
	hda2	swap	128 MB 
	hda3	/	remainder

	You don't need hdc for this.

7.	Install the grub onto hda (not hda1 or other partition).

8.	Try to reboot.  If it doesn't work, reboot the installer in
	rescue mode and tell it to install grub again in hda.

As for the grub-disk, if you mount it you should see a default menu.lst
file.   Therefore, when you boot it, you should get a menu on the
screen.  You may need to ensure that it got copied correctly.  Use dd to
make an image file of the floppy you created and then compare the md5sum
of both images.  They should be the same.

Good luck,

Doug.



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 05:50:49 -0700
From: Alan Ianson <agianson@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
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On Tue July 31 2007 18:17, David Fox wrote:


> Looking at a debian ftp site that I use (#1 listing in my sources.list) I
> see:

>
>

> debian/pool/non-free/n > ls -l nvi*
> drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jul 7 08:35 nvidia-graphics-drivers
> drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Dec 7 2006 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy
> drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 21 20:34
> nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-71xx drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 21
> 20:34 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-96xx drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun
> 22 08:42
> nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx-modules-amd64
> drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30
> nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx-modules-i386
> drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30
> nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx-modules-amd64
> drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30
> nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx-modules-i386
> drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34
> nvidia-graphics-legacy-modules-amd64
> drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34
> nvidia-graphics-legacy-modules-i386 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27
> 08:34 nvidia-graphics-modules-amd64 drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27
> 08:34 nvidia-graphics-modules-i386 drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Nov 21 2006
> nvidia-modules-i386

>

> Note there is no "nvidia-kernel-source".


Your right. I just had a look at packages.debian.org and had a look for it. It 
isn't in testing at the moment. I'm not sure why.


> Poking around with various 'apt-cache policy' commands on some of those
> files, all I get are "unable to locate package
> such and such" errors. I've tried nvidia-graphics-drivers,
> nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx.

>

> If it is in 'pool" that doesn't necessarily mean that these files are in
> "testing", does it? OTOH, look at the file dates.


That's right, they may be in stable or unstable.


> The "why is package X not in testing" page does have some info - says there
> is no new version in testing, and is trying to add, not update.


I also have unstable lines in my sources.list so that must be where I got them 
from. If you don't mind doing the same that may work better for you. I always 
add the following to my /etc/apt/apt.conf so I don't get stuff from unstable 
unexpectedly (mind you I was unaware I got the nvidia stuff from unstable!)

-- /etc/apt/apt.conf --
APT::Default-Release "testing";

-- end --



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 08:59:05 -0400
From: "Andrew J. Barr" <andrew.james.barr@gmail.com>
To: "Matthew K Poer" <matthewpoer@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian Linux in Chroot
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On 7/31/07, Matthew K Poer <matthewpoer@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, you seem to be really singing the praises of chroot.

>

> I have a spare 10gig partition on my hard drive. I originally considered
> simply dual-booting Etch and Lenny, or Etch and Feisty, or something similar.
> Perhaps instead I will make it a chroot jail for Lenny.


You don't need partitions for chroots, you can just make them in a
folder on your root filesystem, say /var/chroot. This is more flexible
than a partition, so you might consider merging that 10gb partition
into your root file system--you can use gparted on a LiveCD for easy
point-and-click partition editing (I've found Ubuntu LiveCDs
particularly useful for this).


> Big question answered: you can run X clients (applications) on your local,
> non-chroot Xserver (display).


Yes, remember--X is a network protocol and you can run clients on any
network-connected computer, regardless of architecture or operating
system.


> So, again, it is a completely separate operating system installation, running
> on the same kernel as the active, base OS?


Yes.


> So how do you handle the /boot partition? Do you have to redirect to the
> active kernel, or is this sort of automatically taken care of by debootstrap?
> (I have never used debootstrap).


The system is already booted when you enter into your chroot. There is
no need for /boot, as the kernel is already loaded into memory.
However, if you want to have folders from your main system available
in your chroot, 'mount --bind' is your friend.

-- 
Andrew Barr

We matter more than pounds and pence,
your economic theory makes no sense...



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:05:31 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: mounting usb frustration
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 11:37:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 07/30/07 20:13, Carl Fink wrote:
> > USB detection has been broken on Debian for years, literally.  It works fine
> > for me with removable drives, but my Testing system will detect my Palm
> > device once -- and never again, until I reboot.  Then I can sync once more.
> 
> It always works perfectly for me plugging thumb drives and a digital
> camera.
> 
> I've taken to using UUIDs for permanent mount points, since pmount
> seems to bypass udev.  And udev is (was?) in such flux and the rules
> changed on me.
> 
> Here's a snippet from my /etc/fstab:
> 
> UUID="c207a86c-91ac-4733-9760-93b0389e193d" /media/backup \
>          ext3,ext2 defaults,noauto  0  2


For a shorter fstab entry, can you label a digital camera and then use
LABEL="camera" instead?

Doug.



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:07:34 -0400
From: Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: new Etch install fails to boot
Message-Id: <200708011307.JAA01707@syrano.acb.uc.edu>

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 08:45:23 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:


> Here's a fresh start, just to verify that your machine will actually
> boot properly.


Thanks.  I'll definitely try this, but probably won't have time until
tomorrow.


> As for the grub-disk, if you mount it you should see a default menu.lst
> file.   Therefore, when you boot it, you should get a menu on the
> screen.


In fact, that's exactly what happened on my good Etch machine.  It looked
just like the usual grub menu I get from the hard drive, so I probably failed
to realize it was coming from the floppy.  And I guess I thought I was
supposed to get a shell prompt to execute the grub commands you had suggested
earlier.

Thanks.


Can we help you?X

Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:15:00 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Part3: More problems. [What was the subject?]
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 02:03:54AM -0500, Brad B wrote:

> Thanks for helping me. I installed both of those, and it got past requesting
> libc!
> Now, it's requesting the kernel source, which i can't seem to find the
> appropriate version of.


Would you care to change the subject line to something meaningful, and
where possible to stick to one thread?

Doug.



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:17:58 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian 4.0 on AMD64 and SATA with multi-arch DVD
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 01:07:32PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:
 

> ALSO: I want to try the 486 linux-image, but dpkg refuses to install it,
> saying that that package is only for I386. How can I install the 486
> linux-image on my AMD64 computer?


You can't since the 486 kernel is 32-bit and you've installed a 64-bit
system.  If you want to run an amd64 with a 486 kernel, you'll have to
reinstall i386 instead of amd64.

Doug.



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:20:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: Hendrik Boom <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Is there a package for mathml fonts?
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At http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/fonts/
it tells me=20


> On Linux with Xft-enabled builds, you should install the TrueType TeX
> fonts and Mathematica 4.1 fonts (repeat: 4.1). To install TrueType font=

s,

> simply extract and copy the .ttf files in your ~/.fonts/ directory
> (create it if you don't have it yet). See also these instructions.


Now I suppose I can just follow these instructions and I'll have the
fonts myself. But is there a way to make thise fonts available to
*everybody* on my system?  Can they be installed as one or more Debian
packages?

-- hendrik



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:28:13 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian Linux in Chroot
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 02:31:07PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:

> I have two Linux installations in my hard drive, and I want to modify
> Linux-2 from Linux-1, using Chroot. Basically "dpkg-reconfigure" and similar
> stuff. How do I tell DPKG of Linux-2 to not disturb the daemons that are
> running in Linux-1?


The easiest way is to, on Linux-1, install schroot.  Then tell schroot
how to access the chroot.  It then takes care of mounting anything
required.  For example, on my amd64, I have an i386 chroot installed
under /srv/chroot, and here's my schroot.conf:

[etch-ia32]
type=directory
description=Debian Etch ia32
groups=ssh
run-setup-scripts=true
run-exec-scripts=true
personality=linux32
location=/srv/chroot/etch-ia32

The groups=ssh is a security feature; only people who I trust to run ssh
can run schroot.  I generally schroot into the chroot and then run the
command.  To do so its just:

$ schroot -pc etch-ia32

The -p means to bring in my environment: usefull if I want to run an X
app.

The -c is telling schroot which chroot to use.

I understand that your chroot in this case is also a fully bootable
instalation on its own, with its own kernel.  However, that kernel and
its daemons will not run under a chroot, only when it is booted.

Doug.



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:31:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Hendrik Boom <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: How to handle the bad sectors on the hard disk?
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 09:21:43 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:


> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 07:08:25AM -0600, Ninenineone Efx wrote:

>> Programs freeze sometimes complaining i/o error, access failure on
>> specific sectors.
>> My hard disk begins to have bad sectors. It's 10-year old computer.
>>=20
>> Is there any tools that make user/kernel programs stop writing data on
>> bad sectors?
>>=20
>> I feel like I gonna need a new system soon.
>=20

> I think that it has been more than 10 years since hard drives started
> automatically mapping bad blocks to spare blocks; when they start
> showing bad blocks they've run out of spares.  Its probably time to fin=

d

> a new hard drive.


In my experience, once a drive starts having bad blocks, it can get
significantly worst startlingly fast.  This is especially true with the
internal error detection/recovery modern drives have -- once they report
bad blocks, all their internal measures have failed.

Some friends
have suggested to me that if the bad blocks are caused by physical
damage to the recording surface, fragments scraped off it may be wanderin=
g
about the drive, landing elsewhere, and causing new bad blocks
-- this bad blocks may even be contagious within the drive).

Make a complete backup while you still can (without destroying your
previous backup -- the new one may be based on defective data) and replac=
e
the drive pronto.

-- hendrik

>

> That said, yes you can keep the filesystem from writing on bad blocks b=

y

> running a fsck on the filesysem while its unmounted, and select the
> appropriate badblocks option.  Use the -f option to force a check even
> though the filesystem is marked as clean.

>=20

> For e2fsck its -c -c (to use a non-distructive read-write test)

>=20

> Not all filesystems support badblocks (e.g. JFS) but rely on the hard
> drive to handle them transparently (see above).

>=20

> The hard drive and the computer are only related by a cable and some
> screws.  If the computer does everything you need and is reliable, it
> may only need a new hard drive.

>=20

> Doug.

Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 08:41:14 -0500
From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: new Etch install fails to boot
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On 08/01/2007 07:23 AM, Steve Kleene wrote:

> 
> The motherboard (Abit BX133 440BX) has four IDE connectors allowing 8 drives 
> in total.  hda-hdd have a speed of 33 MB/s max.  hde-hdh have a speed of 66 
> MB/s max.  So I have always had the two hard drives connected to hde and hdf. 
> There are no other hard drives.  [...]


I think I smell a bug in the installer. Your HD configuration may be 
"throwing it for a loop."

You probably will have to install Lilo manually--with minimal help from 
the Debian installation and configuration system.

I used to have fun with this when I used Lilo in conjunction with 
another Linux distro :-)



> I forget which device the CD drive is, but 
> most of the IDE connectors are not connected to anything.  Since I brought 
> this up 6 years ago, the MBR has been on hde and supported both Win98 and Red 
> Hat.  This all worked until I tried to build Etch on hde (with no Windows).
> 
> It is a good idea that maybe grub is trying to read the MBR on the wrong disk 
> (hdf).  I may have to break down and disconnect hdf before I resume.  I may 
> also try to read the MBR with "od" if it's available just to see where this 
> string "GRUB Loading stage1.5: is coming from.
> 


I'd suspect that the BIOS is trying to load the MBR from /dev/hde, so 
Lilo or Grub needs to write its MBR there. Here are some WRONG places to 
which the "boot-loader" might be writing:

/dev/hde1
/dev/hde2
/dev/hde3
/dev/hde5
/dev/hdf
/dev/hdf1
/dev/hdf2
...(anything on hdf)...



> I did not try to edit the lilo.conf that was installed.  It was really a 
> bare-bones file.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 


After you change it, always remember to do /sbin/lilo. And after you 
change any file referenced by /etc/lilo.conf, always remember to do 
/sbin/lilo.



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:07:14 -0300
From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>
To: Mike Bird <mgb-debian@yosemite.net>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to set network io priority for a process?
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Mike Bird wrote:

> packets aren't lost.  This doesn't work for UDP and ICMP and works poorly
> for varying loads.


Correct.  But it works wonderfully for long-lived TCP connections, and if
you are using ftp/http (and not, say, bittorrent) to get your ISOs, it will
help you.

That said, there is a very undocumented way to *queue* incoming traffic. It
used to require that hideous buggy IMQ device (but at least that one is
copiously documented!), but nowadays you can do it differently (something to
do with dummy devices?) I think.  You might want to look that up.  That
allows one to do real shaping on incoming, without dropping packets.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:08:06 -0300
From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how to set network io priority for a process?
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

> What we need is a multi-protocol proxy server that does proper
> throttling of download requests.


Squid delay pools?  Will work for http and ftp.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh


Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 08:55:10 -0500
From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Is there a package for mathml fonts?
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On 08/01/2007 08:20 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:

> At http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/fonts/
> it tells me 
> 

>> On Linux with Xft-enabled builds, you should install the TrueType TeX
>> fonts and Mathematica 4.1 fonts (repeat: 4.1). To install TrueType fonts,
>> simply extract and copy the .ttf files in your ~/.fonts/ directory
>> (create it if you don't have it yet). See also these instructions.

> 
> Now I suppose I can just follow these instructions and I'll have the
> fonts myself. But is there a way to make thise fonts available to
> *everybody* on my system?  Can they be installed as one or more Debian
> packages?
> 
> -- hendrik
> 
> 


You can extract the .ttf files to /usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/.

I don't know of any Debian packages for this, but you can search in 
aptitude.



Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:49:47 +0300
From: andreimpopescu@gmail.com (Andrei Popescu)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: new Etch install fails to boot
Message-ID: <20070801144947.GB11820@think>
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On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 08:05:06AM -0400, Steve Kleene wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 11:00:30PM -0400:
> > [I wrote that my fresh Etch install calls grub and then stops.]

>=20

> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:21:49 +0300, Andrei Popescu replied:
> > IIRC your /boot partition was pretty big. Would it be very complicated
> > to make it something like a few hundred megs (less then 512) ?

>=20

> As shown during partitioning, it was <100 MB, i.e.

>=20

>   IDE5 master (hde) - 41.2 GB IC35L040AVER07-0
>         #1 primary   98.7 MB B f ext3       /boot

>=20

> Since each cylinder is 8225280 bytes, this is 12 cylinders.


Sorry, must have been very tired (or sleepy) when I read that!

Regards,
Andrei
--=20
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
Albert Einstein)

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:40:13 +0000 (UTC)
From: Hendrik Boom <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:01:40 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:


> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:49:30 -0600
> Telly Williams <twilliams001@elp.rr.com> wrote:

>=20

> Hello Telly,

>=20
>> I wanted to know if some of you find it better to compile your
>> programs or just apt-get install them?  I've been thinking about just
>=20

> A mixture of both.  The bulk of software here is installed from .deb
> packages, using $preferredpackagemanager.  There are half a dozen or so
> programs that I prefer to compile myself because the .debs are a bit
> too far out of date, or use compile-time options that don't suit my
> needs, or even that I need to patch myself.

>=20
>> compiling from now on since it gives me more options.  Thanks.
>=20

> You'll give yourself a big headache;  Doing system upgrades purely from
> source is time-consuming, to say the least.

>

My son uses the gentoo distribution, and he loves it.  Since all
packages are provided in compile-it-yourself source form, gentoo's
excellent package management system compiles everything from source.=20
He gets an extremely up-to-date system (I gather it's usually more
up-to-date than sid).  It is a reportable bug if the gentoo package is
not as up-to-date as the upstream developers' release.

It took all night and several extra gigabytes of temporary storage to
install OpenOffice, though.

By the way, I use etch and try hard not to install anything that doesn't
arrive as a Debian package.

I'm installing gentoo on another partition,
for the occasional moments when I really need aggressive up-to-date-ness,
and having troubles. Xorg didn't autoconfigure properly.

-- hendrik

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