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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2093

Today's Topics:

  Re: ext3fs errors with kernel 2.6.18  [ "Francois Duranleau"  ]
  Re: ext3fs errors with kernel 2.6.18  [ Douglas Allan Tutty  ]
  Re: ext3fs errors with kernel 2.6.18  [ Brad Sawatzky  ]
  Re: sound does not work with Intel C  [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  Re: converting file system            [ Andrew Sackville-West 

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:26:11 -0400
From: "Francois Duranleau" <xiao.bai.xiong@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ext3fs errors with kernel 2.6.18 but not with 2.4.27

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Do you need help?X

On 8/3/07, Brad Sawatzky <brad+debian@swatter.net> wrote:
>
> Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought he got the errors with the old
> kernel (and had for a long time) but they did not trigger a filesystem
> check. My hunch was that the 2.6.x IDE driver (or ext3 driver) is handling
> the error condition in a different way. Perhaps not retrying at all on the
> CRC error, or maybe having a shorter time-out on the retry, who knows...
>
> If he only gets the errors under 2.6.x and not 2.4.27 then it looks more
> like a driver issue. Perhaps his 2.6.x kernel is using the new 'merged'
> SATA+PATA subsystem to handle his PATA drive instead of the old ATA/ATAPI
> driver and that is causing the problem.

It seems like I wasn't clear. Let me try to clarify:

On 2.4.27, I get the CRC errors (not at boot time, later, and all the time thereafter),
and I've been having them for many years. I mentionned just in case there might be
a link with my problem. Otherwise, I am not trying to solve this particular problem.

Do you need more help?X

On 2.6.x, at boot time, errors are reported on the initial filesystem check. I do
not know if I still have those CRC errors.

I will try to see tonight or tomorrow if I can manage to get some logs as Douglas
suggested. I will also try to look at what driver is in use also. Looking at my config-2.6.18 file:

http://www-etud.iro.umontreal.ca/~duranlef/linux-config/config-2.6.18

it's hard to guess. All I know is that all SATA support is disabled.

-- 
Francois

Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:46:42 +0100 From: Jamin Davis <jweb@ghost.merseine.nu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Setfont Message-ID: <g3f7o4-ajh.ln1@ID-307283.user.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Loeghmon T. Nejad <loeghmon@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a minimal installation of Debian Etch (with xserver-xorg-core
> installed) that gives me an error message when I run the script -at the
> bottom of this email.
> The message says,
I think you are missing the 'kbd' package which contains setfont and mapscrn requested my your script: run apt-get install kbd. -- Jamin @ Home: Chester UK -<jamin@ghost.merseine.nu>

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:48:05 +0300 From: "Vasil Benov" <benovv@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Blurry fonts in OpenOffice and qt4 appliations Message-ID: <2c079bf50708031248w3c272568ke3a8c9a96067c03@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24205_24743854.1186170485280" ------=_Part_24205_24743854.1186170485280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, The fonts in OpenOffice and qt4(skype 1.4 beta) applications are blurry. Has anyone encountered the same problem? There is a thread on the Ubuntu mailing list, but it does not offer any solution. Any help is appreciated I am using Debian Etch with Gnome Regards -- Vasil Benov, Mobile: +359(0)889/202682 @-mail: benovv at gmail dot com ICQ: 140269988 GPG Fingerprint: 2CDC 5DA0 4C0A 7C06 5259 DE12 ACF3 177C 8906 0908 Public Key URL: *) http://random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de/ ------=_Part_24205_24743854.1186170485280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi all,<br><br>The fonts in OpenOffice and qt4(skype 1.4 beta) applications are blurry.&nbsp; Has anyone encountered the same problem? <br>There is a thread on the Ubuntu mailing list, but it does not offer any solution.<br><br> Any help is appreciated<br><br>I am using Debian Etch with Gnome <br><br>Regards<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Vasil Benov, <br>Mobile: +359(0)889/202682 <br>@-mail: benovv at gmail dot com<br>ICQ: 140269988<br><br>GPG Fingerprint: 2CDC 5DA0 4C0A 7C06 5259&nbsp;&nbsp;DE12 ACF3 177C 8906 0908 <br>Public Key URL:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*) <a href="http://random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de/">http://random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de/</a> ------=_Part_24205_24743854.1186170485280--

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:47:35 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ext3fs errors with kernel 2.6.18 but not with 2.4.27 Message-ID: <20070803194735.GA11068@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 03:26:11PM -0400, Francois Duranleau wrote:
> On 2.4.27, I get the CRC errors (not at boot time, later, and all the
> time thereafter), and I've been having them for many years. I
> mentionned just in case there might be a link with my problem.
> Otherwise, I am not trying to solve this particular problem.
>
> On 2.6.x, at boot time, errors are reported on the initial filesystem
> check. I do not know if I still have those CRC errors.
CRC errors are nothing to be ignored. Either there's a drive problem or the driver hasn't worked for a while. It could be that 2.6 is less forgiving of CRC errors since they are errors that suggest that the data isn't reliable and the drive is failing or failed. Doug.

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 13:32:21 -0700 From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: List Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: converting file system Message-Id: <12A2A339-A1EF-40EE-963A-288140301DDC@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Aug 3, 2007, at 11:35 AM, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> Hopefully, its not /. Anything else you can 'fix' by
> doing a backup, going single-user, unmount the partition, remake the
> filesystem, mount it, and restore the backup, then shutdown back to
> multi-user.
You can do the same thing with / if you boot off a live CD. I've done plenty of dump/restore operations after booting a live CD or even a boot/root floppy... In some ways / is easier because it's usually not very big, unless you've installed everything into it. With other filesystems just finding somewhere to put the backup is often difficult. I've been known to resort to piping the output of dump over an 8-bit-clean SSH connection to another system, and 'cat'ing it to a file on the other end. :)

Can we help you?X

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:49:31 -0600 From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet card 10/100MBs - supported? Message-ID: <20070803204931.GA4393@dementia.proulx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 08/03/07 05:37, Cs=E1nyi P=E1l wrote:
> >>> Is the D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet card 10/100MBs=20
> >>> supported by Debian GNU/Linux Etch?
Yes. Out of the box with the 8139too driver. This will be discovered and configured automatically.
> > I find a Forum on the LinuxQuestions.org [1],
> > and there find that that for this ethernet card the proper driver is
> > via-rhine.
> > [1] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=3D374449
>
> Google is your friend.
But it has led you astray this time. New DFE-530TX+ cards have the RealTek 8139 chip and use the 8139too driver by default. The via-rhine chips I have not seen in a D-Link DFE-530TX in many years and I think are very rare now. Bob

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:55:59 -0600 From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: nfs problem while internet access broken Message-ID: <20070803205559.GB4393@dementia.proulx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Stephane Durieux wrote:
> I have noticed that my clients are not declared in
> /etc/hosts
They won't need to be if you use DNS. But it is acceptable to list them in the local files. Local files override network DNS.
> if I put them in /etc/hosts (and in nis table to be useful)
> everything is find.
You should not need to put hosts in NIS/YP and I recommend against it. NIS/YP for host information is obsolete. It is a holdover from before DNS became the dominant protocol. Having the same data in both places means that they can get out of sync and that leads to confusion. The DRY principle here is don't repeat yourself.
> Nevertheless I don t understand how the nfs can make a
> resolution via dns of a a client whith a private
> address
The NFS mountd will call gethostbyaddr(3). man 3 gethostbyaddr If the information is not available it will fail. But if dns is not available it will timeout trying to look it up.
> Perhaps does the server reply it it s impossible and
> everything is fine to log it
Many server processes will look up client ip addresses that connect and try to log the name. Bob

Date: 03 Aug 2007 20:44:31 GMT From: Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@mail.mcgill.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: MS Word under wine/crossover office Message-ID: <slrnfb78ct.5tg.tyler.smith@blackbart.mynetwork> Thank you everyone for your comments. I am aware that the problem lies entirely in the inconsistent and undocumented .doc format. And I know that rtf suffers from many of the same deficiencies. And I know that pdf is far preferable for most purposes. For reasons that are beyond my control I am required to submit manuscripts in .doc format, and they must conform to very explicit formatting rules. We all know this is dumb, but at the moment I have to deal with it. Please believe that I will be bringing this issue up with the academic societies that I am working with. The specific situation that I am dealing with is generating an rtf file from a latex source, checking that over in the latest version of OOo that is in testing (2.0.4.9), making any further corrections that are necessary, and then saving in .doc format. There were some problems with the handling of natbib options, for which I have submitted fixes upstream to latex2rtf. The main remaining issues are fonts, with the output document containing a variety of different font families when only one should appear, and equations, which generally just disappear. I'm not sure which of these issues are associated with OOo and which with latex2rtf. I can fix latex2rtf bugs and add support for more LaTeX commands, but I do not have the time or expertise to hack OOo. I will look into Wine with Wordviewer as a first step, as that might help me isolate specific differences between OOo and Word that are causing my problems. If I do have to use Crossover Office it is good to know I can start with a free trial. Cheers, Tyler On 2007-08-03, Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> over in OpenOffice only to find that when the same document is opened
>> in Word the formatting is screwed up.
>
> And you are, of course, aware that .doc format is NOT consistent (and it=20
> was never meant to be). If you need to have the same thing displayed on=20
> the clients/boss' computer as on yours you have to use pdf which was=20
> designed for just that.
>
> Regards,
> Andrei
> --=20
> If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
> (Albert Einstein)
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Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 02:45:30 +0530 From: "Masatran, R. Deepak" <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: VLC missing from Debian Testing repository! Message-ID: <20070803211530.GA5012@research.iiit.ac.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline * Franck Joncourt <franck.joncourt@wanadoo.fr> 2007-08-03
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 11:08:16PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:
> > I am looking for VLC. Aptitude is unable to locate it, so I looked at the
> > website. I find that it is present in Stable, Unstable, and OldStable, but
> > not in Testing <http://packages.debian.org/vlc>!
>
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vlc.html
Is there some temporary solution to install it on Debian Testing? -- Masatran, R. Deepak <http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/> -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:24:02 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: MS Word under wine/crossover office Message-ID: <20070803212402.GA13158@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 08:44:31PM +0000, Tyler Smith wrote:
>
> I am aware that the problem lies entirely in the inconsistent and
> undocumented .doc format. And I know that rtf suffers from many of the
> same deficiencies. And I know that pdf is far preferable for most
> purposes. For reasons that are beyond my control I am required to
> submit manuscripts in .doc format, and they must conform to very
> explicit formatting rules. We all know this is dumb, but at the moment
> I have to deal with it. Please believe that I will be bringing this
> issue up with the academic societies that I am working with.
I don't suppose that, while it has to be in .doc format, it doesn't have to be editable? Could you make each page an .eps (or other graphic image) and plonk it down on a page in OO and then save it in .doc? It would then _look_ correctly when viewed with Word and it would be a .doc file, just not an editable one. Just an idea; I've never used Word or OO. Doug.

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 23:44:34 +0200 From: Franck Joncourt <franck.joncourt@wanadoo.fr> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: VLC missing from Debian Testing repository! Message-ID: <20070803214434.GC11029@sid.toystory.lan> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7gGkHNMELEOhSGF6" Content-Disposition: inline --7gGkHNMELEOhSGF6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 02:45:30AM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:
> * Franck Joncourt <franck.joncourt@wanadoo.fr> 2007-08-03
> > On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 11:08:16PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:
> > > I am looking for VLC. Aptitude is unable to locate it, so I looked at=
the
> > > website. I find that it is present in Stable, Unstable, and OldStable=
, but
> > > not in Testing <http://packages.debian.org/vlc>!
> >=20
> > http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vlc.html
>=20
> Is there some temporary solution to install it on Debian Testing?
You may want to get it from : http://snapshot.debian.net/ or from unstable or stable : =3D> man apt_preferences may help you. --=20 Franck Joncourt http://www.debian.org - http://smhteam.info/wiki/ GPG server : pgpkeys.mit.edu Fingerprint : C10E D1D0 EF70 0A2A CACF 9A3C C490 534E 75C0 89FE --7gGkHNMELEOhSGF6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGs6HCxJBTTnXAif4RAmpaAJ9ErhwFNgLAYvEo4mlm6Py1fTzlsACffbZH X/icyg488BTDL9VM/Bb05kk= =t7SL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7gGkHNMELEOhSGF6--

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 16:03:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: re: security newby Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0708031559120.52920@freire2.furyyjbeyq.arg> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The first thing to do with a firewall is to deny all incoming traffic. Once that's been taken care of then decide on which specific types and sources of incoming traffic to allow. This way you can clear out offending ip addresses since they'll all be banned with your first firewall rule. The iptables-howto file has an example of a script in it that does this you could use, but why not install arno-iptables-firewall package and configure it accordingly. It can take care of much of this stuff for you and it can be run on command line if you like too.

Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:31:52 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet card 10/100MBs - supported? Message-ID: <46B39EC8.5090700@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/03/07 15:49, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>> On 08/03/07 05:37, Cs=E1nyi P=E1l wrote:
>>>>> Is the D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet card 10/100MBs=20
>>>>> supported by Debian GNU/Linux Etch?
>=20
> Yes. Out of the box with the 8139too driver. This will be discovered
> and configured automatically.
>=20
>>> I find a Forum on the LinuxQuestions.org [1],
>>> and there find that that for this ethernet card the proper driver is
>>> via-rhine.
>>> [1] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=3D374449
>> Google is your friend.
>=20
> But it has led you astray this time. New DFE-530TX+ cards have the
> RealTek 8139 chip and use the 8139too driver by default. The
> via-rhine chips I have not seen in a D-Link DFE-530TX in many years
> and I think are very rare now.
Rather that OP misled up (and possibly himself). The 3rd Google result for /linux 2.6 "DFE-530TX+" driver/ says that it's 8139 or via-rhine depending on the card revision. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGs57IS9HxQb37XmcRAnoRAKCaO+EmUo1eRNOz3M1EJnwN/hfhZACfSS7w y79C4THE5M7e9Tg34pR/QCw=3D =3D4b3M -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 18:50:45 -0400 From: Brad Sawatzky <brad+debian@swatter.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ext3fs errors with kernel 2.6.18 but not with 2.4.27 Message-ID: <20070803225045.GA17878@enigma.swatter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi Francois, On Fri, 03 Aug 2007, Francois Duranleau wrote:
> On 2.4.27, I get the CRC errors (not at boot time, later, and all the
> time thereafter), and I've been having them for many years. I mentionned
> just in case there might be a link with my problem. Otherwise, I am not
> trying to solve this particular problem.
>
> On 2.6.x, at boot time, errors are reported on the initial filesystem
> check. I do not know if I still have those CRC errors.
I agree with Doug: CRC errors shouldn't be ignored. At _best_ they are a sign that something in your system is marginal. At worst you end up reading and/or writing bogus data. The fact that the errors persisted after you changed hard drives suggest either a bad cable (most likely), bad secondary device on that cable, or bad motherboard (unlikely).
> I will try to see tonight or tomorrow if I can manage to get some logs as
> Douglas suggested. I will also try to look at what driver is in use also.
> Looking at my config-2.6.18 file:
>
> http://www-etud.iro.umontreal.ca/~duranlef/linux-config/config-2.6.18
>
> it's hard to guess. All I know is that all SATA support is disabled.
Your config file says that you're using the 'old' (stable) IDE driver, not the newer PATA drivers. That's (probably) good. FWIW, you could try booting with the kernel option 'hda=autotune" or "idea=autotune" and see what happens. That should allow the driver/chipset to fall back to a slower PIO mode if it sees CRC errors. (Though I don't know what, if anything, it will do if DMA is enabled...) -- Brad

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:55:15 +0000 (UTC) From: - Tong - <mlist4suntong@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: [Semi-solved] Re: Getting Firefox/Iceweasel to open text/pgp files? Message-ID: <f90boj$ge8$2@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:38:36 -0300, Rog=E9rio Brito wrote:
> that's a semi-solution to the problem, but I could find an
> extension to the browser somewhere with Google that makes it open thing=
s
> with the browser
I've tried to find such thing everywhere but all failed. Please share the url that you found.=20 thx a lot --=20 Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 16:29:42 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: sound does not work with Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Message-ID: <20070803232942.GF31947@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OzxllxdKGCiKxUZM" Content-Disposition: inline --OzxllxdKGCiKxUZM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 08:56:05PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
>=20
> [1] I dare you, I double-dare you!
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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:44:39 -0500 From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: converting file system Message-ID: <f90el8$tag$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> On 8/3/07, Jeronimo Pellegrini <pellegrini@mpcnet.com.br> wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 02:35:09PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>>> So I doubt it. How you proceed depends on what mount point we're
>>> talking about. Hopefully, its not /. Anything else you can 'fix' by
>>> doing a backup, going single-user, unmount the partition, remake the
>>> filesystem, mount it, and restore the backup, then shutdown back to
>>> multi-user.
>> Or use convertfs.
>>
>> (apt-cache show convertfs)
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=386967
>
so convertfs is gone. Is there a way to convert from ext2 to anything? Hugo

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:50:07 -0300 From: Sergio Belkin <sebelk@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Opinions XFS Message-Id: <200708032050.07633.sebelk@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was amazed because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs should be a good alternative to ext3 in typical cases, or if it should be relegated to critical missions servers. Thanks in advance! -- Sergio Belkin ----------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:15:42 -0700 From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: converting file system Message-ID: <20070804001542.GG31947@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="O8XZ+2Hy8Kj8wLPZ" Content-Disposition: inline --O8XZ+2Hy8Kj8wLPZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 06:44:39PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Andrew J. Barr wrote:
>> On 8/3/07, Jeronimo Pellegrini <pellegrini@mpcnet.com.br> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 02:35:09PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>>>> So I doubt it. How you proceed depends on what mount point we're
>>>> talking about. Hopefully, its not /. Anything else you can 'fix' by
>>>> doing a backup, going single-user, unmount the partition, remake the
>>>> filesystem, mount it, and restore the backup, then shutdown back to
>>>> multi-user.
>>> Or use convertfs.
>>>
>>> (apt-cache show convertfs)
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D386967
>
> so convertfs is gone.
>
=66rom the RM bug report: - The final step in converting a filesystem, reordering the blocks of the target filesystem, is apparently programmed in a very inefficient way, and it can take weeks for large filesystems to complete convertfs. ----------------------^^^^^^ imagine if you didn't know that going in...=20 sheesh.=20 A --O8XZ+2Hy8Kj8wLPZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGs8UuaIeIEqwil4YRAkYqAJ9E258MPuAjIMUkLpbTO4it0yRohACgv5te 9ao8rSg0Um8H48+n2EcDXvI= =TT+K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --O8XZ+2Hy8Kj8wLPZ--

Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:04:44 -0500 From: Sam Leon <leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Opinions XFS Message-ID: <46B3C29C.3040407@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sergio Belkin wrote:
> Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was amazed
> because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs should be a good
> alternative to ext3 in typical cases, or if it should be relegated to
> critical missions servers.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
From what I have read xfs and jfs can corrupt data quickly if the drive is not properly unmounted first (ie, forced reboot, power outage) People generally stick with ext3 because there is more support for it. Sam End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2093 ************************************************** Received on Fri Aug 3 20:45:10 2007

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