Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:26:11 -0400
From: "Francois Duranleau" <xiao.bai.xiong@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ext3fs errors with kernel 2.6.18 but not with 2.4.27
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On 8/3/07, Brad Sawatzky <brad+debian@swatter.net> wrote:
>
> Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought he got the errors with the old
> kernel (and had for a long time) but they did not trigger a filesystem
> check. My hunch was that the 2.6.x IDE driver (or ext3 driver) is handling
> the error condition in a different way. Perhaps not retrying at all on the
> CRC error, or maybe having a shorter time-out on the retry, who knows...
>
> If he only gets the errors under 2.6.x and not 2.4.27 then it looks more
> like a driver issue. Perhaps his 2.6.x kernel is using the new 'merged'
> SATA+PATA subsystem to handle his PATA drive instead of the old ATA/ATAPI
> driver and that is causing the problem.
It seems like I wasn't clear. Let me try to clarify:
On 2.4.27, I get the CRC errors (not at boot time, later, and all the
time thereafter),
and I've been having them for many years. I mentionned just in case
there might be
a link with my problem. Otherwise, I am not trying to solve this
particular problem.
On 2.6.x, at boot time, errors are reported on the initial filesystem
check. I do
not know if I still have those CRC errors.
I will try to see tonight or tomorrow if I can manage to get some logs
as Douglas
suggested. I will also try to look at what driver is in use also. Looking at my
config-2.6.18 file:
http://www-etud.iro.umontreal.ca/~duranlef/linux-config/config-2.6.18
it's hard to guess. All I know is that all SATA support is disabled.
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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:46:42 +0100
From: Jamin Davis <jweb@ghost.merseine.nu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Setfont
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Loeghmon T. Nejad <loeghmon@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a minimal installation of Debian Etch (with xserver-xorg-core
> installed) that gives me an error message when I run the script -at the
> bottom of this email.
> The message says,
I think you are missing the 'kbd' package which contains setfont and mapscrn
requested my your script: run apt-get install kbd.
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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:48:05 +0300
From: "Vasil Benov" <benovv@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Blurry fonts in OpenOffice and qt4 appliations
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Hi all,
The fonts in OpenOffice and qt4(skype 1.4 beta) applications are blurry.
Has anyone encountered the same problem?
There is a thread on the Ubuntu mailing list, but it does not offer any
solution.
Any help is appreciated
I am using Debian Etch with Gnome
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Hi all,<br><br>The fonts in OpenOffice and qt4(skype 1.4 beta) applications are blurry. Has anyone encountered the same problem? <br>There is a thread on the Ubuntu mailing list, but it does not offer any solution.<br><br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:47:35 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ext3fs errors with kernel 2.6.18 but not with 2.4.27
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On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 03:26:11PM -0400, Francois Duranleau wrote:
> On 2.4.27, I get the CRC errors (not at boot time, later, and all the
> time thereafter), and I've been having them for many years. I
> mentionned just in case there might be a link with my problem.
> Otherwise, I am not trying to solve this particular problem.
>
> On 2.6.x, at boot time, errors are reported on the initial filesystem
> check. I do not know if I still have those CRC errors.
CRC errors are nothing to be ignored. Either there's a drive problem or
the driver hasn't worked for a while. It could be that 2.6 is less
forgiving of CRC errors since they are errors that suggest that the data
isn't reliable and the drive is failing or failed.
Doug.
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 13:32:21 -0700
From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu>
To: List Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: converting file system
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On Aug 3, 2007, at 11:35 AM, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> Hopefully, its not /. Anything else you can 'fix' by
> doing a backup, going single-user, unmount the partition, remake the
> filesystem, mount it, and restore the backup, then shutdown back to
> multi-user.
You can do the same thing with / if you boot off a live CD. I've
done plenty of dump/restore operations after booting a live CD or
even a boot/root floppy...
In some ways / is easier because it's usually not very big, unless
you've installed everything into it. With other filesystems just
finding somewhere to put the backup is often difficult. I've been
known to resort to piping the output of dump over an 8-bit-clean SSH
connection to another system, and 'cat'ing it to a file on the other
end. :)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:49:31 -0600
From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet card 10/100MBs - supported?
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Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 08/03/07 05:37, Cs=E1nyi P=E1l wrote:
> >>> Is the D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet card 10/100MBs=20
> >>> supported by Debian GNU/Linux Etch?
Yes. Out of the box with the 8139too driver. This will be discovered
and configured automatically.
> > I find a Forum on the LinuxQuestions.org [1],
> > and there find that that for this ethernet card the proper driver is
> > via-rhine.
> > [1] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=3D374449
>
> Google is your friend.
But it has led you astray this time. New DFE-530TX+ cards have the
RealTek 8139 chip and use the 8139too driver by default. The
via-rhine chips I have not seen in a D-Link DFE-530TX in many years
and I think are very rare now.
Bob
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:55:59 -0600
From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: nfs problem while internet access broken
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Stephane Durieux wrote:
> I have noticed that my clients are not declared in
> /etc/hosts
They won't need to be if you use DNS. But it is acceptable to list
them in the local files. Local files override network DNS.
> if I put them in /etc/hosts (and in nis table to be useful)
> everything is find.
You should not need to put hosts in NIS/YP and I recommend against it.
NIS/YP for host information is obsolete. It is a holdover from before
DNS became the dominant protocol. Having the same data in both places
means that they can get out of sync and that leads to confusion. The
DRY principle here is don't repeat yourself.
> Nevertheless I don t understand how the nfs can make a
> resolution via dns of a a client whith a private
> address
The NFS mountd will call gethostbyaddr(3).
man 3 gethostbyaddr
If the information is not available it will fail. But if dns is not
available it will timeout trying to look it up.
> Perhaps does the server reply it it s impossible and
> everything is fine to log it
Many server processes will look up client ip addresses that connect
and try to log the name.
Bob
Date: 03 Aug 2007 20:44:31 GMT
From: Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@mail.mcgill.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: MS Word under wine/crossover office
Message-ID: <slrnfb78ct.5tg.tyler.smith@blackbart.mynetwork>
Thank you everyone for your comments.
I am aware that the problem lies entirely in the inconsistent and
undocumented .doc format. And I know that rtf suffers from many of the
same deficiencies. And I know that pdf is far preferable for most
purposes. For reasons that are beyond my control I am required to
submit manuscripts in .doc format, and they must conform to very
explicit formatting rules. We all know this is dumb, but at the moment
I have to deal with it. Please believe that I will be bringing this
issue up with the academic societies that I am working with.
The specific situation that I am dealing with is generating an rtf
file from a latex source, checking that over in the latest version of
OOo that is in testing (2.0.4.9), making any further corrections that
are necessary, and then saving in .doc format. There were some
problems with the handling of natbib options, for which I have
submitted fixes upstream to latex2rtf. The main remaining issues are
fonts, with the output document containing a variety of different font
families when only one should appear, and equations, which generally
just disappear. I'm not sure which of these issues are associated with
OOo and which with latex2rtf. I can fix latex2rtf bugs and add support
for more LaTeX commands, but I do not have the time or expertise to
hack OOo.
I will look into Wine with Wordviewer as a first step, as that might
help me isolate specific differences between OOo and Word that are
causing my problems. If I do have to use Crossover Office it is good
to know I can start with a free trial.
Cheers,
Tyler
On 2007-08-03, Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:41:54PM +0000, Tyler Smith wrote:
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>> over in OpenOffice only to find that when the same document is opened
>> in Word the formatting is screwed up.
>
> And you are, of course, aware that .doc format is NOT consistent (and it=20
> was never meant to be). If you need to have the same thing displayed on=20
> the clients/boss' computer as on yours you have to use pdf which was=20
> designed for just that.
>
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Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 02:45:30 +0530
From: "Masatran, R. Deepak" <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: VLC missing from Debian Testing repository!
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* Franck Joncourt <franck.joncourt@wanadoo.fr> 2007-08-03
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 11:08:16PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:
> > I am looking for VLC. Aptitude is unable to locate it, so I looked at the
> > website. I find that it is present in Stable, Unstable, and OldStable, but
> > not in Testing <http://packages.debian.org/vlc>!
>
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vlc.html
Is there some temporary solution to install it on Debian Testing?
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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:24:02 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: MS Word under wine/crossover office
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On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 08:44:31PM +0000, Tyler Smith wrote:
>
> I am aware that the problem lies entirely in the inconsistent and
> undocumented .doc format. And I know that rtf suffers from many of the
> same deficiencies. And I know that pdf is far preferable for most
> purposes. For reasons that are beyond my control I am required to
> submit manuscripts in .doc format, and they must conform to very
> explicit formatting rules. We all know this is dumb, but at the moment
> I have to deal with it. Please believe that I will be bringing this
> issue up with the academic societies that I am working with.
I don't suppose that, while it has to be in .doc format, it doesn't have
to be editable? Could you make each page an .eps (or other graphic
image) and plonk it down on a page in OO and then save it in .doc? It
would then _look_ correctly when viewed with Word and it would be a .doc
file, just not an editable one.
Just an idea; I've never used Word or OO.
Doug.
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 23:44:34 +0200
From: Franck Joncourt <franck.joncourt@wanadoo.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: VLC missing from Debian Testing repository!
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> * Franck Joncourt <franck.joncourt@wanadoo.fr> 2007-08-03
> > On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 11:08:16PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:
> > > I am looking for VLC. Aptitude is unable to locate it, so I looked at=
the
> > > website. I find that it is present in Stable, Unstable, and OldStable=
, but
> > > not in Testing <http://packages.debian.org/vlc>!
> >=20
> > http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vlc.html
>=20
> Is there some temporary solution to install it on Debian Testing?
You may want to get it from :
http://snapshot.debian.net/
or from unstable or stable :
=3D> man apt_preferences may help you.
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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 16:03:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: re: security newby
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The first thing to do with a firewall is to deny all incoming traffic.
Once that's been taken care of then decide on which specific types and
sources of incoming traffic to allow. This way you can clear out
offending ip addresses since they'll all be banned with your first
firewall rule. The iptables-howto file has an example of a script in it
that does this you could use, but why not install arno-iptables-firewall
package and configure it accordingly. It can take care of much of this
stuff for you and it can be run on command line if you like too.
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:31:52 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet card 10/100MBs - supported?
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On 08/03/07 15:49, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>> On 08/03/07 05:37, Cs=E1nyi P=E1l wrote:
>>>>> Is the D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet card 10/100MBs=20
>>>>> supported by Debian GNU/Linux Etch?
>=20
> Yes. Out of the box with the 8139too driver. This will be discovered
> and configured automatically.
>=20
>>> I find a Forum on the LinuxQuestions.org [1],
>>> and there find that that for this ethernet card the proper driver is
>>> via-rhine.
>>> [1] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=3D374449
>> Google is your friend.
>=20
> But it has led you astray this time. New DFE-530TX+ cards have the
> RealTek 8139 chip and use the 8139too driver by default. The
> via-rhine chips I have not seen in a D-Link DFE-530TX in many years
> and I think are very rare now.
Rather that OP misled up (and possibly himself).
The 3rd Google result for /linux 2.6 "DFE-530TX+" driver/ says that
it's 8139 or via-rhine depending on the card revision.
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Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!
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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 18:50:45 -0400
From: Brad Sawatzky <brad+debian@swatter.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ext3fs errors with kernel 2.6.18 but not with 2.4.27
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Hi Francois,
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007, Francois Duranleau wrote:
> On 2.4.27, I get the CRC errors (not at boot time, later, and all the
> time thereafter), and I've been having them for many years. I mentionned
> just in case there might be a link with my problem. Otherwise, I am not
> trying to solve this particular problem.
>
> On 2.6.x, at boot time, errors are reported on the initial filesystem
> check. I do not know if I still have those CRC errors.
I agree with Doug: CRC errors shouldn't be ignored. At _best_ they are a
sign that something in your system is marginal. At worst you end up
reading and/or writing bogus data. The fact that the errors persisted
after you changed hard drives suggest either a bad cable (most likely), bad
secondary device on that cable, or bad motherboard (unlikely).
> I will try to see tonight or tomorrow if I can manage to get some logs as
> Douglas suggested. I will also try to look at what driver is in use also.
> Looking at my config-2.6.18 file:
>
> http://www-etud.iro.umontreal.ca/~duranlef/linux-config/config-2.6.18
>
> it's hard to guess. All I know is that all SATA support is disabled.
Your config file says that you're using the 'old' (stable) IDE driver, not
the newer PATA drivers. That's (probably) good.
FWIW, you could try booting with the kernel option 'hda=autotune" or
"idea=autotune" and see what happens. That should allow the driver/chipset
to fall back to a slower PIO mode if it sees CRC errors. (Though I don't
know what, if anything, it will do if DMA is enabled...)
-- Brad
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:55:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: - Tong - <mlist4suntong@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Semi-solved] Re: Getting Firefox/Iceweasel to open text/pgp
files?
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On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:38:36 -0300, Rog=E9rio Brito wrote:
> that's a semi-solution to the problem, but I could find an
> extension to the browser somewhere with Google that makes it open thing=
s
> with the browser
I've tried to find such thing everywhere but all failed. Please share the
url that you found.=20
thx a lot
--=20
Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/
http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 16:29:42 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: sound does not work with Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
(ICH5/ICH5R)
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On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 08:56:05PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
>=20
> [1] I dare you, I double-dare you!
make me! make me! ;-P
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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:44:39 -0500
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: converting file system
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Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> On 8/3/07, Jeronimo Pellegrini <pellegrini@mpcnet.com.br> wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 02:35:09PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>>> So I doubt it. How you proceed depends on what mount point we're
>>> talking about. Hopefully, its not /. Anything else you can 'fix' by
>>> doing a backup, going single-user, unmount the partition, remake the
>>> filesystem, mount it, and restore the backup, then shutdown back to
>>> multi-user.
>> Or use convertfs.
>>
>> (apt-cache show convertfs)
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=386967
>
so convertfs is gone.
Is there a way to convert from ext2 to anything?
Hugo
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:50:07 -0300
From: Sergio Belkin <sebelk@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Opinions XFS
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Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was amazed
because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs should be a good
alternative to ext3 in typical cases, or if it should be relegated to
critical missions servers.
Thanks in advance!
--
Sergio Belkin
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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:15:42 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: converting file system
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On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 06:44:39PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Andrew J. Barr wrote:
>> On 8/3/07, Jeronimo Pellegrini <pellegrini@mpcnet.com.br> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 02:35:09PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>>>> So I doubt it. How you proceed depends on what mount point we're
>>>> talking about. Hopefully, its not /. Anything else you can 'fix' by
>>>> doing a backup, going single-user, unmount the partition, remake the
>>>> filesystem, mount it, and restore the backup, then shutdown back to
>>>> multi-user.
>>> Or use convertfs.
>>>
>>> (apt-cache show convertfs)
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D386967
>
> so convertfs is gone.
>
=66rom the RM bug report:
- The final step in converting a filesystem, reordering the blocks of
the target filesystem, is apparently programmed in a very inefficient
way, and it can take weeks for large filesystems to complete
convertfs.
----------------------^^^^^^
imagine if you didn't know that going in...=20
sheesh.=20
A
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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:04:44 -0500
From: Sam Leon <leon.mailinglist.36@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Opinions XFS
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Sergio Belkin wrote:
> Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was amazed
> because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs should be a good
> alternative to ext3 in typical cases, or if it should be relegated to
> critical missions servers.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
From what I have read xfs and jfs can corrupt data quickly if the drive
is not properly unmounted first (ie, forced reboot, power outage)
People generally stick with ext3 because there is more support for it.
Sam
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