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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2102

Today's Topics: 

  Re: odd xorg-video-intel problem      [ Andrew Sackville-West  ]
  DVDs play with mplayer but not xine   [ Mark Zimmerman  ]
  Automated PDF modification            [ Gregory Seidman  ]
  Re: video editing of digicam avi fil  [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: DVDs play with mplayer but not x  [ Ron Johnson  ]
  replacement for apt-listchanges?      [ Vincent Lefevre  ]
  Public PC                             [ "Dave Walker"  ]
  Syntax error in bitops.h:244          [ "Adam Gray"  ]
  Re: Get display back?                 [ Jeff  ]
  Re: replacement for apt-listchanges?  [ Vincent Lefevre 

Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 10:23:34 -0700


From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: odd xorg-video-intel problem
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On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 11:24:46PM +0900, Takehiko Abe wrote:

> Andrew J. Barr wrote:
>
> > The file /var/log/Xorg.0.log would help with diagnostics.
>
> only if I know how to interpret it...
>
> There are in total 10 entries marked 'EE', all identical:
>
>   (EE) intel(0): Unable to write to SDVOCTRL_E for SDVOB Slave 0x70.
>
> Is this normal? ... OK, silly question. Errors are not normal.
>
> > Also, consider posting to the xorg@lists.freedesktop.org list, a
> > number of Intel employees are active there.
>
> I think I need to do my homework before posting there. And that
> would be quite a task for me. I am very new to XWindows.
>
> > Additionally, consult the driver documentation. I believe you can
> > turn on a debug mode in the modesetting code by specifying an option
> > in xorg.conf. This might help you or someone else figure out what's
> > wrong.
>
> Doesn't help me. For instance, with debugging enabled, the above error
> entry became:
>
>   (EE) intel(0): Unable to write to SDVOCTRL_E for SDVOB Slave 0x70.
>   (II) intel(0): SDVO: W: 7A 02   (SDVO_CMD_SET_CONTROL_BUS_SWITCH)
>   (II) intel(0): SDVO: W: 7A 02   (SDVO_CMD_SET_CONTROL_BUS_SWITCH)
>
> >
> > My own experience with the 965:
> >
> > I have a 965 connected to an widescreen 1440x900 LCD monitor via a VGA
> > connector. When X starts, it starts in a non-native resolution, but
> > after I log in the GNOME session software changes the native
> > resolution which I specified in the Screen Resolution control panel.
>
> I wonder how modlines and the control panel interacts. If the setting
> in a control panel overrides modeline setting, why do I need modelines?
Do you need help?X

the control panel doesn't override the modelines. It presents a list
of all available modes as determined by xorg. This includes probed
modes that may not be specified in the xorg.conf.=20

>
> btw, I tried xvidtune and it appears no matter what values I specify it=

=20

> says:
>
>      Sorry: You have requested a mode-line that is not possible
>      or not supported by your hardware configuration.
>

yes. don't bother with xvidtune.



using xrandr you can list and change to whatever available modes you
like. If you find the right mode in that list, then use that modes
information instead of the custom modes I'm about to talk about.



> Weird.
>
> sigh... I thought I could avoid this kind of hassle by choosing the
> intel 965G.

heh. heh. well...



okay, her's what I did and it finally works beautifully on my wife's
machien with 1440x900. The problem I had is that xorg was always
choosing a mode at 59.9 hz which the monitor couldn't display properly
and it would also cause the monitor blankout sometimes. I used the
online modeline generator to get a modeline that fit the specs of the
monitor.=20



This custom modeline I entered into xrg.conf with a names like
1440x900_75. I think the _ was critical as it put that modeline at the
top of the list which makes it the one xorg chooses. Other attempts by
me used a more normal mode name and that put the mode further down the
list causing xorg to not choose it by default (the list I'm referring
to is the one produced by xrandr which is what xorg uses now, I
believe).



pertinent parts of xorg.conf



Do you need more help?X

Section "Device"

        Identifier      "Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
        Chipset Integrated Graphics Device"
        Driver          "intel"
        BusID           "PCI:0:2:0"
#       Option          "UseFBDev"              "true"
        Option          "ModeDebug" "YES"

Can we help you?X

        Option          "Monitor-VGA" "19MVWK"


EndSection



note the "Monitor-VGA" option which specifies whichmonitor to
use. Though we only have one, I believe this is important.




Section "Monitor"

        Identifier      "19MVWk"
        Option          "DPMS"
        HorizSync       31-81
        VertRefresh     56-76
        Modeline "1440x900_75"  136.49  1440 1536 1688 1936  900 901
        904 940  -HSync +Vsync



EndSection



That monitor-vga option *makes* xorg look to this section for the
modes. note that the modeline should be all on one line.  Also, I
speced the vert refresh just slightly over the max because its
possible for a modeline to calculate out to something other than the
exact hz setting and if that's the case, then xorg will reject it even
though its perfectly fine. for example, the 59.9 hz I mentioned
above. xorg calls it a 60hz setting, but its not, and if the probed
vertrefresh  rate was 60hz then it would be rejected because the
calculated rate wouldn't fit.=20



I hope this ramble helps a bit.



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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 12:56:55 -0400


From: Tong Sun <mlist4suntong@yahoo.com>
To: 436127@bugs.debian.org


Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: RE: less, exit but left content on screen
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n Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:53:35 -0400, Tong Sun wrote:


> Package: less
> Version: 394-4
> Severity: wishlist

Sorry, this is a dup of Bug#436057, wrongly sent twice. 
I don't know how to close it.



thanks


Don't know where to look next?X

Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 11:14:11 -0600


From: Mark Zimmerman <markz@frii.net>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: DVDs play with mplayer but not xine

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Greetings:



This has to be in a FAQ somewhere but I just can't find it. When I try
to play a dvd with xine, it says it cannot play encrypted disks. I
have installed libdvdcss2 and it works fine for playing dvds with
mplayer, but xine still refuses.



I am using mplayer and xine from stable, and libdvdcss2 from
debian-multimedia.



Can someone please fill in the missing link?



Thanks,


-- Mark



Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 13:30:57 -0400


From: Gregory Seidman <gsslist+debian@anthropohedron.net>
To: Debian users list <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Automated PDF modification

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Confused? Frustrated?X

I have a PDF with a whole bunch of internal links. Many of them are simple
page links, and work just fine in xpdf. Some did not work in xpdf, however,
and upon investigation with Adobe Acrobat Professional I determined that
they are JavaScript links that run this.pageNum=N where N is the page
number to go to. Since xpdf does not seem to support JavaScript, I'd like
some automated way to convert those links to be the simple kind that it
does support. I looked into using Acrobat Professional, but there does not
seem to be any way to accomplish what I want without doing it manually for
each link.



Does anyone know of a way to script modification of a PDF document,
particularly its links? I'd even be happy with a dependable C library to do
the manipulation.



--Greg



Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 13:25:12 -0400


From: Tong Sun <mlist4suntong@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Cc: 436057@bugs.debian.org


Subject: Re: less, exit but left content on screen
Message-Id: <200708051725.l75HPC6L016343@cxmr.dyndns.org>



On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 01:55:13 +0000, Andy Smith wrote:


> On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 09:06:19PM -0400, Tong Sun wrote:
>> I remember that I used to be able to exit 'less' by command key 'x' or
>> something so that the content just viewed is left on screen, instead of
>> being cleared and restored to the screen before invoking 'less'. But I
>> found there is no such capability in current less (version 394). Or
>> is there? 
> 
> Can't you just call "less -X" or set the environment variable LESS
> to contain "-X"?

Thanks for all replies. On reviewing them and the faq, I think my wish
still holds. 


Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

Just like John Hasler has pointed out, the -X disables termcap
initialization and deinitialization. The effect is that, when I
browse say a big file, paging up and down several times, and then
exit, my xterm will be left with all contents that I've browsed,
with " ...skipping... " in between them.



So having a keyboard command 'x' or something can allows me, 



  •   have the freedom to decide whether I want to leave the content or not

  
  •   invoke less the same way, no matter whether I want to leave the
  content or not

  
  •   leave my xterm with the only pageful of info that I deliberately
  chosen, instead of cluttering it with all the contents that I've
  viewed. 




I don't know if this is possible. But it's a nice feature. It comes
especially handy when you want to preserve your xterm scroll-back
history as much as possible, but still able to copy the content out
of the man page, which might be lengthy and might took a while for
your to locate where you want to copy from.



Thanks


-- 
Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
  
http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/
  
http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 13:13:19 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: video editing of digicam avi files
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On 08/05/07 11:12, H.S. wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to find a method to make an mpeg movie from a number of avi
> files captured from a digital camera (Canon A540). Any suggestions what
> steps to follow? The original videos are at 15 fps and I am not too
> concerned about the output fps. However, if I wanted a DVD from the avi
> files, I suppose I would need to have either 24 or 30 fps.


avifile-utils and mencoder are where I would start.


> Also, any idea how do I go about making short captions between two avi
> files? Something like the titler in Kino.


Why not use kino?

dvdauthor might also do it.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 13:15:04 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: DVDs play with mplayer but not xine
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On 08/05/07 12:14, Mark Zimmerman wrote:

> Greetings:
> 
> This has to be in a FAQ somewhere but I just can't find it. When I try
> to play a dvd with xine, it says it cannot play encrypted disks. I
> have installed libdvdcss2 and it works fine for playing dvds with
> mplayer, but xine still refuses.
> 
> I am using mplayer and xine from stable, and libdvdcss2 from
> debian-multimedia.
> 
> Can someone please fill in the missing link?


Is w32codecs installed?

Will the DVD play in vlc?

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 20:36:52 +0200
From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: replacement for apt-listchanges?
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Is there a replacement for apt-listchanges, not written in python?

--=20
Vincent Lef=E8vre <vincent(at)vinc17.org> - Web: <http://www.vinc17.org/>
100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <http://www.vinc17.org/blog/>
Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)



Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 22:41:20 +0300
From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Weird cron behavior
Message-ID: <20070805194120.GA10639@think.homenet>
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On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 09:26:28AM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:

>=20
> I left my machine on overnight ( I usually don't )  and got these
> messages in my mail this morning:


You probably have cron-apt installed.

Regards,
Andrei
--=20
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Do you need help?X

Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 22:51:32 +0300
From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: less, exit but left content on screen
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On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 12:56:55PM -0400, Tong Sun wrote:

> n Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:53:35 -0400, Tong Sun wrote:
>=20
> > Package: less
> > Version: 394-4
> > Severity: wishlist
>=20
> Sorry, this is a dup of Bug#436057, wrongly sent twice.=20
> I don't know how to close it.


You can close a bug by sending a mail to bugnr-done@bugs.debian.org

Regards,
Andrei
--=20
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
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Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:56:00 +0200
From: Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: replacement for apt-listchanges?
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Hi Vincent.

Vincent Lefevre, 05.08.2007 20:36:

> Is there a replacement for apt-listchanges, not written in python?


Not that I knew of. What=E2=80=99s the problem with apt-listchanges writt=
en in Python?


Regards, Mathias

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 15:06:10 -0500
From: "Dave Walker" <carol.dave.walker@gmail.com>
To: "Debian.Org HELP" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Public PC
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I hope to place a PC running Etch in our small (tiny, actually)
airport building for use by pilots. The PC will be used to access
perhaps 10 web sites (plus or minus) over a DSL connection and to run
a few utilities to show GMT and a calculator and maybe a few
additional applications. The box will also serve as a real-time data
collection platform and web server for a local weather observing
system, so I want to prevent it from being re-booted.

I hope to make the PC reasonably idiot proof (the box will be kept
separate from the users) - the keyboard and display will be
accessible. The goal is to keep users from inadvertently trashing the
machine, but to provide usability.

Should I run a GUI (currently Gnome is installed)? How do I restrict
access to functions that users shouldn't access?

Is there a way to run a menu system, without using a Gnome...perhaps
another window manager?

Thanks, all
Dave W.



Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 16:10:51 -0400
From: "Andrew J. Barr" <andrew.james.barr@gmail.com>
To: "Dave Walker" <carol.dave.walker@gmail.com>
Cc: "Debian.Org HELP" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Public PC
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On 8/5/07, Dave Walker <carol.dave.walker@gmail.com> wrote:

> I hope to make the PC reasonably idiot proof (the box will be kept
> separate from the users) - the keyboard and display will be
> accessible. The goal is to keep users from inadvertently trashing the
> machine, but to provide usability.


Sabayon provides the ability to lock down GNOME and any GNOME app, in
addition to Firefox, and Openoffice.org. Also, you can restrict access
to certain features by setting some GConf keys. I believe GNOME has a
system administrator's guide which details exactly what is possible
and what their recommendations are.

-- 
Andrew Barr

We matter more than pounds and pence,
your economic theory makes no sense...



Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 16:28:33 -0400
From: Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Computer freezes with linux-image-2.6.21-2
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On Friday 13 July 2007 11:50, Brad Rogers wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:42:12 +0200
> "Mirco Piccin" <pictux@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Mirco,
>
> > > All seems well here, with the -k7 version.  Are you using the -686,
> > > by any chance?
> >
> > I'm using 2.6.21-2-686 with no problems.
>
> I recall a guy asking if anyone was having trouble with the -686 kernel
> on another list, although nothing seems to have been resolved for him,
> as yet.


Hi, y'all!

Same freeze here with ASUS P5PE and 2.6.21-2-686
I thought at first that KDE 3.5.7 was the culprit. But the system freezes even 
with kdm just sittingin on the logon screen, the machine doing nothing.
Last message I got was "disabling IRQ #16" when I happenend to be on the logon 
prompt of tty2. Nobody logged in, the computer being idle.
Yes, it seems to be a kernel problem.

lxcl01:~# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub 
Interface (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated 
Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI 
Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI 
Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI 
Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI 
Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI 
Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface 
Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE 
Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) 
AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:0b.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D / AIC-7881U
01:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit 
Ethernet Controller (rev 13)

part of
lxcl01:~# hwinfo |grep -i irq
  0: uart:16550A port:000003F8 irq:4 tx:135 rx:7 brk:7 RTS|CTS|DTR
  1: uart:unknown port:000002F8 irq:3
  2: uart:unknown port:000003E8 irq:4
  3: uart:unknown port:000002E8 irq:3
  uart 16550A, line 0, port 0x3f8, irq 4, baud 0
irq:1  0 (       85) "timer"
irq:0  1 (      848) "i8042"
irq:1  4 (       46) "serial"
irq:1  6 (        5) "floppy"
irq:1  8 (        1) "rtc"
irq:0  9 (        1) "acpi"
irq:0 12 (     3899) "i8042"
irq:0 16 (    26755) "ehci_hcd:usb1" "eth0"
irq:0 17 (       29) "uhci_hcd:usb2" "uhci_hcd:usb5"
irq:0 18 (        0) "uhci_hcd:usb3"
irq:2 19 (  2404840) "uhci_hcd:usb4" "ide0" "ide1"
irq:0 20 (      184) "aic7xxx"
irq:0 21 (     6304) "Intel ICH5"
  used irqs: 0,1,4,6,8,9,10,12,16,17,18,19,20,21
  IRQ: 0 (85 events)
  IRQ: 8 (1 event)
  IRQ: 6 (5 events)
  IRQ: 10 (no events)
  IRQ: 17 (29 events)
  IRQ: 18 (no events)
  IRQ: 19 (2404840 events)
  IRQ: 17 (29 events)
  IRQ: 16 (26755 events)
  IRQ: 19 (2404840 events)
  IRQ: 21 (6304 events)
  IRQ: 20 (184 events)
  IRQ: 16 (26755 events)
  IRQ: 4 (46 events)

Cheers (or not so cheery), Eike

-- 
Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Casilla de Correo 1519
1209 Asuncion / Paraguay



Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:42:29 +0100
From: "Adam Gray" <adam@bandstand.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Syntax error in bitops.h:244
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Here's the story.

By the magic of aptitude, I installed a package that wanted udev, and
as a result got rid of hotplug by accident. So I removed this package
(can't remember what it was, nothing terribly important), reinstalled
hotplug and thought nothing of it.

A bit later, however, I noticed that my USB modem wasn't firmware-ing
properly when I plugged it in. So I assumed (rather uninformedly) that
after reinstalling hotplug, the eagle-usb thing hadn't registered with
it properly. Ha ha ha thinks I, I'll just reinstall the modem driver.
Bad move: I'd forgotten the hell it took to make it work in the first
place. Unfortunately I only remembered this *after* 'make uninstall'.
Next, various gcc version conflicts got in my way; managed to sort
them out reasonably OK-ly. Now I have 3.3.5 symlinked to /usr/bin/gcc,
same as the kernel. All fine. Eagle-usb now ./configures correctly.

But I get some weird stuff while makeing. FIrst few things (DSP codes)
compile fine, but it gets stuck on compiling eaglectrl. Error I get is
(not exactly since for obvious reasons I'm on windows now and can't
copy & paste between) syntax error in
/usr/include/asm-i486/bitops.h:244.

Any reason for this? I guess (again uninformedly...) some kind of
libc6 versioin problem? Or something? :S

Thanks. :-)

A

-- 
Adam Gray
"Life + self-doubt = peace"
        -- Jan Buttinger



Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 09:03:42 +1200
From: Jeff <professorwagstaff@gmail.com>
To: Debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Get display back?
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Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

> Keep the reply on the list please.
>
> On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 02:44:45PM +1200, Jeff wrote:
>   
>> Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>>     
>>> Another way to get into the box is to boot the install CD in rescue
>>> mode.  From the menus, you can get a shell that is chrooted into the
>>> box.  From there, you can either edit xorg.conf or you may even be able
>>> to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
>>>
>>> Also, there's an option inbetween a normal boot and an init=/bin/sh,
>>> that is 's', for single.  This will run through the /etc/rcS.d scripts
>>> and prompt for the root password.
>>>  
>>>       
>> Thanks for that! I booted the single user mode from the Grub Menu and 
>> got the command prompt from there.
>> Ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root then changed the driver back 
>> to "nv" and the display is back.
>>
>>     
>  
> So, on to why the nvidia driver isn't working for you.  Are you running
> Etch with stock kernel and have the matching nvidia kernel package,
> nvidia-xconfig, and nvidia-glx?  How did you try to set it up before?
>
> Doug.
>
> I am using kernel 26.18.-4-K7, card is nvidia FX 5200 . I used a step by step guide from a website (which i cant find now) I would need to use an easy better guide. Any suggestions?

Jeff

>  
>   

Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 22:59:27 +0200
From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: replacement for apt-listchanges?
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On 2007-08-05 21:56:00 +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote:

> Vincent Lefevre, 05.08.2007 20:36:
> > Is there a replacement for apt-listchanges, not written in python?
>=20
> Not that I knew of. What=E2=80=99s the problem with apt-listchanges wri=

tten

> in Python?


Python breaks too often (at least on Debian). The problem is that in
case of such error, the error (though detectable) is ignored and the
packages are installed without any user confirmation. Displaying the
contents of new information of the NEWS file before the installation
of packages is very important, as there may be critical changes (there
have been such changes in exim4, but also in X11-related packages,
where old[*] drivers may have been removed).

Now, it seems that modifying /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20listchanges should
be a workaround (but I'm not very confident in such user-side changes,
as sooner or later they often lead to problems).

[*] but still necessary under some conditions.

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