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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2111

Today's Topics:

  Re: Hard disk dying?                  [ Sam  ]
  Re: Virtual Networking Interface Pro  [ Anson Gardner  ]
  Re: Opinions XFS                      [ Douglas Allan Tutty  ]
  Re: Any suggestions on good CLI news  [ Amit Uttamchandani  ]
  Re: DNS problem on local network      [ Douglas Allan Tutty  ]

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:59:13 -0700
From: Sam <transiency@transiency.org>
To: "Justin Piszcz" <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> Cc: "List Debian User" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Hard disk dying?
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Justin,
Should I unmount the drive before doing the tests?

Do you need help?

Thanks,
Sam

On 8/6/07, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Sam wrote:
>
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Justin, here is the output from smartctl -a /dev/hda
> >
> > smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce
> Allen
> > Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
>
> Your disk looks OK to me, I have seen Device Status Error in the past as
> well but never suffered any ill effects.
>
> Some other things to try:
>
> smartctl -t short /dev/hda # wait 5min
> smartclt -l selftest /dev/hda
>
> smartctl -t long /dev/hda # wait 6-120 min
> smartclt -l selftest /dev/hda
>
> and/then show smartctl -a output again
> if all the tests pass, your disk should be OK
>
>
>
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Justin, Should I unmount the drive before doing the tests? Thanks, Sam <div>On 8/6/07, Justin Piszcz <<a href="mailto:jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com"> jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Sam wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Justin, here is the output from smartctl -a /dev/hda > > smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen > Home page is <a href="http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/"> http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/</a> Your disk looks OK to me, I have seen Device Status Error in the past as well but never suffered any ill effects. Some other things to try: smartctl -t short /dev/hda # wait 5min smartclt -l selftest /dev/hda smartctl -t long /dev/hda  # wait 6-120 min smartclt -l selftest /dev/hda and/then show smartctl -a output again if all the tests pass, your disk should be OK </blockquote></div>

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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:59:25 -0500
From: Anson Gardner <ansongardner@poncacity.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Monday 06 August 2007 12:12, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I've been working on a project with some Linksys routers. New routers
> are set to use the IP address 192.168.1.1 and my network uses the
> 172.16.*.* address space. I've had this in my
> workstation's /etc/network/interfaces file:
>
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 172.16.7.11
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 172.16.7.1
>
> To access the Linksys routers when I first get them, I added this:
>
> auto eth0:0
> iface eth0:0 inet static
> address 192.168.1.128
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 172.16.7.1
>
> Then I restarted my network and I have eth0:0 with the address
> 192.168.1.128. Using route gives this (edited for space):
>
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
> Iface
> 172.16.7.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
> 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
> link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0
> default fw.loc.lan 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
> default fw.loc.lan 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
>
> (fw.loc.lan is the firewall between my LAN and the Internet.)
>
> I don't see any reference to eht0:0 at all. I don't know if that
> matters.
>
> After restarting my network, I can't reach anything on the Internet.
>
> Does it matter that route doesn't seem to see a difference between eth0
> and eth0:0?
>
> What do I need to do to be able to do this and not lose access to
> domains on the other side of my gateway? Why does it change routing so
> my computer doesn't work through the regular gateway I've set?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Hal

Do you need more help?

You don't need to specify the gateway for eth0:0.

I also needed to configure devices that had distinct ip address values by default. I had a similar setup until recently when I switched to using ip syntax instead of the 'old way.' Here's a sample of my interfaces file:

address 123.456.789.2
netmask 255.255.255.252
gateway 123.456.789.1

up ip addr add 10.1.250.15/24 brd 10.1.250.255 dev eth0 label eth0:0 up ip addr add 10.10.10.15/24 brd 10.10.10.255 dev eth0 label eth0:1

aptitude install iproute
man ip
See if something like that will work for you.

Regards,

Anson

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:03:57 +0100
From: John K Masters <johnmasters@oxtedonline.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Any suggestions on good CLI newsreaders?

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On 17:39 Mon 06 Aug     , Amit Uttamchandani wrote:

> John Hasler <jhasler <at> debian.org> writes:
>
> >
> > Amit writes:
> > > Any of you use newsreaders from the commandline.
> >
> > I doubt anyone uses a command-line newsreader but many use text-only
> > newsreaders such as slrn and trn. I use gnus, which can be either
> > text-only on a console or GUI in X.
> >
> > > I'm using an old laptop with debian and I read a lot of news everyday and
> > > loading the websites seems such a pain and slow process.
> >
> > What do Web sites have to do with news?
>
> News websites such as cnn, news.com, nytimes, etc. They have too many graphics
> and ads which are not necessary. I guess I'm just looking for a more efficient
> may to read the news.
>
>

links2 - no fuss

Can we help you?

Regards, John

-- 
War is God's way of teaching Americans geography
Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914)

Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:02:43 -0400 From: mmiller3 <mmiller3@iupui.edu> To: Amit Uttamchandani <amit.uttam@gmail.com> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any suggestions on good CLI newsreaders? Message-ID: <87hcnctubg.fsf@lumen.indyrad.iupui.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>> "Amit" == Amit Uttamchandani <amit.uttam@gmail.com> writes:
> John Hasler <jhasler <at> debian.org> writes: >> What do Web sites have to do with news? > News websites such as cnn, news.com, nytimes, etc. They > have too many graphics and ads which are not necessary. I > guess I'm just looking for a more efficient may to read the > news. That's a different beast - by asking for a newsreader, you got recommendations for usenet newsreaders... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsreader http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_client Mike

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:04:37 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Opinions XFS Message-ID: <20070806180437.GC9644@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:55:28AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Aug 4, 2007, at 2:42 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >I'd have to modify that. Instead of NIH, my worry is that since XFS
> >was designed for a different kernel, it's been "shimmed" into Linux
> >and so doesn't integrate as well as ext2/3 and ReiserFS. Same
> >concern with jfs.
>
> I suppose that's a valid concern, but in the absence of any evidence
> of problems caused by it I can't say I'm going to lose any sleep. :)
>
Given that SGI boxes now use Linux and have dropped Irix but still use XFS, I think it pretty likely that they have done a good job of ensuring that Linux's XFS is up to snuff. IBM started JFS version 1 with AIX, then ported it to OS/2 and added features to make it version 2, then ported it back to AIX where it is the standard FS. They got Linux working on their newer Power servers to meet customer demand and ported JFS to linux so that they had a common filesystem irrespective of OS. In both cases, the porting was done or directed by the origionator of the filesystem for reasons that impact their bottom line. To some extent their reputations are on the line with their filesystems. As they are right now, I would trust them both equally well. They each have their stronger points that make one more suitable than the other for certain uses of the filesystem. Doug.

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:05:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> To: Sam <transiency@transiency.org> Cc: List Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Hard disk dying? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708061405130.12896@p34.internal.lan> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed No, smart short and long tests are safe, most people run them daily and weekly without ever unmounting for long periods of time. Justin. On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Sam wrote:
> Justin,
> Should I unmount the drive before doing the tests?
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
> On 8/6/07, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Sam wrote:
>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Justin, here is the output from smartctl -a /dev/hda
>>>
>>> smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce
>> Allen
>>> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> Your disk looks OK to me, I have seen Device Status Error in the past as
>> well but never suffered any ill effects.
>>
>> Some other things to try:
>>
>> smartctl -t short /dev/hda # wait 5min
>> smartclt -l selftest /dev/hda
>>
>> smartctl -t long /dev/hda # wait 6-120 min
>> smartclt -l selftest /dev/hda
>>
>> and/then show smartctl -a output again
>> if all the tests pass, your disk should be OK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:07:06 -0700 From: Sam <transiency@transiency.org> To: "Justin Piszcz" <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> Cc: "List Debian User" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Hard disk dying? Message-ID: <fb41b4360708061107h62b43d1dp63c606f3fc3c431f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_107801_11970275.1186423626323" ------=_Part_107801_11970275.1186423626323 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cool, thanks for the information Justin. Hopefully all turns out well. On 8/6/07, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> wrote:
>
> No, smart short and long tests are safe, most people run them daily and
> weekly without ever unmounting for long periods of time.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Sam wrote:
>
> > Justin,
> > Should I unmount the drive before doing the tests?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sam
> >
> > On 8/6/07, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Sam wrote:
> >>
> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >>> Hash: SHA1
> >>>
> >>> Justin, here is the output from smartctl -a /dev/hda
> >>>
> >>> smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce
> >> Allen
> >>> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> >>
> >> Your disk looks OK to me, I have seen Device Status Error in the past
> as
> >> well but never suffered any ill effects.
> >>
> >> Some other things to try:
> >>
> >> smartctl -t short /dev/hda # wait 5min
> >> smartclt -l selftest /dev/hda
> >>
> >> smartctl -t long /dev/hda # wait 6-120 min
> >> smartclt -l selftest /dev/hda
> >>
> >> and/then show smartctl -a output again
> >> if all the tests pass, your disk should be OK
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 18:09:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Amit Uttamchandani <amit.uttam@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any suggestions on good CLI newsreaders? Message-ID: <loom.20070806T200838-5@post.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> That's a different beast - by asking for a newsreader, you got
> recommendations for usenet newsreaders...
You are right. I actually meant RSS newsreaders. Thank you for clearing it up. Amit

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:10:02 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Hard disk dying? Message-ID: <20070806181002.GD9644@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 10:59:13AM -0700, Sam wrote:
> Justin,
> Should I unmount the drive before doing the tests?
>
No need. The tests happen at the drive level, below the level of the filesystem. When you run the test, it should tell you how long to wait before you query the drive to get the result. Doug.

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:11:22 -0700 From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: List Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: DNS problem on local network Message-Id: <CAD7DEDD-8939-4A87-90E0-46B86DE8E4FE@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Aug 6, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Adam Hardy wrote:
>> Please send us your /etc/hosts file. Every box needs a minimal
>> /etc/hosts file with at least its own hostname (though I'v never used
>> DHCP). The box running dnsmasq should have all the hosts on your
>> network listed in /etc/hosts for dnsmasq to read.
>
> adam@gondor:~$ cat /etc/hosts
> 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain
>
> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
>
> So I should put gondor in there on the same line as the localhost?
>
> And on the dnsmasq box it's the same. I can enter the IP address of
> the box's NIC on the internal network into /etc/hosts because it's
> fixed, but all the DHCP clients?
If the machine has a fixed IP, you want that on the /etc/hosts line for its name, generally speaking. Putting it on the same line as 127.0.0.1 can confuse some software. So if you have a machine named foo.bar.net with an IP of 192.168.127.50, the /etc/hosts entry would look like this: 192.168.127.50 foo.bar.net foo This associates the names "foo.bar.net" and "foo" with that IP. I'm not entirely clear on what you're trying to do, but dnsmasq can probably serve DNS records for your DHCP clients if you configure it properly. If you explain a little more what you're trying to do and what's not working I might be able to help more.

Can't find what you're looking for?

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:29:14 +0300 From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ntfs mount errors Message-ID: <20070806182914.GA4465@think.homenet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:52:17AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Aug 3, 2007, at 9:37 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>> I also read that if you mount
>>> windows xp as vfat you can write to it. Even more sceptical.
>>
>> What do you mean by that? You can safely mount fat partitions for a long
>> time now.
>
> Yup, been there, done that, it works fine. It has consequences for the X=
P=20
> side, though -- VFAT doesn't support alternate data streams or file=20
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> only useful if you have multiple users on one machine, though.
>
> Note that you have to install XP from the start on a FAT partition --=20
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=20
> go back without reformatting.
>
> A good alternative I've sometimes used is to create a second, FAT-formatt=
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> partition and use it for stuff I want to access from both operating=20
> systems.
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Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:14:25 +0100 From: graham <graham@theseamans.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: cups yet again Message-ID: <46B76501.80607@theseamans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 05:02:07PM +0100, graham wrote:
>> Yet another cups problem (the one program which makes me feel like I do
>> when running windows - like putting a foot through the computer).
>
> So why run cups? Use LPRng and Apsfilter or foomatic print filters.
>
> Doug.
>
Cos what I'd understood from other threads was that this would mean swimming against the tide, since cups is now the default for both debian and gnome, and because I had understood that lprng was no longer supported. I'm really hoping to spend the minimum of time possible maintaining printers; they don't interest me much ;-) Graham

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:13:57 -0400 From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: DNS problem on local network Message-ID: <20070806181357.GE9644@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 06:50:21PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
> Douglas Allan Tutty on 06/08/07 14:27, wrote:
> >On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 12:39:56PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
> >>I installed dnsmasq to run DNS and DHCP servers on my little home network
> >>of 4 PCs and a couple of laptops, and everything was going fine, internet
> >>browsing, ssh, ftp by IP address etc.
> >>
> >>Now I am trying to get DNS to work for local machines but it won't
> >>co-operate. I spent the last couple of hours pouring over HOWTOs and FAQs
> >>trying to work out the problem but I'm stuck with a few errors messages
> >>which I suspect point to something totally obvious to those in the know.
> >
> >Please send us your /etc/hosts file. Every box needs a minimal
> >/etc/hosts file with at least its own hostname (though I'v never used
> >DHCP). The box running dnsmasq should have all the hosts on your
> >network listed in /etc/hosts for dnsmasq to read.
>
> adam@gondor:~$ cat /etc/hosts
> 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain
>
> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
>
> So I should put gondor in there on the same line as the localhost?
>
> And on the dnsmasq box it's the same. I can enter the IP address of the
> box's NIC on the internal network into /etc/hosts because it's fixed, but
> all the DHCP clients?
>
You should only have to put your hosts in the /etc/hosts file on the dnsmasq box. No, you should not touch the 127.0.0.1 line. They should go on their own line, one per IP. I don't know about the DHCP clients. Doug.

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:18:32 -0400 From: Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Virtual Networking Interface Problem Message-Id: <200708061418.32788.hal@thresholddigital.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 06 August 2007, Anson Gardner wrote:
> On Monday 06 August 2007 12:12, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > I've been working on a project with some Linksys routers. New
> > routers are set to use the IP address 192.168.1.1 and my network
> > uses the 172.16.*.* address space. I've had this in my
> > workstation's /etc/network/interfaces file:
> >
> > auto eth0
> > iface eth0 inet static
> > address 172.16.7.11
> > netmask 255.255.255.0
> > gateway 172.16.7.1
> >
> > To access the Linksys routers when I first get them, I added this:
> >
> > auto eth0:0
> > iface eth0:0 inet static
> > address 192.168.1.128
> > netmask 255.255.255.0
> > gateway 172.16.7.1
> >
> > Then I restarted my network and I have eth0:0 with the address
> > 192.168.1.128. Using route gives this (edited for space):
> >
> > Kernel IP routing table
> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref
> > Use Iface
> > 172.16.7.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0
> > eth0 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0
> > 0 eth0 link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0
> > 0 eth0 default fw.loc.lan 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0
> > 0 eth0 default fw.loc.lan 0.0.0.0 UG 0
> > 0 0 eth0
> >
> > (fw.loc.lan is the firewall between my LAN and the Internet.)
> >
> > I don't see any reference to eht0:0 at all. I don't know if that
> > matters.
> >
> > After restarting my network, I can't reach anything on the
> > Internet.
> >
> > Does it matter that route doesn't seem to see a difference between
> > eth0 and eth0:0?
> >
> > What do I need to do to be able to do this and not lose access to
> > domains on the other side of my gateway? Why does it change
> > routing so my computer doesn't work through the regular gateway
> > I've set?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Hal
>
> You don't need to specify the gateway for eth0:0.
Okay, took it out and it works just fine without it. I had this working before, but couldn't remember the settings. I knew it was something simple. I had other suggestions in private email from well meaning people, but they were a lot of work. I wasn't about to go through and change my entire network to a different range just for the 5 minutes it takes to log in to the router so I can change its address. Even though I had searched and not found the answer, I was sure it was only a minute or two of work if I knew what to do.
> I also needed to configure devices that had distinct ip address
> values by default. I had a similar setup until recently when I
> switched to using ip syntax instead of the 'old way.' Here's a sample
> of my interfaces file:
>
> address 123.456.789.2
> netmask 255.255.255.252
> gateway 123.456.789.1
> up ip addr add 10.1.250.15/24 brd 10.1.250.255 dev eth0 label eth0:0
> up ip addr add 10.10.10.15/24 brd 10.10.10.255 dev eth0 label eth0:1
>
> aptitude install iproute
> man ip
> See if something like that will work for you.
I will be looking into that, but it'll be later in the week before I have time to try it. Thanks! Hal

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:19:34 -0400 From: Curt Howland <Howland@priss.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Missing /dev/raw1394 Message-Id: <200708061419.34549.Howland@priss.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 06 August 2007, Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> was heard to say:
> > The plot thickens! What else can I look for?
>
> I have these configs for my custom 2.6.22 kernel (compiled from the
> standard Debian sources):
And indeed, after filing a wish-list for having those modules compiled into the binary kernel again, I have the following reply from the Debian kernel folks: "no they are the old firwire stack, that has been disabled due to security concern and general distrust." So, until further notice or whatever, anyone who wants to use dvgrab has to compile their own kernel. Ju no se pas. Curt- - -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBRrdmNi9Y35yItIgBAQJJQQf9HNkbeJt5kVpGN7wVW35GErhBpxxt0dgF 8xT7h/8Tp+Dn49Ul6VQFB66lQw9x+3biTdkDAmLIGki5/Dle8DMYSf3Yj9BYmAHM nDKpE3fvjBbG4EcaY9fYwDNw+Ip67yOEvaAwl5pM/TWuuppFoiZ8yo5mirt4qPw4 0XWKTFkVnl00Q4owRNG2RfsF4iZvdsFL4tZR/+JdbkONY73pN9qiMpIsVLKJWOK5 /56MGDrlYRC7JtX7AidDkprDfu5ASJ/9qVlhqrm7wblBWhJBlee9+nPKt0ItA2wC Ao5Pl4i26wj/Br/BJo7Xl7sgn0BP7EyTBRpvyHp9SDGLLtcuulAUag== =axRF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2111 ************************************************** Received on Mon Aug 6 14:46:51 2007

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