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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2115

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Public PC                         [ Mike McCarty  ]
  Re: Opinions XFS                      [ Justin Piszcz  ]
  Re: How to disable ipv6 tunneling     [ Andrei Popescu  ]
  Re: login via GDM don't get desktop   [ Hugo Vanwoerkom 
  Re: Any suggestions on good CLI news  [ Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld. ]
  SOLVED: Re: using ssl on part of a w  [ Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwe ]



Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:24:15 -0500


From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Debian.Org HELP" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Public PC

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Dave Walker wrote:

> I hope to place a PC running Etch in our small (tiny, actually)
> airport building for use by pilots. The PC will be used to access
> perhaps 10 web sites (plus or minus) over a DSL connection and to run
> a few utilities to show GMT and a calculator and maybe a few
> additional applications. The box will also serve as a real-time data
> collection platform and web server for a local weather observing
> system, so I want to prevent it from being re-booted.

Don't do this. The server and the web browser need to be separate
machines. The "accessible" machine could be one using a LiveCD
you specially spin with limited apps on it, and which auto boots
into a browser. DSL (Damn Small Linux) should be adaptable to this.
It uses a "busy box" style display manager with limited apps loaded
up.



Critical apps are incompatible with users fooling around with
stuff.


Do you need help?X

Mike

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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 07:45:44 +1000
From: Alex Samad <alex@samad.com.au>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Hard disk dying?
Message-ID: <20070806214544.GD4666@samad.com.au>
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On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 01:56:41PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Sam wrote:
>
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>>
>> Justin, here is the output from smartctl -a /dev/hda
>>
>> smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce All=

en

>> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
>
> Your disk looks OK to me, I have seen Device Status Error in the past as=

=20

> well but never suffered any ill effects.

I had a drive I just replaced because it kept crashing my machine - had the=
=20
exact same errors (the error list at the bottom of the report).  I failed o=
n=20
resync of the raid set it was part off, I ran it for about 3 weeks, before =
this=20
started to happen.


>
> Some other things to try:
>
> smartctl -t short /dev/hda # wait 5min
> smartclt -l selftest /dev/hda
>
> smartctl -t long /dev/hda  # wait 6-120 min
> smartclt -l selftest /dev/hda
>
> and/then show smartctl -a output again
> if all the tests pass, your disk should be OK
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 17:32:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>
To: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Opinions XFS
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:


> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 04:29:43PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:55:28AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
>>>> On Aug 4, 2007, at 2:42 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>>> I'd have to modify that.  Instead of NIH, my worry is that since XFS
>>>>> was designed for a different kernel, it's been "shimmed" into Linux
>>>>> and so doesn't integrate as well as ext2/3 and ReiserFS.  Same
>>>>> concern with jfs.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose that's a valid concern, but in the absence of any evidence
>>>> of problems caused by it I can't say I'm going to lose any sleep. :)
>>>
>>> Given that SGI boxes now use Linux and have dropped Irix but still use
>>> XFS, I think it pretty likely that they have done a good job of ensuring
>>> that Linux's XFS is up to snuff.
>>>
>>> IBM started JFS version 1 with AIX, then ported it to OS/2 and added
>>> features to make it version 2, then ported it back to AIX where it is
>>> the standard FS.  They got Linux working on their newer Power servers to
>>> meet customer demand and ported JFS to linux so that they had a common
>>> filesystem irrespective of OS.
>>>
>>> In both cases, the porting was done or directed by the origionator of the
>>> filesystem for reasons that impact their bottom line.  To some extent
>>> their reputations are on the line with their filesystems.  As they are
>>> right now, I would trust them both equally well.  They each have their
>>> stronger points that make one more suitable than the other for certain
>>> uses of the filesystem.
>>>
>>
>> I would too, until I found out JFS has no maintainer.
>>
>
> Yikes.  The jfsutils copyright and README.Debian are internally dated in
> 2001 as if they are old packages.  However, the changelog.Debian.gz and
> changelog.gz are June, 2006. xfsprogs have more recent changes.  Stefan
> Hornburg is listed as "responsible for this Debian package".
>
> What exactly do you mean that JFS has no maintainer.


It has a maintainer, but he cannot work on it full-time:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:11:06 -0500
From: Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
      xfs@oss.sgi.com, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bonnie++ benchmarks for ext2,ext3,ext4,jfs,reiserfs,xfs,
      zfs on software raid 5

On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 10:29 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote:


> Overall JFS seems the fastest but reviewing the mailing list for JFS it
> seems like there a lot of problems, especially when people who use JFS > 

1

> year, their speed goes to 5 MiB/s over time and the defragfs tool has 

been

> removed(?) from the source/Makefile and on Google it says not to use it
> due to corruption.


The defragfs tool was an unported holdover from OS/2, which is why it
was removed.  There never was a working Linux version.  I have some
ideas to improve jfs allocation to avoid fragmentation problems, but jfs
isn't my full-time job anymore, so I can't promise anything.  I'm not
sure about the corruption claims.  I'd like to hear some specifics on
that.

Anyway, for enterprise use, I couldn't recommend jfs, since there is no
full-time maintainer.

Thanks,
Shaggy
--
David Kleikamp
IBM Linux Technology Center



Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 00:49:33 +0300
From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian can't mount Camera Memory Stick
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On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 03:58:52PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:

> Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 02:02:09PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
>>> Well, I tried plugging the Dazzle directly into another USB
>>> port, and it mounts just fine. So, why can't the stick mount
>>> through the hub? The "real" disc mounts fine.
>> Are there any options you can pass to the relevant module? Otherwise I=

=20

>> think it's a bug in the module (though I'm far from being an expert).
>
> "The relevant module"? Sorry, I don't know how to answer your question.


I mean some usb kernel module. The 'usbcore' module seems to have some=20
options for device initialization (modinfo usbcore).

Regards,
Andrei
--=20
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)

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Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:49:59 -0400
From: Ralph Katz <ralph.katz@rcn.com>
To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Capture of video stream..
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On 08/06/2007 03:13 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 08/06/07 13:53, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote:
>> I want to capture streamed video from a youtube
>> link. I think that it can be done using mplayer
>> but can't find the exact invocation..
> 
>> Can the same trick be used to capture streamed
>> audio too?
> 
>> Thanks in advance.
> 
> No need to capture a stream.
> 
> Search apt-cache for youtube and you'll find your answer.
> 


Also, in many cases, with flashplayer playing or pausing the video,
notice the filename in /tmp beginning with Flash.  mplayer can play that
file with its full screen mode, speed controls, etc.  This won't work
for all flash files, and be sure to mv or cp the /tmp/Flash file BEFORE
you close flashplayer.

Regards,
Ralph Katz



Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 00:54:19 +0300
From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to disable ipv6 tunneling
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On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 07:43:25AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 04:57:30PM +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
> > I run Etch and at every boot, as message on the screen states, it
> > activates some "ipv6 over ipv4 tunneling driver" and it lasts several
> > seconds. I don't need ipv6. How can it be disabled?
> >=20
>=20
> in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases look for this line
> alias net-pf-10 ipv6
>=20
> set it to=20
>=20
> alias net-pf-10 off


IMHO it is cleaner if you create a file /etc/modprobe.d/00local file=20
with all local customizations.

Regards,
Andrei
P.S. I hate being asked about config changes on package upgrades
--=20
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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:44:07 +0100
From: "Adam Gray" <adam@bandstand.org.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Mislaid disk space
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I have a 40Gb external LaCie USB hard drive, which until recently used
to contain all my data. I have now bought a 300gb internal drive to
move everything onto. But having moved some of the stuff over, for
various reasons I have now mucked up my debian install and want to
start afresh.

But, for some reason when I deleted my iTunes music library off the external
drive, it doesn't seem to quite have gone properly... weirdly the
drive still shows as full when running `df` but from my windows
installation (on a different HD) it shows as having 16G free space...?
The iTunes dir is no longer being listed on the drive, but it still
seems to be taking up space.

Which is inconvenient as I now have a large tar archive of my home
directory (containing the music) which I can't back up to reinstall
the OS. So any ideas on what's going on here and if/how I can reclaim
this free space, preferably without reformatting the drive (it still
has quite a bit of important stuff on).


Thanks!

P.S. df has this to say:
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb1             250M   88M  149M  38% /
tmpfs                 252M     0  252M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hdb9             220G   29G  181G  14% /home
/dev/hdb8             361M   69M  273M  20% /tmp
/dev/hdb5             4.6G  2.8G  1.6G  64% /usr
/dev/hdb6             2.8G  1.1G  1.6G  40% /var
/dev/sda1              38G   36G  1.6G  96% /media/sda1
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        -- Jan Buttinger



Date:  Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:55:36 -0500
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: login via GDM don't get desktop
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Bob Middaugh wrote:

> Hi,
> I just installed the latest version.  When I login via GDM, I just see the cursor and the background.  I never get a "full" desktop.  I installed from the minimal CD.  Any ideas?
> 


I get that with fvwm when I have 'ModulePath' in its .fvwm2rc config 
file pointing to the wrong place.

No doubt that's not your problem.

Did you install the windowmanager correctly?

Hugo


Do you need more help?X

Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:49:54 -0500
From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net>
To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Capture of video stream..
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On 08/06/2007 01:53 PM, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote:

> 
> I want to capture streamed video from a youtube
> link. I think that it can be done using mplayer
> but can't find the exact invocation..
> 
> Can the same trick be used to capture streamed
> audio too?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> -ishwar
> 
> 


Maybe the '-dumpstream' option to mplayer can capture such streams.

If you're using the Firefox web browser, the "Fast Video Download" 
extension can make downloading Youtube videos easy.



Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:03:19 -0500
From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net>
To: List Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Debian can't mount Camera Memory Stick
Message-ID: <46B79AA7.9040801@sbcglobal.net>
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David Brodbeck wrote:

> 
> On Aug 6, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Mike McCarty wrote:
> 
>> If by "powered hub" you mean "it has its own separate power
>> supply", then no. Otherwise, I don't know what you mean. It
>> draws power from the USB. The WD disc is powered through it.
> 
> 
> Right, a powered hub has its own power supply.  Some devices don't  work 
> right on un-powered ones.  Also, plugging too many items into an  
> un-powered hub can overload the USB port on the host, especially  
> power-hungry devices like hard disks.


I tried this with no devices plugged in but the Dazzle, and it
didn't work. I'm pretty sure that just a memory stick isn't
loading the USB power too much :-)

Mike
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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 17:13:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
To: John K Masters <johnmasters@oxtedonline.net>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Any suggestions on good CLI newsreaders?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0708061713190.9921@freire2.furyyjbeyq.arg>
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Ah, that kind of news!  apt-get snownews then.



On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, John K Masters wrote:


> On 17:39 Mon 06 Aug     , Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
>> John Hasler <jhasler <at> debian.org> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> Amit writes:
>>>> Any of you use newsreaders from the commandline.
>>>
>>> I doubt anyone uses a command-line newsreader but many use text-only
>>> newsreaders such as slrn and trn.  I use gnus, which can be either
>>> text-only on a console or GUI in X.
>>>
>>>> I'm using an old laptop with debian and I read a lot of news everyday and
>>>> loading the websites seems such a pain and slow process.
>>>
>>> What do Web sites have to do with news?
>>
>> News websites such as cnn, news.com, nytimes, etc. They have too many graphics
>> and ads which are not necessary. I guess I'm just looking for a more efficient
>> may to read the news.
>>
>>
>
> links2 - no fuss
>
> Regards, John
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> Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914)
>
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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:31:47 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: using ssl on part of a website
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On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 04:12:48PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote:

>
>
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 01:08:43PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>  =20
>>> Hi guys, I'm having real trouble figuring out how to do this.=20
>>> I've got a wiki running ikiwiki and I'd like to get the log-in/editing
>>> portion out of clear text. the obvious thing seems to be to use SSL,
>>> but I don't want to ssl the whole site, just the part accessed through
>>> the cgi scripts that take logins and edit stuff. Can someone give me
>>> some pointers?    =20
>>
>> I've also used, with success, mod_auth_digest, which I believe gets me
>> secure access to the cgi-bin/ but does not actually log me in to
>> ikiwiki so that changelogs only show an ip address, not a user. bleh.
>>
>> somewhere there is some magic incantation to get me secured when
>> accessing the cgi scripts and open otherwise.
>>
>> A
>>  =20
>
> There is a pretty good newbie walk through at the ubuntu forum:=20
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D4466


<shudder> wading through those can be tough, but it got me some useful
information. mostly that my rewrite looks to be proper, and in fact it
does work to a point.=20

Once i navigate to the cgi script, it redirects to
https://site.org/ikiwiki.cgi...., and presents me with the login
screen, but after entering correct information and clicking "login" it
returns an error page 'Error: "do" parameter missing' so something is
lost in the translation there...

more research...

A

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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:16:03 +0200
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_B=E4chler?= <linux@boeser.ch>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Recommended Router Hardware
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>>> Well - it isn't that old. It is a Compaq Desktop EN, Pentium III with about 
>>> > > 500MB RAM. But there is only one Ethernet-Connection which - I guess - can 
>>> > > be solved by using a Hub or Switch, isn't it?
>> > 
>> > no. to use a desktop machine as a router, you need two network
>> > connections: one for the local network to attach to and one for the
>> > internet at large. The computer then routes packets appropriately and
> 
> I've read somewhere that it can be done with one card, but it's very 
> difficult to setup. Did you mean Deskpro EN? I've used one of those for 
> the very same purpose with Coyote Linux (also runs from a floppy). But I 
> put a cheapo Realtek based in one of the PCI slots (there are two if I'm 
> not mistaken). It's own card is on-board.


You are right - it is a Deskpro EN.



Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 18:19:31 -0400
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Opinions XFS
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On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 05:32:11PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> >What exactly do you mean that JFS has no maintainer.
> 
> It has a maintainer, but he cannot work on it full-time:
> 
> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:11:06 -0500
> From: Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

> Anyway, for enterprise use, I couldn't recommend jfs, since there is no
> full-time maintainer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Shaggy
> --
> David Kleikamp
> IBM Linux Technology Center
> 


Wow.  IBM telling you that they don't recommend jfs for enterprise use.
Now why is it still in debian stable without a warning?  

Perhaps I've been naive, but I expect that packages in debian main
stable to be solid and reliable, especially for system-level packages
(like filesystems), and less-so for inherently unstable things like web
browsers (since they have to keep pace with web features, the feature
set isn't stable enough for reliability).  

If the maintainer can't recommend it for enterprise use, that should be
a release-critical bug in and of itself that prevents it from getting
into stable.

Thanks for the heads-up.  I'll probably switch to XFS for my next build.

Doug.



Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 17:23:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
To: John K Masters <johnmasters@oxtedonline.net>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Any suggestions on good CLI newsreaders?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0708061722370.9921@freire2.furyyjbeyq.arg>
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safari has rss capabilities already built in.



Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 17:25:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
To: Amit Uttamchandani <amit.uttam@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Any suggestions on good CLI newsreaders?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0708061724480.9921@freire2.furyyjbeyq.arg>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

snownews is a cli rss reader and I use it.  Maybe I'm the only one to do 
so, since I haven't yet got orca talking in Debian but there it is.



On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:


> John Hasler <jhasler <at> debian.org> writes:
>
>>
>> Amit writes:
>>> Any of you use newsreaders from the commandline.
>>
>> I doubt anyone uses a command-line newsreader but many use text-only
>> newsreaders such as slrn and trn.  I use gnus, which can be either
>> text-only on a console or GUI in X.
>>
>>> I'm using an old laptop with debian and I read a lot of news everyday and
>>> loading the websites seems such a pain and slow process.
>>
>> What do Web sites have to do with news?
>
> News websites such as cnn, news.com, nytimes, etc. They have too many graphics
> and ads which are not necessary. I guess I'm just looking for a more efficient
> may to read the news.
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:41:52 -0700
From: Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: SOLVED: Re: using ssl on part of a website
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On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 03:31:47PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 04:12:48PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote:
> >
> >
> > Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 01:08:43PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >>  =20
> >>> Hi guys, I'm having real trouble figuring out how to do this.=20
> >>> I've got a wiki running ikiwiki and I'd like to get the log-in/editing
> >>> portion out of clear text. the obvious thing seems to be to use SSL,
> >>> but I don't want to ssl the whole site, just the part accessed through
> >>> the cgi scripts that take logins and edit stuff. Can someone give me
> >>> some pointers?    =20
> >
> > There is a pretty good newbie walk through at the ubuntu forum:=20
> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D4466
>=20
> <shudder> wading through those can be tough, but it got me some useful
> information. mostly that my rewrite looks to be proper, and in fact it
> does work to a point.=20
>=20
> Once i navigate to the cgi script, it redirects to
> https://site.org/ikiwiki.cgi...., and presents me with the login
> screen, but after entering correct information and clicking "login" it
> returns an error page 'Error: "do" parameter missing' so something is
> lost in the translation there...
>=20


problem restated: ikiwiki includes a login system, but that puts
passwords in clear text. This is a problem when on public networks,
especially wireless.

solution: don't mess with mod-rewrite or anything like that. create
two stanzas in your httpd.conf by whatever method you use. 1) stanza

<VirtualHost *:80>...

and one

<VirtualHost *:443>...

set up the cgi stuff in the second stanza.=20

then reconfigure the ikiwiki.setup file:=20

url =3D> "http://example.com/path/to/wiki"
cgiurl =3D> "https://example.com/path/to/wiki/ikiwiki.cgi"

reubild the wiki and you're done.

that looks to me to be the best way to use SSL with ikiwiki.

A

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