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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2118

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2118

Today's Topics:

  Re: replacement for apt-listchanges?  [ Vincent Lefevre  ]
  Re: replacement for apt-listchanges?  [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: How to force update second DNS s  [ david robert  ]
  Re: replacement for apt-listchanges?  [ Vincent Lefevre  ]
  Re: cups yet again                    [ Florian Kulzer  ]
  libc6 with support for old kernels [ "Ph. Marek" <philipp@marek.priv.at> ]

Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:57:23 +0200
From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: replacement for apt-listchanges?

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On 2007-08-06 20:05:44 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> Can you describe the breakage? I've found that packages that rely on
> python for a GUI break (GUI freezes), I've always blamed it on the GUI.
> Base python itself I've never had break.

Here are some of them I've recorded:

In May (this one was under Mac OS X), the python upgrade (2.4.3 -> 2.4.4) broken Mercurial:
ImportError: No module named _locale

Do you need help?X

In April, the upgrade of python2.4-minimal failed during configuration (and apt-get install -f didn't solve the problem).

In June 2006, fail2ban dies with "unknown locale" error (the problem occurred with python2.3 and later versions, but not with python2.2). The fix was the following:

0.7. branch of fail2ban within testing/unstable has substantially different handling of dates, and doesn't rely on python's locale anymore which remains to be prone to this bug (see #369689 reassigned from fail2ban long ago).

In February 2006, messages forwarded by Forte Agent got corrupted by getmail. The bug has never been identified (the author of getmail couldn't reproduce it with my testcase), but it is thought to come from some python version.

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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:09:04 +0200
From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: replacement for apt-listchanges?

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On 2007-08-07 01:10:51 +0000, s. keeling wrote:
> You should not be running unstable. This is what stable, and Debian
> itself, were created for. Sorry, no sympathy from here.

Do you need more help?X

Stable is outdated, doesn't run on recent hardware and is more buggy than unstable (because bugs remain unfixed, except some critical bugs like security bugs). In particular, it still doesn't have emacs22 (emacs21 crashes quite often[*] and utf-8 copy-paste doesn't work).

[*] Bugs 133937/220986. When I switched to emacs22, all the crashes disappeared.

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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:12:11 +0200
From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: replacement for apt-listchanges?

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On 2007-08-06 18:48:58 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 07:40:08PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 08/06/07 18:42, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > This is based on personal experience. Unfortunately I haven't kept
> > > statistics, but I'd say, taking into account the serious bugs that
> > > directly affected the use of my machines and those I could avoid
> > > (e.g. thanks to apt-listbugs), this should be about 4 per year. Thi=
s
> > > may seem low, but this is much more than what I get with the other
> > > base packages (libc6, perl, xorg...).
> >=20
> > You *know* the answer you're going to receive.
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> i think s.keeling already did it...=20

I've said that there were (almost) no problems with other packages. As far as I'm concerned, the problem is mainly python, and I won't switch to stable (where I'll get other problems) just because of python.

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Can we help you?X

Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:22:19 +0100
From: michael <cs@networkingnewsletter.org.uk> To: Tong Sun <mlist4suntong@yahoo.com>
Cc: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>,

        debian-user@lists.debian.org, markn@greenwoodsoftware.com Subject: Re: less, exit but left content on screen

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On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 11:53 -0400, Tong Sun wrote:
> Package: less
> Version: 394-4
> Severity: wishlist
>
> I remember that I used to be able to exit 'less' by command key 'x' or
> something so that the content just viewed is left on screen, instead of
> being cleared and restored to the screen before invoking 'less'. But I
> found there is no such capability in current less (version 394). Or
> is there?
>
> I am not sure whether my memory is correct or not, but I think such
> capability, leaving the just viewed content on screen, is desirable in
> certain circumstances. I hope such capability be implemented/put back
> into less.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tong

less -X file

works as expected for me (ie leaves content on the screen); you can also set LESS env var appropriately.

Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 06:56:31 -0400
From: "Manaen Schlabach" <manaen.schlabach@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bzflag Segfaults

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On 8/4/07, Manaen Schlabach <manaen.schlabach@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am currently running Debian testing and since doing my daily update
> two days ago am unable to run Bzflag. The program immediately
> Segfaults back to the prompt and occasionally causes gdm to restart as
> well. Is anyone else having this problem?
>
I suppose it's bad form to reply to your own list message but maybe my experiences will help someone else out. I have determined that it isn't just bzflag that has segmentation faults, xmms, and pan are also affected. Does anyone know off the top of their heads what package or packages that were recently upgraded is used by all three of these programs? If this can't be resolved I plan to use apt-pinning to go back to stable and hopefully that will clear up my problems.

Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:06:25 +0100
From: graham <graham@theseamans.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: cups yet again

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Florian Kulzer wrote:

>
> The changelog of the newest Sid version of cupsys gives me the
> impression that there were some problems with the first Debian packages
> of the new upstream cups release (version 1.2.12-1, in Lenny right now).
> Maybe your problem ist just a case of installing at the wrong time. You
> could try if you can install version 1.2.12-2 of cupsys, cupsys-common,
> cupsys-client, and libcupsys2 (from Sid). Using "dpkg --purge
> --force-depends" should allow you to temporarily purge the old packages
> without removing anything else that depends on cups. This should be safe
> if you reinstall the new (or old) packages again immediately. (Famous
> last words...)
>

I'm starting to think it may be a kernel-related problem somehow. I removed cups completely and installed lprng and the foomatic filter. At first this gave me exactly the same problem as I had had with cups: using foomatic-gui to print a test page produces single lines of gibberish per page.

I then rebooted again. Now I am unable to get a test page to produce anything at all. When I do lpq -P lp0 I get:

graham@dogmatix:~$ lpq -Plp0
Printer: lp0@dogmatix 'HL5040'
  Queue: 1 printable job
  Server: pid 3708 active
  Unspooler: pid 3709 active
  Status: cannot open '/dev/lp0' - 'No such file or directory', attempt 2, sleeping 20 at 12:03:42.777

  Rank   Owner/ID               Pr/Class Job Files      Size Time
active root@dogmatix+706            A   706 (STDIN)   27719 12:03:32
Confused? Frustrated?X

There is no /dev/lp0. dmesg says:

pnp: the driver 'parport_pc' has been registered pnp: match found with the PnP device '00:0c' and the driver 'parport_pc' parport: PnPBIOS parport detected.
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP ,DMA]
parport0: Printer, Brother HL-5040 series

There are no further references to lp0 or parport0

Googling gives me a few vaguely related symptoms; following one of these I found the suggestion to modprobe ppdev. My kern.log then showed:

  Aug 7 11:51:56 dogmatix kernel: ppdev: user-space parallel port driver

but the symptoms didn't change.

My printcap is:

lp0|HL5040: \

:lp=/dev/lp0: \
:force_localhost: \
:if=/usr/bin/foomatic-rip: \
:ppd=/usr/local/ppd/Brother-HL-5040-hl1250.ppd: \
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp: \
:mx#0:sh:
Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 06:14:17 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: replacement for apt-listchanges?

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On 08/07/07 04:57, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2007-08-06 20:05:44 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

>> Can you describe the breakage?  I've found that packages that rely on
>> python for a GUI break (GUI freezes), I've always blamed it on the GUI.
>> Base python itself I've never had break.

>
> Here are some of them I've recorded:
>
> In May (this one was under Mac OS X), the python upgrade
> (2.4.3 -> 2.4.4) broken Mercurial:
> ImportError: No module named _locale
>
> In April, the upgrade of python2.4-minimal failed during configuration
> (and apt-get install -f didn't solve the problem).
>
> In June 2006, fail2ban dies with "unknown locale" error (the
> problem occurred with python2.3 and later versions, but not
> with python2.2). The fix was the following:
>
> 0.7. branch of fail2ban within testing/unstable has substantially
> different handling of dates, and doesn't rely on python's locale
> anymore which remains to be prone to this bug (see #369689 reassigned
> from fail2ban long ago).
>
> In February 2006, messages forwarded by Forte Agent got corrupted
> by getmail. The bug has never been identified (the author of getmail
> couldn't reproduce it with my testcase), but it is thought to come
> from some python version.

Two responses:

  1. That's not many breakages. (And one of them is OSX!!!)
  2. I see application bugs. GvR announces when they're making changes that will break things.
    • -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:20:16 +0100 (BST) From: david robert <davidforlinux@yahoo.co.uk> To: x3n <x3n@molinier.eu>
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Subject: Re: How to force update second DNS server

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thanks for your help

x3n <x3n@molinier.eu> wrote: Hi,

Normally your secondary NS should synchronize by itself after a=20 certain amount of time. The problem for the slave NS is to know about=20 changes. In your primary NS, you can add the "notify yes" command in=20 the zone declaration, so that salve NS (declared in the zone file!)=20 are notified about changes.
If your slave NS is not declared in the SOA of your zone, you can use=20 the "also-notify x.x.x.x" parameter.

After doing this, the secondary should synchronise as soon as the=20 master has reload the updated zone. If it's not the case, you should=20 have a careful look to the serial number...

regards,
Lionel

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david robert a =E9crit :

> Hi Guys

>

> I am using bind 9 for my dns server i did some chnages to one of=20
> our customer zone file now i want to force update for my slave dns=20
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>

> Thanks for your help
>
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After doing this, the secon= dary should synchronise as soon as the
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have a careful look to the ser= ial number...


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>
= > I am using bind 9 for my dns server i did some chnages to one of
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> server how do i do this?
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:24:13 +0100 From: "Adam Gray" <adam@bandstand.org.uk> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Mislaid disk space Message-ID: <f0d90c4a0708070424h64a08f2bma1354f00279ec89a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok bizarrely this whole thing has now sorted itself out... this is a problem from a couple of weeks ago and when I checked just now for the du -a output it had 17G free space again. How odd. Bloody computers...! Anyway thanks for suggestios. Adam - Hide quoted text - On 06/08/07, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
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> > I have a 40Gb external LaCie USB hard drive, which until recently used
> > to contain all my data. I have now bought a 300gb internal drive to
> > move everything onto. But having moved some of the stuff over, for
> > various reasons I have now mucked up my debian install and want to
> > start afresh.
> >
> > But, for some reason when I deleted my iTunes music library off the external
> > drive, it doesn't seem to quite have gone properly... weirdly the
> > drive still shows as full when running `df` but from my windows
> > installation (on a different HD) it shows as having 16G free space...?
> > The iTunes dir is no longer being listed on the drive, but it still
> > seems to be taking up space.
> >
> > Which is inconvenient as I now have a large tar archive of my home
> > directory (containing the music) which I can't back up to reinstall
> > the OS. So any ideas on what's going on here and if/how I can reclaim
> > this free space, preferably without reformatting the drive (it still
> > has quite a bit of important stuff on).
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > P.S. df has this to say:
> > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/hdb1 250M 88M 149M 38% /
> > tmpfs 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm
> > /dev/hdb9 220G 29G 181G 14% /home
> > /dev/hdb8 361M 69M 273M 20% /tmp
> > /dev/hdb5 4.6G 2.8G 1.6G 64% /usr
> > /dev/hdb6 2.8G 1.1G 1.6G 40% /var
> > /dev/sda1 38G 36G 1.6G 96% /media/sda1
>
> Which device?
>
> What does "du -a" say?
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:31:07 +0200 From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: replacement for apt-listchanges? Message-ID: <20070807113107.GW14541@prunille.vinc17.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2007-08-07 06:14:17 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Two responses:
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> 1. That's not many breakages.
As I've said, I didn't recorded all of them (you probably can find other ones on the bug pages of python-related packages).
> (And one of them is OSX!!!)
Yes, I wanted to point out that problems are not specific to Debian, but to the python language.
> 2. I see application bugs.
All of them are problems that come from python.
> GvR announces when they're making
> changes that will break things.
This does not concern the end user. If developers are not capable of tracking things that break in python, then python is probably not the right language for them; they should rather choose a stable language. --=20 Vincent Lef=E8vre <vincent(at)vinc17.org> - Web: <http://www.vinc17.org/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <http://www.vinc17.org/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)

Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 07:47:46 -0400 From: Strake <strake888@gmail.com> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Partitions not mounting Message-ID: <ab87a3bf0708070447g2da639e4ib872ccaaf38a9950@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_56121_4278292.1186487266064" ------=_Part_56121_4278292.1186487266064 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have recently installed Debian Etch on a computer. It now boots, but the filesystems /usr, /opt, /home, /var and /tmp are not mounting, and when I attempt to mount them manually, mount complains that the file /dev/mapper/vg1-<fsname> is missing. The /dev/mapper directory contains only the file control. vg1 is the name of my volume group, and /usr, /var, /tmp, /home and /opt were all set up (from the installer's partitioning step) to be logical volumes. The root and boot filesystems and swap are md raid 1 devices comprised of identical partitions on my two hard drives. The sole LVM physical volume is a dm-crypted fourth md of another partition on the same two hard drives. Help is appreciated. ------=_Part_56121_4278292.1186487266064 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have recently installed Debian Etch on a computer. It now boots, but the filesystems /usr, /opt, /home, /var and /tmp are not mounting, and when I attempt to mount them manually, mount complains that the file /dev/mapper/vg1-&lt;fsname&gt; is missing. The /dev/mapper directory contains only the file control. vg1 is the name of my volume group, and /usr, /var, /tmp, /home and /opt were all set up (from the installer&#39;s partitioning step) to be logical volumes. The root and boot filesystems and swap are md raid 1 devices comprised of identical partitions on my two hard drives. The sole LVM physical volume is a dm-crypted fourth md of another partition on the same two hard drives. Help is appreciated. <br><br><br> ------=_Part_56121_4278292.1186487266064--

Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:00:13 +0200 From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: cups yet again Message-ID: <20070807120013.GA23274@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 12:06:25 +0100, graham wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >> The changelog of the newest Sid version of cupsys gives me the >> impression that there were some problems with the first Debian packages >> of the new upstream cups release (version 1.2.12-1, in Lenny right now). >> Maybe your problem ist just a case of installing at the wrong time. You >> could try if you can install version 1.2.12-2 of cupsys, cupsys-common, >> cupsys-client, and libcupsys2 (from Sid). Using "dpkg --purge >> --force-depends" should allow you to temporarily purge the old packages >> without removing anything else that depends on cups. This should be safe >> if you reinstall the new (or old) packages again immediately. (Famous >> last words...) >
> I'm starting to think it may be a kernel-related problem somehow. I removed
> cups completely and installed lprng and the foomatic filter. At first this
> gave me exactly the same problem as I had had with cups: using foomatic-gui
> to print a test page produces single lines of gibberish per page.
Then it might be a problem with foomatic-gui. I cannot say anything more specific since I have never used foomatic-gui.
> I then rebooted again. Now I am unable to get a test page to produce
> anything at all. When I do lpq -P lp0 I get:
>
> graham@dogmatix:~$ lpq -Plp0
> Printer: lp0@dogmatix 'HL5040'
> Queue: 1 printable job
> Server: pid 3708 active
> Unspooler: pid 3709 active
> Status: cannot open '/dev/lp0' - 'No such file or directory', attempt 2,
That should be fixable by putting the "lp" module in /etc/modules.
> sleeping 20 at 12:03:42.777
> Rank Owner/ID Pr/Class Job Files Size Time
> active root@dogmatix+706 A 706 (STDIN) 27719 12:03:32
> >
> There is no /dev/lp0. dmesg says:
>
> pnp: the driver 'parport_pc' has been registered
> pnp: match found with the PnP device '00:0c' and the driver 'parport_pc'
> parport: PnPBIOS parport detected.
> parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3
> [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP ,DMA]
> parport0: Printer, Brother HL-5040 series
>
> There are no further references to lp0 or parport0
>
> Googling gives me a few vaguely related symptoms; following one of these I
> found the suggestion to modprobe ppdev. My kern.log then showed:
>
> Aug 7 11:51:56 dogmatix kernel: ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
As far as I know, you need the following modules: parport, parport_pc, lp
> but the symptoms didn't change.
>
> My printcap is:
>
> lp0|HL5040: \
> :lp=/dev/lp0: \
> :force_localhost: \
> :if=/usr/bin/foomatic-rip: \
> :ppd=/usr/local/ppd/Brother-HL-5040-hl1250.ppd: \
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp: \
> :mx#0:sh:
It seems to me that your CUPS problem was fixed at some point (you could print the test page, right?) and then you got bitten by the problem of the missing lp module after you rebooted. In addition there might be something wrong with footmatic-gui. -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |

Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 08:59:41 -0400 From: Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Bzflag Segfaults Message-ID: <20070807125941.GA16234@digital-haze.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 06:56:31AM -0400, Manaen Schlabach wrote:
> On 8/4/07, Manaen Schlabach <manaen.schlabach@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am currently running Debian testing and since doing my daily update
> > two days ago am unable to run Bzflag. The program immediately
> > Segfaults back to the prompt and occasionally causes gdm to restart as
> > well. Is anyone else having this problem?
> >
> I suppose it's bad form to reply to your own list message but maybe my
> experiences will help someone else out. I have determined that it
> isn't just bzflag that has segmentation faults, xmms, and pan are also
> affected. Does anyone know off the top of their heads what package or
> packages that were recently upgraded is used by all three of these
> programs? If this can't be resolved I plan to use apt-pinning to go
> back to stable and hopefully that will clear up my problems.
>
>
Whenever I have a program that segfaults I apt-pin the version from unstable, and that usually fixes the problem for me. What version of Debian are you on anyway, amd64? - -- http://digital-haze.net/~pobega/ - My Website If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGuGy8g6qL2BGnx4QRAl0UAJwLYeSVAlk3hsRpeGG/dSWFo6x1GgCfatCh 4ctXhDe9KYlTK7AUWRnEA0A= =0x9N -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:36:48 +0200 (CEST) From: "Ph. Marek" <philipp@marek.priv.at> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: libc6 with support for old kernels Message-ID: <47006.193.171.152.61.1186490208.squirrel@webmail.marek.priv.at> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everybody, I'd like to ask for some help. I have some machines running an old kernel (2.4.25, from Suse7.3). Now I'= d like to get some newer software running on them, *without* re-installing the whole system. (That would be gnuplot, graphviz, subversion, fsvs, and some others). About a year ago I could take a debian-installation, take the needed files, and put them into a chroot on the old machines, and it worked. Without any problem. I wanted to do that again, with the current versions; but now I get an error message "Kernel too old" (from ld-linux.so AFAIK). [ I tried to use the sarge-packages; while the packages work on 2.4.25, they are really old versions, and unuseable. Eg. fsvs needs at least subversion 1.2, while sarge has only 1.1.4. backports.org has subversion 1.4.1 for sarge, but no libsvn0-dev. ] Is there an compiled libc6 that has support for older kernels, too, or some easy way to recompile it? I'd like to use the normal debian-packages, as they're updated regularly -- the best solution for me would be to pin libc6 to some version or repository, keeping support for the old 2.4, too. Help? Any other ideas? Thank you for all answers. [Please keep me CCed.] Regards, Phil --=20 Versioning your /etc, /home or even your whole installation? Try fsvs (fsvs.tigris.org)! End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2118 ************************************************** Received on Tue Aug 7 09:30:01 2007

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