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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2245

Today's Topics:

  Re: ibm serveraid 7k + amd64 sarge +  [ "sfniks sfinks"  ]
  Re: ibm serveraid 7k + amd64 sarge +  [ Neil Watson  ]
  which fonts config file?              [ Jose Rodriguez  ]
  Re: Good fdisk Practices              [ David Brodbeck  ]
  Re: Good fdisk Practices              [ Celejar  ]
  Re: why is debian coreutils so old?   [ bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) ]
  Re: broken old installer?             [ Ken Irving  ]
  Re: Good fdisk Practices              [ bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) ]
  Re: Good fdisk Practices              [ Klein Moebius  ]

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:08:23 +0300
From: "sfniks sfinks" <sfinks2@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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ok I ran it from chrooted 32-bit environment, but thats what I get: # ./ipssend getconfig 1

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Found 1 IBM ServeRAID controller(s).
Read configuration has been initiated for controller 1...

Controller information

   Firmware version               :
   Boot block version             :
   Controller name                :
   SCSI channel description       : 0 parallel SCSI wide
   Initiator IDs (Channel/SCSI ID):    Maximum physical devices       : 0
   Defunct disk drive count       : 0
   Logical drives/Offline/Critical: 0/0/0
   Readahead cache setting        : Adaptive
   Stripe-unit size               : Unknown
   Hot-swap rebuild               : Disabled
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   Data scrubbing                 : Enabled
   Unattended mode (Yes/No)       : No
   Concurrent commands supported  : 0
   Configuration update count     : 0
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Logical drive information

None are defined

Physical device information

Command completed successfully.

# cat /proc/scsi/ips/0

IBM ServeRAID General Information:

        Controller Type                   : ServeRAID 7k
        Memory region                     : 0xdafff000 (4096 bytes)
        Shared memory address             : 0xffffc20000018000
        IRQ number                        : 17
        BIOS Version                      : 7.12.07
        Firmware Version                  : 7.12.07
        Boot Block Version                : 7.12.07
        Driver Version                    : 7.12.05
        Driver Build                      : 761
        Max Physical Devices              : 30
        Max Active Commands               : 64
        Current Queued Commands           : 0
        Current Active Commands           : 0
        Current Queued PT Commands        : 0
        Current Active PT Commands        : 0

is it driver on ipssend problem?

On 8/24/07, sfniks sfinks <sfinks2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm haveing amd64 sarge installed on ibm server which has serveraid 7k
> controller with scsi disks.
>
> there's ipssend binaries on cd, but
> 1) both are 32 bit:
> /cdrom/linux/scsi/cmdline/ipssend
> /cdrom/linux_x86_64/scsi/cmdline/ipssend
>
> # file /cdrom/linux*/scsi/cmdline/*
> /cdrom/linux/scsi/cmdline/ipssend: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel
> 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, dynamically linked (uses
> shared libs), stripped
> /cdrom/linux_x86_64/scsi/cmdline/ipssend: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel
> 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, dynamically linked (uses
> shared libs), stripped
>
> Anyway, I've searched ibm-s web ang used google but still havent found a
> solution
> how to manage/view raid array (with serveraid 7k) on amd64 sarge..
> Is there statically linked tool by ibm?
> is there source for ipssend by ibm?
> is there any production level opensource tool for this card?
>
> thanks..
>
>

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ok I ran it from chrooted 32-bit environment, but thats what I get:
# ./ipssend  getconfig 1

Found 1 IBM ServeRAID controller(s).
Read configuration has been initiated for controller 1...
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Controller information
----------------------------------------------------------------------
   Firmware version               : 
   Boot block version             : 
   Controller name                : 

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SCSI channel description       : 0 parallel SCSI wide    Initiator IDs (Channel/SCSI ID):    Maximum physical devices       : 0    Defunct disk drive count       : 0    Logical drives/Offline/Critical: 0/0/0    Readahead cache setting        : Adaptive    Stripe-unit size               : Unknown    Hot-swap rebuild               : Disabled    Data scrubbing                 : Enabled    Unattended mode (Yes/No)       : No


   Concurrent commands supported  : 0
   Configuration update count     : 0
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Logical drive information
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   None are defined

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Physical device information
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Command completed successfully.




# cat /proc/scsi/ips/0 

IBM ServeRAID General Information:

        Controller Type                   : ServeRAID 7k
        Memory region                     : 0xdafff000 (4096 bytes)
        Shared memory address             : 0xffffc20000018000

IRQ number                        : 17         BIOS Version                      : 7.12.07         Firmware Version                  : 7.12.07         Boot Block Version                : 7.12.07         Driver Version                    : 7.12.05         Driver Build                      : 761         Max Physical Devices              : 30         Max Active Commands               : 64         Current Queued Commands           : 0         Current Active Commands           : 0         Current Queued PT Commands        : 0         Current Active PT Commands        : 0 is it driver on ipssend problem? <div>On 8/24/07, sfniks sfinks <<a href="mailto:sfinks2@gmail.com">sfinks2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi, I'm haveing amd64 sarge installed on ibm server which has serveraid 7k controller with scsi disks. there's ipssend binaries on cd, but 1) both are 32 bit: /cdrom/linux/scsi/cmdline/ipssend 
/cdrom/linux_x86_64/scsi/cmdline/ipssend # file /cdrom/linux*/scsi/cmdline/* /cdrom/linux/scsi/cmdline/ipssend:        ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped /cdrom/linux_x86_64/scsi/cmdline/ipssend: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped Anyway, I've searched ibm-s web ang used google but still havent found a solution how to manage/view raid array (with serveraid 7k) on amd64 sarge.. Is there statically linked tool by ibm? is there source for ipssend by ibm? is there any production level opensource tool for this card?

thanks.. 
</blockquote></div>

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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:11:44 -0400
From: Neil Watson <debian@watson-wilson.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ibm serveraid 7k + amd64 sarge + ipssend?

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Call IBM support. When I last worked with IBM gear they fully supported Linux. They will point you to the correct location to acquire the latest drivers and management tools.

-- 
Neil Watson             | Debian Linux
System Administrator    | Uptime 1 day
http://watson-wilson.ca

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:12:05 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cs=C3=A1nyi_P=C3=A1l?= <csanyipal@csanyi-pal.info> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: graphics driver issues Message-ID: <20070824191205.GA4763@csanyi-pal.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 01:31:49PM -0500, sworoc wrote:
> On 8/24/07, Joe Hart <j.hart@orange.nl> wrote:
> > On Friday 24 August 2007 19:48:31 sworoc wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am a college student and am taking a graphics course this fall. I
> > > recently built a PC with an AMD64 CPU and a GeForce 6150 on board
> > > graphics card. I seem to be having trouble getting it to use the
> > > nvidia module, but I'm not sure where I'm going wrong. I installed it
> > > using the module assistant method, and I believe that I have things
> > > set up correctly.
> > >
> > > output:
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > puckett:~# uname -a
> > > Linux puckett 2.6.21-2-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 10 21:39:38 UTC 2007 x86_64
> > > GNU/Linux
> > > puckett:~# lsmod | grep nvidia
> > > nvidia 5434580 0
> > > i2c_core 28288 4 nvidia,it87,i2c_isa,i2c_nforce2
> > > puckett:~# apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx
> > > nvidia-kernel-2.6.21-2-amd64
> > > Reading package lists... Done
> > > Building dependency tree
> > > Reading state information... Done
> > > nvidia-kernel-common is already the newest version.
> > > nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
> > > nvidia-kernel-2.6.21-2-amd64 is already the newest version.
> > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > it appears that the nvidia module is running from the output above,
> > > but when I attempt to start X, I get the following:
> > >
> > > ********************************************
> > > xauth: creating new authority file /home/dustin/.serverauth.18757
> > >
> > >
> > > X Window System Version 1.3.0
> > > Release Date: 19 April 2007
> > > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
> > > Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2: 1.3.0.0.dfsg-12)
> > > Current Operating System: Linux puckett 2.6.21-2-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 10
> > > 21:39:38 UTC 2007 x86_64
> > > Build Date: 09 August 2007
> > > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org <http://wiki.x.org>
> > > to make sure that you have the latest version.
> > > Module Loader present
> > > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
> > > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
> > > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> > > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Aug 21 22:12:10 2007
> > > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> > > (II) Module already built-in
> > > (II) Module already built-in
> > > (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
> > > (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
> > > (EE) No drivers available.
> > <snip irrelavent portions of xorg.conf>
> >
> > > Section "Module"
> > > Load "i2c"
> > > Load "bitmap"
> > > Load "ddc"
> > > Load "dri"
> > > Load "extmod"
> > > Load "freetype"
> > > Load "nvidia"
> > > Load "glx"
> > > Load "int10"
> > > Load "vbe"
> > > EndSection
> >
> > I'm not an expert, but to me it looks like your problem is with the tabbed
> > line above: Load "nvidia" should not be in this section. Try removing that
> > and see what happens.
Read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.Debian and /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz -- Regards, Paul Csanyi http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:13:34 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Good fdisk Practices Message-ID: <46CF2DDE.9030602@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/07 12:51, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> I'm a big proponent of swap *files*. Once you allocate the whole
>>> disk, there no room left over if you want to add another swap
>>> partition, whereas you can add as many swap files as your heart
>>> desires, whenever you need them.
>
>> I'd always heard that swap files are slower than swap partitions. Is that
>> a myth?
>
>> Also, is there any good reason to have a separate /boot on a modern system?
>> I always thought /boot was just a kludge to get around old BIOSes that
>> couldn't load anything that wasn't on the first part of the disk. I tend
>> to just combine /boot and / on my newer systems --
>> am I taking some kind of risk by doing so?
>
> All my drives have 2 partitions: a /boot (with ext2 or ext3) of about 100MB
> and the rest is an partition dedicated to LVM. The reason for the separate
> /boot is that GRUB does not know how to read files from LVM volumes, so
> I need to load the kernel and initrd files from an ext[23]. Everything else
> (/, /home, swap, etc..) is placed in LVM volumes.
I read recently on this list that LVM is not portable across CPU architectures, so that you can't just upgrade your mobo to AMD64 and retain your /home. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGzy3eS9HxQb37XmcRAnDpAJ9KEs2wvyB8i+AeUK1B1oaeivM8FwCgk3nt iG1Dfg4nC25bBbsFDgMDwNo= =XxMf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:56:39 +0100 From: Jose Rodriguez <josec.rodriguez@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: which fonts config file? Message-ID: <20070824195639.8cdc6f72.josec.rodriguez@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello I get different fonts when I start the GUI by issuing startx than using kdm. I would like to know which configuration files are read in each case so I can adjust them to my taste. Thanks

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:37:14 -0700 From: J <j1234f@excite.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Getting W: mdadm: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf defines no arrays in install of linux-image 2.6.28-5 Message-ID: <1187984234.830312.125460@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Getting W: mdadm: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf defines no arrays in install of linux-image 2.6.28-5 ----------- Getting warning message: W: mdadm: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf defines no arrays W: mdadm:no array defined in conifuration file. W: mdadm:falling back to emergency procedure in initramfs. Added Linux * during in install of linux-image 2.6.28-5 Will my system reboot if I power off? thanks j

Don't know where to look next?

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:14:42 -0700 From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: List Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Good fdisk Practices Message-Id: <70E55C6D-178F-4427-B5B5-2AC38301E877@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Aug 24, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote:
> If you use LVM you're stuck with a separate, non-LVM /boot partition
> AFAIK. Or is this outated info?
I think that's true. I don't usually make the root filesystem an LVM volume, anyway. In most distributions it's quite small and making it a "normal" partition makes some recovery scenarios easier -- it's just one less thing that has to work for the system to boot into single user mode.

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:18:03 -0700 From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: List Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Good fdisk Practices Message-Id: <1E8B7C13-4848-4AD6-BF1D-AF3AF9293A59@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Aug 24, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> I read recently on this list that LVM is not portable across CPU
> architectures, so that you can't just upgrade your mobo to AMD64 and
> retain your /home.
Well, now you've got me curious. If so, this is potentially a serious issue, because most rescue disks are 32-bit. If it's true, then an LVM created on a 64-bit system wouldn't be readable with a 32- bit rescue disk. It also might have implications for things like USB hard disks. (These are getting big enough where it might start to make sense to LVM them -- I have one USB array that's 1.5 TB.) I happen to have a spare AMD64 system and a couple of spare IA32 systems, all with hot-swap drive bays that take the same sleds, so I may try this and see what happens.

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:21:22 +0200 From: Michal Krajcirovic <konference@kraja.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: graph generate for ip areas Message-ID: <46CF3DC2.3090301@kraja.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, i want to generate eth graphs (munin, mrtg, or anything other) in this way: i have some ip areas. i want to generated 20 areas to first graph, 50 areas to second graph and other to third graph. How to this? Thank you. -- Michal Krajcirovic

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:35:24 -0400 From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Good fdisk Practices Message-Id: <20070824163524.d42bab1f.celejar@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:14:42 -0700 David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>
> On Aug 24, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote:
>
> > If you use LVM you're stuck with a separate, non-LVM /boot partition
> > AFAIK. Or is this outated info?
>
> I think that's true. I don't usually make the root filesystem an LVM
> volume, anyway. In most distributions it's quite small and making it
> a "normal" partition makes some recovery scenarios easier -- it's
> just one less thing that has to work for the system to boot into
> single user mode.
I believe it is actually outdated information; GRUB apparently supports LVM these days: http://grub.enbug.org/LVMandRAID Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:42:10 -0400 From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Good fdisk Practices Message-Id: <20070824164210.7ce639e1.celejar@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:51:14 -0400 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> All my drives have 2 partitions: a /boot (with ext2 or ext3) of about 100MB
> and the rest is an partition dedicated to LVM. The reason for the separate
> /boot is that GRUB does not know how to read files from LVM volumes, so
> I need to load the kernel and initrd files from an ext[23]. Everything else
Apparently no longer true, as I pointed out in another message in this thread.
> Stefan
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:49:00 -0600 From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: why is debian coreutils so old? Message-ID: <20070824204900.GA31045@dementia.proulx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sven Joachim wrote:
> You should probably ask the package maintainer directly. Some
> information is available at [1].
> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/422279
That particular issue mostly has to do with UTF-8 support. So far all of the patch suggestions for it (used by other distros) are quite ugly with a lot of duplicated code and has been rejected by the upstream maintainer. There really should be a better way to do this. The inclusion of UTF-8 support and the issues surrounding the upgrade to a newer coreutils in Debian are mostly independent. However even I am not aware of the issues the Debian maintainer has with moving to a newer coreutils. I would like to see it happen too. Bob

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:49:52 -0800 From: Ken Irving <fnkci@uaf.edu> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: broken old installer? Message-ID: <20070824204952.GA7784@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:21:17AM -0800, Ken Irving wrote:
> I'm somewhat CD-writing-impaired, and have always installed debian systems
> using outdated installers. For a long time I used a woody net install cd,
> but since mid-2005 I've been using a sarge net install cd, as recently
> as a month ago, without problems. Now I'm seeing the install fail.
> Unfortunately, the first error screen indicating a problem is quickly
> (~ 1 second maybe) replaced with an information-free curses page saying
> that there were errors...
>
> ...
> On thing I haven't tried is to do the install completely off the CD,
> and do the net upgrades later.
... which of course didn't work from the *net install* cd. I was able to proceed after upgrading aptitude (and related libraries) from another console.
> Should I not be using my trusty old installer?
I guess not. -- Ken Irving, fnkci+debianuser@uaf.edu

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:55:46 -0600 From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Good fdisk Practices Message-ID: <20070824205546.GB31045@dementia.proulx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Celejar wrote:
> > Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote:
> > > If you use LVM you're stuck with a separate, non-LVM /boot partition
> > > AFAIK. Or is this outated info?
>
> I believe it is actually outdated information; GRUB apparently supports
> LVM these days:
>
> http://grub.enbug.org/LVMandRAID
Check the version number of grub though. That is only available in the newer versions. You need "grub2-pc" at the least. I am not sure how mature grub2-pc is at this time. Bob

Confused? Frustrated?

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:02:46 -0500 From: Klein Moebius <klein.moebius@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Good fdisk Practices Message-ID: <20070824210246.GA19404@laphapless.davescrunch.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline * Martin McCormick <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu> [2007-08-24 08:10:41 -0500]:
> It appears after reading the fdisk manual, that it is
> best to put swap on whats left of the disk after calculating
> one's other partition needs. The boot image should end up in the
> lowest sector numbers. Do I understand this right?
Yep.
>
> I am about to reformat a 20-gig hard disk on a
> 5-year-old Dell laptop that used to run Windows XP. You might
> say, I am giving it a whole new outlook.
>
Got that right.
> The present fdisk report for /dev/hda shows a 32-MB
> partition 1 and a 19-gig partition 2. I think I will probably
> make it 19-gigs for partition 1 and 512 MB for partition2 since
> the system has 256 K of RAM. Partition 1 will be Linux and
> partition2 will be swap.
Hmm. Consider this: In older machines where hard drive physical speed can be a noticable factor in machine performance, it makes sense to to place your partitions that see the most activity in terms of read/write accesses physically close to each other with swap in between. The head doesn't have to move as far to accomplish the same task. Hanging the swap out at the end can be a detriment. Perhaps a scheme such as this: 50 Mg /boot at the beginning 300 Mg / 5 gig /usr 3 gig /var 384 - 512 Mg swap 480 Mg /tmp and the balance as /home -- Regards, Klein. One doesn't have a sense of humor. It has you. -- Larry Gelbart

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:40:08 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Good fdisk Practices Message-ID: <46CF5038.7080009@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/07 16:02, Klein Moebius wrote: [snip]
> In older machines where hard drive physical speed can be a noticable
> factor in machine performance, it makes sense to to place your
> partitions that see the most activity in terms of read/write accesses
> physically close to each other with swap in between. The head doesn't
Or go out on Ebay and buy some replacement RAM chips. If the chips on your Hell aren't soldered onto the mobo. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGz1A4S9HxQb37XmcRAmjtAJ4y9FQVcdJpg7a/7cQxiH7QQeyyXQCeNNsE 6AC7lKbX1GvtO4smBy6PZCA= =r3Tc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2245 ************************************************** Received on Fri Aug 24 18:10:22 2007

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