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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2255

Today's Topics: 

  Re: LVM partition full (was:what is   [ "Richard Lyons"  ]
  linux on ipod nano?                   [ "Richard Lyons"  ]
  Re: using a remote IMAP server and s  [ "Richard Lyons"  ]
  Re: hda: DMA timeout error, is it a   [ Frank McCormick  ]
  [ANNOUNCE] pypt-offline 0.7.0 Releas  [ Ritesh Raj Sarraf 

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:38:27 +0100 (BST)
From: "Richard Lyons" <richard@the-place.net>
To: "debian-user " <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: LVM partition full (was:what is /command  directory?)

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On Sun, August 26, 2007 14:35, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 12:25:30PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:

>> On Sun, August 26, 2007 02:24, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> > On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 12:52:30AM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
[...]

>> $ df -h
>> Filesystem         Dimens. Usati Disp. Uso% Montato su

Do you need help?X

>> /dev/mapper/Debian-root
>>                       259M  165M   81M  68% /
>> /dev/hda1             228M   34M  182M  16% /boot
>> /dev/mapper/Debian-home
>>                       9,3G  4,6G  4,2G  53% /home
>> /dev/mapper/Debian-tmp
>>                       368M   11M  337M   4% /tmp
>> /dev/mapper/Debian-usr
>>                       4,7G  3,5G  1,1G  78% /usr
>> /dev/mapper/Debian-var
>>                       2,9G  901M  1,8G  33% /var
>


> I don't see anything here to panic over.  If you want to give yourself
> some more room in /, you could put /tmp on tmpfs as long as you have
> enough swap already.  Then you could delete the LV tmp and reallocate
> its space to /.  Also, your /boot is too big but that's more difficult
> to change; not impossible.

I've just read the lvm howto and other stuff on 'Changing the Size of
the LVM-Partitions' -- and I don't like the sound of it a bit.  Lots
of talk of "if something goes wrong", and very complicated. I think
I'll go back to the old way as soon as I have energy to do the moving.
There is room on my second hard drive to copy the whole system off,
repartition the first drive, and copy it back.  With boot on a non-LVM
partition, I assume it will all reboot quite happily afterwards. (Mental
note: I must remember to remove everything lvm from /etc/rc*.d. before
rebooting)



[...]


Do you need more help?X
> However, I don't see that your setup needs any tweaking right now.  / i=

s

> at 68% with 81 MB free.

True, that is after I moved /opt from / to /usr/local.  When I first
stumbled on the issue, it was at 96%.



Thanks for your help, Douglas.



--=20


richard



Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:14:04 +0000


From: Peter Easthope <peasthope@shaw.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Re: photo album or photo viewer in xfce

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Thanks for all the comments and recommendations concerning photo
viewers.  I installed gqview on a machine used by my mother.  feh
would be baffling in this case.  I can try some of the other choices later.



Thanks,           ... Peter


Can we help you?X

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:49:00 +0100 (BST)
From: "Richard Lyons" <richard@the-place.net>
To: "debian-user " <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: linux on ipod nano?

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Sorry to repeat, but I stupidly tagged this question on to another
thread, and I guess nobody noticed.  So I'll put it differently:



Does anybody understand the error I am getting from gpod:



    Failed to remove watch



Sounds to me like a text message from a pickpocket.  But it seems to
indicate a problem that prevents unmounting/ejecting the ipod.  I
suppose, therefore that I am risking corrupting the database if I
unplug it anyway.



I therefore seem to have two options:




It is an ipod nano second series.  Any enlightening comments?


Can't find what you're looking for?X
TIA


--=20


richard



Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:42:24 +0200


From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: using a remote IMAP server and smarthost

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On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 11:06:14 +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:

> On Sat, August 25, 2007 23:27, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> [...]
> > In the following I will assume that your ~/.ssh/config is set up such
> > that you can use "ssh myvm" to log in on the vm. (This allows me to keep
> > the command syntax simple and in any case I think it is a good approach
> > in practice.) I would also recommend to set up public key authentication
> 
> I have set up the alias for ssh, and created a key for authentication.
> 
> > and to use ssh-agent, to avoid having to type your password whenever you
> > send mail.
> 
> I read the man page for ssh-agent, but am not much the wiser.  Still, I
> figure I can try without it for now...

We can tackle this later. You can set an empty passphrase for your
private key for now, so that it does not bother you while you experiment
with mail via ssh.


> > Method 1:
> > ---------
> >
> > You can forward a local port via ssh like this:
> >
> > ssh -N -L 2525:smtp.smarthost.tld:25 myvm
> >
> > This command establishes an ssh connection to myvm. Everything that is
> > sent to port 2525 on your local computer will be forwarded to myvm and
> > then myvm will pass it on to smtp.smarthost.tld, port 25. This is like a
> > mini-VPN for only one port; you have to run this command before you send
> > mail(s) and you can cancel it (CTRL-C) when you are done. Mutt (or any
> > other MUA) on the local computer can now simply be configured to use
> > localhost, port 2525 as its smtp server.
> 
> I find the whole mail process absurdly confusing, and nobody seems to
> have written a lucid explanation of how the bits fit together. I read
> mail by connecting to the IMAP server.  When I write mail, mutt sends
> it to my local sendmail, is that right?  And the local sendmail is
> specified in ~/.muttrc thus:
>       set  sendmail="/usr/lib/sendmail"
> which is really my local exim4.  So that needs to be set up to send via
> port 2525.  How?
> 
> Or is that all wrong?

That is all correct. However, I vaguely remember that I had difficulties
in the past when I tried to get exim4 to work over a forwarded port. The
most straightforward approach is to run "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config"
and select "local delivery only" (for system mails from cronjobs, etc.).
Then you can either use mutt's built-in smtp mechanism (exists in Lenny
and Sid, but not in Etch, I think) or you can install the "msmtp"
package which provides a sendmail work-alike that is very easy to
configure. Here is an example configuration file (~/.msmtprc):


#-------------------------



tls on


host localhost


port 2525


from user@server.tld


auth on


user YOUR_USERNAME


password YOUR_PASSWORD

#-------------------------


Then you can tell mutt to use msmtp by putting


Don't know where to look next?X

set sendmail="/usr/bin/msmtp"



into your ~/.muttrc and you should be ready to go.



Of course, it would be even more interesting if you could install and
configure msmtp on your VM (using the smarthost of your provider
directly in .msmtprc). If this works with mutt running on the VM then it
should be possible to use "method 2" of my previous mail for your local
mutt by changing the command in the wrapper script to:



cat - | ssh myvm "/usr/bin/msmtp $@"


-- 
Regards,            | 
http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
          Florian   |


Date:  Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:23:20 +0100
From: Jamin Davis <jweb@ghost.merseine.nu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: Adaptec 2120S on etch
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Chris Robinson <list@krc.org.uk> wrote:


> I unsterstand that I need to do:
> enable CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y and CONFIG_SCSI_AACRAID={y,m}
> to get Adaptec 2120S to work on etch.
> Please can someone point me in the right direction to do this.
> I have PCs running Sarge and Etch.  I do not normally recompile Kernels.


You're in luck - kernel recompilation under Debian is super friendly and
well documented. Install kernel-package and read the README -- which will
direct you which other packages need installing. 

When you build a kernel it's easy to import your current (running) config,
in fact that's the default, then just change what you need.

-- 
Jamin @ Home: Chester UK -<jamin@ghost.merseine.nu>



Date:  Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:27:30 +0100
From: Jamin Davis <jweb@ghost.merseine.nu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: Adobe SVG viewer plugin
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Nyizsnyik Ferenc <nyizsa@bluebottle.com> wrote:


>   I have a strange problem with the SVG viewer plugin from Adobe [1].
> I use XFCE. I installed the plugin, then went to test it. An EULA
> was displayed, I accepted it, and from then on, SVG graphicvs were
> displayed correctly.
>   However, my wife uses Gnome. When she tried to check SVG, nothing was


IIUC once you've accepted the EULA in an XFCE session the SVG plugin works
in both Gnome and XFCE. Could you not just login to XFCE using your wife's
account, start iceweasel/accept the EULA and logout.. then login to Gnome?

-- 
Jamin @ Home: Chester UK -<jamin@ghost.merseine.nu>



Date:  Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:36:06 +0100
From: Jamin Davis <jweb@ghost.merseine.nu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: big brother yahoo
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Richard Lyons <richard@the-place.net> wrote:

>> it's a little unreasonable to expect them to have a list of the ID
>> strings of every single niche browser someone might happen to be using.

> So they should just send standards-compliant html when in doubt,
> not start preaching at us.


Nor should they link to "Get Internet Explorer 6/7/8" as a "solution". And
it's perfectly possible to craft a website without using browser-specific
code.

-- 
Jamin @ Home: Chester UK -<jamin@ghost.merseine.nu>



Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:22:24 +0100 (BST)
From: "Richard Lyons" <richard@the-place.net>
To: "debian-user " <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: using a remote IMAP server and smarthost
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On Sun, August 26, 2007 17:42, Florian Kulzer wrote:
[...]

> I vaguely remember that I had difficulties
> in the past when I tried to get exim4 to work over a forwarded port. Th=

e

> most straightforward approach is to run "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config"
> and select "local delivery only" (for system mails from cronjobs, etc.)=

.

> Then you can either use mutt's built-in smtp mechanism (exists in Lenny
> and Sid, but not in Etch, I think) or you can install the "msmtp"
> package which provides a sendmail work-alike that is very easy to
> configure. Here is an example configuration file (~/.msmtprc):

>

> #-------------------------
> tls on
> host localhost
> port 2525
> from user@server.tld
> auth on
> user YOUR_USERNAME
> password YOUR_PASSWORD
> #-------------------------

>

> Then you can tell mutt to use msmtp by putting

>

> set sendmail=3D"/usr/bin/msmtp"

>

> into your ~/.muttrc and you should be ready to go.



Florian, you are a genius!  You make it all so simple.

I'll get on to it shortly and let you know if it succeeds.




> Of course, it would be even more interesting if you could install and
> configure msmtp on your VM (using the smarthost of your provider
> directly in .msmtprc). If this works with mutt running on the VM then i=

t

> should be possible to use "method 2" of my previous mail for your local
> mutt by changing the command in the wrapper script to:

>

> cat - | ssh myvm "/usr/bin/msmtp $@"


I may try that too.

Thanks again,

--=20
richard


Confused? Frustrated?X

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:35:04 +0200
From: Erdi Balint <erdibalint@freemail.hu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: hibernate to disk on ASUS laptop
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Hi,

I am struggling to make hibernation work on my ASUS laptop 
(Unfortunately I do not know the exact model number, it was from the L 
series, I reckon).

I've decided to use the suspend-to-disk method and use the swap 
partition (/dev/hda3) for this end. I use stock kernel version 2.6.22.

The 'free' command shows the following:

(...)
Swap:          949          0        949

So apparently the swap partition is ok.

I've configured hibernate for the above described idea and launched 
'sudo hibernate -v3'

I see this on the console:

hibernate: Trying method in suspend2.conf...
hibernate: Trying method in disk.conf...
hibernate: Trying method in ususpend-disk.conf...
hibernate: Including configuration from common.conf

Then several more lines that basically indicate that everything works as 
expected, the swap is big enough to hold the image (Image size: 366340). 
My laptop powers off. Things go wrong when I switch it on, expecting to 
resume my hibernate session.

What it does instead is that it boots like hibernation had never 
happened at all without indicating what's wrong.

I copy a few lines of dmesg here that might be related to that problem:

Linux version 2.6.22-1-686 (Debian 2.6.22-3)
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro resume=/dev/hda3
(...)
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Freeing initrd memory: 1292k freed
(...)
Unable to find swap-space signature

It also says sometimes:

swapon: /dev/hda3: Invalid argument. failed,

but this line is mysteriously missing from dmesg, I could see it quickly 
scroll away but could never review it later (using dmesg or syslog)

When this happens, I do:

sudo mkswap /dev/hda3;
sudo swapon -a

so swap is restored and then try hibernating again, but that does not 
help either.

In the hibernate.log, I could not spot anything wrong either:

Starting suspend at Sun Aug 26 18:57:19 CEST 2007
hibernate: [01] Executing CheckLastResume ...
Resumed at Sun Aug 26 18:57:19 CEST 2007
(...)
Starting suspend at Sun Aug 26 18:58:19 CEST 2007
(...)
Unloading blacklisted modules listed /etc/hibernate/blacklisted-modules
(...)
hibernate: [99] Executing DoUSuspend ...
hibernate: Running /usr/sbin/s2disk ...

I tried to nudge things by manually editing the grub menu.lst and adding 
the resume kernel boot parameter:

kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro 
resume=/dev/hda3

And also by adding one line in /etc/hibernate/suspend2.conf to define 
the SuspendDevice manually:

SuspendDevice swap:/dev/hda3

, but that did not help either.

I use acpi, also checked the BIOS parameters and browsed through several 
forums but could not find an answer to this problem. I have an ATI 
Radeon card that I've read on several occasions could cause problems but 
I am not yet there to have this kind of annoyances, I think :)

Did any of you had serious experiences or any luck making this work on 
an ASUS laptop? (As a secondary question, I would be happy to know why 
certain lines that I see on the console when my laptop boots are 
inaccessible later? Neither by dmesg, nor in syslog, see the example of 
'swapon: /dev/hda3: Invalid argument. failed' above.)

Any help is much appreciated, thank you,
Balint



Date:  Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:42:14 +0100
From: Jamin Davis <jweb@ghost.merseine.nu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: graphics driver issues
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sworoc <sworoc@gmail.com> wrote:


> <snip>
> it appears that the nvidia module is running from the output above,
> but when I attempt to start X, I get the following:
> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) No drivers available.


Have you got a file /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so (from
nvidia-glx package)

-- 
Jamin @ Home: Chester UK -<jamin@ghost.merseine.nu>



Date:  Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:33:19 +0100
From: Jamin Davis <jweb@ghost.merseine.nu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: Good fdisk Practices
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David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> wrote:

>> There may be good reason for it still in terms of security.  /boot
>> doesn't need to be mounted on a running system.  I'm not sure if that
>> adds a lot of security though.

> I'm thinking no.  To alter any of the kernel files you'd need root
> privileges, and if you have that, you can do 'mount /boot'.


I read an installation doc a long time ago that suggested mounting boot
read-only for security - have done so ever since. It's not every day I need
to update the kernel.

-- 
Jamin @ Home: Chester UK -<jamin@ghost.merseine.nu>



Date:  Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:30:05 +0100
From: Jamin Davis <jweb@ghost.merseine.nu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: Good fdisk Practices
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Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:


> I'm a big proponent of swap *files*.  Once you allocate the whole
> disk, there no room left over if you want to add another swap
> partition, whereas you can add as many swap files as your heart
> desires, whenever you need them.


After reading this thread I switched from using two swap partitions to
swapfiles. It may sound obvious but the docs I read didn't mention
permissions on the swapfile which should be 0600.. don't want a
world-readable swap :)

-- 
Jamin @ Home: Chester UK -<jamin@ghost.merseine.nu>



Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:51:42 +0200
From: Nyizsnyik Ferenc <nyizsa@bluebottle.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: jamin@ghost.merseine.nu
Subject: Re: Adobe SVG viewer plugin
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:27:30 +0100
Jamin Davis <jweb@ghost.merseine.nu> wrote:


> Nyizsnyik Ferenc <nyizsa@bluebottle.com> wrote:
> 
> >   I have a strange problem with the SVG viewer plugin from Adobe
> > [1]. I use XFCE. I installed the plugin, then went to test it. An
> > EULA was displayed, I accepted it, and from then on, SVG graphicvs
> > were displayed correctly.
> >   However, my wife uses Gnome. When she tried to check SVG, nothing
> > was
> 
> IIUC once you've accepted the EULA in an XFCE session the SVG plugin
> works in both Gnome and XFCE. Could you not just login to XFCE using
> your wife's account, start iceweasel/accept the EULA and logout..
> then login to Gnome?
> 


I wrote earlier:

>   The same happened with my guest account. But, when I logged in to an
> XFCE session with the guest account, all went well. Logging back to
> Gnome the same thing happened (except that the EULA message wasn't
> displayed, since I accepted it).


And the same thing happens to my wife's account - still no font for the
menu in Gnome.

-- 
Szia:
		Nyizsa.

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Date:  Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:30:16 -0400
From: "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  books and library inventory
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Hello,

Somebody was asking me earlier today how to set up an electronic
database of a community library with a few hundred books. I just
realized I cannot find much on the web. Perhaps I am not looking for the
right words.

What I have in mind is an open source application that can be used to
keep a database of books and CDROMs in a library and keep track to whom
certain items have been lent out. Any ideas?

thanks,
->HS



Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:34:54 +0100 (BST)
From: "Richard Lyons" <richard@the-place.net>
To: "debian-user " <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: using a remote IMAP server and smarthost
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On Sun, August 26, 2007 17:42, Florian Kulzer wrote:
[...]

> or you can install the "msmtp"
> package which provides a sendmail work-alike that is very easy to
> configure. Here is an example configuration file (~/.msmtprc):

>

> #-------------------------
> tls on
> host localhost
> port 2525
> from user@server.tld
> auth on
> user YOUR_USERNAME
> password YOUR_PASSWORD
> #-------------------------

>

> Then you can tell mutt to use msmtp by putting

>

> set sendmail=3D"/usr/bin/msmtp"

>

> into your ~/.muttrc and you should be ready to go.


I now get an error message from mutt:

Errore nella spedizione del messaggio, il figlio =E8 uscito con 69 (Servi=
ce
unavailable.)
which is probably in English
Error in sending the message, the child process exited with 69 (Service
unavailable.)

and it also relays:

msmtp: the server does not support TLS via the STARTTLS command
msmtp: could not send mail (account default from /home/richard/.msmtprc)

I'm guessing the 'server' referred to is the VM.  I'll try installing
msmtp there.

--=20
richard



Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:50:06 +0200
From: Shams Fantar <sfantar@snurf.info>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: hda: DMA timeout error, is it a problem ?
Message-ID: <46D1D96E.8080300@snurf.info>
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I think that the hard disk really has a hardware problem. I'm going to 
change it.

Subject closed. ;-)

Thank you for your help.

Regards,

-- 
Shams Fantar (http://snurf.info)


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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:56:43 -0400
From: Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: hda: DMA timeout error, is it a problem ?
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:50:06 +0200
Shams Fantar <sfantar@snurf.info> wrote:


> I think that the hard disk really has a hardware problem. I'm going to 
> change it.
> 



   Let us know how it goes.

Cheers


Frank

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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:02:43 -0000
From: Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: big brother yahoo
Message-ID: <1188158563.588364.263640@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
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On Aug 25, 8:10 pm, David Brodbeck <bro...@u.washington.edu> wrote:

> On Aug 25, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:

>

> >> I am able to watch videos athttp://video.yahoo.combutthat might
> >> be because I changed general.useragent.extra.firefox to
> >>      Firefox/2.0.0.6

>

> > I think the ultimate point is that we shouldn't have to emulate some
> > other software to browse the web.

>

> Ultimately the problem is there's no way to easily distinguish
> between "Mozilla-style" and "IE-style" browsers, I suppose.  I think
> it's a little unreasonable to expect them to have a list of the ID
> strings of every single niche browser someone might happen to be using.


Given that the problem is caused by IE-style browsers, which all tend
to identify as IE, why not apply it to IE only instead?



Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:14:18 +0530
From: Ritesh Raj Sarraf <rrs@researchut.com>
To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] pypt-offline 0.7.0 Released
Message-Id: <200708270220.53259.rrs@researchut.com>
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Hi,

After quite some time, I'm happy to announce a new release of pypt-offline.

Some of the quick features are:

* Offline Bug Report support - Users can now also have information about wh=
at=20
packages contain bug reports. [Debian Only]
* Colored Output - Full colored output. [ Support on Windows is through=20
WConio]
* Better support for threads
* Many new options added

I've now started using Mercurial along with SF's SVN which can be viewed at=
=20
[1] and [2]

I've also put up a video at [3] explaining how pypt-offline works.

pypt-offline can be downloaded from:
http://sf.net/projects/pypt-offline

What is pypt-offline?

pypt-offline is an Offline Package Manager for distributions based on Debia=
n.=20
It can allow a user using a Debian distribution with no internet connection=
=20
to be able to update/upgrade his box with the help of another box running=20
Windows/Linux/Mac

A recent article from Ars [4] was informative enough to show how many=20
countries still don't have [or is very expensive] a proper internet=20
connection.

I hope pypt-offline will be helpful to people who are willing to enjoy the=
=20
powerful features of Debian but aren't yet able to do so because of interne=
t=20
connectivity.

=46eedback welcome.

[1] http://pypt-offline.sf.net/hg/pypt-offline
[2] http://www.researchut.com/hg/pypt-offline
[3] http://pypt-offline.sourceforge.net/pypt-offline-video.html
[4]=20
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070727-the-internet-in-kazakhstan-we=
lcome-to-the-land-of-3355-per-month-dsl.html

Ritesh
=2D-=20
Ritesh Raj Sarraf
RESEARCHUT - http://www.researchut.com
"Necessity is the mother of invention."

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