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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2256

Today's Topics: 

  Strange 224.0.0.251 address being ac  [ Nigel Henry  ]
  Re: Command to see ip address on etc  [ Alex Samad  ]
  Re: books and library inventory       [ Ron Johnson  ]
  Re: books and library inventory       [ "H.S."  ]
  Re: using a remote IMAP server and s  [ Florian Kulzer  ]
  Re: LVM partition full (was:what is   [ Cameron Hutchison  ]
  possible to "apt-get -b source every  [ Rogelio Bastardo  ]
  Re: LVM partition full (was:what is   [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  Re: Strange 224.0.0.251 address bein  [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:42:51 +0200
From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb@tiscali.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Strange 224.0.0.251 address being accessed on bootup 

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I've had this problem for a while. When booting Debian Lenny, and perhaps Etch as well. When booting up I've had the following output trying to access 224.0.0.251.

eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1 NET: Registered protocol family 10
lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.22 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=0 DF OPT (94040000) PROTO=2
DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=257 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=237 DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=257 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=237 DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=257 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=237 DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=239 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=219 DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=136 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=116 DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=136 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=116 DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=136 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=116 DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=225 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=205 DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=195 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=175 DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=225 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=205 DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=200 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=180 

DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=91 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 
TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=71
DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=225 TOS=0x00
PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=205 DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.22 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=0 DF OPT (94040000) PROTO=2 According to RFC 3171 this block of addresses (224.0.0.x) is reserved for special purposes.

192.168.0.8 is the static address of my Lenny install, and 224.0.0.251 is the mystery address.

Do you need help?X

There are 2 daemons that are running and looking for a response at bootup. Ntpd is directed towards my other machine that is getting it's time from the Internet. That is across the LAN, not the Internet. That's not the problem.

The only thing accessing the Internet at boot up is freshclam, and that once the ethernet connection is up.

Any help, suggestions would be really welcome.

Nigel.

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:07:58 +1000
From: Alex Samad <alex@samad.com.au>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 05:11:25PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2007-08-23 17:36:55 -0400, Orestes leal wrote:
> > ifconfig -a | grep 'inet' | awk '{ print $2 }'
> >=20
> > Where the first result comes from the first interface, and so on
> > the last line it's your loopback address, bye.

>=20

> No, not necessarily: after lo, you can have sit0 (I don't know if it
> is used in practice) and/or usb0.

can also use ip li, it will show all network links on your box and ip a=20 

>=20

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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:38:32 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: books and library inventory 

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Can't find what you're looking for?X

On 08/26/07 14:30, H.S. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Somebody was asking me earlier today how to set up an electronic
> database of a community library with a few hundred books. I just
> realized I cannot find much on the web. Perhaps I am not looking for the
> right words.
>
> What I have in mind is an open source application that can be used to
> keep a database of books and CDROMs in a library and keep track to whom
> certain items have been lent out. Any ideas?

Did you try Googling:

    open +source +library +management 

http://www.emilda.org/http://www.myacpl.org/about/kohahttp://www.koha.org/
  • -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:55:43 -0400
From: "H.S." <hs.samix@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: books and library inventory 

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Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 08/26/07 14:30, H.S. wrote:

>> Hello,

> 
>> Somebody was asking me earlier today how to set up an electronic
>> database of a community library with a few hundred books. I just
>> realized I cannot find much on the web. Perhaps I am not looking for the
>> right words.

> 
>> What I have in mind is an open source application that can be used to
>> keep a database of books and CDROMs in a library and keep track to whom
>> certain items have been lent out. Any ideas?

>
> Did you try Googling:
> open +source +library +management
Don't know where to look next?X

I tried but slightly different words (which did not include managment word).

> http://www.emilda.org/
> http://www.myacpl.org/about/koha
> http://www.koha.org/
>

Great! This will get me started.

thanks,
->HS

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:53:19 +0200
From: Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: using a remote IMAP server and smarthost 

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On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 20:34:54 +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
> On Sun, August 26, 2007 17:42, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> [...]
> > or you can install the "msmtp"
> > package which provides a sendmail work-alike that is very easy to
> > configure. Here is an example configuration file (~/.msmtprc):
> >
> > #-------------------------
> > tls on
> > host localhost
> > port 2525
> > from user@server.tld
> > auth on
> > user YOUR_USERNAME
> > password YOUR_PASSWORD
> > #-------------------------
> >
> > Then you can tell mutt to use msmtp by putting
> >
> > set sendmail=3D"/usr/bin/msmtp"
> >
> > into your ~/.muttrc and you should be ready to go.

>=20

> I now get an error message from mutt:

>=20
> Errore nella spedizione del messaggio, il figlio =E8 uscito con 69 (Servi=
ce
> unavailable.)
> which is probably in English
> Error in sending the message, the child process exited with 69 (Service
> unavailable.)
>=20

> and it also relays:
>=20

> msmtp: the server does not support TLS via the STARTTLS command
> msmtp: could not send mail (account default from /home/richard/.msmtprc)
>=20

> I'm guessing the 'server' referred to is the VM. I'll try installing
> msmtp there.

The server in question should be your provider's smarthost; the ssh link =66rom your local computer to your VM should be completely transparent for both mutt and the smarthost. This is probably a simple configuration issue (wrong port on the smarthost, wrong tls settings). It will be easier to figure this out if you install msmtp directly on the VM and try to make it work with mutt running on the VM first. (This eliminates the ssh port-forwarding details as a source of problems.)

Confused? Frustrated?X

Maybe the smarthost does not use TLS (an encryption wrapper) because it is only dealing with internal connections from trusted VMs. I would start simple on the VM, with this ~/.msmtprc: 

#-------------------------

tls off
host FULLY_QUALIFIED_DOMAIN_NAME_OR_IP_OF_SMARTHOST =66rom YOUR_EMAIL_ADDRESS
auth plain
user YOUR_USERNAME
password YOUR_PASSWORD 
#-------------------------

If that does not work then try to use "tls on". If that gives you the same error message then try to add "tls_starttls off" (while keeping "tls on"). You might furthermore have to play around with the "auth" setting; see the manpage of msmtp. What information did your provider give you about the smtp smarthost?

One of these configurations should work unless the smarthost uses a non-standard setup or strange ports. (Normally msmtp can figure out the correct port from the configuration details.) Once you have a working =2Emsmtprc on the VM it should be easy to set it up on the local computer as well. (We may have to adjust the destination port of the ssh port-forwarding command; it could be 465 instead of 25.)

--=20 

Regards,            | 
http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
          Florian   |

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:07:22 +0000 (UTC) From: - Tong - <mlist4suntong@yahoo.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: [OT] low-budget camcorder and avi dvd player 

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Hi,=20

I know there are way too many camcorder types analog/digital, recording media, etc, than I could possibly know. Is there any good site that you recommend for the reading? (I've done googling, no thanks to any googling suggestions)

Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

I'm planning to buy a low-budget (digital) camcorder, as long as I can co= py
the video to my PC, do some minimum transcoding if necessary but definite= ly
not full-fledged fancy transcoding that takes hours to finish, then put t= he
result avi file onto dvd disk, so as to play it on my avi-compatible dvd player.

Is it ever possible? and for low-budget camcorder? I think I must be dreaming to have a ~$100 camcorder + a ~$60 avi-compatible dvd player that can fulfill above, is it?

Sorry for OT.=20
Thanks for any comments.

--=20
Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:35:27 +1000
From: Cameron Hutchison <lists@xdna.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: LVM partition full (was:what is /command directory?) Message-Id: <1188171327.0@orthanc>

"Richard Lyons" <richard@the-place.net> wrote: 

>>>  I also notice a number
>>> of directories I've never heard of before under root:
>>>    command, package, service

>Still, it was late and I was panicking rather unnecessarily.  After
>sleeping on it, I am tending to the view they must be from that tinydns
>episode. I'm going to remove them on that assumption and see what >happens. I never persuaded tinydns to run, so it is no loss.

They will be from tinydns.

Do you need help?X

The /command, /package and /service directories are what Dan Bernstein uses in his software (qmail, djbdns, daemontools, etc). If you dont have any of his software installed, you can safely remove these directories.

DJB software typically has service installation software included and that creates those directories. The debian packages also include a -fhs variant that puts the files in FHS compliant places.

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:08:03 -0700
From: Rogelio Bastardo <scubacuda@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: possible to "apt-get -b source everything" 

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Apologies if this is not the best place to ask this question, but if I've apt-get'd some packages and then later want to recompile those from source (using something like apt-get -b source packagename), is that possible?

And what if I want to do that for everything that I've already downloaded? That is, all of my packages are installed the "normal way" (apt-get install package), and I'd like to, if possible, mass install everything from source.

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:58:16 -0700
From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@u.washington.edu> To: List Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Good fdisk Practices 

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On Aug 25, 2007, at 8:52 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On the other hand, having /boot separate could be more robust in the
> event of an unclean shutdown. The system won't boot at all if the
> kernel file gets corrupted, so having /boot separate, and perhaps
> mounted ro helps protect it.

I suppose, but I've never had an unclean shutdown corrupt a filesystem that wasn't being written to. So I'm not sure if it matters whether it's ro or rw, as long as you aren't writing to it at the time of the crash.

Also, if the root filesystem is corrupt, the system won't boot whether the kernel file is OK or not; you have to get far enough to load init and a shell for anything useful to happen.

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:36:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Hendrik Boom <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xquery 

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:09:20 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:

> There are some links to various java implementation from Wikipedia's=20
> xquery page.

>=20
> http://www.gnu.org/software/qexo/ looks interesting

Yes, quite interesting. Using it got me to the point where I realized th= at
xquery won't do relational joins in practical time and space without optimization. Maybe it's time to look at the source code ...

Can't find what you're looking for?X

Or find another implementation.

  • hendrik

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:36:39 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: books and library inventory 

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On 08/26/07 16:55, H.S. wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:

>> On 08/26/07 14:30, H.S. wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Somebody was asking me earlier today how to set up an electronic
>>> database of a community library with a few hundred books. I just
>>> realized I cannot find much on the web. Perhaps I am not looking for the
>>> right words.
>>> What I have in mind is an open source application that can be used to
>>> keep a database of books and CDROMs in a library and keep track to whom
>>> certain items have been lent out. Any ideas?
>> Did you try Googling:
>>     open +source +library +management

>
> I tried but slightly different words (which did not include managment word).

Ah. You need "management", because "library" is too generic.

This would probably also do the trick

    open +source +book +management 

>> 
http://www.emilda.org/
>> 
http://www.myacpl.org/about/koha
>> 
http://www.koha.org/
>>

>
> Great! This will get me started.
  • -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA
Don't know where to look next?X

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:44:10 +0000
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: LVM partition full (was:what is /command directory?) 

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On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 05:38:27PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
> > I don't see anything here to panic over. If you want to give yourself
> > some more room in /, you could put /tmp on tmpfs as long as you have
> > enough swap already. Then you could delete the LV tmp and reallocate
> > its space to /. Also, your /boot is too big but that's more difficult
> > to change; not impossible.
>
> I've just read the lvm howto and other stuff on 'Changing the Size of
> the LVM-Partitions' -- and I don't like the sound of it a bit. Lots
> of talk of "if something goes wrong", and very complicated. I think
> I'll go back to the old way as soon as I have energy to do the moving.
> There is room on my second hard drive to copy the whole system off,
> repartition the first drive, and copy it back. With boot on a non-LVM
> partition, I assume it will all reboot quite happily afterwards. (Mental
> note: I must remember to remove everything lvm from /etc/rc*.d. before
> rebooting)

>

Here there be dragons. Remember that your initrd will be set up to start your LVM system so that it can find the root device for the kernel. Since I've never had to tweak an initramfs it could get interesting. So with / on LVM, lvm will be started before init even gets a chance to run anything in /etc/rc*.d.

As for LVM being complicated and warnings of "if something goes wrong", remember that you are dealing with your data on disk. A HOWTO for any regular partitioner would also be full of warnings. Be sober and well rested before you touch your partitions of whatever stripe (so to speak). The other thing to remember is that things are layered. You have files in filesystems on logical partitions in volume groups made up of one or more physical volumes. The concept can be complicated but the design of those concepts is well tested in real-life use on many OSs. Linux implimentation of those concepts is somewhat newer but it does work.

However, I do agree that from the user/admin's perspective it is complicated. It offers many advantages to compensate for that. The most obvious is that you do have at your fingertips the ability to tweak the sizes of your partitions which you would not have with normal partitions.

Confused? Frustrated?X

Your choice. Good luck.

Doug.

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:19:45 +0000
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: linux on ipod nano? 

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On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 05:49:00PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:  

> Sounds to me like a text message from a pickpocket. But it seems to
> indicate a problem that prevents unmounting/ejecting the ipod. I
> suppose, therefore that I am risking corrupting the database if I
> unplug it anyway.
 

> It is an ipod nano second series. Any enlightening comments?

                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Can't resit [humour]

Call Pantek today for Open Source Technical Support at 1-877-546-8934 - 24/7/365X

Install Hal.

Open the (i)Pod bay door, hal.

[end humour]

Sorry, I've never even seen an iPod.

Doug.  

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:47:10 +0200
From: Franz Pletz <fpletz@franz-pletz.org> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: linux on ipod nano?
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On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 05:49:00PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
> It is an ipod nano second series. Any enlightening comments?

I can't really tell you what your problem with gpod is, because it works flawlessly with a friend's 2nd gen nano, but I can assure you that neither rockbox nor ipodlinux will work on your 2nd gen nano for now.

Cheers,

    Franz

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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:41:20 +0000
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: books and library inventory 

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On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 03:30:16PM -0400, H.S. wrote:
>
> Somebody was asking me earlier today how to set up an electronic
> database of a community library with a few hundred books. I just
> realized I cannot find much on the web. Perhaps I am not looking for the
> right words.
>
> What I have in mind is an open source application that can be used to
> keep a database of books and CDROMs in a library and keep track to whom
> certain items have been lent out. Any ideas?
>

When I first got married 12 years ago, we lived in a house where we had everything unpacked, including all our books (about 3,000). The we moved to another (smaller) house in the country and the books we didn't use all that much went into cases. I needed a catalog to find them.

So I wrote it from scratch. I used postgresql for the database and included all the usual library fields (author, title, subject, ISBN, dewey, library-of-congress call number, etc), included its physical location. If we lent the book out, we changed its physical location to the name of the person.

Then I wrote a python front-end that presented a dialog GUI.

My books are all in storage in another town now and I don't have the library catalog on my system (it will be in my data archive but its not a simple matter to get it). However, when I get access to my books again, I'll use the postgresql/python app again.

Can we help you?X

So for you, I'd suggest taking a few days and setting it up from scratch. The advantage is that you can start simple and add features as you go. With python, you could even add a web interface.

Doug.

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:54:27 +1000
From: CaT <cat@zip.com.au>
To: Richard Lyons <richard@the-place.net> Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: big brother yahoo 

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On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 04:47:52PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
> So it looks as though they are objecting to Linux per se, rather
> than to the browser.

I'm not sure what url you accessed as you did nto state but watching a video off video.yahoo.com.au wfm using Seamonkey under Debian. 

-- 
    "To the extent that we overreact, we proffer the terrorists the
    greatest tribute."
    	- High Court Judge Michael Kirby

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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:52:50 +0000 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Strange 224.0.0.251 address being accessed on bootup Message-ID: <20070827015250.GE9413@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 10:42:51PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> I've had this problem for a while. When booting Debian Lenny, and perhaps Etch
> as well. When booting up I've had the following output trying to access
> 224.0.0.251.
>
> eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
> NET: Registered protocol family 10
> lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
> lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
> ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
> eth0: no IPv6 routers present
> DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.22 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0
> TTL=1 ID=0 DF OPT (94040000) PROTO=2
> DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.8 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=257 TOS=0x00
> PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=237

>
> According to RFC 3171 this block of addresses (224.0.0.x) is reserved for
> special purposes.
>
> 192.168.0.8 is the static address of my Lenny install, and 224.0.0.251 is the
> mystery address.
>
> There are 2 daemons that are running and looking for a response at bootup.
> Ntpd is directed towards my other machine that is getting it's time from the
> Internet. That is across the LAN, not the Internet. That's not the problem.
>
> The only thing accessing the Internet at boot up is freshclam, and that once
> the ethernet connection is up.
>
It looks like its happening as the ethernet connection comes up. What happens if you ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0 ? Check in /etc/network/if-up.c and /etc/network/if-pre-up.d for anything that may try to run. On my system, shorewall starts immediatly after networking in /etc/rcS.d. I don't know why you appear to be getting errors from a firewall unless your firewall script runs before networking comes up. Since this is all happening in /etc/rcS.d, I'd suggest booting with init=/bin/sh and running the /etc/rcS.d scripts manually one at a time to try to track it down. If you can get a shell while these errors are happening, perhaps you can see what processes are running. Doug.

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:46:29 -0700 From: Paul Scott <paslist@ultrasw.com> To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: xterm won't start Message-ID: <46D23B05.6060306@ultrasw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (Previous version was from unsubscribed email address) Old laptop (i386) running Debian sid. With 2.6.17 stock kernel xterm is fine. Installed 2.6.22 kernel and built module for USB wireless card. Starting xterm gives: xterm: Error 32, errno 2: No such file or directory Reason: get_pty: not enough ptys CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y for both kernels but only: CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS=Y CONFIG_LEGACY_PTY_COUNT+256 is only for the 2.6.17 kernel that works. Other term's don't work either. Googling suggests "MAKEDEV pty" but it's not clear when to do that or what the Debian way is. It also seems that reinstalling some package ought to fix it. TIA for any ideas. Paul Scott End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2256 ************************************************** Received on Sun Aug 26 23:16:46 2007

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