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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2262

Today's Topics: 

  Re: fstab and removable usb drives    [ Roby  ]
  Re: Profile for user and root ( loca  [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  Re: OFF TOPIC--Free software based d  [ "Sudev Barar"  ]
  Cannot open root device "hda1" or un  [ "Francois Duranleau"  ]
  Re: capture real audio stream         [ "Mumia W.."  ]
  Re: Ping my modem........             [ Charlie  ]
  Re: docBook or latex                  [ Miles Bader  ]

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:23:52 -0400
From: Roby <ElectricalSciences@Adelphia.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: fstab and removable usb drives 

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Celejar wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:51:04 -0700 (PDT)
> Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Celejar wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm experimenting with fstab lines to streamline mounting my removable
>> > usb drives (flash and HDD). I have tried 'UUID-xxxx', 'LABEL-xxxx',
>> > and '/dev/disk/by-label/xxxx', but with any of these the system refuses
>> > to boot without manual intervention when the drive isn't attached (I am
>> > told to hit <ctrl>-D and something about maintenance mode). This
>> > occurs even when I set 'noauto'. Am I missing something, or are such
>> > fstab lines really illegal for setups where the volume may not be
>> > attached at boot?
>> >
>> > Celejar
>> > --
>>
>> Hm, noauto should skip it at boot. On one of my laptops I have this:
>> /dev/disk/by-id/xxxxxx /mnt/flash vfat user,noauto 0 0
>>
>> Boots up just fine..
>
> Thanks; I don't know what could be different about my setup (I'm
> running uptodate Sid), but it doesn't work for me, as above.
>
> Celejar

I'm also running up-to-date Sid. Here are my fstab entries of interest: 

/dev/disk/by-label/PEN      /media/pen       vfat  noauto,users  0 0 

Do you need more help?X

/dev/disk/by-label/usb-80   /media/usb-80    ext3  noauto,users  0 0
/dev/disk/by-label/usb-160  /media/usb-160   ext3  noauto,users  0 0
Do you need help?X

I rarely have the pen drive or usb HD's plugged in at boot. No problems with this on five machines. The error message you report sounds a lot like what is issued when fsck fails.

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:50:15 -0400
From: "Francois Duranleau" <xiao.bai.xiong@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0,0) 

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On 8/25/07, Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com> wrote:
> Francois
>
> Just looked at the config file you listed for the 2.1.18 kernel.
> It looks different then mine in the Block Device section.
>
> # Block devices
> #
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=m
> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
> # CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
> # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set
> # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set
> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set
> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UMEM is not set
> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_COW_COMMON is not set
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CRYPTOLOOP=m
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD=m
> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SX8 is not set
> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UB is not set
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_COUNT=16
 > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=4096
 > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_BLOCKSIZE=1024
 > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y
> CONFIG_CDROM_PKTCDVD=y
> CONFIG_CDROM_PKTCDVD_BUFFERS=8
 > CONFIG_CDROM_PKTCDVD_WCACHE=y
> # CONFIG_ATA_OVER_ETH is not set
>
> This is from the /boot/config-2.6.18y that does not use initrd. Maybe
> you could try adding some of these to your 2.6.18 config file.

I tried (I uploaded the new config file: http://www-etud.iro.umontreal.ca/~duranlef/linux-config/), same thing. Now I am trying to do as Bert Schulze suggested me, but I am struggling with my packages because my dependencies are broken down because I can't upgrade to the new libc6 package (which requires 2.6).

One thing though, I tried to boot my system with a Debian Live CD and I had no problems. I could even mount the filesystems from the hard drive. So there must be something to be done (aside from reinstalling from scratch, which I am trying to avoid). 

-- 
Francois

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:08:59 -0400 From: Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: capture real audio stream Message-ID: <20070828010859.GC26609@nitpicking.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 09:24:55PM +0200, Joachim Fahnenm?ller wrote:
> You can find out <address> in realplayer by clicking file -> properties -> clip
> source
> or in iceweasel by right click on the page -> page info, tab media.
I'm curious what extension gives you that. It sure isn't available in my Iceweasel. (I use Unplug to get video urls, myself.) -- Carl Fink nitpicking@nitpicking.com Read my blog at nitpickingblog.blogspot.com. Reviews! Observations! Stupid mistakes you can correct!

Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:19:55 +0000 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Profile for user and root ( locales ) Message-ID: <20070828011955.GA7082@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 03:35:33PM +0200, Vladimir Strycek wrote:
>
> any idea where alse is setting for each user in bash ? i have small
> problem that when i log in to my debian box as user everything works
> great especialy the special character of Slovak language also MC looks
> fine etc... but when i su to root the special characters do not work
> anymore... when i turn on MC its has some wird characters insted of
> lines on borders etc... i look in /etc/profile but nothing there to
> explain it also in .bashrc and .bash_profile to find out why in user it
> works fine and at root it doesnt diplay correctly.
>
> Any idea where else could be som config file which determine what
> localles are used for user ?
As the working user and as root run env and compare so you know exactly what differences you're looking for. Then check both the user's and root's .bash*, but also check the /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/provfile in case there's any logic in those that looks at the user (as it does to set the prompt). The system's default locale is set under /etc/default. Doug.

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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:22:27 +0000 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: docBook or latex Message-ID: <20070828012227.GB7082@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 03:25:53PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2007-08-27 13:15:01 +0000, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > Considering that this is exactly what latex was designed for, I would
> > use latex. AFAIK, docbook is designed for creating manuals that can be
> > turned into ps, pdf, text, or html without using external packages or
> > requiring a huge meta-package install. Since there are readily
> > available (as debian packages) ways to turn latex into html, I use latex
> > for everything.
>
> All of them I tried produce bad HTML.
I haven't done much, but when I did I used Tex4ht. If it matters, I'm using texlive. Doug.

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:53:34 -0400 From: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: docBook or latex Message-ID: <favuuf$sab$1@sea.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit abdelkader belahcene wrote:
> Hi,
> I want to write big document (say reports) ( sometimes with math
> symboles and functions, not always).
> Which is better and in which cases, I have to use docbook or latex??
>
These days I am using texmacs for anything that I previously used to do with latex. The quality of the output is also on par with latex + it provides a nice WYSIWYG kind of environment. You can convert the final .tm file into any of .pdf, .ps, .html, .tex etc., If you want to try it out, I suggest you start out with version 1.0.6.10 (the one in unstable) than with version 1.0.6. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:35:36 -0500 From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris@oplink.net> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: docBook or latex Message-ID: <20070828013536.GA4584@oplink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline * Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> [070827 20:28]:
>On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 03:25:53PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>> On 2007-08-27 13:15:01 +0000, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>>> ... Since there are readily
>>> available (as debian packages) ways to turn latex into html, I use latex
>>> for everything.
>>
>> All of them I tried produce bad HTML.
After trying every converter I could find, I discovered HeVeA. HeVeA takes LaTeX files and produces beautiful HTML, with much less hassle than any of the other solutions which I found. HeVeA handles LaTeX documents with complex formatting, including footnotes; it appears to be in a category by itself. HeVeA comes with an excellent manual. RLH

Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:41:38 +0000 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: SATA vs PATA Message-ID: <20070828014138.GC7082@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:13:33AM -0700, cls@truffula.sj.ca.us wrote:
> The instantaneous peak throughput of the original
> (four bytes wide, 33 MHz) PCI bus is 132 MB/sec. In real life
> you're not going to see over 90. So a SATA-II controller
> on a regular PCI card is bottlenecked at the motherboard slot.
> (So is 1000BASE-T Ethernet.) That's one reason "real hardware"
> RAID works better than "fakeraid."
> The smallest PCI Express (PCI-E) configuration should do 250 MB/sec
> in each direction simultaneously. A motherboard with PCI-E
> designed for workstations may bottleneck at the southbridge.
>
> You'll have to do some research to find a configuration that
> can run two SATA-II drives simultaneously at their full data rate.
> You'll also have to check around to see if the Linux driver knows
> how to run any particular controller in SATA-II mode.
> And there are still lots of workstation type motherboards that only
> do SATA-I.
My Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 MB with Athlon64 3800+ CPU has 6 SATA-II ports with the nVidia chipset and one internal and one external eSATA with an addition chip (JMicron?) on the MB as well. Here's some lines from my dmesg: ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x9F0 ctl 0xBF2 bmdma 0xE000 irq 58 ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300) ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x9E0 ctl 0xBE2 bmdma 0xCC00 irq 66 ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300) ahci 0000:06:00.0: AHCI 0001.0000 32 slots 2 ports 3 Gbps 0x3 impl SATA mode ata7: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xFFFFC20000040100 ctl 0x0 bmdma 0x0 irq 74 ata8: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xFFFFC20000040180 ctl 0x0 bmdma 0x0 irq 74 I don't have hdparm installed and I don't have any real way of testing the throughput easily right now. Len Sorensen on debian-amd64 yesterday went through the math on SATA speed, PCI-e speed, CPU bus speed, etc. Check the archives and review that. The upshot was that a hardware raid card makes sense if you're going to do raid5 and you get a card good enought that it can beat the CPU at the game. Likely, this means a PCI-e x8 card (3Com was mentioned) that you can attach to the spare x16 slot (intended for the second video card in an SLI setup). Other than this case, it probably doesn't warrant a raid card; if you really need that kind of I/O throughput you're probably looking at server hardware that uses SAS instead of SATA. Although, according to wikipedia, a SAS enclosure can use SATA drives in some kind of compatibility mode. In any event, if you're choosing between PATA and SATA, go with SATA unless: 1. performance isn't an issue 2. you can get a huge deal on a good PATA drive. Doug.

Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:26:36 +1200 From: Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: LVM partition full (was:what is /command directory?) Message-Id: <1188264397.21141.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 09:02 -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
> Shrinking a logical volume, though...that's full of pitfalls. I've
> gotten bitten repeatedly by the fact that resize2fs and LVM's tools
> apparently don't do math the same way when calculating sizes,
> especially if you use human-readable units. I now avoid shrinking
> logical volumes unless I have an automated tool to do it for me,
> because I have never found a safe way to do it manually.
The way I was told to do it, and which seems to work ok: 1. Shrink the fs to significantly smaller than the final desired size 2. Shrink the LV to the desired size 3. Grow the fs to fill the LV I guess that could be a problem if the desired size is very close to the amount of data already in the filesystem, but other than that it seems to work. Richard

Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:53:26 +0000 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Strange 224.0.0.251 address being accessed on bootup Message-ID: <20070828015326.GD7082@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 04:28:48PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Monday 27 August 2007 03:52, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> > Since this is all happening in /etc/rcS.d, I'd suggest booting with
> > init=/bin/sh and running the /etc/rcS.d scripts manually one at a time
> > to try to track it down. If you can get a shell while these errors are
> > happening, perhaps you can see what processes are running.
>
> I havn't tried that before. Is that going to be similar to the interactive
> boot up that you can do on Fedora?
> >
I've never used Fedora. There's nothing interactive about it. When you init=/bin/sh, you get sh running instead of init. The only drive mounted is the / and its ro. So you cd to /etc/rcS.d, do an ls and write down all the file names so you can tick them off as you run them. #less README read it.. Then, one at a time, type e.g.: #./S01glibc.sh start #./S02hostname.sh start You're sort-of single-stepping the init process to track down a problem. Once you have, try to fix it and then shutdown. Since init normally does this, I wouldn't want to try to bring the system all the way up in this manner. Doug.

Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:17:00 +0000 From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: MSI nVidia NX7600GT-T2D256E Message-ID: <20070828021700.GF7082@titan.hooton> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 06:36:18PM +0100, Tim Day wrote:
> A few days ago I reverted to the "nv" driver and so far so good (it's
> still a bit early to be sure though though). Interestingly, the
> occasional APIC error I used to see in dmesg (a couple a day at most?)
> seems to have dried up.
>
> Any hints for how to get any useful debug information out of the system
> when such hangs occur ? I have an idea you can do something involving
> attaching a serial cable and monitoring from another machine (any
> pointers to a howto ?)
You mean that the system has totally hung and you can't ssh into it (its not just the keyboard and display that's frozen)? Check out the Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO in the standard doc-linux-html package. That plus the Serial-HOWTO and the Text-Terminal-HOWTO should get you up and running. If you're wanting to monitor it at a distance, you may want the modem howto. In any event, you'll need the correct cable. The howto's cover this. You need to ensure that kernel messages are going to the console. Check /etc/sysctl.conf that you don't have the kernel.printk parameter set. Then you get the actual serial setup as per the HOWTOS. While you're at it, set up a getty in case you can get into the system that way. On the other end, you can use minicom to connect. However, if you just want long-term logging of the console messages, don't use a getty on the target box and use ttylog, perhaps teeing it to a file and the your screen. Good luck, Doug.

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:19:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0,0) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0708271913330.19542@proto.technobounce.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Francois Duranleau wrote:
> On 8/25/07, Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com> wrote:
>> Francois
>>
>> Just looked at the config file you listed for the 2.1.18 kernel.
>> It looks different then mine in the Block Device section.
>>
>> # Block devices
>> #
>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=m
>> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
>> # CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
>> # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set
>> # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set
>> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set
>> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UMEM is not set
>> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_COW_COMMON is not set
>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CRYPTOLOOP=m
>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD=m
>> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SX8 is not set
>> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UB is not set
>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_COUNT=16
>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=4096
>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_BLOCKSIZE=1024
>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y
>> CONFIG_CDROM_PKTCDVD=y
>> CONFIG_CDROM_PKTCDVD_BUFFERS=8
>> CONFIG_CDROM_PKTCDVD_WCACHE=y
>> # CONFIG_ATA_OVER_ETH is not set
>>
>> This is from the /boot/config-2.6.18y that does not use initrd. Maybe
>> you could try adding some of these to your 2.6.18 config file.
>
> I tried (I uploaded the new config file:
> http://www-etud.iro.umontreal.ca/~duranlef/linux-config/), same thing.
> Now I am trying to do as Bert Schulze suggested me, but I am
> struggling with my packages because my dependencies are broken down
> because I can't upgrade to the new libc6 package (which requires 2.6).
>
> One thing though, I tried to boot my system with a Debian Live CD and
> I had no problems. I could even mount the filesystems from the hard
> drive. So there must be something to be done (aside from reinstalling
> from scratch, which I am trying to avoid).
>
> --
> Francois
>
One thing that kinda stands out to me in the 2.6 config are: CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=m CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=m I'd change those to be compiled in rather than modules. -+- 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Techno.

Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:53:44 +0530 From: "Sudev Barar" <sbarar@gmail.com> To: "Debian Users" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC--Free software based domain hosting? Message-ID: <774593a20708271923y72c6b61euf7e6123c1e4ed802@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 27/08/07, Nate Bargmann <n0nb@networksplus.net> wrote:
> So, is there a reasonably priced hoster/registrar based solely on Free
> Software? Or, are all of these traits mutually exclusive?
I use mediatemple.net -- Regards, Sudev Barar See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology & software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:01:06 -0400 From: "Francois Duranleau" <xiao.bai.xiong@gmail.com> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0,0) Message-ID: <8eb883950708272001y7c09c05dt27fc156cc7d427ca@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 8/24/07, Bert Schulze <potassium.xyanide@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I took a look at your config and menu.lst
> So whats missing seems to be an initrd image which holds all the
> modules your kernel needs. Your config uses some of em. You should
> build the initrd
> mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18 2.6.18
> and
> update-grub
Success!!! After struggling with manual packages installation, I could run those commands and finally successfully reboot the computer in 2.6.18! One thing though, I had several messages about an '-F' invalid option when I ran 'mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18 2.6.18', but everything seems okay this far. Thank you all for your help! -- Francois -- Francois

Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:21:53 +1000 From: Charlie <ariestao@clearmail.com.au> To: "Debian-user" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Ping my modem........ Message-Id: <200708281321.53573.ariestao@clearmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Never having used ping, and not really understanding the man page for it:- When I ping my modem: what command/option/s should I use? Is the following a normal reply from a satellite modem to ping:- ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted TIA, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ After the ecstasy, the laundry. -------- ZEN SAYING <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debian - Just the best way to do magic.

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:02:39 -0500 From: "Mumia W.." <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: capture real audio stream Message-ID: <46D3904F.3030806@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 08/27/2007 08:08 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 09:24:55PM +0200, Joachim Fahnenm?ller wrote:
>
>> You can find out <address> [...]
>> in iceweasel by right click on the page -> page info, tab media.
>
> I'm curious what extension gives you that. It sure isn't available in my
> Iceweasel. (I use Unplug to get video urls, myself.)
In Iceweasel try Tools-> Page Info-> Media. It's definitely there in Firefox 2.0, and Iceweasel is Firefox 2.0.

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:25:50 -0400 From: "Francois Duranleau" <xiao.bai.xiong@gmail.com> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0,0) Message-ID: <8eb883950708272025j67185c14k1e8f298b983031c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 8/27/07, Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> One thing that kinda stands out to me in the 2.6 config are:
> CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=m
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=m
>
> I'd change those to be compiled in rather than modules.
Yes. There were set as modules for some experiments regarding CRC errors (see http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/08/msg00252.html and the rest of the thread). -- Francois

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:33:18 -0500 From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> To: Debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Ping my modem........ Message-ID: <46D3977E.6080508@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/27/07 22:21, Charlie wrote:
> Never having used ping, and not really understanding the man page for it:-
>
> When I ping my modem:
>
> what command/option/s should I use?
> Is the following a normal reply from a satellite modem to ping:-
>
> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
What's a *satellite* modem? Are you referring to POTS modem, cable modem or ADSL modem? Broadband *modems* do not have IP addresses. (But they do have MAC addresses.) Only if it is a combo modem-router will it have an IP address. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG05d+S9HxQb37XmcRAl6gAKC9WDrfNx+1jdGJJZfQuRCz50z6UgCeOlLV PUF7nvX6BhpLu/1FRk7FVIk= =USeV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:42:41 +1000 From: Charlie <ariestao@clearmail.com.au> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Ping my modem........ Message-Id: <200708281442.41648.ariestao@clearmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 28 August 2007 13:33, Ron Johnson shared this with us all:
>--} On 08/27/07 22:21, Charlie wrote:
>--} > Never having used ping, and not really understanding the man page for
> it:- --} >
>--} > When I ping my modem:
>--} >
>--} > what command/option/s should I use?
>--} > Is the following a normal reply from a satellite modem to ping:-
>--} >
>--} > ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
>--} > ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
>--} > ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
>--} > ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
>--} > ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
>--}
>--} What's a *satellite* modem?
>--}
>--} Are you referring to POTS modem, cable modem or ADSL modem?
>--}
>--} Broadband *modems* do not have IP addresses. (But they do have MAC
>--} addresses.) Only if it is a combo modem-router will it have an IP
>--} address.
A modem that connects to the Ipstar satellite for the Internet connection, through a satellite dish on my roof. I suppose the don't have these sort of things other than in the bush of Australia. But thanks anyway. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My facts shall be falsehoods to the common sense. I would so state facts that they shall be significant, shall be myths or mythologies. Facts which the mind perceived, thoughts which the body thought -- with these I deal. .............................Henry David Thoreau <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debian - Just the best way to do magic.

Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:28:34 +0900 From: Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: docBook or latex Message-Id: <buo64301dvx.fsf@dhapc248.dev.necel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca> writes:
> AFAIK, docbook is designed for creating manuals that can be
> turned into ps, pdf, text, or html without using external packages or
> requiring a huge meta-package install.
Docbook also seems to have been designed by masochists.... it's so horribly verbose that I can't imagine how people put up with maintaining documents written using it. It's as if the creators got so carried away adding features that they completely forgot about basic usability. Latex, for all it's (many) faults, does at least try to cater to the author. -Miles -- 97% of everything is grunge End of debian-user-digest Digest V2007 Issue #2262 ************************************************** Received on Tue Aug 28 01:06:39 2007

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