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debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #2280

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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2280

Today's Topics: 

  configuration center in debian?       [ "Johann Horwath"  ]
  Re: CTRL-D needed                     [ Ron Johnson  ]
  AW: configuration center in debian?   [ "Johann Horwath"  ]
  Configuration center                  [ Eeltje  ]
  kde panels !                          [ Rick  ]
  Re: All New rc2.d Scripts get Ignore  [ Martin McCormick 

Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:59:42 +0200


From: "Johann Horwath" <j.horwath@salk.at>
To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>


Subject: configuration center in debian?
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hello,



is there something like a gui-configuration-center (bootloader, network,
software-(de)installation,...) in debian?


Do you need help?X

greetings


hans

 



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:16:26 -0400


From: "Roberto D'Oliveira" <rcdeoliveira@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: configuration center in debian?

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2007/8/30, Johann Horwath <j.horwath@salk.at>:

> hello,
>
> is there something like a gui-configuration-center (bootloader, network,
> software-(de)installation,...) in debian?
>
> greetings
> hans
>
>
>
>
> --
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
>
>

If you want something like a "centralized control center" you can try
with webmin : http://www.webmin.com/


-- 
Saludos,
Roberto D'Oliveira


Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:36:18 -0400
From: Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Garmin GPS on USB port
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Bernard(bernard.fay@gmail.com) is reported to have said:

> On 8/29/07, Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 09:16:14PM -0400, Bernard wrote:
> > >
> > > I try to communicate with my GPS via a USB port but without success.  I
> > used
> > > to do it with a serial connection without problem.  Eventually, I will
> > have
> > > to plug my GPS on a laptop with USB port only so I have to find a
> > solution.
> > > According to a few things read on the web I have to load the garmin_gps
> > > module.  I did it with succes but the documentation found said to use
> > > /dev/ttyUSB? which device I don't have.  Maybe I still have a few things
> > to
> > > understand about the USB devices and udev!
> > >
> > > I would like to know if someone have been able to communicate with a
> > Garmin
> > > GPS via a USB port and how you did it.  Or maybe someone with a good
> > > understanding of USB and udev could help me understand what is going on
> > and
> > > what I should do to make it work.
> >
> > Your documentation may not have taken udev into account.  Assuming that
> > you're using standard Etch, run tail -f /var/log/syslog and then plug in
> > the gps and see if a message appears that tells you what device it
> > connects to.  I've never hooked my GPS up to the computer.  However, for
> > comparison, my Palm comes up as something like /dev/pilot.
> >
> > Doug.
> 
> 
> Ok, here is what I got from syslog:
> 
> Aug 29 21:53:15 zherc kernel: usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 3
> Aug 29 21:53:28 zherc kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using
> uhci_hcd and address 4
> Aug 29 21:53:28 zherc kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> 
> Do you seen something useful from this?


Here is what syslog shows when I plug in my usb GPS puck.
Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: usb 1-5.4: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: usb 1-5.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: pl2303 1-5.4:1.0: pl2303 converter detected
Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: usb 1-5.4: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0

Try doing a modprobe ehci_hcd _before_ you plug the Garmin in.

lsusb here shows
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303
Serial Port
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05e3:0702 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 2.0 IDE
Adapter
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0606 Genesys Logic, Inc.

Wayne

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:44:39 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: CTRL-D needed
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On 08/30/07 08:40, michael bailey wrote:

>  The stable release of Etch has recently been
> installed on an old Abit BE6 II motherboard. The
> previous system run on this board was a 2.4 Sarge.
> 
>  Whenever, Etch is booted, the boot stops at several
> points, saying CTRL-D is needede to continue the boot.
>  This has not happened on the Sarge system.
> 
>  Any reasons for the change in boot procedure ?


At which point is it pausing?

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:45:46 +0200
From: "Johann Horwath" <j.horwath@salk.at>
To: "'Roberto D'Oliveira'" <rcdeoliveira@gmail.com>
Cc: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: AW: configuration center in debian?
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thank you roberto for your tip - i think most of my wishes are fulfilled =
now
:-)

exept: starting/stopping/configuring wifi/bluetooth and configuring
x-server. i didn't see a module in webmin during my quick-search.=20

is there some gui-thing for those jobs?

greetings
hans
=20



> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Roberto D'Oliveira [mailto:rcdeoliveira@gmail.com]=20
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. August 2007 16:16
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Betreff: Re: configuration center in debian?
>=20
>=20
> 2007/8/30, Johann Horwath <j.horwath@salk.at>:
> > hello,
> >
> > is there something like a gui-configuration-center=20
> (bootloader, network,
> > software-(de)installation,...) in debian?
> >
> > greetings
> > hans
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
> > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact=20
> listmaster@lists.debian.org
> >
> >
>=20
> If you want something like a "centralized control center" you can try
> with webmin : http://www.webmin.com/
>=20
> --=20
> Saludos,
> Roberto D'Oliveira
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org=20
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> listmaster@lists.debian.org
>=20
Do you need more help?X

Date:  Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:52:35 -0500
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: konsole + system bell
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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 12:48:41PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>  >
>>> Unfortunatly for you, the computer that I'm directly attached to me is
>>> on the floor below (monitor, keyboard, and mouse cables run through the
>>> floor) so I can only hear the beep if the room is quiet.  It is noisy
>>> right now.  Perhaps you will have some luck.
>> That's an interesting hookup: I'd like that, but where do you get the 
>> mon/mouse/kbd cables that long? I'd put the noise in the next room here :-)
>>
>  
> 10' extension cords.  The box in on a shelf half-way up the wall
> directly below my mini-desk in the living room.  Makes for a totally
> silent operation even though the hostname on the box is 'rocky' since
> its fan sounds like a gravel truck.  Its a P-II given away because if
> was full (as in packed) of cat hair; messed up the CPU fan bearings
> among other things.
> 


Too bad I already ordered from Newegg. Found 16ft vga + USB + kbd 
extenders. But I did not come across audio cable extenders for that size.

Hugo



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:53:36 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: AW: configuration center in debian?
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On 08/30/07 09:45, Johann Horwath wrote:

> thank you roberto for your tip - i think most of my wishes are fulfille=

d now

> :-)
>=20
> exept: starting/stopping/configuring wifi/bluetooth and configuring
> x-server. i didn't see a module in webmin during my quick-search.=20
>=20
> is there some gui-thing for those jobs?


I hear that Ubuntu has some great point-and-drool tools.


>=20
>> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Roberto D'Oliveira [mailto:rcdeoliveira@gmail.com]=20
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. August 2007 16:16
>> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Betreff: Re: configuration center in debian?
>>
>>
>> 2007/8/30, Johann Horwath <j.horwath@salk.at>:
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> is there something like a gui-configuration-center=20
>> (bootloader, network,
>>> software-(de)installation,...) in debian?
>>>
>>> greetings
>>> hans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
>>> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact=20
>> listmaster@lists.debian.org
>>>
>> If you want something like a "centralized control center" you can try
>> with webmin : http://www.webmin.com/
>>
>> --=20
>> Saludos,
>> Roberto D'Oliveira
>>
>>
>> --=20
>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org=20
>> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact=20
>> listmaster@lists.debian.org
>>
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- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:01:50 +0200 (CEST)
From: Eeltje <eeltje_de_vries@hotmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Configuration center
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It depends on your Window manager. Are you using KDE, Gnome or whatever?
--=20
Eeltje de Vries



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:33:14 +0200
From: "Johann Horwath" <j.horwath@salk.at>
To: "'Ron Johnson'" <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
Cc: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: AW: AW: configuration center in debian?
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hi ron,

knowing all the - heavy - discussions about ubuntu versus debian i =
really
want to stay with debian. ;-)

are those tools only available in/for ubuntu? where do i get them?

greetings
hans

=20



> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Ron Johnson [mailto:ron.l.johnson@cox.net]=20
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. August 2007 16:54
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Betreff: Re: AW: configuration center in debian?
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> On 08/30/07 09:45, Johann Horwath wrote:
> > thank you roberto for your tip - i think most of my wishes=20
> are fulfilled now
> > :-)
> >=20
> > exept: starting/stopping/configuring wifi/bluetooth and configuring
> > x-server. i didn't see a module in webmin during my quick-search.=20
> >=20
> > is there some gui-thing for those jobs?
>=20
> I hear that Ubuntu has some great point-and-drool tools.
>=20
> >=20
> >> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: Roberto D'Oliveira [mailto:rcdeoliveira@gmail.com]=20
> >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. August 2007 16:16
> >> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >> Betreff: Re: configuration center in debian?
> >>
> >>
> >> 2007/8/30, Johann Horwath <j.horwath@salk.at>:
> >>> hello,
> >>>
> >>> is there something like a gui-configuration-center=20
> >> (bootloader, network,
> >>> software-(de)installation,...) in debian?
> >>>
> >>> greetings
> >>> hans
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
> >>> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact=20
> >> listmaster@lists.debian.org
> >>>
> >> If you want something like a "centralized control center"=20
> you can try
> >> with webmin : http://www.webmin.com/
> >>
> >> --=20
> >> Saludos,
> >> Roberto D'Oliveira
> >>
> >>
> >> --=20
> >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org=20
> >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact=20
> >> listmaster@lists.debian.org
> >>
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> - --
> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson LA  USA
>=20
> Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
> Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:40:57 +0200
From: Bonnel Christophe <mage.tophinus@free.fr>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Better iptables firewall
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Personally, lesser is your configuration, better is your security. Here=20
is my config :

iptables -t filter -F
iptables -t filter -X
iptables -t filter -P INPUT DROP
iptables -t filter -P OUTPUT DROP
iptables -t filter -P FORWARD DROP
iptables -t filter -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEP=
T
iptables -t filter -A INPUT -i lo -s 127.0.0.0/8 -d 127.0.0.0/8 -m state=20
--state ! INVALID -j ACCEPT
iptables -t filter -A OUTPUT -m state --state ! INVALID -j ACCEPT

You can also add a commented line to accept icmp, just in case you have=20
problem to connect to network. In this case, comment out the line and=20
relaunch your firewall. When you have solved the connexion problem,=20
re-comment the icmp line and relaunch your firewall
#iptables -t filter -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT

Hope this helps.
Christophe


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> Currently I'm using iptables as my main firewall, and I'm having no
> trouble with it whatsoever. But lately (Since college has started) I've
> been connecting to a lot more networks, with more peers connected. I'm
> worried about somebody breaking through the security on my laptop and
> doing something malicious.
>
> I'm hoping some seasoned Debian sysadmins out there can help me by
> advising me on how to better setup iptables...My current setup is:
>
>
> # Generated by iptables-save v1.3.6 on Mon Jun 18 09:55:18 2007
> *filter
> :INPUT DROP [0:0]
> :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0]
> :OUTPUT ACCEPT [35639:3072343]
> - -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
> - -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
> - -A INPUT -p icmp -m limit --limit 1/sec -j ACCEPT
> - -A INPUT -p icmp -j DROP
> #-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5030 -j ACCEPT
> #-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT
> #-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 15000 -j ACCEPT
> COMMIT
> # Completed on Mon Jun 18 09:55:18 2007
>
> The commented rules are uncommented in my ruleset for home (I only have
> those ports forwarded on my home router, so opening them outside is a=20
> potential security hazard)
>
> - --=20
> If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative
> programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they
> restrict the use of these programs.=20
>  - Richard Stallman
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:47:36 +0200
From: "Johann Horwath" <j.horwath@salk.at>
To: "'Eeltje'" <eeltje_de_vries@hotmail.com>
Cc: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: AW: Configuration center
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i want to use mostly kde but also gnome.

hans

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> Von: Eeltje [mailto:eeltje_de_vries@hotmail.com]=20
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. August 2007 17:02
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Betreff: Configuration center
>=20
>=20
>=20
> It depends on your Window manager. Are you using KDE, Gnome=20
> or whatever?
> --=20
> Eeltje de Vries
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:51:15 -0500
From: Kent West <westk@acu.edu>
To: debian users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: X config issues
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With one of the newer updates to X, Xinerama became problematic with an 
Intel video chipset, which broke my dual-monitor setup (the second video 
card is nVidia-based). After months of living without my dual-monitor 
setup to which I had become accustomed, I finally snagged another 
nVidia-based PCI cards that I threw in my box. After running "X 
-configure", I got a new almost working xorg.conf file; I had to remove 
any references to the Intel chipset and it's matching non-existent 
monitor, and maybe a couple of other small tweaks, to end up with the 
following:

===

westk[@westek]:/home/westk:> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "X.org Configured"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
        Screen      1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
        Option         "Xinerama"
EndSection

Section "Files"
        RgbPath      "/etc/X11/rgb"
        ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
        FontPath     "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "dri"
        Load  "GLcore"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "xtrap"
        Load  "extmod"
        Load  "dbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "auto"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "VSC"
        ModelName    "G220fb"
 ### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC:
        HorizSync    30.0 - 110.0
        VertRefresh  50.0 - 180.0
        Option      "DPMS"
        Option      "TargetRefresh"     "75"
        DisplaySize  400   300  # mm
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor1"
        VendorName   "GWY"
        ModelName    "VX1110"
 ### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC:
        HorizSync    31.0 - 115.0
        VertRefresh  50.0 - 160.0
        Option      "DPMS"
        Option      "TargetRefresh"     "75"
        DisplaySize  400   300  # mm
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "nv"
        VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
        BoardName   "NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440]"
        BusID       "PCI:1:8:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Card1"
        Driver      "nv"
        VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
        BoardName   "NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440]"
        BusID       "PCI:1:7:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     1
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     4
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     8
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     15
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     16
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen1"
        Device     "Card1"
        Monitor    "Monitor1"
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     1
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     4
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     8
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     15
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     16
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

===

My problem is that X seems to completely ignore my desire to set my DPI 
to 96 via the DisplaySize setting of 400x300mms. Instead, xdpyinfo reports:

<snip>
screen #0:
  dimensions:    3456x1392 pixels (876x353 millimeters)
  resolution:    100x100 dots per inch
  depths (7):    24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
<snip>

/var/log/Xorg.0.log is perusable at http://www.acu.edu/~westk/Xorg.0.log

Any clues would be appreciated.

-- 
Kent



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:53:09 -0400
From: Rick <cms0009@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: kde panels !
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have the typical kde panel below to launch my apps, and applets, virtual 
desktop.... HOWEVER, its getting crowded... I would like to do the 
following "IF Possible"

is there a way to add a new panel, and have it display only "Open Windows or 
Open Apps"... again, the original panel is very crowded,
and I would like to move ALL "Open Windows" Open Browsers..and Open Apps...
to that New panel, and have that New panel just display those item only.

Thanks -
Richard


Can we help you?X

Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:53:42 -0500
From: Martin McCormick <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: All New rc2.d Scripts get Ignored. Debian from KNOPPIX 
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Bob McGowan writes:

> During startup, /etc/inittab uses the /etc/init.d/rc script to run the
> various scripts in the rc?.d directories. It has a commented out line for
> debugging. If you uncomment it, from what I can see, it will tell you what
> it's doing. It looks like this will propagate to the scripts that it runs,
> so you may expect to see a lot of stuff printed during boot.


	This turns out to be an extremely useful thing to know.
What actually happens, however, is the script doesn't execute
the starts and stops but echoes what it would have done. You can
run it that way even after the system is fully booted. You just
call it and supply the runlevel number as the first argument to
get some idea of what it is thinking. Of course, it works
perfectly every time and calls all existing scripts in the right
order.

	What I don't have is a log of any rc2.d activity. I
think it all goes to the screen very fast. As a computer user
who happens to be blind, this isn't much use, but these things
usually go too fast for anybody to read.

	On some UNIX systems, such messages as "Starting secure
shell," etc, are logged as the daemons fire up. On this system,
/etc/init.d/ssh does, in fact, echo such a message but that's
one of the 2 scripts I can't get to start during boot. Something
is still happening to those 2 scripts when the sequence reaches
them and there is no log trace anywhere as to what it was.

	As I originally said, Oralux is a KNOPPIX distribution
but can be installed as Debian on the hard disk.

	Can anybody think of any way to add enough verbosity to
the logging of the boot process to try to trap what is not
happening?

	The other interesting thing I have noticed about this
system is that it doesn't log any ALSA messages about what sound
card is in use, etc. The sound does appear to be in working
order as aplay and the speech synthesizer both work (not at the
same time because of the sound card.)

	When I usually install Linux, I use a serial console.
That is not an option as there are no native serial ports on
this system. I need every screen message to go to a file
somewhere and that may tell me something new.

	I think when I finally fix the problem, I will have
learned a lot, but I've been about 2 minutes from solving it for
the last 5 days.:-)

Martin McCormick

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