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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2282

Today's Topics: 

  Re: NetworkManager help, esp. after   [ Jesse Sheidlower  ]
  Re: ssh-agent (was: using a remote I  [ Richard Lyons  ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ Hal Vaughan  ]
  Re: How to bind keys to commands, wi  [ Celejar  ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ Ron Johnson  ]
  question about DROP in NIC interface  [ ann kok  ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ Hal Vaughan  ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ Sarunas Burdulis  ]
  Re: vdrift package                    [ Rody  ]
  how find postscript for a Unicode ch  [ Hendrik Boom 

Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:04:18 -0400


From: Jesse Sheidlower <jester@panix.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: NetworkManager help, esp. after suspend

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Do you need help?X



On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 12:49:46AM +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 18:19 -0400, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
> > 
> > I'm a relatively new Debian user, running an up-to-date Etch on
> > a ThinkPad T60.
> Welcome. I am running Debian on a T60 as well and am very pleased with 
> it so far.
> 
> I guess you know http://thinkwiki.org ? It is a great source for 
> thinkpad related informations.

Yes, I've found it very useful in general, esp. when I was installing,
though it didn't have anything helpful for this.


> > I'm having some trouble getting the NetworkManager app to work
> [ ... nm not working properly ... ]
> > Is there anything I should be doing differently? The docs on
> > NetworkManager are pretty slim. If it works as advertised it
> > would be really convenient, but I do need to be able to come
> > out of a suspend a join a network immediately.
> 
> Try editing /etc/hibernate/common.conf and uncomment
> 
>     ### networkmanager
>     EnableNMReconnect yes
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Do you need more help?X

I didn't have this line in that file, and it's not documented in
hibernate.conf.


> that might do the trick. That said it is not always working and i have 
> to click "Enable Networking" twice after wake-up occasionally. 
> 
> You did configure nm as stated in:
> 
>     /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian

Yes, though I didn't find it too relevant. At least if it is relevant,
I'm not sure how. My /etc/network/interfaces is:


---
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
---

The NM README file would suggest that eth1 (my wireless interface)
is managed by NM, since it's not explicitly listed here, and this
is in general the case (i.e. that NM manages eth1), though my
problem is the failure of NM to connect to a network after a resume,
and that network-admin _does_ manage to do this (though not reflected
in the NM panel app).

If the NM README file is telling me to do something else, I'm afraid
my reading comprehension skills are too poor to make sense of it :-(

Thanks.

Jesse Sheidlower


Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:06:13 +0100
From: Richard Lyons <richard@the-place.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ssh-agent (was: using a remote IMAP server and smarthost)
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 05:58:11PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
[...]

> I don't think you need port
> forwarding if you have the remote execution of msmtp working, no matter
> where you are. Just add your laptop's id_*.pub identities to
> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the vm. 


Of course.  It is amazing how clear explanation of particular problems
helps to elucidate the generalities too.

Florian, thank you for all your guidance.  It has been an education as
well as solving a long-running problem.

-- 
richard



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:32:56 +0200
From: Rody <rody@xs4all.nl>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: vdrift package
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since the 40r1 release debian has deleted the vdrift package from their 
repo's. does anyone still have these packages for me to download or know how 
i can recreate te deb file from my installed version?



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:37:12 -0400
From: Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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On Thursday 30 August 2007, Michael Pobega wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:19:06AM -0800, Britton Kerin wrote:
> > I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to
> > switch it to pure debian.  Is there a standard way to do this that
> > someone could point me to?
> >
> > (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which
> >  package a program is in looks pretty cute and helpful :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Britton

>

> Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, upgrading from Ubuntu to
> Debian (And vice-versa) is nearly impossible and unsupported by the
> Debian community (If you did try it, we probably wouldn't be able to
> help you). Too many things are done differently between the two
> operating systems, for example, while Debian uses root to do many
> tasks by default Ubuntu has no true root user and instead uses sudo.


While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, 
there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as a 
root account on any Debian release.  The only difference is it doesn't 
have a password on setup.  I used:

sudo passwd
(or maybe it was sudo passwd root)

and created a password for root and can use my root account on my Ubuntu 
workstation just like I do the root account on any of my Debian 
servers.

Hal



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:42:55 -0400
From: Sarunas Burdulis <sarunas@math.dartmouth.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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Britton Kerin wrote:

> I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch
> it to pure debian.  Is there a standard way to do this that someone 
> could point me to?

There is no standard way. Fresh reinstall is perhaps the closest to "standard".

If you have time to spare, change your sources.list to point to Debian repositories, run apt-get and see what mess you end up in... I did a
reverse---Debian to Ubuntu---upgrade once and it took much longer to clean up things, than a fresh install and config.

If your new computer works fine with Ubuntu, I would save the output of lspci, lsmod and a .tgz of /etc, just in case you'll need a hint while
trying to make some component to work in Debian.

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:41:23 -0400
From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: vdrift package
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:32:56 +0200
Rody <rody@xs4all.nl> wrote:


> since the 40r1 release debian has deleted the vdrift package from their 
> repo's. does anyone still have these packages for me to download or know how 
> i can recreate te deb file from my installed version?
> 
> 
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Can we help you?X

Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:55:31 -0400
From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to bind keys to commands, without requiring login?
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:27:56 +0530
"Masatran, R. Deepak" <masatran@research.iiit.ac.in> wrote:


> I want to bind some keys to commands. I can do this using my window manager,
> but I want it to work even if (1) Nobody is logged in OR if (2) the screen
> is locked with a screen-saver.
> 
> I am using Debian 4.0, with GDM, and Sawfish.


Have you tried the standard 'xbindkeys'?


> Masatran, R. Deepak <http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/>


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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:57:46 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote:
[snip]

>  
> While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, 
> there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as a 
> root account on any Debian release.  The only difference is it doesn't 
> have a password on setup.


You've GOT to be kidding...  Right?  Please?


>                           I used:
> sudo passwd
> (or maybe it was sudo passwd root)
> 
> and created a password for root and can use my root account on my Ubuntu 
> workstation just like I do the root account on any of my Debian 
> servers.




- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:59:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: ann kok <annkok2001@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: question about DROP in NIC interface
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Hi all

When I type netstat -i

there is number in RX-DRP but RX-ERR is 0

ls it normal?

how is problem to make this RX-DRP


router> netstat -i
Kernel Interface table
RX-ERR 	RX-DRP=20
0 	1365203  =20
0 	2556544    =20
0 	17805602  =20

Thank you for your help


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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:03:17 -0400
From: Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> [snip]

>

> > While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics,
> > there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as
> > a root account on any Debian release.  The only difference is it
> > doesn't have a password on setup.

>

> You've GOT to be kidding...  Right?  Please?


On Debian you enter the root pw at setup.  You don't on Ubuntu, but when 
I setup a new Ubuntu system, all I do is create a root password w/ sudo 
and from then on it works like any other system with a root account.

Is that so surprising, or did I miss something?

Hal



Date:  Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:09:42 +0200
From: wimpunk <kwdpggwxwumz@spammotel.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Bluetooth mouse not connecting using Lenny
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Hi List,

Since my upgrade to Lenny, my mouse doesn't connect automatically
anymore.  To get my mouse working, I have to remove my USB bluetooth
dongle and put it back.  I've compared the modules before and after but
everything is the same.  Any one a suggestion what's going wrong?

Kind regards,

wimpunk.



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:14:27 -0400
From: Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: hal@thresholddigital.com
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:03:17 -0400
Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com> wrote:


> On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > > While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics,
> > > there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as
> > > a root account on any Debian release.  The only difference is it
> > > doesn't have a password on setup.
> >
> > You've GOT to be kidding...  Right?  Please?
> 
> On Debian you enter the root pw at setup.  You don't on Ubuntu, but when 
> I setup a new Ubuntu system, all I do is create a root password w/ sudo 
> and from then on it works like any other system with a root account.
> 
> Is that so surprising, or did I miss something?


I think that Ron understands that the root account on Ubuntu is
accessible by anyone without entering a password; I seem to recall
(from posts to this list) that actually no one can access the Ubuntu
root account until a password has been set for it.


> Hal


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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:15:38 -0400
From: Sarunas Burdulis <sarunas@math.dartmouth.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> [snip]
> 

>> While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, 
>> there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as a 
>> root account on any Debian release.  The only difference is it doesn't 
>> have a password on setup.

> 
> You've GOT to be kidding...  Right?  Please?

"doesn't have a password" does not mean "empty password" in this case. /etc/shadow has "!" for root's password field, which, together with pam
config, prevents logging into account.

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:31:04 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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On 08/30/07 15:15, Sarunas Burdulis wrote:

> Ron Johnson wrote:

>> On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip]

> 

>>> While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just
>>> semantics, there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be
>>> used the same as a root account on any Debian release.  The
>>> only difference is it doesn't have a password on setup.
>>
>> You've GOT to be kidding...  Right?  Please?
>

> "doesn't have a password" does not mean "empty password" in this
> case. /etc/shadow has "!" for root's password field, which,
> together with pam config, prevents logging into account.


Ah, ok.  That makes me feel *much* better.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Can't find what you're looking for?X

Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:51:32 +0200
From: Rody <rody@xs4all.nl>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: vdrift package
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Op donderdag 30 augustus 2007 21:41, schreef Celejar:

> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:32:56 +0200

>

> Rody <rody@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > since the 40r1 release debian has deleted the vdrift package from their
> > repo's. does anyone still have these packages for me to download or know
> > how i can recreate te deb file from my installed version?
> >
> >
> > --
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
> > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact
> > listmaster@lists.debian.org

>

> http://snapshot.debian.net/


Thanks, i did not know this "fallback" site before.

I also found the deb files from my current installation 
in /var/cache/apt/archives.

Rody

>

> Celejar
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:52:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: Hendrik Boom <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  how find postscript for a Unicode character.
Message-ID: <fb7amj$vds$1@sea.gmane.org>
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Now I've written a program that takes minimally marked-up text and
formats it as a Postscript file.  I take the generated
Postscript file and send igtto a Postscript orinter using xpp.

That works fine for most of the text I have to print

The minimal markup notation is pure nonstandard hackery.  In fact
the program has several front ends that accept a few markup notations,
including one that's easy to use on ,u alphasmart keyboard. (Also, severa=
l
back ends will generate html or plain ASCII text instead of postscript) T=
he
program usually accepts text in UTF-8 form.

Every now and then I have text containing unusual (non-ASCII)
characters.  It converts them politely from UTF-8 to Unicode, and then
does not know how to produce appropriate Postscript for my
printer. This is probably a matter of identifying an appropriate font tha=
t
contains that character, and then sending that to my printer in some way.

I can probably find ways to sent the glyph to the printer, provided I can
find a suitable font entry somewhere.  Now Linux (I'm using Debian etch)
has extensive font mechanisms.  How can I use these to convert Unicode to
Postscript-compatible glyph?



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:40:30 -0300
From: Cassiano Bertol Leal <cassianoleal@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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Celejar wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:03:17 -0400
> Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com> wrote:
> 

>> On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics,
>>>> there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as
>>>> a root account on any Debian release.  The only difference is it
>>>> doesn't have a password on setup.
>>> You've GOT to be kidding...  Right?  Please?
>> On Debian you enter the root pw at setup.  You don't on Ubuntu, but when 
>> I setup a new Ubuntu system, all I do is create a root password w/ sudo 
>> and from then on it works like any other system with a root account.
>>
>> Is that so surprising, or did I miss something?

> 
> I think that Ron understands that the root account on Ubuntu is
> accessible by anyone without entering a password; I seem to recall
> (from posts to this list) that actually no one can access the Ubuntu
> root account until a password has been set for it.


Not being able to access an account without a password is default even
for Debian, AFAIK. I have done this once, deleting the password hash
from an account in /etc/shadow, and then trying to login with that user.
Couldn't find a way, and actually used it as some form of security. This
is probably what happens in Ubuntu, too.

Considering that the user has full sudo access and that the root account
actually exists, it should be no surprise that a 'sudo passwd root'
would give the user login access to the root account.

>> Hal

> 
> Celejar


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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:09:15 -0400
From: Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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On Thursday 30 August 2007, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote:

> Celejar wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:03:17 -0400
> >
> > Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com> wrote:
> >> On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>> On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> >>> [snip]
> >>>
> >>>> While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just
> >>>> semantics, there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be
> >>>> used the same as a root account on any Debian release.  The only
> >>>> difference is it doesn't have a password on setup.
> >>>
> >>> You've GOT to be kidding...  Right?  Please?
> >>
> >> On Debian you enter the root pw at setup.  You don't on Ubuntu,
> >> but when I setup a new Ubuntu system, all I do is create a root
> >> password w/ sudo and from then on it works like any other system
> >> with a root account.
> >>
> >> Is that so surprising, or did I miss something?
> >
> > I think that Ron understands that the root account on Ubuntu is
> > accessible by anyone without entering a password; I seem to recall
> > (from posts to this list) that actually no one can access the
> > Ubuntu root account until a password has been set for it.

>

> Not being able to access an account without a password is default
> even for Debian, AFAIK. I have done this once, deleting the password
> hash from an account in /etc/shadow, and then trying to login with
> that user. Couldn't find a way, and actually used it as some form of
> security. This is probably what happens in Ubuntu, too.

>

> Considering that the user has full sudo access and that the root
> account actually exists, it should be no surprise that a 'sudo passwd
> root' would give the user login access to the root account.


Yes.  It was my mistake in how I was wording things.  I was in a hurry 
and thinking about another email, so I wasn't specific about the issue 
of not being able to log in.  I was just thinking about what I did that 
worked.

Hal



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:17:11 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Garmin GPS on USB port
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:36:18AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:

> Bernard(bernard.fay@gmail.com) is reported to have said:
> > On 8/29/07, Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 09:16:14PM -0400, Bernard wrote:
> > > >
> > > > module.  I did it with succes but the documentation found said to use
> > > > /dev/ttyUSB? which device I don't have.  Maybe I still have a few things
> > > to
> > > > understand about the USB devices and udev!
> > > >
> > > > I would like to know if someone have been able to communicate with a
> > > Garmin
> > > > GPS via a USB port and how you did it.  Or maybe someone with a good
> > > > understanding of USB and udev could help me understand what is going on
> > > and
> > > > what I should do to make it work.

> Here is what syslog shows when I plug in my usb GPS puck.
> kernel: usb 1-5.4: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
> kernel: usb 1-5.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> kernel: pl2303 1-5.4:1.0: pl2303 converter detected
> kernel: usb 1-5.4: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0
> 


Well, according to the kernel, you have a ttyUSB0.  In your initial
posting, you said you didn't have a ttyUSB.  Do you have a ttyUSB0
anywhere under /dev?  Try using find.

Doug.



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:18:34 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: All New rc2.d Scripts get Ignored. Debian from KNOPPIX
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:53:42AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
 

> 	When I usually install Linux, I use a serial console.
> That is not an option as there are no native serial ports on
> this system. I need every screen message to go to a file
> somewhere and that may tell me something new.
> 


If you have a paralell port you could print to a printer with a paralell
port and find a way to get that read.  Or, if the box has USB, you could
hook up a usb/serial adapter and use that.  See the
remote-serial-console-HOWTO for details.

Doug.



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:13:30 -0400
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: konsole + system bell
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 09:52:35AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >10' extension cords.  The box in on a shelf half-way up the wall
> >directly below my mini-desk in the living room.  Makes for a totally
> >silent operation even though the hostname on the box is 'rocky' since
> >its fan sounds like a gravel truck.  Its a P-II given away because if
> >was full (as in packed) of cat hair; messed up the CPU fan bearings
> >among other things.
> 
> Too bad I already ordered from Newegg. Found 16ft vga + USB + kbd 
> extenders. But I did not come across audio cable extenders for that size.


Well, I don't do audio for this box.  But audio is just 1/8" sterio
headphone extension; get uncoiled.  For mic, you'd want mic extension
cord.  Radio Shack (US) or "The Source" (CDN) would have it.  Or you
could just run USB and put a USB sound card at the monitor.

I don't know what the limit is but 16' might be pushing it.  I ran 20'
once but that was with a 9" bw monitor.

Doug.

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