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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 2285

Today's Topics: 

  Re: Garmin GPS on USB port            [ Bernard  ]
  Re: intel dp35dp                      [ Jeff D  ]
  Re: Asking about installation Debian  [ Jeff D  ]
  Re: Fwd: Asking about installation D  [ "Douglas A. Tutty"  ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ cls@truffula.sj.ca.us ]
  Re: X config issues                   [ Kent West  ]
  Re: Asking about installation Debian  [ Kent West  ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ Miles Bader  ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ Miles Bader  ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ Charlie  ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ Miles Bader  ]
  Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian        [ Hal Vaughan 

Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:50:38 -0400


From: Bernard <bernard.fay@gmail.com>


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Garmin GPS on USB port


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On 8/30/07, Wayne Topa <linuxone@intergate.com> wrote:

>
> Bernard(bernard.fay@gmail.com) is reported to have said:
> > Thanks all for your help.
> >
> > First, my digital camera works like a charm.
> >
> > When I plug my GPS I have only those two lines in /var/log/syslog:
> > Aug 30 17:23:15 zherc kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using
> > uhci_hcd and address 4
> > Aug 30 17:23:15 zherc kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1
> choice
> >
> > No /dev/ttyUSB0
> >
> > Also, the module ehci_hcd is already loaded so no need to modprobe it.
> >
> > The output of lsusb (after the GPS has been plugged) is the following:
> > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> > Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c506 Logitech, Inc. MX-700 Cordless Mouse
> > Receiver
> > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> > Bus 001 Device 004: ID 4348:5523
> > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> >
> > By the way, this is a Garmin GPS III+ if it could help.
> >
> > I use a usb-to-serial adapter.  Does it need a driver or something?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Bernard
> > > Here is what syslog shows when I plug in my usb GPS puck.
> > > Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: usb 1-5.4: new full speed USB device
> using
> > > ehci_hcd and address 4
> > > Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: usb 1-5.4: configuration #1 chosen from
> 1
> > > choice
> > > Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: pl2303 1-5.4:1.0: pl2303 converter
> detected
> > > Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: usb 1-5.4: pl2303 converter now attached
> to
> > > ttyUSB0
>
> Yes!  Thats what the "usb 1-5.4: pl2303 converter now attached to
> ttyUSB0" is.  You said you had the converter so I 'thought' (my bad),
> yu knew that.
>
> modprobe pl2303  should do it for you.
>
> Wayne
>
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Not yet.... but I think we are closer to a solution!


Do you need help?X

modprobe pl2303 says :


Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial
Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial
support registered for generic


Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver
usbserial_generic


Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial
Driver core


Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial
support registered for pl2303


Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver pl2303
Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/pl2303.c: Prolific PL2303
USB to serial adaptor driver




modprobe garmin_gps says:


Aug 30 20:34:33 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial
support registered for Garmin GPS usb/tty
Aug 30 20:34:33 zherc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver garmin_gps
Aug 30 20:34:33 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/garmin_gps.c: garmin gps
driver v0.23



No ttyUSB? yet!



What else could be missing?  I remember to have read on the net that some
usb to serial adapter might be at problem.  Maybe it's the problem.  I'll
try to borrow the cable of a friend.



Thanks for the help everybody,


Bernard



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On 8/30/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Wayne Topa</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:linuxone@intergate.com">linuxone@intergate.com</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Bernard(<a href="mailto:bernard.fay@gmail.com">bernard.fay@gmail.com</a>) is reported to have said:<br>&gt; Thanks all for your help.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; First, my digital camera works like a charm.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; When I plug my GPS I have only those two lines in /var/log/syslog:


> Aug 30 17:23:15 zherc kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using
> uhci_hcd and address 4
> Aug 30 17:23:15 zherc kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
>
> No /dev/ttyUSB0

Do you need more help?X


>
> Also, the module ehci_hcd is already loaded so no need to modprobe it.
>
> The output of lsusb (after the GPS has been plugged) is the following:
> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000

> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c506 Logitech, Inc. MX-700 Cordless Mouse
> Receiver
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 4348:5523
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000



&gt;<br>&gt; By the way, this is a Garmin GPS III+ if it could help.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I use a usb-to-serial adapter.&nbsp;&nbsp;Does it need a driver or something?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Thanks again,<br>&gt; Bernard<br>&gt; &gt; Here is what syslog shows when I plug in my usb GPS puck.
<br>&gt; &gt; Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: usb 1-5.4: new full speed USB device using<br>&gt; &gt; ehci_hcd and address 4<br>&gt; &gt; Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: usb 1-5.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1<br>&gt; &gt; choice
<br>&gt; &gt; Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: pl2303 1-5.4:1.0: pl2303 converter detected<br>&gt; &gt; Aug 30 10:27:15 buddy kernel: usb 1-5.4: pl2303 converter now attached to<br>&gt; &gt; ttyUSB0<br><br>Yes!&nbsp;&nbsp;Thats what the &quot;usb 
1-5.4: pl2303 converter now attached to<br>ttyUSB0&quot; is.&nbsp;&nbsp;You said you had the converter so I &#39;thought&#39; (my bad),<br>yu knew that.<br><br>modprobe pl2303&nbsp;&nbsp;should do it for you.<br><br>Wayne<br><br>--<br>Don&#39;t hit the keys so hard, it hurts.


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<a href="mailto:listmaster@lists.debian.org">listmaster@lists.debian.org</a><br><br></blockquote></div><br>Not yet.... but I think we are closer to a solution!<br>
<br>


modprobe pl2303 says :<br>

Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial

Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for generic

Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic

Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core

Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for pl2303

Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver pl2303

Aug 30 20:34:17 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/pl2303.c: Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor driver



<br>


<br>


modprobe garmin_gps says:<br>

Aug 30 20:34:33 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Garmin GPS usb/tty

Aug 30 20:34:33 zherc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver garmin_gps

Aug 30 20:34:33 zherc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/garmin_gps.c: garmin gps driver v0.23



<br>No ttyUSB? yet!<br><br>


What else could be missing?&nbsp; I remember to have read on the net that
some usb to serial adapter might be at problem.&nbsp; Maybe it&#39;s the problem.&nbsp; I&#39;ll try to borrow the
cable of a friend.<br>


<br>


Thanks for the help everybody,<br>


Bernard<br>



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Can we help you?X

Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:18:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com>


To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: intel dp35dp


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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Enrique Morfin wrote:


> Hi!
>
> I tried to install debian testing on an intel dp35dp
> motherboard and intel core 2 duo procesor.
>
> The installer (i386 and amd64) keeps me telling there
> is no cdrom.
>
> I installed on another box, then put that HD in the
> dp35dp box and it tells me "There is no OS Disc".
>
> Any ideas?
>
> PS: When i installed in other box, i upgraded the
> kernel to 2.6.21.
>

Is this a sata box?  If so, you might want to check your bios and set disk 
access to compatability mode ..



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8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Techno.



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:20:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff D <fixedored@gmail.com>


To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Asking about installation Debian Linux
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Can't find what you're looking for?X

  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.



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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, [WINDOWS-1252] ~@=AE!=A9 Jansen wrote:


> Hi dear Mr/Mrs,
>
>
> Several days ago, I succeded download the DVD version of DVD intel x86 fo=

r

> Debian Linux and when I wanted to install Linux during the process of
> installation I got the problems.
> The DVD RW isn't able to be detected. So, from the first step I could not
> pass this step that my DVDRW is not detected (I don't know whether it isn=

't

> mounted or not, because I am blank of Linux) I also don't know whether th=

e

> DVD RW is non-IDE or non-SCSI CDRom drive or not.
> I use Laptop LG E-50 Intel Core Duo T7100 (1.8 GHz), 2048 MB, 160 GB.
>
> I have no idea how to load module and the device to use it. Module manual=

 of

> CDROM that I read (such as aztcd,cdrom, cdu31a, cm206, gscd, gscd, isp16,
> mcdx, optcd, sbpcd, jscd, sonycd535) are not suitable to mount and detect=

 my

> DVDRW for continuing installation the Linux.
> even in /dev/ I don't find any hda, hdb, hdc or cdrom... I found ptyp0 -
> ptypf, ram0 - ram15, psaux, ppp, null, vcs1-vcsa5, etc
>
> I have read the manual, but I found nothing to solve this problem.
> Please help me for solving this matter.
>
> Sincerely yours,
> Eric Jansen
>

You might want to check your bios and change your disk access to=20
compatability mode.



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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:11:23 -0400


From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <dtutty@porchlight.ca>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


Subject: Re: Fwd: Asking about installation Debian Linux

Message-ID: <20070831021123.GA14146@titan.hooton>

Confused? Frustrated?X

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Don't know where to look next?X

On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 02:42:19AM +0200, ??!? Jansen wrote:

> Hi dear Mr/Mrs,
> 
> Several things I forgot to tell that in newest laptop doesn't have floopy
> disk drive anymore and I have no idea about "image" that said during the
> installation. I just downloaded the DVD files for installation from
> debian.org
> 
> Would you mind to tell me with more details what are the commands to detect
> my DVD-RW such as modprobe, dmesg and other commands that are related to
> installation for detecting hardware (VGA cards, sound cards, ethernet cards,
> etc)
> 
> first of all I say thank you very much. I appreciate your helps.
> 

Hi Eric,



I'm on dialup; it would take me a year to download a DVD so I don't know
what's on it.  However, the CD has the installation manual so I'm
assuming that the DVD does as well.  In case it didn't, go to

	
http://www.debian.org/ and click on Getting Debian, which takes
	you to:
	
http://www.debian.org/distrib/

Read that page then click on installation manual and download the
correct one.  Then read the whole thing.



You'll find that there are several ways to do an install:

	boot the CD/DVD
	boot a floppy
	boot a USB stick
	boot from a spare partition on a spare hard drive
	boot from a local network


The instructions of all of these options are in the manual.



Since you have the DVD, you can use that for packages but you need to
set up a means of booting so that you can get them.



Doug.


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:13:19 +1000


From: Keith Bates <keith@new-life.org.au>
To: Debian List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Magicpoint weirdness

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Hi



While running magicpoint flawlessly for a couple of years, it's
suddenly gone weird on me.



There are a couple of images that prompt this  error 



X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  73 (X_GetImage)
  Serial number of failed request:  2390
  Current serial number in output stream:  2390



Can anyone suggest what this means?



THanks


-- 
God bless you,


Keith Bates
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Narrabri NSW 2390

Phone: 02 67924890
Fax: 02 67925418

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JESUS IS THE ANSWER!

Ask him into your life today...
He really does make a difference.


Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:07:33 -0700
From: cls@truffula.sj.ca.us
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
Message-ID: <slrnfdetv5.26j.spambait@truffula.sj.ca.us>

[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
In article <8XYlu-2Yr-13@gated-at.bofh.it>, Ron Johnson wrote:

>
> On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> [snip]
>>  
>> While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, 
>> there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as a 
>> root account on any Debian release.  The only difference is it doesn't 
>> have a password on setup.
>
> You've GOT to be kidding...  Right?  Please?


It's basically the live CD copied to hard drive until you
lock it down.  You get a root shell by going

  sudo su -

Same as Knoppix.  Seems like the opposite of how sudo is
supposed to be used.  I think the idea is if you had enough
(physical) access to boot the live CD, you can be root anyway.
My objection is a whole lot of people are gonna grow up
thinking sudo is supposed to be like that.



>
>>                           I used:
>> sudo passwd
>> (or maybe it was sudo passwd root)


That's what you're supposed to do before you expose it
to the net.


Cameron



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:41:54 -0500
From: Kent West <westk@acu.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: X config issues
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Chris wrote:

> On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 10:51 -0500, Kent West wrote:
>   
>> With one of the newer updates to X, Xinerama became problematic with an 
>> Intel video chipset, which broke my dual-monitor setup (the second video 
>> card is nVidia-based). After months of living without my dual-monitor 
>> setup to which I had become accustomed, I finally snagged another 
>> nVidia-based PCI cards that I threw in my box. After running "X 
>> -configure", I got a new almost working xorg.conf file; I had to remove 
>> any references to the Intel chipset and it's matching non-existent 
>> monitor, and maybe a couple of other small tweaks, to end up with the 
>> following:
>>
>>     
> <snip>
>   
>> Any clues would be appreciated.
>>     
>
> A guess: did you edit /etc/defaults/nvidia-kernel now that you have 2
> nvidia cards?
>
>   

I have no such file. I suspect that relates to the non-Free nVidia 
drivers; I'm using the Free "nv" driver.

-- 
Kent



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:55:26 -0500
From: Kent West <westk@acu.edu>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Asking about installation Debian Linux
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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 02:17:10AM +0200, ??!? Jansen wrote:
>   
>> Several days ago, I succeded download the DVD version of DVD intel x86 for
>> Debian Linux and when I wanted to install Linux during the process of
>> installation I got the problems.
>> The DVD RW isn't able to be detected. So, from the first step I could not
>> pass this step that my DVDRW is not detected (I don't know whether it isn't
>> mounted or not, because I am blank of Linux) I also don't know whether the
>> DVD RW is non-IDE or non-SCSI CDRom drive or not.
>> I use Laptop LG E-50 Intel Core Duo T7100 (1.8 GHz), 2048 MB, 160 GB.
>>
>> I have no idea how to load module and the device to use it. Module manual of
>> CDROM that I read (such as aztcd,cdrom, cdu31a, cm206, gscd, gscd, isp16,
>> mcdx, optcd, sbpcd, jscd, sonycd535) are not suitable to mount and detect my
>> DVDRW for continuing installation the Linux.
>> even in /dev/ I don't find any hda, hdb, hdc or cdrom... I found ptyp0 -
>> ptypf, ram0 - ram15, psaux, ppp, null, vcs1-vcsa5, etc
>>
>> I have read the manual, but I found nothing to solve this problem.
>> Please help me for solving this matter.
>>     
>
> Have you considered the USB-stick hd-media install method from the
> installation manual?  Basically, you download a small file that is a
> compressed image of a filesystem that you put on a USB stick, then you
> copy the netinst.iso file to the stick and boot away.  
>
> Doug.
>   



Even easier, if you've got Windows on the machine, it to visit 
http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com. No download of a DVD necessary (but 
you do need a decent Internet connection).

I'm unclear where you're having the problem. I take it that the machine 
is booting from the DVD properly up to a point, which indicates that the 
DVD is already recognized, so I'm really confused. Perhaps some more 
detail would help.

-- 
Kent



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:47:51 +0900
From: Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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-- 
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:55:52 +0900
From: Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com> writes:

> Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, upgrading from Ubuntu to
> Debian (And vice-versa) is nearly impossible and unsupported by the
> Debian community (If you did try it, we probably wouldn't be able to
> help you). Too many things are done differently between the two
> operating systems, for example, while Debian uses root to do many tasks
> by default Ubuntu has no true root user and instead uses sudo.


I dunno, I've done debian<->ubuntu (both directions) with few problems
(this was a year or two ago).

As I recall the only issues were due to some python packaging
differences (and as I understand it, the python packging on the two
system has converged since then).... [Gee, come to think of it about 95%
of the packaging problems I see these days (even with a pure debian
system) seem to be related to python!]

The impression I was left with from that experience was that the two
systems are _very_ close to each other in most respects, and that a lot
of the difference is essentially window dressing and random minor bug
fixes here and there.

Anyway, it's certainly good to know what you're doing, but it seems
silly to say it's "nearly impossible."

-Miles

-- 
97% of everything is grunge



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:17:14 +1000
From: Charlie <ariestao@clearmail.com.au>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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On Friday 31 August 2007 12:47, Miles Bader shared this with us all:

>--}
>--} --
>--} Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose   --Janis Joplin


I thought Kris Kristofferson wrote that song?

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Debian - Just the best way to do magic.



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:33:24 -0600
From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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Britton Kerin wrote:

> I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch
> it to pure debian.  Is there a standard way to do this that someone 
> could point me to?


While this is not a "standard" method I think 'debtakeover' is quite a
clever method and should work.  Here is an announcement of it quite
some time ago.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/01/msg00313.html

That was back in 2004 and it would almost certainly need updating
today for Etch.  But I did use this back then and it was impressively
able to do an in place conversion from one distro to another for me
with only minor issues remaining after the conversion.  It was quite
useful to get to that point.


> (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which 
>  package a program is in looks pretty cute and helpful :)


Hmm...  To what are you referring?  One of these?

  dpkg -S /bin/cat

  dlocate /bin/cat

??

Bob



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:41:35 +0900
From: Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com>
To: Charlie <ariestao@clearmail.com.au>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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Charlie <ariestao@clearmail.com.au> writes:

>>--} Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose   --Janis Joplin
>
> I thought Kris Kristofferson wrote that song?


Yes, he did.  Janis sang it.

-Miles

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I'm a cancer screening away from going agnostic and a biopsy away
from full-fledged Christian."  [Adam Carolla]


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:13:19 -0400
From: Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
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On Thursday 30 August 2007, Charlie wrote:

> On Friday 31 August 2007 12:47, Miles Bader shared this with us all:
> >--}
> >--} --
> >--} Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose   --Janis
> > Joplin
>
> I thought Kris Kristofferson wrote that song?


And performed it as well.  I have a recording of him singing it and it's 
quieter but has a much stronger impact than Janis' version.

But what did this have to do with other posts?  Since nothing was 
quoted, I lost context....

Hal



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:25:42 -0500
From: bob@proulx.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: I LOVE DEBIAN!
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I love Debian so much that when I see the Debian boot screen my rocket takes off!!



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:30:59 -0700
From: Glen Pfeiffer <glen@thepfeiffers.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Setting [u|f]mask on a bind mount
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I tried mounting a directory like so:

  mount --bind -o umask=0117 /home/files /home/glen/files

What I am shooting for, is that all files created in 
/home/glen/files will have the permissions 660. But the above 
command seems to have no effect on permissions of created files.

I have also tried this with no luck:

  mount --bind -o fmask=0117 /home/files /home/glen/files

Then I read the man page:

  Note that the filesystem mount options will remain the same  as  
  those on  the original mount point, and cannot be changed by 
  passing the -o option along with --bind/--rbind.

I take that to mean that I cannot change the umask when mounting 
with --bind.

Any ideas on how to achieve my goal?

Thanks in advance!

-- 
Glen 



Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:49:08 -0700
From: "syn4coXis10s@gmail.com" <syn4coXis10s@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Migrate debian services to a new debian system
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On Aug 30, 6:10 pm, b...@proulx.com (Bob Proulx) wrote:

> Jochen Schulz wrote:
> > syn4coXis...@gmail.com:
> > > Okay, so I want to make the asrock my server...it is quieter and uses
> > > less power.  I don't have a lot of time for trouble shooting etc. so I
> > > want to plan this out so it mostly works on the first shot.  My
> > > strategy is to setup each services one at a time...then transfer to
> > > the new system and disable it on the old.
>
> > If I were you, I'd just install a stock Debian kernel on the server (if
> > it doesn't already have one) and swap the hard drives between the two
> > machines. That might already do it.
>
> Sounds like a good plan to me.  If it doesn't boot on the new machine
> with the kernel from old one after installing a stock kernel then boot
> KNOPPIX, chroot into the system, reinstall the kernel.  The problem
> that might arise is if the new system needs a specific kernel driver
> that the old system does not need.  This is configured into the
> /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r) file and may need to be rebuilt.
>



great idea!!! I hadn't even thought about that.  I've been back in the
windows world too long.  I will give this a try and report back...but
it sounds sensible.

then only problem I see is that since these boards are pretty
proprietary, they require some special modules, etc. to get everything
working.  However I guess I can just pre-install the asrock kernel on
the servers hard drive then drop it in and delete the old kernels.
What do you all think about that?



Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:54:26 +0800
From: Jerome BENOIT <jgmbenoit@mailsnare.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: tools highlight PDF
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Hello List,


I want to highlight a PDF proof:
is there any tool (distributed within Debian) which allows to do so?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome
-- 
Jerome BENOIT
jgmbenoit_at_mailsnare_dot_net

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